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I wrote and published on my blog the following letter out of sheer desperation, and frustration watching the GOP primaries unfold way back in February 2012.  
We obviously still have not made any headway into having a serious, civil national dialogue about the state of the nation since then, with even more Americans retreating to information and blog sites that cater to their point of view, which does not make new ideas and ways of thinking about things possible.  Anyway, I felt like sharing with like minded friends here, even if I change no minds.

Dear Senior voter,

Many Americans a mite younger than you have always looked to your example when making important decisions, like choosing a president.  As someone who spent a good portion of her youth working in nursing homes, caring for the elderly, I know for a fact that older Americans are a veritable treasure trove of knowledge and history.  So will you please stop losing your damn minds over the same stale, old, wedge issues trotted out at election time: abortion, contraception and gay marriage!  Get your news and information from more than one source and medium, you should not believe everything a radio or television talk show hosts presents as fact for Decision 2012.  Please pay more attention to the more immediate concerns such as strengthening the economy, addressing our crumbling infrastructure, and reducing the bloated national debt with good common sense, so we can still care for those who need help most.  Do you remember a time when the roads, highways and bridges were in good working repair?  Public works created valuable economic programs enacted in the New Deal that saved and lifted millions from a depression.  Relief, Recovery, and Reform did not kill jobs and business back then and it won't do so now.  Think, and remember!  Shouldn't we have an effective policy like that in our latest hour of need?

Your age group has seen the ebb and flow of politics throughout your lives, and how it affects the country for good or ill.  Some seniors still remember the Red Scare, what it was like to live in the United States during the McCarthy hearings.  Some of you experienced totalitarianism and extremism in far away lands, and have since had the good sense to become a US citizen.  You know firsthand how well fear and misinformation can be used for political gain.  You have seen fiery political rhetoric prod the masses into supporting actions, laws and wars that would come to be reviled as immoral in the history books.  Social change is painful, but change with the world, we must.  This country needs your best, it needs our seniors to participate in this democracy with an aim of improving the country for everyone, and that includes ensuring healthy Democratic and Republican parties.  We beg you, as your children and grandchildren, give us the benefit of your wisdom and life experience in relation to today's problems.  Instead of mouthing the tired old church-speak and stale racially coded accusations the GOP has been spouting to discredit President Barack Obama, show the nation that courage and quality quick thinking that helped the United States survive past times of hardship.  Dear Senior Citizen, I am not telling you who to cast your vote for, I am just asking you to please consider deeply before you do.

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  •  Tip Jar (3+ / 0-)

    If you like it, put your face in it.

    by LiveNudePolitics on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 11:38:15 AM PDT

  •  Stop shaking your fist at old people... (5+ / 0-)

    and yelling at them.  

    This post is abusive in my opinion.

    •  I meant no disrespect, (1+ / 0-)
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      YoungArizonaLiberal

      in fact, I debate the state of politics with my male, Republican favoring friends throughout my work day.  That's where I hear about whatever is happening on Fox News first.
      I also have many delightful conversations with like minded senior Democrats and Liberals (mostly female).  

      But, sadly the majority of my senior acquaintances (I'm talking hundreds) are Republicans, and the things some of them say are blood curdling, in regard to how they feel about the president.

      I just wanted to inspire discourse, obviously I fell short of the mark.

      If you like it, put your face in it.

      by LiveNudePolitics on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 01:05:05 PM PDT

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  •  Hmmmm ... (8+ / 0-)

    I'm a senior and a good church lady and more liberal than my children and I have voted every time. So I must admit that I do not understand your letter.  Have you read this diary on the rec list: If This Doesn't Move You, I Don't Know What Will, Or Why This Election is Important by Liberal Granny?  (I will admit to being old and thus not really tech savy so I don't know how to link.)

    From where I sit, I sometimes ask myself (even out loud at times) why some young people I know can be so ignorant and inactive politically, why they don't listen to what I say and dismiss me as their hippy dippy aunt ... but maybe it is just perspective. Then, of course, you have the problem of venue, this might not be the right forum to address conservative seasoned voter since most of us tend to be a little to the left.  LOL

    Maybe we just need to understand that neither one of us can make generalizations based only on age or color or gender. There are hard working politically activer seniors and youngsters and middle aged sandwich generation. So lets ALL get to work to elect the folks who will listen to us and not to the 1%.

    "Life without liberty is like a body without spirit. Liberty without thought is like a disturbed spirit." Kahlil Gibran, 'The Vision'

    by CorinaR on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 12:13:02 PM PDT

    •  Thanks for the tip (0+ / 0-)

      Generalizations are fraught with danger.  I shall remember that.  But don't you agree the senior voter has the edge on someone younger just by what they have seen?  I mean, When I read Susan Jacoby, I am just blown away.

      And I will check out If This Doesn't Move You, I Don't Know What Will, Or Why This Election is Important by Liberal Granny

      If you like it, put your face in it.

      by LiveNudePolitics on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 01:10:30 PM PDT

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      •  The informed voter has the edge (2+ / 0-)
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        LiveNudePolitics, Cinnamon

        no matter what the age. I know too many that do what their spouse, parent, child or preacher tells them and too many that do what they always do out of habit.  So saying informed and thinking is the smart thing to do.  As  Rick Santorum reminds us, the conservatives will "Never Have The Elite, Smart People On Our Side"   ( http://www.buzzfeed.com/... ).

        I don't know Susan Jacoby.

        "Life without liberty is like a body without spirit. Liberty without thought is like a disturbed spirit." Kahlil Gibran, 'The Vision'

        by CorinaR on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 01:34:16 PM PDT

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        •  Susan Jacoby is awesome! (0+ / 0-)

          I admire her so much.  You may have read her weekly column, "The Spirited Atheist,"  at the On Faith website published by The Washington Post.
          She's been reporting and writing for over 25 years, here's a link to her website:  Susan Jacoby: A Voice of Reason

          I love her recent books, which I bought after seeing her on some Panels on MSNBC.  She's amazing, honest, and fearless in her writing.  And she ain't no chippie, she's what I dream of growing into: strong, smart, and always curious.

          If you like it, put your face in it.

          by LiveNudePolitics on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 01:59:25 PM PDT

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      •  The generalization that counts (1+ / 0-)
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        is that "senior" voters will soon be all Baby Boomers.  Boomers are, and have been, split 50/50 on most everything for 50 years.

        It will not matter what you say or how you say it, they will cancel themselves out.

        Nobody has been able to talk sense to the bunch ahead of the Boomers.  They hired Hell's Angels as security guards.  They were the Silent Majority who elected Reagan and Nixon.  Talk all you want; they aren't listening.

        Don't trust anyone over 30!

        People who speak up ALWAYS ruffle feathers.  Do not respond to concern/tone trolls.

        -6.12 -4.87 I don’t need insurance I need health care. You have sick people and doctors. Any third parties looking to profit from disease should go to hell. (Stolen from a comment somewhere on the Internet.)

        by jestbill on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 06:43:38 PM PDT

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  •  I agree with the other commenters. (4+ / 0-)

    Your tone is abusive and your message is off base on this site. If you're really interested in what an old person thinks, I think you'd be wise to delete this diary. Perhaps it would be helpful in another venue.

    Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

    by HappyinNM on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 12:20:27 PM PDT

    •  I appreciate the feedback (1+ / 0-)
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      YoungArizonaLiberal

      Problem is, the conservative sites don't encourage discussion outside accepted parameters.  And they have much sway with the senior demographic.
      I'm new to Daily Kos as far as Diaries go, been reading and sharing the gems I find here for years.  I am so gobsmacked by the fact I made other Kossacks upset.  Absolutely not my intention.

      If you like it, put your face in it.

      by LiveNudePolitics on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 01:16:10 PM PDT

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  •  I'm an old person (6+ / 0-)

    and I'm offended.  Most of the hard line GOPrs I have to deal with are middle aged white males.   I also remember that most of the protesters in the Wisconsin uprising were my age because others were at work.  The majority of folks getting arrested at the State Capitol in Madison for singing or carrying signs are also my age.

    Stop the divide and conquer strategy of blaming one group of people for this problem or that problem - that's what we have Republicans for.

    There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

    by Puddytat on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 12:38:36 PM PDT

    •  Again, offense was not my intention. (1+ / 0-)
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      YoungArizonaLiberal

      Even the seniors I disagree with in daily life, I consult with on so many things I am curious about.  Because I know they know more than I do.  I tried to appeal to that knowledge of history, and memory of new policies enacted and the results that occurred.  

      I wrote and published on my blog the following letter out of sheer desperation, and frustration watching the GOP primaries unfold way back in February 2012.  
      We obviously still have not made any headway into having a serious, civil national dialogue about the state of the nation since then, with even more Americans retreating to information and blog sites that cater to their point of view, which does not make new ideas and ways of thinking about things possible.  Anyway, I felt like sharing with like minded friends here, even if I change no minds.
      By 'like minded friends', I want you to know there is not age requirement or cutoff on that, I assumed the reader would infer I meant Democrat.  Asinine of me!  Apologies.  Can we at least agree that the senior vote has enormous power?   And that seniors have a goldmine of life experience that is largely untapped?  

      They have the capacity to change and influence law and policy, when they flex those electoral muscles.  I am sorry that my letter came off as anything but a plea: for reason, logic and help in this crazy election.

      If you like it, put your face in it.

      by LiveNudePolitics on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 01:30:58 PM PDT

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  •  I've worked in a Senior Center, too (5+ / 0-)

    And let me tell ya, this would have gone over like a lead balloon in our newsletter... and I was responsible for about 1/3 of the (20 pages printed) monthly content.  

    The tone is incredibly disrespectful and condescending to the intended audience, and some of your phrases seem to be chosen to deliberately insult older adults' intelligence.

    I would also point out that if you were looking for, as you say "like minded friends here" by publishing a letter that you wrote back in February "out of sheer desperation and frustration".. you really should have given it a re-read with a calmer, cooler head. Even if you can't see the ageist stereotyping in you own words, then at least you should have considered that all the people here on Daily Kos ARE a sub group of HIGHLY politically-aware and engaged individuals, no matter what their ages may be.

    Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. ~ Yoda Political Compass: -8.50, -6.46

    by Cinnamon on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 01:01:31 PM PDT

  •  Hate to tell you this but...This won't end well (0+ / 0-)

    I've been stoned to death here for telling jokes about Republicans who happen to be older and overwhelmingly support Romney/Ryan.

    Here's what you should do:
    1. Post the polling data illustrating the age group breakdown of Obama vs. Romney
    2. Post the Medicare Opinion Poll of Obama vs. Ryan Plan
    3. I think the AARP has some good articles geared towards retirees. Non-partisan facts about Obama's Plan
    4.

    And Finally:

    As someone who spent a good portion of her youth working in nursing homes, caring for the elderly, I know for a fact that older Americans are a veritable treasure trove of knowledge and history.  So will you please stop losing your damn minds over the same stale, old, wedge issues trotted out at election time: abortion, contraception and gay marriage!
    I volunteer at a Hospice in Tucson. I have done so since I was 16 and you have no idea how many have told me that they want to stay alive long enough to get the "Nigger" out of the White House. BTW, they are saying this to me, an African American Female.  But one thing I've learned is that they don't like being "talked down to" whatever that means.

    Tread softly buddy and good luck!

    Romney = Nixon without the sweating problem

    by YoungArizonaLiberal on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 03:34:40 PM PDT

  •  I am old (2+ / 0-)
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    jestbill, hilltopper

    That's how I remember this:

    John Stuart Mill famously wrote to John Pakington:

        I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.

    Mill, 1806 to 1873

    "If I pay a man enough money to buy my car, he'll buy my car." Henry Ford

    by johnmorris on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 05:54:35 PM PDT

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