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Today'€™s anti-capitalist meet-up is a discussion of three news-stories in three different countries whose purpose is to serve as an illustration of the different types of working class struggles we are seeing. In many senses, they illustrate exactly where different countries are in the struggle for change and how important is the term "€œunite and fight."€

The first two stories came out on Wednesday, 12th of September. They left me angry and despairing; this was compounded by the BBC abandoning discussion of these two stories on Friday for a whole day of a fit of pique about the Duchess of Cambridge'€™s (Kate, William'€™s wife) breasts being displayed in a French magazine as though that story was of any import following what major stories had preceded it. I honestly do not want to discuss this at all, but the concentration of the BBC television news on the exposure of the royal teats story nearly made me weep in frustration.  Perhaps if they spent one-twentieth of the time on this story and others like it, further information about the corruption in the capitalist system leading to the deaths of working people in Pakistan could have been reported on the television or the exposure of the perfidy of the police in South Yorkshire would not have had to wait 23 years.

Cross-posted at VOTS

1.    Karachi, Pakistan

The deaths of at least 264 people in Karachi at the Ali Enterprise Factory (and 25 in a shoe factory in Lahore) due to two factory fires in unsafe working conditions brought to my mind the pictures of the aftermath of the Triangle shirtwaist factory in NYC in March 1911. There are some pictures that never leave your memory, no matter how hard you try to erase them, this is one that came to my mind:
With windows barred and fire doors locked, people leapt to their deaths from the rooftops.  The vast majority of those that died did due to suffocation because they were trapped in the basement of the factory. According to the Labour Start campaign, to make the situation worse in terms of identification of the dead, the factory was illegally established, the workers did not have contracts to sign and hence records of who was at work that day are lacking; some people were actually there only to pick up their pay and hence even if records were there, they wouldn't be listed necessarily for that day.  Finally, identification of badly burned bodies is difficult; as of the 13th, 100 bodies still needed to be identified at the various morgues in hospital in the city ( Adding to the problem was the fire services running out of water during the attempt to put the fire out, delay in bringing the Navy fire brigades in and the lack of aerial water spraying.

The working conditions in these factories were openly known (, and the BBC in its reportage kept asking the question of why won’t the government act?

"In this case the factory was a recipe for tragedy - its low-ceiling halls were crammed with machines manned by workers toiling away in sweat shop conditions to produce top-of-the-line, ready-to-wear garments which earned the factory owners millions of dollars annually.

The workers, on the other hand, go home with $5 to $6 a day. There are no other benefits ("

I have an answer to the inane question repeatedly asked by the BBC. A cheap labour force in a country with many desperate people whose rights are unprotected draws and maintains the most repulsive exploitation; dangerous working conditions are cheap, health and safety of workers cost money. The fact that capitalists can get away with treating workers as cheap labour, keeps costs down. One of the survivors was saying "€œthey cared more about their merchandise than for their workers." Of course they do, workers are cheap and easily replaceable, and merchandise has a value to these people.
"€œThe garments industry is critical to Pakistan's frail economy. According to central bank data, it provided 7.4% of Pakistan's GDP in 2011 and employed 38% of the manufacturing sector workforce, accounting for 55.6% of total exports ("€
The government had not acted and probably will not act to enforce even existing health and safety legislation for working class people unless working people force them to do so. In the aftermath of the Triangle shirtwaist factory fire, strikes, lists of the names of the dead, demonstrations and a mass funeral forced them to act. This was not only the trial of the owners and managers of the factory; this was the passage of legislation protecting all workers and the serious enforcement of this legislation.

A warrant for murder has already been issued in Pakistan for the owners of the factory and they already have already been bailed. Unsurprisingly, they maintain that they are not responsible for the fire and insist that they have the requisite safety certificates while denying that the doors were locked ( I guess the windows were not barred either and that there were fire doors also. There is safety legislation in Pakistan for factories, but enforcement is lax both due to corruption and lack of interest. In the absence of mass response to this atrocity, it is doubtful that the government will move, the interests of the upper classes are always protected. For workers to get not only justice but change, a mass movement to force a government to put through reforms is essential.
The Pakistani trade union movement has posted an action which they hope will put additional pressure on the government, please sign it and support your fellow workers. The demands are listed below and the link for the action below that; international solidarity is essential to fight for the rights of all workers:

"€œIndustriALL Global Union joins with unions in Pakistan to demand the government pay compensation of five million rupees (53,000 USD) to the families of the workers who were killed, and two million rupees (21,000 USD) to injured workers and that the workers continue to receive their salary.

Unions are also demanding the government arrest the employer and charge him with murder and take action against the labour department and government authorities that failed to ensure the safety and health of these workers."

Take action: International Labour Campaign

2. Hillsborough Disaster

The deaths of 96 Liverpool football fans in Sheffield's Hillsborough Stadium (many of them teenagers) at a semi-final FA cup match between Liverpool Football Club and Nottingham Forest in 1989, has 23 years later been declared to not be the fault of Liverpool fans according to the Hillsborough Independent Panel Report (for details of the disaster itself, please see: Hillsborough Disaster). The fact that 41 of the 96 dead could have been saved if proper rescue had been conducted was especially horrifying; in the initial inquest all the dead were treated as though they had all died at 3:15. The police lied and edited testimony to present their version of the events shifting blame onto the victims and this cover-up was supported by politicians at the time. It has since come out that the lies of the police were known for 14 years ( Yet, irrespective of the fact that the police version was known to be lacking in veracity, the initial inquest verdict placing responsibility for the deaths upon the victims and survivors of the disaster held for 23 years. The New Labour politicians passed the hot potato again and left the earlier inquests results standing.

Essentially what was found was what the families of the victims and the survivors had known all along:

"In its report, the panel said it uncovered new evidence detailing crowd safety deficiencies at the ground, shortcomings in the emergency services response, failures of leadership and co-ordination and widespread alteration of police statements in an attempt to blame the Liverpool fans for what happened ("
From a horrible disaster (, the story descended almost immediately into a cover-up by police officers to hide their failures and to minimise the safety problems in an old stadium. An excellent piece has been published by Twigg about Hillsborough and the apologies tendered by the Prime Minister and opposition for what happened.

I want to emphasise an aspect of the case beyond the appalling police cover-up and the collaboration by the Prime Minister and politicians of the time. One of the main points from my perspective was the deliberate denigration of working class and poor people. While Mike Mansfield QC (the lawyer for some of the 90 miners arrested in Orgreave clashes in 1984-5 all of whom were acquitted as testimony by the South Yorkshire police was deemed suspect, this happened 5 years before Hillsborough; and earlier Jack Straw raised the point that Thatcher needed the police on her side to deal with the miners’ strike and other industrial struggles of the time ( and hence she didn'€™t challenge a seriously dubious account of the incident by the police which led to a "€œculture of impunity"; it is questionable whether this culture of impunity still does not hold.
However, while the Independent Policy Complaints Commission (IPCC) has stronger powers in terms of investigation into police corruption and misconduct, rarely are the police actually tried for their actions by the Crown Prosecution Service and when they are, rarely are they imprisoned. This is especially the case with working class people and disproportionally those working class people of colour (; for more stats of those who died in police custody and the ethnic and racial breakdown, see: The latest case is that of Simon Harwood the policeman that, without provocation, assaulted newspaper vendor Ian Tomlinson as he walked passed an anti-G20 demonstration. Mr. Tomlinson who was weak after a history of illness and alcoholism collapsed and died on the street soon after the assault. Despite video evidence, the evidence of eyewitnesses and a history of complaints made against him by civilians, Mr. Harwood was declared not guilty of manslaughter ( He is facing an internal police investigation for his conduct; hopefully, he will never be allowed to work as a policeman again. A case that has been recently announced is the trial of two police officers for misconduct in public office when Colin Holt (a mentally ill man) died from positional asphyxia due to being restrained improperly in August 2010; note that the charge is not manslaughter ( So the impunity of police is not a historical curiosity and it should not be treated as such.

Mr. Straw also didn't raise the other point that is still pertinent today in the UK, most probably as he also accepts the view of the working class and poor as chavs, yobs, drunks, and lazy (This can be seen in his letters on the earlier investigation of 14 years ago, see In fact, Hillsborough in many senses provided justification for the attack on working class people and fed into a meme about them which was very convenient for the Conservative government of the time.

However, it did not end there as the denigration of working people and their culture is literally a constant in the UK today. A cursory examination of the justifications for the testing of those on disability benefits (begun under New Labour for new applicants and now being generalised to all those already on disability benefit and allowance), the so-called benefit culture, the idea of the poor being lazy and drunk and not wanting to work (as opposed to the reality that there are simply no jobs) is an extension of the degradation of the victims and survivors of the Hillsborough disaster.
Rather than the truth of fans from both sides trying to help the wounded and dying, accusations of drunkenness, lies that people did not have tickets and charged the gate to the stadium (instead the gate was opened by the police), the official story (see the cover of Rupert Murdoch's The Sun above) deriving from a fabrication between the Sheffield Hallam MP and the Chief of Police became a classic case of blame the victim and cover the police for their grotesque failings. Accusations of theft from the dead and Liverpool fans pissing on the valiant police who were trying to save people fed into the perspective of the media and the government impugning working class values and people.
The success and acceptance of this portrayal of working class and poor people was part of the arsenal utilised under Thatcher and enabled the continuation of Thatcherite policy under New Labour. Moreover, the perception created by the ruling class still justifies the current attack on the social welfare state and the rights of the working class and poor of the current government.

It was only the determination and perseverance of the families of the victims and the survivors that enabled the creation of the independent report which has demonstrated conclusively the police cover-up that hid the truth and impugned the character of those present at the stadium that day and through that the people of Liverpool. It took 23 years to simply do an independent review. The families are demanding that the initial inquest report be overturned and a new one ordered. They are demanding prosecutions as well. This is a victory for working class people against a powerful and smug upper classes attempt to redefine reality to suit a political agenda.

The South Yorkshire police department has referred itself to the IPCC ( Since the charges will be police corruption, destruction and manipulation of evidence and given the outcry and vindication of the victims and survivors and their families and apologies from the police and the former editor of The Sun for its reporting of the disaster ( and even Boris Johnson has deigned to apologise for an article in The Spectator under his editorship referring to drunken fans and Hillsborough ( it is highly probable that they will get a new inquest.
There will be an IPCC investigation, but whether or not charges will be filed and a successful prosecution is another story. But what this case has shown is that perhaps justice can be won if people simply keep fighting and refuse to give up.

3. Caracas, Venezuela (h/t to Justina Justice)

Not wanting to leave people as frustrated as I felt on Wednesday when the above stories broke, I wanted to raise something that brought me out of my gloom and gave me a bit of hope. We always talk in this series of the importance of working class self-organisation and we have also addressed the importance of women’s self-organisation. So while the above two stories mirror the situation in the capitalist periphery and in the advanced capitalist world, we have an altogether different story in this part.

On September 14th, women'€™s rights groups presented a proposal to President Hugo Chavez to be considered for incorporation into government plans ( The proposal derives out of a series of meetings between women’s groups that worked on it for over a year towards the purpose of achieving gender equality in Venezuela.

"The list of proposals handed over to the president include; the free distribution of contraceptives for men and women, education in state schools to increase awareness surrounding gender equality, the creation of communal council based refuges for women who are victims of domestic violence, an increase in communal projects to care for children and the "socialization" of domestic labour to allow women to participate fully in political activities. The women also demanded more state regulation over the usage of women's bodies as "œmerchandise" in the media ("
This is an excellent example of grass-roots democracy and self-organisation which attempts to address the needs of the majority of women and not only the privileged few. The participation of women's groups and women from peasant organisations in developing this proposal not only provided a possibility of addressing issues important to working class, peasant and poor women, the fact that the president of the country came to listen and work towards women's equality as an essential component of building socialism is only something that we dream of in many countries.

If only the same thing could hold or be done with respect to the discussion of women'€™s rights in the US! Decisions on a national level primarily affecting women like access to contraceptives, health care and terminations are made by a small group in Congress, predominately men representing the interests of the religious right. Top-down decisions by a tiny minority offer nothing but continued oppression and by no means can be spoken of as democracy. A reminder that change, both reform and revolutionary, can only happen when we come together and fight for it!

Originally posted to Anti-Capitalist Meetup on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 03:00 PM PDT.

Also republished by In Support of Labor and Unions and Global Expats.

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  •  Tip Jar (26+ / 0-)

    "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

    by NY brit expat on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 03:00:07 PM PDT

  •  So sad (9+ / 0-)

    Under such conditions, the intrinsic value of a human being is destroyed and human beings are reduced to being cogs in an industrial machine. Their value is only the output they can generate hence, equal to the value of a cow that exists simply to produce milk in a farm, or a horse that exists to help plough that farm.

    Their life is disposable, unimportant. Their output does not meet their basic needs, but simply increases the wealth of their employer.

    •  Agreed Shawn Russell, it is like human (7+ / 0-)

      beings are reduced to disposable inputs to production, easily replaceable with no serious intrinsic value. I am still waiting for the list of names, sex and age of the dead. I really hope that these have been released in Pakistan; humanisation of the victims is essential, it reminds people that these are not numbers, not inputs, but human beings whose lives were destroyed due to corruption, negligence and the search for profits.

      Was the story covered in the states? It did get coverage on the first day, but was overshadowed by the Hillsborough report which came out later as though the BBC thinks that only one atrocity concerning working class people can be highlighted per day on the air. They covered it on the internet site, but it completely disappeared with the story on Kate's breasts. Yeah, I am a wee bit angry!

      "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

      by NY brit expat on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 03:20:02 PM PDT

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      •  Having read Charles Eisenstein's... (4+ / 0-)

        "The Ascent of Humanity" I think it may been denying the cow as an individual and seeing it as a cog in the machine that lead to our downfall. It is only a small step from there to see humans the same way.

        I am sorry I can not answer your question, NYB, I stopped watching corporate news a long time ago.

        De air is de air. What can be done?

        by TPau on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 05:16:50 PM PDT

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        •  I think that is a very good point TPau (1+ / 0-)
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          re seeing the cow as a cog in the machine and the shift from seeing humans in the same way. That is an excellent point, dang, my book list just keeps on growing ...

          "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

          by NY brit expat on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 05:38:59 AM PDT

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  •  Diary Schedule (3+ / 0-)
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    next Sunday, Kibbutz Amiad will discuss the Chicago Teacher's Strike

    We still need volunteers for:

    September 30th:

    October 7th:
    October 14th:
    October 21st:
    October 28th:

    November 4th:
    November 11th:
    November 18th:
    November 25th:

    etc, etc. Please let me know here if you can do one of these dates! Thanks!! Or send a message to me, Justina, or Tpau to let us know. Alternatively, send a message to our group email:

    "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

    by NY brit expat on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 03:25:23 PM PDT

  •  We seem to be living history all over again only (7+ / 0-)

    worse.  Not only did the first article remind me of the  Triangle shirtwaist fire, but the second article reminded me of a concert a few years ago in which a number of the people in the crowd were killed when they stampeded the doors trying to get out.  Again, much of the discussion blamed the concert goers and not the insufficient planning when the concert planners wanted to make maximum profit with minimum expense --overcrowding, inadequate safety and security, exit plans, etc.

    The main difference for the Pakistani workers, unfortunately, si that Capitali is much more mobile now and efforts to organize in any one country usually means, the business just picks up and moves to a cheaper or less hostile environment to labor.  Sigh.

    Caracas just kee[s moving to help people get their rights, even when finances are tight.  It's a beautiful example of what can be done even when object conditions are not very good economically.

    •  I feel at times that we are reliving (6+ / 0-)

      the same things over and over again; it keeps on reminding me that we need to be constantly vigilant.

      Agreed completely Geminijen on both things, but the mobility of capital is just the excuse as usual ... there are formally fire safety laws in Pakistan, but the importance of the industry, the power of capital, and corruption means that enforcement is essentially non-existent. Forcing compliance raises the costs for capitalists and there is the usual threat that they will pick up and leave, but if workers fight and demand this everywhere, the capitalists will have to cope with the tiny costs to cover their workers. This is clearly a case where we all stand together or we will all lose.

      Hoping that everyone who has read this has signed the petition to the Pakistani Prime Minister, international solidarity is essential to keep on fighting for safe and healthy working conditions for all!

      "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

      by NY brit expat on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 03:53:26 PM PDT

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      •  It's the demand this everywhere that's the problem (2+ / 0-)
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        This is very hard to coordinate. We're talking global revolution.

        •  Every step of the way, workers in the vast (2+ / 0-)
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          majority of countries in the periphery are demanding this, it is our job to support them. Capitalists use the same line all the time, they have been threatening and threatening to move their capital; this is a reform that workers in all countries demand ... there is at this point only a few places that they can run.

          International trade unions, international left, we need to get at least these basic reforms in to protect all workers; reforms and protections in the advanced capitalist world are being undermined on the mobility argument, those in the emergent economies and periphery are constantly threeatened with the same argument. Unity against them is something that is essential to build not only for reforms and protection of all workers, but to get rid of the damn system that is killing us and this planet...

          "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

          by NY brit expat on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 05:04:09 PM PDT

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      •  You mean the more things change, the more they (1+ / 0-)
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        stay the same?

        "The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out”. - George Carlin

        by Funkygal on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 05:42:36 PM PDT

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  •  always enjoy your work. (2+ / 0-)
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    I'm glad Barack Obama is our President.

    by TomP on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 04:53:29 PM PDT

    •  thanks tomp! always appreciate that (1+ / 0-)
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      people like my stuff! :)

      "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

      by NY brit expat on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 05:34:45 PM PDT

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  •  Excellent post NYB! Thank you for the stories... (3+ / 0-)

    and I am glad you chose to end on an up beat note after the grizzly nature of the first two stories.

    The list of proposals handed over to the president include; the free distribution of contraceptives for men and women,
    I just came from the nurse's desk here in Humboldt County USA where the topic of conversation was the Catholic hospital still denying health insurance with birth control to the women it employs. This is despite the mandate from the President that all health insurance should include birth control options.

    My understanding is that the Catholic church will be out of compliance with the law in 2013, and I see no evidence that they will comply then either.  And, yes, they are still denying women sterilization procedures.

    I doubt that there will be any enforcement of the birth control mandate but I have every confidence that the mandate to purchase health insurance will be enforced. Unfortunately, US women will likely take the abuse and not stand up for themselves like Latinas have.

    The women also demanded more state regulation over the usage of women's bodies as "œmerchandise" in the media
    We can't even dream of going there is the States!

    De air is de air. What can be done?

    by TPau on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 05:29:55 PM PDT

  •  The way of the 1% : "Accountability for thee; (3+ / 0-)
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    not for me". "No excuses for thee, victim-blaming for me".  When I say "no excuses", think Obama, Bill Gates and the education deform mafia - Michelle Rhee, Arne Duncan, Rahm Emmanuel etc (including Republicans) who lecture to those uppity teachers that poverty etc are mere excuses in  not making kids cram stuff into their heads and vomit it in tests.

    I was listening to Michael Parenti talk about his book "the assassination of Julius Ceasar" today. Julius Caesar was murdered by the elites for trying to better things for the unwashed, peasants and the proles. Kinda like what happened to Allende on Sep 11, 1973. Seems the liberal NYT pronounced the judgement : It is all Allende's fault for going socialist too soon without the mandates for it that he got murdered ! This about the guy who had won elections and was only getting more popular !  Reg your comment on the BBC trash which passes for news, Parenti mentioned in the same video that when he wants to relax he goes for fiction - read NYT that is. LoL.

    Cameroon talks about benefit culture of the poor. How about talking about the benefit culture of bankster terrorists, Murdoch, corporations etc - and the culture of impunity?

    "The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out”. - George Carlin

    by Funkygal on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 05:41:17 PM PDT

    •  This is an interesting perspective on (0+ / 0-)

      Julius, quite frankly I had always understood that he was trying to make himself emperor and ran into some difficulties with the Senate who did not want one other powerful family lifted above the others.

      Protection of bread of the slaves and the proles was not invented by the Romans, the Greeks did the same. What the Romans added was Bread and Circuses, keep them fed and entertained. This was the line all the way up into Capitalism where ensuring the price and quality of bread through guarantees, ensuring the poor always had bread, and regulation of the industry was eliminated in favour of the free market doing the same thing. Working people have been fighting ever since to get those protections reintroduced and have not always been successful.

      Comparing Julius Caesar to Allende is rather unfair to Allende who was a socialist politician elected by the populace and who was overthrown by a US backed military coup. Julius as a man of the people is rather odd; he was a successful military man and certainly not elected by the population and not a socialist. Allende deserves far better. Everything else you said, I agree with so much, I cannot tell you! :)

      "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

      by NY brit expat on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 05:37:15 AM PDT

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    •  Great observation! (0+ / 0-)
  •  I don't see the importance of the third story (0+ / 0-)

    outside of Venezuela. They gave the list of proposals to the President. It doesn't mean that any of them will be used for anything.

    •  If you read the link (2+ / 0-)
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      it becomes more apparent.

      Chavez will now review the proposals with a view to including them in the government strategy for the socialist transformation of the country during the next 6 years. He also stated that his government would be committed to deepening gender equality throughout his next term if he is re-elected in the October presidential elections later this year.
      Chavez' power base is the mass of working people and, especially in an election year, he would be expected to make note of their concerns. This is also why NY Brit made note of the Venezuelan example as a contrast to two systems where the foundation of power is entrenched government bureaucracy supported by Capital and in the case of Pakistan, globalised Capital. In England, lawsuits have eventually revealed the extent of the corruption; in Pakistan it may never happen.

      "There's a crack in everything; that's how the light gets in". Leonard Cohen

      by northsylvania on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 01:58:48 AM PDT

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    •  FG, Justina sent me this story and I almost (1+ / 0-)
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      screamed with happiness; I then sent it to other socialist feminists in the UK and around the world, all were thrilled.

      This is a group of women representing the women from indigenous communities, from feminist circles (probably cross-class) and after one year of discussion and negotiation (self-organisation) came up with a set of proposals to incorporate demands for women's equality which will be incorporated into the government's next programme. This is bottom-up organisation having an impact on the top which will benefit all women. This is what so many of us have been trying to do for years, I can assure you that it is of interest beyond Venezuela. This is what we are advocating for reform, the demands that were suggested are for everyone, not only the wealthy. It is rather different than how things are done in many places. For me, I cannot speak for others, women working together to pull together a series of demands that the president listened to and said he would incorporate. The demands themselves tell us much about the level of the women's organisations involved and the level of struggle. I can assure you that indigenous,  peasant, poor and working women are not in the leadership of the struggle in the advanced capitalist world. I hope that helps in understanding why I included this article.

      "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

      by NY brit expat on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 05:29:49 AM PDT

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  •  Simon Harwood (mentioned in the piece (0+ / 0-)

    above) as the policeman responsible for the death of Ian Tomlinson has been dismissed from the Metropolitan police for gross misconduct. Hoping he is never rehired or transfers to another department. This was the maximum penalty that the police could do; his pension is still his as he has not been convicted of a criminal offense:

    The family of Ian Tomlinson will continue the fight to hold someone liable for his death since Simon Harwood was cleared of manslaughter.

    "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

    by NY brit expat on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 07:24:40 AM PDT

  •  off topic but (0+ / 0-)

    i'm going to commit to a diary, i wrote to nybrit in a comment in the last anticap diary, but so far no answer

    so please let me know if my date i think it was 10/7 is okay


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