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Here is the transcript of the video clip above. It's from an exclusive interview with Al Jazeera that Libyan Interim President Al-Magariaf gave today.

Al-Magariaf: It's clear from the timing, on Sept 11th, and from the detailed planning of the attacks, indicates that behind it there was experienced masterminds. It was not a spontaneous act in protest of the movie. This has been prepared for a long time, on this specific day.

Interviewer: So what you're saying is that this attack was well-planned, and it would have happened anyways, despite the movie?

Al-Magariaf: Of course. No doubt. The whole operation was prepared and it took advantage of the movie as justification. If you take into account the weapons used, like RPGs and other heavy weapons, it proves that it was pre-planned. It's a dirty act of revenge, and has nothing to do with religion.

Interviewer: Over the past few months, there've been several attacks, the killing of the American Ambassador being the biggest one. But all along we've been hearing that those were Gaddafi remnants. Now, you have a different point of view, don't you?

Al-Magariaf: There is no doubt that there are remnants of Gaddafi who are operating inside Libya, and on the borders, but if the killers where from the former regime, and they had the ability to execute such attacks, they would have chosen another date. They would have targeted the leadership in Tripoli or government institutions, not the US Consulate in Benghazi. It's impossible that this operation can be from the former regime.

Interviewer: Do you know how many the extremists are?

Al-Magariaf: I don't think they are in big numbers.

Interviewer: I think they are very few to make a lot of problems.

Al-Magariaf: But they know the Security Forces are weak. There is a vacuum. The Security Forces and the brigades are infiltrated. Even if they are in small numbers, they can cause a lot of destruction. This was an act of revenge. It will have an impact on the US-Libyan relations, and it puts the Libyan Revolution in danger. We have to bring to justice the perpetrators.

Interviewer: Many people we spoke to said that they were very worried. Killing the US Ambassador is not a small matter, at all. There's a lot of rumors - the FBI coming here to investigate, the Marines may have already arrived --

Al-Magariaf: There are many rumors. There are many expected steps that will be taken. There are previous examples of how the US Administration dealt with similar situations. The Libyan cause has its own uniqueness. There is a will from both sides to understand, negotiate and compromise, in the interest of the country.

Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 10:10 PM PT: I have done my best to provide you with an accurate transcript. Please let me know if there are any mistakes.

More from Al-Jazerra:

His comments to Al Jazeera marked the first time his government has openly attributed acts of violence to religious extremists. Libya's deputy interior minister had blamed the attack on Gaddafi loyalists on Wednesday.

While Gaddafi loyalists maintained a presence inside Libya, al-Magarief said, there was no chance that they were behind the attack that killed four US consular staff members. There were only a few al-Qaeda members active in Libya, he said, but they were profiting from the security vacuum and had managed to infiltrate the security forces.

Arms proliferation

One of the biggest factors contributing to the ongoing instability in Libya is the proliferation of arms left over from the 2011 conflict that toppled Muammar Gaddafi, combined with a central government severely weakened by tribal rivalries.

[...]

In another example of the state's vulnerability to the armed groups, the airspace over Benghazi was closed for several hours on Friday morning after opposition fighters allegedly threatened to shoot down US drones flying over the area.

Investigation underway

The Libyan authorities began examining the scene of Wednesday's violence late on Friday afternoon, a military spokesperson told Al Jazeera, while Libyan soldiers stood guard outside the US consulate. Ahmed Faraj, the spokesperson, told Al Jazeera the investigative team had arrived at around 4pm local time (2:00 GMT).

The Libyan authorities arrested four people in relation to the killings on Thursday, according to reports by Reuters news agency.

More Information About The Worldwide Protests Sparked By Nakoula's Film:

UPDATE: Taliban Claim Responsibility for Afghanistan Attack and Blame Anti-Islam Film

Afghanistan's Taliban claimed responsibility on Saturday for an attack on a base which U.S. officials said killed two American Marines, saying it was in response to a film that insults the Prophet Mohammad.

Camp Bastion, in southern Helmand province, came under mortar, rocket-propelled grenade and small arms fire late on Friday.

The assault also wounded several servicemen.

"The aim of this attack was revenge against Americans for the anti-Prophet movie," said Taliban spokesman Qari Yousuf.

UPDATE 2: From Reuters: Al-Qaeda in Yemen Urging Murder of US Diplomats
The Yemen-based branch of al Qaeda urged Muslims to step up protests and kill more U.S. diplomats in Muslim countries after a U.S.-made film mocking the Prophet Mohammad which it said was another chapter in the "crusader wars" against Islam.

"Whoever comes across America's ambassadors or emissaries should follow the example of Omar al-Mukhtar's descendants (Libyans), who killed the American ambassador," the group said, referring to Tuesday's attack on the U.S. consulate in the Libyan city of Benghazi...

Fury about the film swept across the Middle East after Friday prayers, with protesters attacking U.S. embassies and in protests that killed at least seven people and prompted Washington to send troops to bolster security at its missions...

AQAP, mostly militants mainly from Yemen and Saudi Arabia, is regarded by the United States as the most dangerous branch of the network founded by Osama bin Laden.

Libyan Security Guard Describes Attack On Embassy (Kansas City Star):
Libyan security guard who said he was at the U.S. consulate here when it was attacked Tuesday night has provided new evidence that the assault on the compound that left four Americans dead, including the U.S. ambassador to Libya, was a planned attack by armed Islamists and not the outgrowth of a protest over an online video that mocks Islam and its founder, the Prophet Muhammad.

The guard, interviewed Thursday in the hospital where he is being treated for five shrapnel wounds in one leg and two bullet wounds in the other, said that the consulate area was quiet – “there wasn’t a single ant outside,” he said – until about 9:35 p.m., when as many as 125 armed men descended on the compound from all directions.

The men lobbed grenades into the compound, wounding the guard and knocking him to the ground, then stormed through the facility’s main gate, shouting “God is great” and moving to one of the many villas that make up the consulate compound. He said there had been no warning that an attack was imminent. “Wouldn’t you expect if there were protesters outside that the Americans would leave?” the guard said.

The guard, located by searching hospitals for people injured Tuesday night, said he was 27 years old but declined to give his name. He asked that the hospital where he is being treated not be identified for fear that militants would track him down and kill him. He said he was able to escape by telling one of the attackers that he was only a gardener at the compound. The attacker took him to the hospital, the guard said.

Additional eye-witness account from the UK's Guardian:
"Better security would not have stopped this," said Adel Ibrahim, the owner of the accommodation building where blood is now spattered beneath a hole smashed in a wall by a heavy projectile. "A security unit is fine if you are facing 10 persons, but there were 400 attackers. [The Americans] would have needed an army to stop them."
[...]

It is clear the US staff and their Libyan guards were subjected to a terrifying, night-long ordeal, which began with protests outside the consulate in the al-Fawahat residential district. Demonstrators gathered in the narrow Venice Street outside the main gated entrance, voicing protests against the reported release in the US of a film that ridiculed Islam.

The protest quickly turned violent, the landlords said. Who fired first is a matter of dispute, with some claiming the Libyan security guards hired by the Americans shot in the air, panicking the crowd.

There is no doubt about what happened next. The compound is bound by a breeze-block wall topped by barbed wire, but it was not enough to stop the attackers. "They jumped in from everywhere," said Ahmed Busheri, owner of the consulate.

UPDATE 3:  Here's a link to a map of the protests currently taking place across the world. Thank you, Claudius Bombarnac, for the link! I wasn't able to embed the actual map, unfortunately.

UPDATE 4: Here is a partial list of cities where protests are taking place. Thank you, joynow, for the link!

— LEBANON: Security forces opened fire in the northeastern Lebanese city of Tripoli, killing one person after a crowd angry over the film set fire to a KFC and a Hardee's restaurant. About 25 people were wounded in the melee, including 18 policemen who were hit with stones and glass.

— SUDAN: Several hundred protesters stormed the German Embassy in the capital, Khartoum, burning a car parked behind its gates and trash cans before police firing tear gas drove them out. There appeared to be no injuries to embassy staff and no apparent damage to the building. Most protesters then dispersed, but one group marched to the nearby British Embassy.

— YEMEN: Security forces shot live rounds in the air and fired tear gas at a crowd of around 2,000 protesters trying to march to the U.S. Embassy in the capital, Sanaa. Police kept the crowd at bay about a block away. Friday's demonstration came a day after hundreds stormed the embassy compound and burned the American flag.

— EGYPT: Riot police clashed with hundreds of protesters blocks away from the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, as the president broadcast an appeal to Muslims to protect embassies and tried to patch up strained relations with Washington. After weekly prayers, a crowd in Cairo's Tahrir Square tore up an American flag, and waved a black, Islamist flag. When protesters tried to move toward the embassy, ranks of police confronted them, firing tear gas.

— IRAN: Thousands shouted “Death to America” and “Death to Israel” in Tehran in a demonstration after Friday prayers. Some burned the American and Israeli flags. State TV says similar protests were held in other Iranian cities.

— BAHRAIN: More than 2,000 protesters chanted against the film and burned American and Israeli flags after Friday prayers in Diraz, outside the capital, Manama. Security forces were absent. Separately, Bahrain's Interior Ministry ordered media regulators to attempt to block access to the film clip.

— IRAQ: Hundreds demonstrated in Baghdad's northern Sunni neighborhood of Azamaiyah, some shouting: “No, no America! No, no to Israel,” and, “We are ready to sacrifice ourselves for our Prophet.” Dozens also marched in Baghdad's poor Sadr City district. In the southern city of Basra, about 1,000 took to the streets and burned the American and Israeli flags. One banner said: “Freedom doesn't mean offending two billion Muslims.”

— TUNISIA: A crowd of several thousand demonstrators protested outside the US embassy in Tunis. Police responded to stone-throwing with tear gas. An AP reporter on the scene witnessed several people overcome by intense clouds of gas. Tunisia's official news agency said two people died and 29 others were injured. State news agency TAP said both people killed were demonstrators, while the injured included protesters and police.

— ISRAEL: The Israeli police say about 400 people marched toward the U.S. consulate in east Jerusalem in protest over the prophet film. Demonstrators threw bottles and stones at police, who responded by firing stun grenades. Four protesters were arrested and the crowd was prevented from reaching the U.S. consulate.

— WEST BANK: In the city of Nablus, about 200 people demonstrated against the film as Muslim clerics throughout the territory preached against it in Friday sermons.

— SYRIA: About 200 protesters waved the Syrian flag and shouted anti-American slogans outside the long-closed U.S. Embassy in Damascus. The crowd held banners saying: “He who curses the Prophet doesn't seek democracy” and “a nation whose Prophet is Muhammad, would never kneel down.” The U.S. embassy has been closed since February because of the country's bloody conflict that has killed about 23,000 people.

— AFGHANISTAN: About 1,500 protested outside the eastern city of Jalalabad, shouting “Death to America” and urging President Hamid Karzai to sever relations with the U.S.

— PAKISTAN: Hundreds of hardline Muslims held peaceful protests against the film throughout Pakistan, shouting slogans and carrying banners criticizing the U.S. and those involved in the film. Police in Islamabad set up barricades and razor wire to block off a diplomatic enclave where the U.S. Embassy and many other foreign missions are located.

— QATAR: About 1,000 protesters gathered outside the heavily guarded U.S. Embassy in the capital Doha, chanting anti-US slogans and calling for Washington to remove its military presence from the strategic Gulf nation.
An influential cleric reminded worshippers that the American government had no role in the film and that “loyalty to the Prophet is not expressed by attacking embassies.”

— GREAT BRITAIN: In London, around 250 protesters marched noisily but peacefully through Britain's capital to the U.S. embassy. The group, which called itself the “Defenders of The Prophet,” held placards denouncing the U.S. and perceived Western imperialism.

— TURKEY: Hundreds of people gathered in Istanbul's Beyazit Square to protest the prophet film. The protest was organized by Turkey's main Islamist political party, Saadet.

— INDIA: Thousands protested in the volatile Indian-controlled region of Kashmir, burning U.S. flags and calling President Barack Obama a “terrorist.” The top government cleric reportedly demanded Americans leave immediately.
In the southern city of Chennai, protesters threw stones at the U.S. Consulate, shattering some windows and burning an effigy of Obama. Police quickly cleared the area, arresting more than 100 protesters.

— BANGLADESH: Some 5,000 hardline Muslims marched in the streets of the capital, Dhaka, after Friday prayers, burning U.S. and Israeli flags and calling for the death of the filmmaker. Police prevented them from marching toward the U.S. Embassy several miles away.

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  •  You expect these people to exist but, (13+ / 0-)
    Al-Magariaf: There is no doubt that there are remnants of Gaddafi, who are operating inside Libya, and on the borders, but if the killers where from the former regime, and they had the ability to execute such attacks, they would have chosen another date. They would have targeted the leadership in Tripoli or the government institutions, not the US Consulate in Benghazi. It's impossible that this operation can be from the former regime.
    It makes sense.

    Could it be a combination?

    Former regime remnants with an Al Qaeda remnant?  Or something even more organized?

    I hope we catch them soon and just fortify the embassy.  We need stronger communications with the current governments.

    Daily Kos an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action.

    by Shockwave on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 10:10:10 PM PDT

  •  The people behind these protests and attacks (22+ / 0-)

    are ultra conservatives. Ultimately what they stand for is religious fundamentalism. Obama and Clinton-- and the United States more generally-- stand for pluralism and freedom of speech. We have true ideological allies in the region, but they are the leftists and secularists.

    But twice, once in 1973, when the oil embargo permanently halted the advance of the American middle class, and once in 1979-80, when the Iranian hostage crisis brought Ronald Reagan to power, Middle Eastern ultra conservatives have succeeded in shifting American politics sharply to the right, as well. We can't let that happen again.

    "It is, it seems, politically impossible to organize expenditure on the scale necessary to prove my case -- except in war conditions."--JM Keynes, 1940

    by randomfacts on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 10:13:15 PM PDT

  •  Nobody could see this coming. (massive snark) (4+ / 0-)
    took advantage of the movie as justification

    "Four more years!" (Obama Unencumbered - The Sequel)

    by jwinIL14 on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 10:15:19 PM PDT

    •  sorry, I don't get what you mean (3+ / 0-)
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      that he would predictably deny his fellow countrymen had anything to do with it?
      or
      he would predictably blame Al  Q no matter what the truth?

      both?

      and you know something different about who attacked the Embassy?

      ----------------------------------

      There was a report here today somewhere (:>) that AlQ#2 had ordered ,with an announcement....,had ordered this attack to proceed.

      I see the attack as coincidental to the protest: they drive up, they start shooting, a second group is to kill the fleeing Embassy staff, the first group RPG's and shoots.
      Deadly simple, and either the crowd was an annoyance or not, but what advantage is there to have all  security staff at full alert with an angry crowd protesting...it makes no sense, better to have some children singing instead.

      In my  understanding there is little overlap between this movie and the attack, the Sept 11 is the fixed date they had planned, and went forward in spite of the crowds.

      Again, what advantage can be gained in an attack on a fixed position if they are all aware, awake, and alert?

      And on Sept 11 you would think all Embassy staff are at full alert and staffing anyway, and are planning on it, so why bother risking operational security with complex planning you don't need?

      This movie, while awful and contagiously harmful isn't a part of the Embassy military attack.

      That's my opinion anyway...

      This machine kills Fascists.

      by KenBee on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 12:23:09 AM PDT

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      •  I think jwinIL14 meant... (4+ / 0-)
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        that it was no surprise that Fundamentalists (like Al-Qaeda) would use Nakoula's "film" as an excuse to justify their attack on our Embassy.  And JW was being sarcastic (hence the snark tag) by saying that "no one could see this coming," because many of us suspected that Al-Qaeda (or a similar group) was behind this.

        At least, that's what I took JW's comment to mean. Correct me if I'm mistaken, JW.

        I don't think JW was insinuating that the Libyan President was lying.

        You can tell Romney’s depressed. Last night he just sat on his couch and bought the Häagen-Dazs corporation ~ Jimmy Fallon

        by AuroraDawn on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 12:34:43 AM PDT

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      •  Truly appreciate your take on it, & feel bit silly (1+ / 0-)
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        my level of snark was just poking 'fun' at reaction level of level of reactionaries.

        Nothing more.   ;-)

        "Four more years!" (Obama Unencumbered - The Sequel)

        by jwinIL14 on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 03:59:56 PM PDT

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  •  Correct me if I'm wrong... Didn't a private (10+ / 0-)

    contractor have the contract to protect our overseas embassies?  If they did, where were they?  I am definitely not advancing a conspiracy theory. I'm just trying to find out where security were for these buildings.

    "I came for the politics and stayed for the community" - h/t the fabulous earicicle

    by shortgirl on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 10:19:40 PM PDT

    •  That may well be true... (7+ / 0-)

      From the University of Denver:

      The Bureau of Diplomatic Security of the State Department is responsible for the protection of State Department personnel and facilities in the U.S. and abroad. The State Department has become increasingly reliant on the private sector; approximately 90 percent of all Diplomatic Security personnel are contractors. In addition to hiring contractor protective service details for U.S. and foreign government high-level officials, the State Department uses security contractors to protect embassies, other government offices, and U.S. installations abroad.

      The State Department regulates it use of private security services through a number of ways, though the primary vehicle used to control private security contractors is the contract. These contracts, named the Worldwide Protective Services (WPS) contracts, include specifications for hiring, vetting, and training security personnel. The State Department monitors contract compliance and performance through written evaluations. In addition, each contract requires the contractor to provide the State Department with status reports, incident reports, and other pertinent information. However, U.S. government audits of State Department oversight of security contractors have revealed deficiencies in the Department's application of the contracts to work in the field. The State Department has been working since these reports were issued and through the present day to remedy these issues and incorporate lessons learned into new WPS contracts.

      State Department-funded security contractors are also subject to department-wide policies and policies developed by each Embassy, and by rules promulgated by other U.S. agencies.

      You can tell Romney’s depressed. Last night he just sat on his couch and bought the Häagen-Dazs corporation ~ Jimmy Fallon

      by AuroraDawn on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 10:24:08 PM PDT

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      •  Apparently, this began during Reagan's... (4+ / 0-)
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        time in office.

        The Diplomatic Security and Anti-terrorism Act of 1986 allows private companies to compete for security contracts at U.S. embassies and missions. The first contract for private security services was awarded in 1994, but the State Department's use of security contractors greatly expanded in the early 2000's during the Iraq and Afghan wars. Security contractors are hired and managed by the State Department through umbrella contracts called Worldwide Protective Services (WPS) agreements. In March 2000, the State Department, through its Bureau of Diplomatic Security, awarded the first WPS contract to DynCorp International. Unable to fulfill all of the State Department's security needs, Blackwater and Triple Canopy were later hired as part of WPPS I. In 2005, the State Department entered into WPPS II with all three companies. WPPS III was awarded in 2009 to Triple Canopy and remains in effect today.

        You can tell Romney’s depressed. Last night he just sat on his couch and bought the Häagen-Dazs corporation ~ Jimmy Fallon

        by AuroraDawn on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 10:27:08 PM PDT

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        •  So where in the hell were they? n/t (3+ / 0-)
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          "I came for the politics and stayed for the community" - h/t the fabulous earicicle

          by shortgirl on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 10:28:16 PM PDT

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          •  Your guess is as good as mine. n/t (3+ / 0-)
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            You can tell Romney’s depressed. Last night he just sat on his couch and bought the Häagen-Dazs corporation ~ Jimmy Fallon

            by AuroraDawn on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 10:29:28 PM PDT

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          •  It's a good question. (4+ / 0-)
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            Did they get caught snoozing?

            My sister and bro-in-law are currently working at the embassy in Khartoum, Sudan and the security there has been amazing.  Seriously, it's even been a bit overboard, but Sudan wasn't this first one in line.

            I'm willing to think that the security in Libya just got caught unawares.  Not trying to defend them, really.  Just know that whoever the security is, private or not, in other places of unrest, it's been stellar.

            I'll have to ask my sis and bro-in-law the specifics of their security and what they know about Libya's.

            Can you call yourself a real liberal if you aren't reading driftglass?

            by CJB on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 10:39:29 PM PDT

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            •  Thank you for asking. I would like to know the (1+ / 0-)
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              answer.  Do you know how many embassies have been sacked in the last two days and in which countries? I've been gone all day so I don't know all the details.

              "I came for the politics and stayed for the community" - h/t the fabulous earicicle

              by shortgirl on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 10:44:28 PM PDT

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              •  I know they stormed the embassies... (2+ / 0-)
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                in Sudan and Tunisia. They continue to surround the embassy in Cairo. Many other embassies are being targeted for protests, some peaceful, others...not so much. I'm not sure how many have been "sacked", though.

                Friday saw the riots spread beyond the Middle East as scores in India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, the Philippines and Indonesia rallied after prayers. Protests were also held in Sudan, Kenya, Nigeria, Egypt, Yemen, Kuwait, Iran and Qatar, among others.
                The situation isn't good, to put it mildly. On the BBC website  someone remarked that they wouldn't want to be an American in Cairo right now.

                You can tell Romney’s depressed. Last night he just sat on his couch and bought the Häagen-Dazs corporation ~ Jimmy Fallon

                by AuroraDawn on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 10:49:10 PM PDT

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              •  I don't. (2+ / 0-)
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                Here's the Al Jazeera link.  That's where I go when things get wierd in the Arab world.  

                Looks like marines have been sent to Sudan.  That's where my interest lies, although my heart is with all that are in upheaval.  :-(

                Don't know about the rest of the countries.  There are many, though.

                Can you call yourself a real liberal if you aren't reading driftglass?

                by CJB on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 10:50:39 PM PDT

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                •  You and me both. I love Al-Jazerra English. (3+ / 0-)
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                  I can get it online and via my Roku. It's like BBC World News  for the Middle East IMHO. They actually have a very good reporting staff.

                  You can tell Romney’s depressed. Last night he just sat on his couch and bought the Häagen-Dazs corporation ~ Jimmy Fallon

                  by AuroraDawn on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 10:59:07 PM PDT

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              •  Here's an interactive google map (4+ / 0-)
                https://maps.google.com/...

                Muslim Protests
                Across the globe, a 14-minute YouTube clip of an anti-Muslim movie is sparking protests against U.S. Embassies and institutions.

          •  Two of them Died.... (7+ / 0-)

            ....protecting American lives.

            SAN DIEGO (AP) — Two Americans killed this week in an attack on a U.S. consulate in Libya were former Navy SEALs from San Diego County who always asked to be on the front lines, according to family, friends and government officials.

            Tyrone S. Woods and Glen A. Doherty, who both provided security at the consulate in Benghazi, were killed in the Tuesday attack along with U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and State Department employee Sean Smith, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said in a statement Thursday.

            http://www.boston.com/...

            Dr. Timothy Rasmusson, Woods’ former brother-in-law, said Woods was a hard-charging Navy SEAL who joined the military straight out of high school and went to work for military contractors after leaving the service a few years ago. To unwind, he drove his motorcycle and Ford Mustang at top speeds.

            But you're question is still valid.

            Why aren't Marines exclusively providing security at our embassies/consulates?

            I have a HUGE problem with a US Marine fighting alongside a independent contractor earning 5x more than he.

            Learn about Centrist Economics, learn about Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project. www.hamiltonproject.org

            by PatriciaVa on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 10:47:41 PM PDT

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            •  See that's my problem with all of this. (2+ / 0-)
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              I know they were on alert it being 9/11.  It doesn't seem right that only four people were defending in a middle eastern country especially with all the unrest.

              Something just doesn't smell right & I don't want to get into any conspiracy crap.

              "I came for the politics and stayed for the community" - h/t the fabulous earicicle

              by shortgirl on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 10:53:06 PM PDT

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            •  For whatever reason our government... (7+ / 0-)

              decided 26 years ago to start hiring contractors. Maybe it's just part of the right-wing "everything should be privatized" worldview the Reagan Revolution helped to usher in?

              Why aren't Marines exclusively providing security at our embassies/consulates? I have a HUGE problem with a US Marine fighting alongside a independent contractor earning 5x more than he.
              My brother is in the military, and I'll tell you this much, they are not fond of the contractor system. Some of the men and women involved (contractors) were decent, but the idea that career military had to work and fight alongside soldiers for hire was very upsetting to many soldiers.

              I don't want to take away anything from those who died. I'm not questioning their bravery or dedication. Clearly, they were willing to give their lives to protect our (their) embassy. I do have my doubts, however, about the corporations who employ them (Blackwater, etc.), and I, too, would prefer it if our embassies were protected by the US military.

              If there are good reasons that that isn't possible, I would like to know them. I don't want to speculate too much, but we certainly have the right to ask questions.

              You can tell Romney’s depressed. Last night he just sat on his couch and bought the Häagen-Dazs corporation ~ Jimmy Fallon

              by AuroraDawn on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 10:57:19 PM PDT

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              •  why do you think any Embassy security staff was (1+ / 0-)
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                anywhere else? The us military and private contractors I mean, not the Libyan police/security staff

                There was a protest and street was busy with angry people and it was sept 11, the Embassy would be at full alert, correct me if you know otherwise, please.

                Do we know if the Libyan security staff were pulled or distracted by the crowd?..because that would make a difference in Embassy protection...a tweet from (VineRat was it?) said the Libyan police/security staff had been taking photos...whatever that really means...

                if it can be shown that the host country Embassy security was compromised or failed, that would be important to know..

                This machine kills Fascists.

                by KenBee on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 12:52:32 AM PDT

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                  What part of my comment are you referring to?

                  I don't believe I suggested the security staff were "anywhere else". As far as I know, they were exactly where they were supposed to be.

                  I was responding to a discussion about whether or not it was a good idea, in general, to be using contractors. I was not suggesting that embassy security staff in Libya somehow failed to be where they were meant to be on 9/11.

                  You can tell Romney’s depressed. Last night he just sat on his couch and bought the Häagen-Dazs corporation ~ Jimmy Fallon

                  by AuroraDawn on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 01:00:12 AM PDT

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                  •  the whole thread was 'where were they?' (1+ / 0-)
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                    from shortgirl way up top, I was responding to the overall discussion...sorry to confuse..

                    Do we know how many armed Embassy staff there actually were? Not counting Libyan security
                      I have seen conflicting reports about that..

                    As to the Libyan security forces inside and in the street, I'm sure we'll know more from further investigations, but who and how many and where would be important...and who were the 19 that died...if I even have that number right..

                    This machine kills Fascists.

                    by KenBee on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 01:22:53 AM PDT

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                    •  No, I don't think there has been... (2+ / 0-)
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                      any reliable report discussing how many armed embassy staff were present.

                      and who were the 19 that died...if I even have that number right..
                      That's a question I would certainly like to know the answer to.  A man claiming to have been one of the guards gave an interesting account of the attack. Who knows how accurate it is, though.

                      From the Kansas City Star:

                      Libyan security guard who said he was at the U.S. consulate here when it was attacked Tuesday night has provided new evidence that the assault on the compound that left four Americans dead, including the U.S. ambassador to Libya, was a planned attack by armed Islamists and not the outgrowth of a protest over an online video that mocks Islam and its founder, the Prophet Muhammad.

                      The guard, interviewed Thursday in the hospital where he is being treated for five shrapnel wounds in one leg and two bullet wounds in the other, said that the consulate area was quiet – “there wasn’t a single ant outside,” he said – until about 9:35 p.m., when as many as 125 armed men descended on the compound from all directions.

                      The men lobbed grenades into the compound, wounding the guard and knocking him to the ground, then stormed through the facility’s main gate, shouting “God is great” and moving to one of the many villas that make up the consulate compound. He said there had been no warning that an attack was imminent.

                      “Wouldn’t you expect if there were protesters outside that the Americans would leave?” the guard said.

                      The guard, located by searching hospitals for people injured Tuesday night, said he was 27 years old but declined to give his name. He asked that the hospital where he is being treated not be identified for fear that militants would track him down and kill him. He said he was able to escape by telling one of the attackers that he was only a gardener at the compound. The attacker took him to the hospital, the guard said.

                      You can tell Romney’s depressed. Last night he just sat on his couch and bought the Häagen-Dazs corporation ~ Jimmy Fallon

                      by AuroraDawn on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 01:28:49 AM PDT

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                        and not party of the protest and 125 men..earlier reports had 20 vehicles, so at 5 per that could be right, I also saw I thought, a report that there were 20 attackers...so that's a lot of firepower..and the reports I read said eventually the attackers were driven off by Embassy security staff and guards.

                        Also a long part there about the responsibility for the attack,not mentioned was Al Queda or any direct affiliations.

                        and this

                        two American destroyers, the USS Laboon and the USS McFaul, were expected to take up positions by early next off the coast near Benghazi in what many here interpreted as preparations for a possible retaliatory attack. On Wednesday, President Barack Obama promised justice in the case.
                        is interesting...

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                        by KenBee on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 01:53:23 AM PDT

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          •  The two that I know of (2+ / 0-)
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            are dead as a result of that attack.


            The religious fanatics didn't buy the republican party because it was virtuous, they bought it because it was for sale

            by nupstateny on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 11:25:07 PM PDT

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      •  Security outside ff U.S. Embassies or consulate is (6+ / 0-)

        the responsibility of the host country. Do you expect us to have a marine base there?

        •  That is a very valid point... (3+ / 0-)
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          And Obama actually mentioned that yesterday when addressing Egypt's responsibility to protect our diplomats. I don't know why it slipped my mind. Thank you for reminding us all of that! And no, I for one, do NOT want us to build more military bases abroad.

          You can tell Romney’s depressed. Last night he just sat on his couch and bought the Häagen-Dazs corporation ~ Jimmy Fallon

          by AuroraDawn on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 11:01:30 PM PDT

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        •  I don't expect a marine base either but I do (2+ / 0-)
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          expect security. Considering the prominent date and the unrest, I expect more then two being on guard.

          "I came for the politics and stayed for the community" - h/t the fabulous earicicle

          by shortgirl on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 11:06:29 PM PDT

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            two guards were on duty inside the consulate? So much information has been coming out, it's hard to keep up. I know two men died, but I assumed that there were more on duty.

            You can tell Romney’s depressed. Last night he just sat on his couch and bought the Häagen-Dazs corporation ~ Jimmy Fallon

            by AuroraDawn on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 11:09:37 PM PDT

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              morning. I have alot of questions and I haven't had time to see if they have been answered.

              Thanks for the diary and all of the information.

              "I came for the politics and stayed for the community" - h/t the fabulous earicicle

              by shortgirl on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 11:16:47 PM PDT

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            •  No, we only know that (2+ / 0-)
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              two died.


              The religious fanatics didn't buy the republican party because it was virtuous, they bought it because it was for sale

              by nupstateny on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 11:33:31 PM PDT

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            •  I'm just waiting for the R's to start their (2+ / 0-)
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              hearings to "find out" who knew what and when.

              There are reports (as yet not verified) that the Libyan government gave notice that things were percolating. There have been attacks on the Red Cross and other diplomatic personal and buildings.

              If this is true, seem our guard was down and not enough security provided.

              BTW were there other people in the Consulate. If they were there, how did they escape?

              Progressives will win only when we convince a majority that they, too, are Progressive. And... It’s the Supreme Court, stupid!

              by auapplemac on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 01:51:49 AM PDT

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                was trying to save and evacuate embassy staff members. So, presumably, there were others present. Given that 4 deaths were reported, the others must have escaped. How did they escape? I don't know.

                From CBS:

                Heavily armed militants used a protest of an anti-Islam film as a cover and may have had help from inside Libyan security in their deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate, a senior Libyan official said Thursday.
                [...]

                Eastern Libya's deputy interior minister, Wanis el-Sharef, said Thursday a mob first stormed the consulate Tuesday night and then, hours later, raided a safe house in the compound just as U.S. and Libyan security arrived to evacuate the staff. That suggested, el-Sharef said, that infiltrators within the security forces may have tipped off the militants to the safe house's location.

                [...]

                One of five private security guards at the consulate said the surprise attack began when several grenades that were lobbed over the outer wall exploded in the compound and bullets rained down.

                The guard was wounded in the left leg from shrapnel. He said he was lying on the ground, bleeding and in excruciating pain when a bearded gunman came down the wall and shot him twice in the right leg, screaming: "You infidel, you are defending infidels!"

                There are so many different reports coming out, it's hard to keep everything straight.

                One report I read stated that the Ambassador was trying to lead people to the roof to escape. Another claimed he was trying to seek shelter in a safe room. I'm not sure anyone (at least in the media) really knows at this point precisely what happened from minute-to-minute during the attack.

                I'm really not looking forward to any faux investigations overseen by Republican Party officials.

                You can tell Romney’s depressed. Last night he just sat on his couch and bought the Häagen-Dazs corporation ~ Jimmy Fallon

                by AuroraDawn on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 02:10:54 AM PDT

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                •  There was no safe room according to CNN (3+ / 0-)
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                  reporter who was in the burnt out consulate. Saw her report on Fri.

                  Instead of a bullet proof, air tight room with communications the consulate only had bars on the windows and doors. No real safe place to take shelter.

                  Have to wonder why in a country like Libya with the recent attacks on other foreigners and the Red Cross that a more robust security system wasn't in place.

                  This is why I mentioned the possibility of hearings and bad press for both Obama and Clinton.

                  Progressives will win only when we convince a majority that they, too, are Progressive. And... It’s the Supreme Court, stupid!

                  by auapplemac on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 04:56:35 AM PDT

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    •  Two of the dead Americans are identified as (4+ / 0-)

      former navy SEALs now working for "private security" firm. That is said when media says their names in saying who died there. They were two of the guards for the Benghazi consulate. I haven't seen the name of the firm.

      I've read about five private security guards at the consulate in a couple of stories, don't know if that included the two that died.
      I heard that number in stories that quoted one who was injured. He was asked during the attack who he was and he told them he was a gardener, then passed out
      So that would be at least 3 there that night

      Here is one article that mentions it
      Were these 5 (or 7) the only additional security to whatever Libya provided?

      Their president has said that someone inside security must have revealed information because attackers came in knowing where safe areas were

      But who knows... stories abound.
      We will learn more as time goes on.

      As an aside it is hard to believe we save any money hiring these private contractors to do the job rather than our own military

    •  The host country is supposed to protect embassies (1+ / 0-)
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      and consulates. Part of international treaty or something like that.

      Also with recent history of attacks on foreign diplomates and the Red Cross, why weren't we more prepared?

      A reporter from CNN went in our burned out Libyan Consulate and there was no safe room with thick bullet proof walls, communications system, air tight, etc. There were only bars on the doors and windows.

      Progressives will win only when we convince a majority that they, too, are Progressive. And... It’s the Supreme Court, stupid!

      by auapplemac on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 01:42:43 AM PDT

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  •  Sorry, but "Onward Christian Soliders, Bush (3+ / 0-)
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    and company elevated mercenary forces for profit, BlackWater dude is a 'devout' evangela..ass

    Apparently the practice of outsourcing is so ingrained any president and congress will have a hard road dispelling them.

    Or, just do it, Mr. President. Use Marines instead!

    "Lets show the rascals what Citizens United really means."

    by smiley7 on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 10:38:16 PM PDT

    •  One of the men who died was a former... (8+ / 0-)

      Navy Seal.  So, it wasn't like they had mall cops on duty. This man was a well-trained individual.

      I'm no fan of Blackwater (the guy who runs it is crazy and corrupt), but I'm not going to speculate too much about the security until more details emerge.

       

      A former Navy SEAL from a Boston suburb was one of four Americans who died in the attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya Wednesday.

      Forty-two-year-old Glen Doherty was killed with U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens in Benghazi, a family friend told CBS Boston on Thursday.

      "He was on security detail and he was protecting the ambassador and also helping the wounded"' when he was killed, his sister, Katie Quigly told the Boston Globe

      You can tell Romney’s depressed. Last night he just sat on his couch and bought the Häagen-Dazs corporation ~ Jimmy Fallon

      by AuroraDawn on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 10:44:29 PM PDT

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      •  Glen Doherty was doing very important work (8+ / 0-)
        [Glen Doherty fought against religious zealots within the U.S. military and wound up dying at the hands of religious fanatics in Libya.

        Former Navy SEAL Glen Doherty, one of the four Americans killed Tuesday in the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, was an active member of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, an advocacy group that opposes religious proselytizing in the military.

        “He understood this was not a left or right issue, but a constitutional right and wrong issue,” group leader Mikey Weinstein said Thursday. “He believed nobody in the military should be forced to adhere to a certain religion.”

        Doherty, 42, joined the group after repeatedly getting the hard-sell from Christian fundamentalists, who are deeply entrenched in the SEALs and other elite military units like the Green Berets and Army Rangers, Weinstein said.

        He was trying to protect U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens when they were killed on the 11th anniversary of the Sept. 11 terror attack on the U.S.

        “I never thought he’d be another victim of 9/11,” his sister Katie Quigley told The Boston Globe.

        http://www.nydailynews.com/...

        The choice of our lifetime: Mitt Romney, It Takes A Pillage or President Barack Obama, Forward Together.

        by FiredUpInCA on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 11:07:13 PM PDT

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  •  This is exactly what Maddow said (5+ / 0-)

    on Wednesday, that it was a well planned attack and incidentally planned for September 11th.  They were able to pull it off without a hitch in part because of the rioting.

    The rioting is because of the film.


    The religious fanatics didn't buy the republican party because it was virtuous, they bought it because it was for sale

    by nupstateny on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 11:22:02 PM PDT

    •  Yes, but this is the first time that... (4+ / 0-)
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      those in power have officially confirmed that belief. The news isn't that it was pre-planned, I think we all suspected that. The news is that Libya's President is admitting to it. Not long ago members of the Libyan Govt. were suggesting ex-Gaddafi allies were responsible. In this interview the Libyan President strongly refutes that claim.

      As for Maddow, Rachel always was ahead of the curve. Even during her Air America days. She's fantastic.

      You can tell Romney’s depressed. Last night he just sat on his couch and bought the Häagen-Dazs corporation ~ Jimmy Fallon

      by AuroraDawn on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 11:29:38 PM PDT

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      They were able to pull it off without a hitch in part because of the rioting.
      well, we probably can't until we have detailed maps and positioning from an investigation.

      Was the security distracted to one position by the riots and the military attack came from another, in coordination and/or in recognition of the vulnerability?

      I just can't see thew advantage to plan and coordinate a riot, ( and be vulnerable to leaks) get all security  (Foreign, domestic, and contractor)(and local police) riled up, then drive up and then start shooting.

      Seriously does NOT make sense unless someone can show how the riot caused such a diversion that there was a vulnerability to exploit...and possible, very possible.

      I think we may want or expect  to create a link between the movie, the riot, the attack,  and Romney and none may exist. my opinion..

      And in the reports the gunmen started attacking right away with RPGs and machine gun fire, lots of it...any security forces, riot or not would then be very alert and responsive at that moment..so what's the crowd helping?
        Were they used as human shields for the brief moment the staff may have tried to return fire? Haven't seen any reports about that, the reports all concentrate on the shooting and fires and the crowds weren't mentioned again.
        Any defensive return fire, if your head is even up and looking for the target would see the muzzle flashes, any crowds are gone instantly, so unless tied there they were not human shields even for the tiny fraction of time it took for them to retreat from the shooting.

      Reports were that the shooters targeted the safe rooms that embassy staff would have retreated to asap..crowd had nothing to do with that.

      And didn't 19 Libyans die as well..were they civilian  crowd or security/police defending the Embassy?

      And shouldn't those Libyans who died doing so also be known and honored?

      This machine kills Fascists.

      by KenBee on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 01:13:42 AM PDT

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    •  no riot (2+ / 0-)
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      according to the Kansas paper AuroraDawn linked to below..(.thus no movie, no Romney or TheJewsDidIt ™ link)
        ....and no Al Queda despite a newspaper assertion somewhere that had Aq#2 ordering the raid.
      what the truth is at this point: there is disinformation, or poor reporting, or poor reading (me)

      geez...

      and just noticed Clay Claiborne has a recommended diary Many Libyans died defending US Embassy

      This machine kills Fascists.

      by KenBee on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 02:00:42 AM PDT

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        really "know" anything of importance regarding what happened, and who did it (apart from the perpetrators), are the people who aren't talking - and can't talk yet. Obviously, Obama and the investigators can't discuss an ongoing investigation, except in vague terms.

        I imagine we'll be hearing all sorts of stories while the dust settles, and people begin to separate truth from rumor and speculation. We'll probably start to have a clearer picture of what took place in the weeks to come.

        Let's just hope the Cons don't try to turn this into another Fast 'n Furious investigation farce.

        You can tell Romney’s depressed. Last night he just sat on his couch and bought the Häagen-Dazs corporation ~ Jimmy Fallon

        by AuroraDawn on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 02:20:51 AM PDT

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        •  add ths to the mix..guardian (2+ / 0-)
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          guardian article from link in Clay's diary comments from CentralMass

          now it's' rioters everywhere', two locations, 400 attackers..and towards the ends a more nuanced discussion of

          Benghazi has suffered from activities blamed on jihadists for several months, and anger is directed equally at the protagonists and at a government seen as unwilling to stand up to them.
          ..so there's politics involved
          The Islamist Ansar al-Sharia brigade is blamed by many here for the violence...
          and
          "They [Sharia] have pros and cons," said Saleh el-Fellah, who works in Benghazi's Friendship Cafe. "They were the ones who provided security [in the revolution]. The cons are all the bad things they have been doing. They take everything to extremes, they are ruining the reputation of Islam."
          several agendas noted, the president's, the Sharias, the landlords of the two locations attacked.. and the Libyan security person wounded quoted in the Kansas paper

          This machine kills Fascists.

          by KenBee on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 02:35:35 AM PDT

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          •  Very interesting article... (2+ / 0-)
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            thank you for the link!

            "Better security would not have stopped this," said Adel Ibrahim, the owner of the accommodation building where blood is now spattered beneath a hole smashed in a wall by a heavy projectile. "A security unit is fine if you are facing 10 persons, but there were 400 attackers. [The Americans] would have needed an army to stop them."

            [...]

            It is clear the US staff and their Libyan guards were subjected to a terrifying, night-long ordeal, which began with protests outside the consulate in the al-Fawahat residential district. Demonstrators gathered in the narrow Venice Street outside the main gated entrance, voicing protests against the reported release in the US of a film that ridiculed Islam.

            The protest quickly turned violent, the landlords said. Who fired first is a matter of dispute, with some claiming the Libyan security guards hired by the Americans shot in the air, panicking the crowd.

            There is no doubt about what happened next. The compound is bound by a breeze-block wall topped by barbed wire, but it was not enough to stop the attackers. "They jumped in from everywhere," said Ahmed Busheri, owner of the consulate.

            Which account is accurate? It's hard to say.

            You can tell Romney’s depressed. Last night he just sat on his couch and bought the Häagen-Dazs corporation ~ Jimmy Fallon

            by AuroraDawn on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 02:45:24 AM PDT

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  •  We are all dumber from having heard Libya's (2+ / 0-)
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    president play Sherlock Holmes. Hopefully the FBI and Marines along with Libya's actual police detectives aren't the ones feeding the Libyan prez his brilliant theories.

    If you take into account the weapons used, like RPGs and other heavy weapons, it proves that it was pre-planned.
    Just because nuts in the US have heavy artillery doesn't mean they're super-villain geniuses. And we're talking Libya, a country that just liberated itself with RPG's used by Hank from down the block.

    And really?

    but if the killers where from the former regime, and they had the ability to execute such attacks, they would have chosen another date.
    They chose the day because the mob was rioting... on 911. If  you want to screw with the US and the regime the US allowed to take out your boss, 911 ain't a bad choice.
  •  Re the list of cities where protests are happening (1+ / 0-)
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    One of the real problems I see in how this story is being treated in our media, and here, is the tendency to fold all of the protests into a single interpretive framework. The protests outside of U.S. facilities in individual countries share some similarities but there are also significant differences, particularly in the composition of the protesters and the specific "interests" that drew the protesters out. The film is, in many ways, an excuse for the expression of many other complaints. Not recognizing these divergent interests is a mistake, and leads to sloppy analysis.

    Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time. (Terry Pratchett)

    by angry marmot on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 06:18:40 AM PDT

    •  IA with that.... (1+ / 0-)
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      The film is, in many ways, an excuse for the expression of many other complaints. Not recognizing these divergent interests is a mistake, and leads to sloppy analysis.
      Shortgirl and another person asked where the protests were currently taking place, however, so I posted the latest list.

      You can tell Romney’s depressed. Last night he just sat on his couch and bought the Häagen-Dazs corporation ~ Jimmy Fallon

      by AuroraDawn on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 10:13:46 AM PDT

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  •  Al-Magariaf's hospital visit to Libyan troops.... (0+ / 0-)

    a nice touch

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