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I'm sorry if this argument seems simplistic. It is. But it's essential and is being ignored. Here's the logic:

Egyptian Embassy statement was against hate speech.

Egyptian Embassy was criticizing what certain people had "said" and shown in a movie they made. Because it was against another religion, and it hurt people who believe totally in that religion.

Yet. Romney comes out attacking them.

And. Romney says Obama is attacking "our values."

He means that the Egyptian Embassy attacked our values and Obama caused that, or is responsible for that.

Is he saying no one should criticize hate speech? There can be no "abuse" of it?

That because we love and allow free speech we cannot criticize hate speech? We cannot express our opinion about some particular speech?

Is he saying that he tolerates hate speech to such an extent that he would never speak out against that hate no matter if it stirs up violence and even wars, for instance?

Please continue reading........

In America, we value and protect the right to speak anything virtually.

That does not mean we approve of all speech!

That does not mean we cannot speak against hate speech! Or hate movies or books.

What difference does it make if one is criticizing hate speech or criticizing the speech a president just made?

What is the f'n difference, Mr. Romney?

The Egyptian Embassy did not make a statement against Free Speech. Rather, they complained and decried the particular hatred toward a particular religion in a movie, in "speech."

They did not say there should not be Free Speech. They said speaking so hatefully toward a religion was abusing the value of Free Speech.

There is a difference between saying it is "abuse" and in saying it should not be allowed, or quelled.

They spoke against the content, not the right!

They made a statement against people who "abuse" it by making hate-mongering comments/movies. That's different.

Should Americans not condemn hate speech?

Should we allow hate speech to cause violence and/or wars even, and say nothing? We should go mute or be accused of being against Free Speech?

No. For even while protecting their right to make that speech, we too have a RIGHT to condemn the content of their speech!

a·buse    verb (used with object)
1. to use wrongly or improperly; misuse: to abuse one's authority.
2. to treat in a harmful, injurious, or offensive way: to abuse a horse; to abuse one's eyesight.
3. to speak insultingly, harshly, and unjustly to or about; revile; malign.
People such as Terry Jones "pastor" of hate, who promoted this movie on his website, and Morris Sadek"* who caused the movie to be made, they need to be condemned as having abused the right and privilege of Free Speech.

I love the value of Free Speech.

I use my Free Speech to say they abused Free Speech by spewing dangerous hurtful hatred of a religion and its peoples.

I'm sorry if this argument seems simplistic. It is. But it's essential.

Because some people just don't get it.

*The US guy who backed this film says he's sorry people died. That he was just trying to show how Christians are being persecuted. Sure. By portraying Muslims as perverted. By thus condemning all Muslims.

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  •  Tip Jar (5+ / 0-)

    "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

    by Gorette on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 12:18:14 PM PDT

  •  & while writing this Romney now condemns (0+ / 0-)

    the movie.

    So he realized he has to hate hate too.

    Hate speech is abuse of Free Speech, eh, gov?

    He could not reach this conclusion on his own. Someone got to him!

    Jed @ DK

    "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

    by Gorette on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 12:24:39 PM PDT

  •  To Romney Isamophobia is an "American principle" (2+ / 0-)
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    JDsg, Gorette

    The embassy criticized a hate-mongering movie.  To Romney that criticism constitutes an "apology for American principles."  Hence, to Romney hate-mongering is an American principle.

    What a sicko.

  •  Good points, Gorette. Reminds me of when many (1+ / 0-)
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    Christians (and non-Christians as well) denounced that artist who did an installation of a crucifix in urine.  Though the artist had a right to do it, the display was painfully offensive to many observers. I didn't like it myself though I'm not a mono-theist. I thought it was unkind and impolite and served no good purpose, artistic or otherwise.

    Imagine if that American display had been set up in some mono-cultural part of the US where the citizenry were mostly Christian fundamentalists.  

    The fundamentalist Muslims have more in common with fundamentalist Christians than either have with rationalists.

    "'s difficult to imagine what else Republicans can do to drive women away in 2012, unless they decide to bring back witch-hanging. And I wouldn't put it past them." James Wolcott

    by Mayfly on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 01:14:41 PM PDT

  •  that was my thought this morning (2+ / 0-)
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    JDsg, Gorette

    " Mitt Romney supports the right to yell 'Fire!' in a crowded theater?  Fascinating."

  •  Don't forget (1+ / 0-)
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    When Romney was given the opportunity to express an opinion on the Limbag "Sandra Fluke is a slut" barrage of venom sent her way, he would only say that he would have chosen different words. He agreed with everything Rush said. He agreed that making up heinous, defamatory lies about a woman testifying in front of a Congressional hearing about availability of birth control to women who have paid for insurance is an, no the appropriate response.

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