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Texas is the great prize that the Republicans must hold at all costs. Since 1998 the Democrats have been routed in statewide elections. Nate Silver had a good post about Texas last week. Back in July I wrote about why Texas matters. DKE had a post recently about Texas trending Red instead of Blue. That is what got me thinking about this post.

I want to focus on a little history and the implications of some events that really hurt the statewide party. 1994 saw Ann Richards lose to George W. Bush, but the Dems still managed a few statewide offices. 1998 was when a growing Republican party seized full control of the state government. At that point lots of Democratic money started flowing out of the state or towards 'favorable' Republicans.

But there was a bench in the early Nineties...thin though it may have been. But that bench self destructed. The old families lost influence; the Hobbys and Bentsens. And statewide office holders seeking higher office failed. Below is what happened.

In 1992, a Texas Democrat appointed to the State Railroad commision spoke to the Democratic National Convention. Her name was Lena Guerrero. Appointed by Gov. Ann Richards to the TRRC, she was a rising star and a hope for the Democratic bench. It came out that she falsified her resume about graduating from UT. It killed her political career.

In the 1990 election that brought Richards to the Governor's mansion, Dan Morales was elected Attorney General. He had been a member of the Legislature. He was more a conservative Democrat, Morales had been an effective AG. He lost the 2002 primary to Tony Sanchez and endorsed Rick Perry over Sanchez for the Governor's mansion. In 2003, he made a deal and is serving time in federal prison for falsifing documents related to the tobacco settlement.  

In 1998, Paul Hobby, son of former Lt. Gov Bill Hobby, ran for State Comptroller against Carole Keeton Strayhorn and lost by about 20,000 votes.

Also in 1998, John Sharp, the Texas Comptroller, ran against Rick Perry for Lt. Gov and lost narrowly. In that year George Bush garnered over 2.5 million votes to win reelection. But Perry received 1.85 million to Sharp's 1.79 million. Paul Hobby performed best among Democrats gathering 1.8 million votes. However, that would not be enough to win any statewide office.

In 2002, Ken Bentsen, Jr.,nephew of former Treasury Secretary and U.S. Senator Lloyd Bentsen, gave up his House seat to run for the Senate. He lost the primary to Ron Kirk and that seat his now held by John Cornyn.  In 2002, Sharp would run against David Dewhurst and earn over 2 million votes, but still lose by over 250,000 votes.

Lets not even get into the Tom DeLay issues with the State Legislature. (He played money games in Austin that he played in Washington. Same premise though, only donate to Republicans not to Democrats.)

Now the Democratic Party of Texas is rebuilding from the ground up. It feels like the State party received the NCAA version of the 'death penalty' and now is climbing out of the hole created by those sanctions. The Texas Democratic Party had no one to carry the banner statewide. Lloyd Bentsen was the last figure in the Democratic Party not to be beaten in a statewide election, but health issues after his retirement did not allow him to fight for the Party. There was no one to rally the base and keep the Republicans from dominating the suburban voters. That wide open playing field has hurt the Democrats deeply. There has rarely been a competing message.

Winning creates more winning and the Republicans here take winning here for granted. However, 3.5 million Democratic votes were cast in 2008. Julian Castro had a starring role in this year's DNC. Maybe there can be momentum in making Texas swing. He might be able to pull resources into the state to be able to fight for a cycle. But a series of bad news (and choices) and the rise of W. deeply hurt the Dems in Texas. So we all wait for something to change the dynamic and drive the demographic transformation of Texas into a political change. But as I said, it is like starting all over. However, I know one day Texas will come out of the tunnel and back a Democrat for President.  

Originally posted to The Mad Hatter on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 06:30 AM PDT.

Also republished by TexKos-Messing with Texas with Nothing but Love for Texans and Community Spotlight.

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  •  There are some congressional seats in TX ... (13+ / 0-)

    held by Democrats, aren't there? Wouldn't they be among the party elite, such as it is?

    Good diary.

    "The smartest man in the room is not always right." -Richard Holbrooke

    by Demi Moaned on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 06:37:37 AM PDT

  •  Except for money and name recognition, (14+ / 0-)

    Paul Sadler is potentially a very good Senate candidate.
    It's not too late, given the dynamics of a reeling gop and a surging Dem. party nationwide.

    The production tax credit could be a very strong issue for Dems in Texas, but I don't hear enough about it.

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 06:52:54 AM PDT

    •  I do think the rebuilding will be longterm. (6+ / 0-)

      You can't make this stuff up.

      by David54 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 06:54:02 AM PDT

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    •  And money (9+ / 0-)

      is 90% of the battle now. That idiot Cruz had ZERO name recognition until the Tea Party money flowed his way. Texas is super expensive to compete in and that is the first, second, and third problem.

      The Spice must Flow!

      by Texdude50 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 06:55:18 AM PDT

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      •  Sadler could still pull it off. If he could get (9+ / 0-)

        ads out by the first week or so in Oct., they'd have time to sink in.
        I think he'll get a lot of newspaper endorsements, based on what B. White did.

        You can't make this stuff up.

        by David54 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 07:32:49 AM PDT

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        •  Yes (8+ / 0-)

          Cruz is part of the extreme Right and needs to be painted that way. I hope Sadler wins - that would be amazing.

          The Spice must Flow!

          by Texdude50 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 07:41:29 AM PDT

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          •  So let it be written. So let it be done. (6+ / 0-)

            You can't make this stuff up.

            by David54 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 07:44:24 AM PDT

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          •  Honestly (2+ / 0-)
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            You should be happy Cruz won. If Dewhurst had gotten the seat it would have been his for eternity.

            Keeping out (and embarrassing) the head old boy of the old boys club is not the worst thing that could have happened.

            •  full disclosure (1+ / 0-)
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              growing up, I knew his family. He is s good ole boy, but was nice to me. Still don't vote for him though.

              The Spice must Flow!

              by Texdude50 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 11:48:45 AM PDT

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            •  More afraid of Cruz. He's young. He could (6+ / 0-)

              get himself established, and be there for 20 years.

              Dewhurst is an old man. I doubt he would have run again.

              I would love to see Sadler get some money, and run some ads. Cruz is not likable. But Sadler is invisible and unknown.

              Bill White should have beat Perry. But he ran an awful campaign.

              Texas can be won. But it's going to take money, a good ground game, which the Obama campaign may be able to set up the skeleton of, and a charismatic candidate.
              Castro could be that candidate.

              Today's problems are yesterday's solutions. Don Beck

              by Sherri in TX on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 04:26:00 PM PDT

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              •  I thought Kinky Friedman screwed the Dems (2+ / 0-)
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                over when he ran. iirc, the number of votes he got was the same as the number the Dem lost by. Yet he refused to drop out and shift his supporters.

                He's the reason Gov. Goodhair is still there.

                KF was a spoiler, and is a major annoyance today.

                "I believe more women should carry guns. I believe armed women will make the world a better place. Women need to come to think of themselves not as victims but as dangerous." Anna Pigeon

                by glorificus on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 07:38:49 PM PDT

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              •  I guess that is a possibility. (0+ / 0-)

                ...but I won't be sad to see Dewhurst stuck in Texas instead of mucking around in Washington.

                Bill White was a fairly terrible mayor, in a long string of terrible Houston mayors and he didn't have a lot to run on other than that and not being Rick Perry, which shockingly wasn't enough.

                My voting strategy here is usually to vote in the Republican primaries for the least odious options and then voting against them in the general. There are enough races that just go completely unopposed or are going to defacto go to the republican that it is really the only way to get a voice in all the races.

                It is what it is. Texas politics are generally a great embarrassment to us all.

                •  To be fair, White wasn't that bad (0+ / 0-)

                  He brought the Safe Clear program, he cut Houston's energy consumption by 6%, he worked to provide veteran's with better social services, he was amazing during the aftermath of Katrina and calm during Rita and Ike (Rita evac disaster aside) and during his run for governor he wanted to work to expand CHIPS.

                  •  Yes. Thanks to Safe Clear, my wife's car was (1+ / 0-)
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                    quickly towed out of harm's way from a dangerous freeway intersection within minutes after her car broke down at night. There was no charge for the tow and the driver refused to accept a tip. I'll always be grateful to Bill White for that program.

                    •  Differing opinions. (0+ / 0-)

                      I guess you don't remember when they discovered all the felons happily driving SafeClear tow trucks.

                      Or the huge backlash against it from basically everybody from towing companies to citizens to law makers.

                      Or that it is back to costing $50+ for a tow you are unable to refuse.

                      Or the catastrophe that was Bill's red light cameras.

                      Or the disgustingly botched handling of the Rita evacuation and absolute failure to implement any actual solutions for the future.

                      Anyway, matter of opinion. I was not sad to see him go. Of course Parker isn't exactly better (PLEASE IGNORE YOUR RADIOACTIVE WATER).

                      •  The Rita evac was a disaster (1+ / 0-)
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                        And I'm not arguing that but this

                        absolute failure to implement any actual solutions for the future.
                        is not true. They implemented contraflow lanes, the plan to have National Guard gas trucks along the routes and educated the city and surrounding communities, once again, about who needs to go and who needs to stay. Those are real solutions that had a trial run during Ike.

                        I remember the backlash from the public during the implementation of SafeClear and the tow truck driver drama (isn't there always tow truck driver drama in Houston?) but for the most part I was happy with the SafeClear program as a driver of the Katy Freeway. I understand the outcry over the tow charge but overall it was for the safety of all the commuters and to keep traffic moving. I wish they would take it to other cities (I'm looking at you Austin).

        •  Doubtful that Sadler could pull it out. (1+ / 0-)
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          He has zero name recognition and Cruz is a media darling :shudder:

          And, Bill White actually did something? I didn't see it. We moved from Houston to Austin as he was announcing his run for gov. My husband and I were both eager to see him take his common sense approach that we got to know in Houston to the state level and wipe the floor with Perry. His advertising was non-existent in Central TX and he should have leveled a blistering attack on "not wanting to debate" Perry. My husband is still angry over the handling of that campaign and has dropped out of politics, for the most part, since then.

          TX Dems need to look to our heritage of outspoken fighters and start nurturing those we find in our midst. That's the type of Dem that can take back TX. It's a factor in the Tea Party getting a strong grip on the state. Texans pride themselves on their independence and the people want fighters.

          And, yes, we need to get Sheila Jackson Lee out of office. She is a joke and a detriment to the bigger picture.

          •  I too kept wondering (1+ / 0-)
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            what Bill White was doing. Being in Houston I assumed he would not bother to advertise here and focus everywhere else.

            The Spice must Flow!

            by Texdude50 on Thu Sep 13, 2012 at 06:41:17 AM PDT

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            •  That was a horribly mismanaged campaign (1+ / 0-)
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              I remember conversations with my very liberal in-laws (also from Houston) wondering if he really wanted to run or felt pressured. His actions made it seem like he just wasn't that committed.

              White had a chance to open the crack for Dems a little wider and he blew it.

              But, the important thing here is that we have got to start looking forward. The potential to turn the state into a battleground state is real. Moderate Republicans are wandering around in a confused daze right now and the Democrats could scoop them up easier than we think we can. Not every TX Repub is a Tea Partier. They're just the ones with the loudest shrillest voice right now and moderate R's think they have no other choice who will fight for their community so they keep pressing that straight ticket button.

              Argh. I just want to scream "Fight, damn it, fight!" at the few Dem commercials I've seen... in Austin... the liberal heart of TX and our stronghold. The power of the Republican party has been growing here. That must be stopped. If we lose Travis county then the rebuilding will take a lot longer.

      •  Compete on the Cheap (2+ / 0-)
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        There are other ways to go besides television.

        I wish I knew who to talk to about this... I have no credibility, not politically active in the usual sense, just a climate geek. But I think there's time.

    •  Let's see how the Debate with Cruz works (3+ / 0-)

         The point is that not every woman in TX knows about how far right Cruz is on Women's issues....that may help Sadler.  Everyone need to reach out to every one on this specific issue.
           Dist. 23 is still up for grabs and Canseco is a TPer as well .  When Ciro lost, there was a real hate for him by some D's - which is how Canseco won.  

  •  Yeah, well, treating the state like an ATM (25+ / 0-)

    doesn't help.  The DNC frequently, regularly asks me for money to help some race in Ohio, or Florida, or Calilfornia, but DOES NOT HELP candidates in Texas.  For instance, when money might make a difference fo Paul Sadler.  Who is funding Cruz?  A: Kochs and  their teabaggers.  Are the Dems, or the DSCC doing anything to really help?  A: no.

    Pete bloody "Taliban" Sessions, TX-32, is the Chair of the GOP Congressional Campaign Committee, raising money to fund candidates and GOP incumbents all over the country, YES, IN YOUR district, no doubt.  The DCCC lifts not one finger to oppose Pete, to make him actually run, or spend money, or really be responsive to his own constituents, and he's been in Congress since 1996 - - ever since my kid, now a high school senior, was ONE YEAR OLD!

    We'll do it ourselves, and don't expect anyone to really help from outside.  Though it would be appreciated, I'll not hold my breath.


    Torture is Wrong! We live near W so you don't have to. Send love.

    by tom 47 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 07:44:15 AM PDT

  •  we have a new Chair (10+ / 0-)

    who I think understands what needs to be done. Our former Chair, Boyd Ritchie, has not gotten enough credit for what he accomplished. Sure he didn't succeed in getting any state wide Democrats elected but he has built a really solid organizational foundation out of the ashes he was handed. It's easy to criticize but it's much harder to build from nothing.

    "When you're swerving on life's highway you're running someone off the road." Robert Earl Keen

    by Wordsinthewind on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 08:25:52 AM PDT

  •  The mother of all voter suppression efforts will (17+ / 0-)

    take place when Texas becomes a swing state or (horrors) starts to trend blue. We ain't seen nothing yet.

  •  How strange. (2+ / 0-)
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    I was just looking at the election results for 1944, when FDR won Texas. And I was wondering how did this change begin, and when?  We had a Democratic Texas in the 1960s. I know Connally changed parties, but for him to see the necessity of the action there must have been a shift beforehand.

    By percentage, the nation-wide results for FDR and Dewey were not much different than 2008.  Yet Dewey only won an island of red states while McCain still won much of the sun-belt.

    Thank you to jayden, Dr Erich Bloodaxe RN, Aji and everyone in the Daily Kos community involved in gifting my subscription and gifting others!

    by Nulwee on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 10:40:46 AM PDT

    •  It started in the 1990's (5+ / 0-)

      I remember Ann Richards begging not to nominate Lloyd Bentsen to Treasury. He would have been on the ticket in 1994 and the GOP would not have been able to take him out and maybe not Ann either with enough coattails.

      But it was 1992 that things started shifting and went downhill fast.

      The Spice must Flow!

      by Texdude50 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 10:46:08 AM PDT

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      •  No. (13+ / 0-)

        As tcorse says just below, it started with Civil Rights and the Voting Rights Act.

        LBJ knew damned well that he was probably giving away the traditional hold of the Democrats in the South, by supporting those acts--by muscling them through, over the heads of the Dixiecrats. He abandoned the racists, who were relatively conservative Dems, and the GOP happily snapped them up (and they happily became even more conservative).

        I'm glad, and we all should be, that he did.

        But that's when Texas began trending rightward. Then, yes, there was the stripping of Bentsen when the TX Democrats didn't have a deep bench, and needed to be bolstered. And Ann lost... and then died, as did Molly Ivins. It's been a dark stretch for about 15 years or more.

        Here's to rebuilding anew.

        "Be just and good." John Adams to Thomas Jefferson

        by ogre on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 12:37:38 PM PDT

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        •  Tx Dems (1+ / 0-)
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          survived through the 80's and until 1998. We had statewide offices. I know Civil Rights and LBJ hurt with the Dixiecrats. But we had few candidates to compete against the Republican onslaught after 94.

          It didn't help that some Dems like Bob Bullock and Dan Morales endorsed Republicans.

          But the collapse of the statewide party can be traced to the 98 election when we no longer had any statewide Democrats in office.

          A good candidate with a good message might have helped. Tony Sanchez bankrolled his own campaign, so money alone was not the answer.

          The Spice must Flow!

          by Texdude50 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 12:45:11 PM PDT

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        •  For all the praise of Molly Ivins, she didn't stop (4+ / 0-)
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          GW Bush getting elected or any other R.

          "I believe more women should carry guns. I believe armed women will make the world a better place. Women need to come to think of themselves not as victims but as dangerous." Anna Pigeon

          by glorificus on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 07:44:24 PM PDT

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      •  Begging Ann Richards (2+ / 0-)
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        I remember begging Ann Richards to not pick Bob Kruger for Senator, phone calls, personal visits hell we even had a telegram campaign going. I am a sustaining member of the TDP and have been for nearly 30 years, I can't tell you the last time I saw any type of grassroots organizing coming out of the state party. They keep getting my money,small amount that it is, because of the memory of my mother. Every time I go to the bank to stop the draft I can't actually make myself do it.  
        There are a multitude of reasons why Texas is now a red state, but Ann Richards,bless her heart, and the TDP of the 90's have to be at the top of the list.

        If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

        by texaslucy on Thu Sep 13, 2012 at 05:52:51 AM PDT

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    •  Civil rights happened (16+ / 0-)

      White segregationists and their ideological descendants changed parties after LBJ's "betrayal." It did not happen overnight, but that's the core reason for the shift.

      Conservatives believe evil comes from violating rules. Liberals believe evil comes from violating each other.

      by tcorse on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 10:52:35 AM PDT

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    •  Two words: Karl Rove (7+ / 0-)

      If he hadn't gotten involved in Bush's gubernatorial race, we wouldn't be trending this red.

    •  Civil Rights (9+ / 0-)

      That was the first salvo.

      Then John Tower won LBJ's seat when he became Vice President.  That broke the no GOP in the slave state of Texas.

      Democratic bungling in 1978 lost us the governor's race, electing Bill Clements the first GOP governor since reconstruction.

      Reagan won Texas easily in 1980.

      Guys like Phil Gramm started switching parties in 1981.

      1993 you started to see the final fracturing of southern Democrats in Texas and across the confederacy.

      Lots of migration from midwestern states and California of traditionally Republican voters swelled the ranks of the growing Texas Republican movement.

      Then Bush comes along, Democrats in the House and Senate make him a huge success and then never say boo the rest of his time in office.

      Historical trends, migration and sheer Democratic incompetence has gotten us to this point.

      God it's so painful that something that's so close, is still so far out of reach. Tom Petty/Al Gore

      by Velvet Revolution on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 12:43:59 PM PDT

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      •  Like when we lost the House in 94 (1+ / 0-)
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        the old Party crumbled and had to be rebuilt.

        The Spice must Flow!

        by Texdude50 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 12:46:50 PM PDT

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        •  The old party crumbled, imo, because of sheer (1+ / 0-)
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          cowardice. They allowed themselves to be defined by Gingrich and co. Had they done a better job, nationally, of speaking up for what Democratic values are, I think that rebuilding would have been swifter. With all due respect for Big Dog and his speech at the DNC (which just got the President re-elected maybe and is certainly the single most powerful and effective political speech I have ever heard) those so called "new Democrats" like Clinton and Rahm and others were allowed to GUT many Democratic values creating a party leadership which looked instead very much like Republicans with a conscience. Any Democrat today who thinks, for instance, that the President is a liberal was either not alive or not paying attention before 1994.

          I know what Mitt Romney is hiding: Mitt Romney.

          by commonmass on Thu Sep 13, 2012 at 03:39:41 AM PDT

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          •  The party (2+ / 0-)

            needed to be rebuilt after 94. The Old Guard needed to retire and new ideas and a few spines injected into us.

            Clinton did us no favors in 1996 reelection, he went to save his own hide.

            I grew very tired of the naked cowardice exhibited by some national Dems. They allowed the word "liberal' to be turned into a curse. They never stood up to fight back.

            The Spice must Flow!

            by Texdude50 on Thu Sep 13, 2012 at 04:04:38 AM PDT

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    •  FDR. (4+ / 0-)

      Texas has a history of populism and contempt for plutocrats. Indeed, Texas was a leader in enacting anti-trust laws against the railroads and insurance industries, and was a hotbed of resistance against monopolies and the members of the Gilded Age, during the turn of the century. John D Rockefeller and Jay Gould were actually indicted in Texas for predatory business practices.

      We have the history and the genes.

      "Force is as pitiless to the man who possesses it, or thinks he does, as it is to its victims; the second it crushes, the first it intoxicates.” Simone Weil

      by chuco35 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 01:16:37 PM PDT

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      •  That populism has been put through the curcible (1+ / 0-)
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        of civil rights, conservative massaging as well as national "liberul" leaning Dems to become the Tea Party.

        Progressives will win only when we convince a majority that they, too, are Progressive. And... It’s the Supreme Court, stupid!

        by auapplemac on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 11:32:29 PM PDT

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  •  The Next time the DCCC/DNC/DSCC calls ... (5+ / 0-)

    In the past I have  been asking them  "What about NY's 3rd CD ?"   (It appears that (d) Sen. Schumer and (r) Rep. Peter King have an understanding ... King Keeps His Seat, no matter what.)

    Now I'll be asking them "What about Texas ?"

    But I guess I'll ask the question here too ...

    What IS going on ?  Why ISN'T Democrats National supporting Democrats Texas ?  (I mean 5 lost elections 10 or more years ago just can't be the  reason?  Or can they?)

    We got Mainstream Media whiffs that something like this was going on  in  2010 with Massachusetts' Brown/Coackly election ...  not that there were details  -- either in the MSM or in the left/liberal blogosphere.

  •  You could write a similar (11+ / 0-)

    story about Florida in some ways.  The Party's weakness makes it tough to recruit candidates who might run for statewide office.

    We are weak because we have no money, and we have no money because we are weak.

    I heard the same story about a couple of other states when I was in Charlotte.

    It is not easy to see the answer.

    The bitter truth of deep inequality has been disguised by an era of cheap imported goods and the anyone-can-make-it celebrity myth - Polly Toynbee

    by fladem on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 11:00:51 AM PDT

  •  What Democrats need in Texas (12+ / 0-) for the national party to stop writing them off.

    Taking the legislature would be an obvious goal that could help things along.  There must be a lot of Republicans and independents at this point who want an alternative to the crazy.

    50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

    by TarheelDem on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 11:28:40 AM PDT

  •  Similar story in many states ... (7+ / 0-)

    May I suggest that the turning point was when redistricting started to get ugly with "safe" seats (both R & D) creating political ghettos? Particularly in the red states, it's hard to get traction against the crazies so the crazies take over.

    I've been dumbfounded by the stupid Congress critters who manage to win elections. I think it begins when the opposition party gets demoralized and quits playing.

    Like a good tennis match, it takes two well matched players to take the game to new heights.

    Ohio is taking a step in the right direction with their ballot initiative to create congressional districts that make sense geographically and aren't blatantly partisan.

    "Let us not look back to the past with anger, nor towards the future with fear, but look around with awareness." James Thurber

    by annan on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 11:30:14 AM PDT

  •  Texas defeatism drives me crazy! (12+ / 0-)

    I woke up here in Austin thinking exactly these thoughts - without Texas there is no Republican Party, and Texas is not the South.

    Texas is winnable on its own terms, and since I've been in Texas (5 years now) the Dems have just been rolling over and playing dead.

    Sadler and Obama vs Cruz and Romney presents an opportunity to at least start Texas swinging, but only if there is a play to win. And while Texas is expensive because it is a vast sprawl of big and small media markets, we have internet everywhere and Kinko's (er, FedEx copy shops) everywhere!

    There is enough time to not just motivate the urban and nonwhite voters but to start to make the case to the large disengaged fraction of the rural and suburban white population, both local and recently arrived.

    Romney holds no appeal for the average Texan - he represents exactly what the white rural voter is angry about. His disloyalty this week, his snubbing of the military at the Rep convention, his obvious hypocrisy on health care, and his regressive tax policies, none of that will play in Petrolia.

    The way to talk to Texans is with a human voice. Especially up against robo-politics. Especially up against not very smart not very kind  not very honest robo-politics.

    If we get something rolling the national party will take interest.

    The defeatism around here is maddening.

  •  Please tell me what Texas Democrats stand for (8+ / 0-)

    I'll hang up and listen.

    Seriously, though, one of the biggest problems has and continues to be the lack of fight and issue coordination among the remaining elected officials in Austin, particularly in the Senate.

    We need more Wendy Davis' and fewer Texas Joe Liebermans.

    God it's so painful that something that's so close, is still so far out of reach. Tom Petty/Al Gore

    by Velvet Revolution on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 11:52:06 AM PDT

    •  here is a link to the (2+ / 0-)
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      Texas Democratic Party platform.

      And here is a comparison between both parties.

      The Spice must Flow!

      by Texdude50 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 11:57:08 AM PDT

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      •  And yes (3+ / 0-)
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        that would be great if Democratic elected officials and candidates were campaigning and/or governing based on such a document.

        They're not.

        God it's so painful that something that's so close, is still so far out of reach. Tom Petty/Al Gore

        by Velvet Revolution on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 01:23:07 PM PDT

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        •  each Rep tries to represent their (1+ / 0-)
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          district as best as possible. I used to be in Jackson-Lee's district and her style and issues differ from Gene Green's. Back in the day I used to know Diana Davilla, Scott Hochberg, Debra Danburg, and Garnett Coleman. Each served their Houston constituents differently. Danburg was a great friend to the LGTB community.

          I don't one size fits all reps, but people who can think and seek the best solutions for all.

          The Spice must Flow!

          by Texdude50 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 02:19:17 PM PDT

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    •  Man.. (6+ / 0-)

      Texas Dems fight tooth and nail in the halls of the TX Legislature for the same things Dems everywhere fight for: access to a good public education, economic opportunity, a secure safety net for the underpriviledged, a clean environment, a sound energy policy, a woman's right to choice..

      Yes, we have our J.L.'s, but doesn't every political association?

      I would even assert that Texas D's are tougher than your average Democrat b/c the odds they fight against are so great..

      Did you know that we fought and defeated voter photo id in the Legislature for three consecutive sessions ('05, '07, '09) before the Repubs forced through their disenfranchisement bill in '11?

      Little known fact: the TX D's were only 2 seats away from a majority in the House two years ago - right before our ranks were decimated in the 2010 election.  

      We just need to get our numbers back up, and you'll see a difference..

      •  Remember they had to flee (2+ / 0-)
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        teh state to fight Tom DeLay's redistricting in the 2000's. IIRC, Mario Gallagos was very sick, but fled anyway.

        The Spice must Flow!

        by Texdude50 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 12:36:28 PM PDT

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      •  Yeah, very aware (2+ / 0-)
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        I actually think I know who you are, Damien of a certain Dallas Rep.'s office.  You know me, too. Let's just say that I am well aquainted with Voter ID in Texas.

        2006 and 2008 in Texas (and across the country) were good for Democrats because George Bush was in the White House (and the GOP Congress until 2006). The small sliver in the middle either all voted Democrat or didn't vote.

        Once again, Democrats took complete distaste of the Republicans as a sign that voters agreed with us.  Nope.

        We (in Texas) had not and have not done the grunt work of local organizing in high growth Hispanic areas to solidify the gains of 2006/2008, and we have steadfastly failed to have a united agenda beyond opposing individual bills here and there (and the budgets). So when 2010 came along, a bad year for Democrats everywhere was a catastrophic loss here.

        We have no infrastructure and no funding.  The Texas Democratic Party earlier this summer was calling Texans asking them to send $ to the DNC and national candidates.  A family member of a certain Democratic Senate candidate received such a call and, when asking why they don't call to raise money for Texas candidates, was told: they can't win.

        It is one thing for us to be an ATM.  It is quite another for our own party to give our money away.

        Obama's team blew a chance to make this more interesting when they did not begin a true organizing effort in Texas in 2009.  Just getting Texas to be a state where the Republicans had to spend some time and money (think 1992) is a win right now. He should have invested $10 to $15 million, minimum, and tasked his best GOTV people to go down to Bexar County and the border counties and build a grassroots.

        Now, I know the GOP is going to fuck this up, continue to alienate Hispanics to the point where the "Big Brown Wave" election finally happens and Texas becomes California. The point is that our party leaders and political interests have had no plan or strategy to make that happen more quickly.  They thought the Dream Team Ticket of 2002 would do it.  "Hey, we have a Hispanic running for governor! Vote for us!"  But there has been no consistently discussed agenda, no coordination and no real, sustained voter identification and mobilization effort. We have steadfastly NOT given Hispanics a reason to vote FOR us. If we are elected, here is what we will do. Here is how we will do it.  We haven't even had consistent opposition to many of the GOPs initiatives, save Voter ID, redistricting and some tort reform bills. Messaging wise, those are fucking terrible things for us to go to the mat over.  Hell, there were only two NO votes in the Senate for the redistricing plan that fucked Wendy Davis.  Most of the Senators didn't even want her to stand up and fight their school financing plan.

        We should not still be where we are. We are because everyone with power and command has been fighting to keep their little slice of the pie.  

        We desperately need a top of the ticket leader. I hope Castro is the guy. My worry is that a bunch of jealous fucks will undermine him and fight whomever becomes THE GUY/GAL because, hey, that's just what we do.

        God it's so painful that something that's so close, is still so far out of reach. Tom Petty/Al Gore

        by Velvet Revolution on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 01:13:10 PM PDT

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        •  completely agree (1+ / 0-)
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          I guess I took issue with "the lack of fight" quote.. In the context of all the fights the D's have took on since the Repubs took control in 2002, I wouldn't call them a bunch of Joe Liebermans..  

          But I hear ya'.  Current state of affairs is not great..  I agree with this: "everyone .. has been fighting to keep their little slice of the pie."

          Speaking of which, I gave up my bite of pie and moved on to other pursuits..

        •  Oh boy (1+ / 0-)
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          We should not still be where we are. We are because everyone with power and command has been fighting to keep their little slice of the pie.  
          That is the absolute TRUTH!

          The Spice must Flow!

          by Texdude50 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 02:20:31 PM PDT

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      •  Don't Forget To Mention... (1+ / 0-)
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        that Texas house members left the state to prevent a quorum from passing the De Lay redistricting. I'd say they were the example for the WI legislators who did the same.

        "Force is as pitiless to the man who possesses it, or thinks he does, as it is to its victims; the second it crushes, the first it intoxicates.” Simone Weil

        by chuco35 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 01:36:51 PM PDT

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        •  But (1+ / 0-)
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          Look at what we have stood up for and fought to the death over: 2003 CONGRESSIONAL redistricting, Voter ID and tort reform.

          How does that inspire the people we need to vote to come out and vote for us?

          Clinton's nomination speech. That's our template. It ain't fucking hard.

          God it's so painful that something that's so close, is still so far out of reach. Tom Petty/Al Gore

          by Velvet Revolution on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 01:45:44 PM PDT

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  •  the day Texas goes purple.. (12+ / 0-)

    .. is the day that we bury the right-wing's aspirations of ever holding national office again.  

    And it needs to happen sooner rather than later.

    Texas is not a lost cause, folks.  Truth is - it's just an expensive state to campaign in, and Republicans easily have the fundraising advantage in statewide races.  Virtually all of our media markets are in the top 100, with Houston and Dallas in the top ten.

    I think the best move the DNC can make would be to choose San Antonio to host their convention in 2016.

  •  I live in Ohio (3+ / 0-)
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    And I can see parallels. Ohio is about as 50:50 as you can get, yet pretty much all the statewide offices are held by republicans, they control the supreme court, and have the majority of US house seats and will likely hold these for the foreseeable future unless there is some change in how we draw districts.
    Same is probably true for Texas unless you can run a statewide ballot issue to change districting to a more competitive model. God knows what kind of imbecile would ever cast a vote for Louis Ghomert?

    Just another day in Oceania.

    by drshatterhand on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 12:06:27 PM PDT

    •  Re-districting? (1+ / 0-)
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      Can you tell us more about the ballot initiative to change redistricting in Ohio?

      This is something we all need to get behind in every state. It's going to have to be a grassroots effort because entrenched partisan interests in every state will resist.

      How did it get on the ballot in Ohio? Who is driving it? What are the chances it will pass? This would make a terrific diary!

      "Let us not look back to the past with anger, nor towards the future with fear, but look around with awareness." James Thurber

      by annan on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 12:13:53 PM PDT

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    •  Who votes for Louie Gohmert? (0+ / 0-)

      The people in my district unforuntately

      Barack Obama for President '12

      by v2aggie2 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 09:58:21 PM PDT

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  •  Meanwhile, no one is helping Sadler (7+ / 0-)

    despite all this handwringing and the greatest year to regain Democratic votes in Texas.

    HUGE opportunity was lost by not including Sadler in the DNC. He could have introduced Mayor Castro in order to both introduce himself and to demonstrate visually the alliances between white and Hispanic Democratic Texans, but no.

    Sadler CAN win this year against a bat shit crazy Tea Partier but only if the Texas Democratic Party and the Dems of all major urban counties got together and plugged him with money and endorsements and air time. No one is helping him. Bless him, he is traveling all over this state speaking in every corner, driving himself and speaking to crowds of 50 or so at the most. This is not a formula for success against a smarmy asshole who wants to dismantle government and doesn't believe in climate change.

    We can talk a blue streak about Texas turning purple, but we're going to lose - again - by not promoting who we've got. Too late to think, well he should be Hispanic, he should be a Castro or he should be a woman. Paul's serving us by running, let's fricking support him with time, money and attention!

    The arc of the universe is long, but it bends toward justice - MLK

    by Ripeness Is All on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 12:32:43 PM PDT

    •  He's getting some (4+ / 0-)

      money from me. Instead of the DNC. See if I can't talk some of my friends and family into donating as well. They all hate the GOP.

      The Spice must Flow!

      by Texdude50 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 12:49:56 PM PDT

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    •  You do have to help yourself as well (0+ / 0-)

      Sadler ran a horribly uninspired primary campaign with a weak 35% against 3 people with no experience in the first round before the runoff.

      He has only raised $140,000 through July.
      For some perspective, Texas State Senator Wendy Davis had raised $820,000 at that point. And we have 31 state senate districts.

      When you say, as Sadler did, that calling prospective donors is not his style, then don't be surprised when money does not flow in.  Nobody is entitled to donations.  You have to work for it.

      As for a DNC speech, Sadler is not a exciting speaker by any stretch.  And that would have been a major negative there.

      Barack Obama for President '12

      by v2aggie2 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 10:05:46 PM PDT

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  •  Tennessee is likewise problematic for Democrats. (3+ / 0-)
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    The state party has largely disintegrated from incompetence.

    Life is the ultimate economic bubble; we leave this life with all the capital we initially invested: none.

    by Superskepticalman on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 01:09:34 PM PDT

  •  Tomorrow at 1445 N Loop W (4+ / 0-)

    The Harris County Democratic Party (Houston!) holds Brown Bag Lunches the 2nd Thursday of each month at noon. Someone speaks and it is educational. Tomorrow will be a panel discussion by members of and candidates for the Texas House.
    The room is almost always reasonably full, but this is only a tiny fraction of the possible people in the Houston area. We could be swamped if more people wanted to attend. I suppose the solution if that happened would be to have similar events in more Democratic clubs throughout the city.
    Who invited me into Brown Bag Lunches? I invited myself.
    Most of the 1960's I was a Republican. In 1972 I really got into the Democratic Party in the Houston area. I helped a guy get elected State Representative from the Montrose area.

    Censorship is rogue government.

    by scott5js on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 02:11:26 PM PDT

  •  I hope Hinojosa (3+ / 0-)

    is up to the task. I think he is. He seemed a little overwhelmed at the DNC last week (who wouldn't be?) but he is willing to put in the work to build this party back up. I recently just resigned my chair position of my county party (because I moved) and they're in serious trouble over there. I told Hinojosa as much and he's going to help us as much as he can.

    This is not a knock on Boyd Richie, either. Boyd did an awful lot to shore up a party that was essentially nonexistent. His wife, Betty, also does some excellent work with the DNC's rural council.

    The Paul Sadler situation makes me angry as well. Sadler is a good guy with some good ideas but no one seems to be helping him, save for a small group of volunteers and small-time donors. He could be formidable if he had some more cash.

  •  I used to live in Austin & Dallas in the 1980s... (3+ / 0-)
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    ....and attended U-T. I also interned for (at the time) State Rep. Lena Guerrero (RIP) and worked on numerous campaigns including those of Gov. Mark White, Lieutenant Gov. Bob Bullock, State Rep. Libby Linebarger, State Rep. Glen Maxey (who ran for Lena's seat once Gov. Ann Richards appointed her to the Tx. RR Commission). I left Tx. in 1991 right after we got Ann Richards elected Governor and Bob Bullock Lt. Gov and the Dems won almost every state-wide office that year. I also was thrilled that Dan Morales was elected Atty. General. The Texas Democratic Party used to be strong and influential and held many state-wide offices and at least one of the branches of the state legislature for many years. My Congressman was Rep. Jake Pickle, a wonderful, progressive Congressman. Mickey Leland was also a progressive Congressman who unfortunately, was killed in a plane crash years ago. There was also my professor at U-T, Sarah Weddington who was the lawyer who successfully argued Roe vs. Wade before the Supreme Court.  Influential feminists such as journalists Liz Carpenter and Molly Ivins also made Texas a nice place to live. So much of my progressive grounding in politics happened during my Austin years which will positively affect me for the rest of my life (I now live in Virginia).

    However, I have no idea what happened to the Tx. Democratic Party once Ann Richards got ousted by George W. Bush in 1994 (and Lena Guerrero previous to that, lost her election because of lying on her resume). It seems like the Tx. Dem. Party imploded and has been dead ever since. I haven't lived in Tx. since 1991 but have been keeping an eye on its political situation, constantly trying to figure out *WHAT HAPPENED. I still have no idea but reading your post helped me to understand more of what is going on. I hope that the Tx. Democratic Party will eventually come back to life. I know there are progressives there and not just in Austin. I know there are many also in Dallas, San Antonio, Houston, etc. I get so sad that the Tx. political situation has descended into the worst nightmare Taliban scenario. I keep hoping it will change soon....but it just never seems to happen.

    If Not Us, Who,..... If Not Now, When?

    by VirginiaBlue on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 04:19:43 PM PDT

    •  I came of age (4+ / 0-)

      in 1990. My first vote was for Ann. The 90's to me was a horror story, watching the Democrats slowly fall apart. Many of the things in my responses are from memory. I remember praying it wasn't true about Lena, because I liked her. And I was sad when she passed away. Dan I am still so mad at...

      But it did implode and there was nothing left to support it after 1998. Honestly, I think Paul Hobby ran out of a sense of duty to the state and his family. He came closest to grabbing a seat, but couldn't.

      I think it will change, but we are the change that has to happen.

      The Spice must Flow!

      by Texdude50 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 04:33:07 PM PDT

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  •  Remember that Texas like other Southern Bible Belt (0+ / 0-)

    and agricultural states has always been conservative.

    It was conservative when it was dominantly Democratic.

    The Democratic party did not effectively hold onto its voters in the outfall of the various movements of the 60's and 70's and the Republicans effectively coopted them.

    Now the Democrats will have to work hard to regain Texas, and it cannot do that by just relying on the increasing percentage of Mexican voters.  It will have to make the effort to include them in more than name only.  Oh yeah that also goes for Blacks, and women and all of us who are not white rich men.

    The Dim party should be the natural party of the non white rich conservative male voter but they have to include us in their goals and not bad mouth us in non election years.  (See Rham's/Obama's approach post 2008 to understand why some of us are still keeping Obama and many Dims at arm's reach.

  •  Houston (2+ / 0-)
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    Would be a good location for our convention in 2016. Reliant Stadium has a retractable roof.

    Okay, if there's no god, then who changes the water? --One goldfish to another

    by s choir on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 06:02:50 PM PDT

  •  TX Dems should play the long game (3+ / 0-)
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    As a Democrat in long-Republican (and only recently swingy) Virginia, I know how frustrating it can be to know that a good many of your fellow citizens are with you, but not quite enough to get to victory.  

    For years when I was younger, I would just keep looking at those result maps of VA, thinking how we could win if only we could just get more of the DC exurbs and the Richmond and Hampton Roads suburbs to stop mindlessly pressing the "R" button, as they had been since Nixon.  

    In TX, I've noticed that Houston and Dallas, formerly Republican-leaning, seem to be tilting a bit Democratic these days, but sadly that has been accompanied by a corresponding suge of Republican backing in the rural and small town areas that used to be Democratic in the 70s and 80s.

    What it may take is a crisis of leadership in the state Republican party.  That's what it took in VA to awaken us from our R-default slumber, when Gov. Jim Gilmore first reneged on his pledge to repeal the car tax, and then failed to agree with his own party on how to keep the budget together.  Suddenly, the myth of Republican competence was shattered (somewhat) and suddenly Mark Warner, Tim Kaine, and Jim Webb looked more like the reasonable adults.

    The surest sign TX is about to go Democratic, when it happens, will be Tarrant County, the Austin exurbs (Bastrop, Caldwell, Hays, and Williamson Counties) and the Houston suburbs in Fort Bend County switching.  Assuming TX follows the VA pattern, the new Dem votes will be mainly from these areas (plus possibly, over 40% Dem numbers from Collin & Denton Counties in the Dallas suburbs).

    Don't give up!

    All your vote are belong to us.

    by Harkov311 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 06:57:06 PM PDT

  •  For this reason (2+ / 0-)
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    BC Progressive, Texdude50

    For this reason and others, I send my money to individual candidates, rather than the party apparatus. The DNC is a conservative farce of what it used to mean to be a Democrat and I won't send them money so they can steer it away from my district to support some blue dog somewhere who'll vote in lock step with Republicans. One reason that the national Democratic congressional delegation from Texas is so thin is because that, as head of the DCCC, Rahm Emanuel was all too eager to concede Texas and move the funding into other regions and districts. This left Texas Democrats, good, liberal Democrats, without a prayer of getting any name recognition, much less elected to office. Texas was reliably blue for decades until internal factors like you accurately cite combined with carpet baggers like Emanuel acted in an official capacity to cede it to Republicans without a fight. Hopefully rebuilding from the ground up without the party's help will keep it from becoming the money driven, festering cesspool of corruption it used to be. It's time for honest, progressive representation, not a bunch of partisan politicians who pick a side like they pick a sports team. After the way the national Dems treated Texas liberals as if we were expendable, I neither owe nothing to nor have a great deal of use for the national party.

    "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for a real Republican every time." Harry Truman

    by MargaretPOA on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 07:58:45 PM PDT

  •  A few years ago, some Texan putz was interviewed (1+ / 0-)
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    on the radio and said that if he had the power to stop 9/11 OR remove all the Democrats from the Texas legislature, he'd do the latter.

    I loved my time in Austin, but it's an island of blue in a vast sea of red, surrounded by hundreds of miles of Texas and millions of Texans. What a shame.

    •  You left out some rather POPULOUS islands (1+ / 0-)
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      in Dallas County, Harris Cou nty, El Paso County, the Valley...

      Would you like ot meet the Dallas County lesbian Hispanic Sheriff, Lupe Valdez?  Or the black County DA, Cfraig Watkins, who is recognized NATIONALLY for DNA- and other evidence-related exonerations of erroneous convictions for murder and other serious crimes?

      Just sayin'...yer not the only "island" in the red sea there in Austin.

      Peace (and Texas beer!).

      Torture is Wrong! We live near W so you don't have to. Send love.

      by tom 47 on Thu Sep 13, 2012 at 11:28:28 AM PDT

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      •  Heck with beer. 'Cue! (0+ / 0-)

        I only lived in Austin for 6 months, but would like to return. I went for job reasons, and even though I'd heard good things about the place, I went grudgingly. After about 2 weeks, I didn't want to leave. My sister lives in San Antonio, so it was great being that close, and I liked the funky, fun vibe of Austin--even if it does have a tower that looks like a giant cuttlefish at night.

  •  As someone from Texas who has actually converted (3+ / 0-)
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    2 Reps to the Dem side, this has been my experience:

    Look them straight in the eye and tell them "I am a Democrat."

    Be well informed and never say anything that you know is not true.

    The Reps here look at me like they are gonna whip my ass when I take up for Democrats and the president, but I get right back in their face.  Texans respect that.

    We need to get loud and we need to get in their faces.  Our leaders have no balls, and our media down here is so bad that noone in the whole dam state has any idea what the hell is going on in Austin.

    The Democrats accross the nation just ignore us assuming that it is hopeless, but always asking Texas Dems to give them money.

    IMHO, the Democratic strategy is screwed up. Instead of fighting only in places where we think we have a chance, we should go for the HEART of the problem, and that is here in Texas.

    Democrats can take back Texas easier than people think, especially if we could get out of state help from the yankees and elsewhere.

    This is just my opinion and I am not perfect, so when you disagree
    with me do it respectfully.

    This "Trickle Down" thing has turned out to be somebody pissing on my leg and tellin' me it's rainin'.

    by swtexas on Thu Sep 13, 2012 at 10:09:28 AM PDT

    •  I get in (1+ / 0-)
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      people's faces here all the time. I enjoy it. Texas blue = death of GOP national dreams.

      The Spice must Flow!

      by Texdude50 on Thu Sep 13, 2012 at 10:15:25 AM PDT

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    •  Hell yeah! (1+ / 0-)
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      Say it loud, say it proud- I am a Texas Democrat.

      We need to stop letting talking points float around the office and our families unchecked because we're being polite and don't want to start "drama". Accept that you engaging is in no way starting drama. You weren't the one who brought it up in the first place and violated the rules of polite society we were all raised with (no politics/religion in public).

      •  Thank you. I hate to lower myself to their level (2+ / 0-)
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        but they will stomp me in to the ground if I don't.
        But the difference between my fight and theirs is that I have facts and I always look for the things they will agree with, because Americans realize(not all but many) is that we all agree on most things.

        This "Trickle Down" thing has turned out to be somebody pissing on my leg and tellin' me it's rainin'.

        by swtexas on Thu Sep 13, 2012 at 10:36:16 AM PDT

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      •  We are gonna have to get mad and give these (2+ / 0-)
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        Texdude50, entrelac

        nuts a verbal ass-whipping as often as possible- relentlessly.

        This "Trickle Down" thing has turned out to be somebody pissing on my leg and tellin' me it's rainin'.

        by swtexas on Thu Sep 13, 2012 at 10:44:15 AM PDT

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      •  An aside (1+ / 0-)
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        This presidential season I've been watching the yard signs/bumper stickers.

        I've seen 1 Romney. Maybe a dozen Ron Paul ones, and at least as many for Obama.  

        I'm a little surprised that I've seen the Obama / democratic stickers on different vehicles. I've been questioned, and had my car keyed  by having stickers on my car (Darwin fish, while in Indiana).

        I'm in Tarrant County, and most of the driving is in Tarrant and Denton.  So plenty red in the area.

        It leaves me feeling that there is some hope for even Tarrant and Denton. :)

    •  Again, when Texas Democrats help themselves (0+ / 0-)

      things will change.

      But only when Texas Democrats help themselves

      Barack Obama for President '12

      by v2aggie2 on Thu Sep 13, 2012 at 11:32:38 PM PDT

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