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As Romney rails against the poor and the "entitled", it bears mentioning that he considers himself a devoutly religious man. Now, while his chosen drink is Mormonism, they are still believers in the bible and the teachings of Christ.

But lets examine exactly WHAT is taught about rich men and charity.

Here is the full passage that everyone refers to when describing the rich and Christianity. It's pretty darn clear if you ask me:

16 Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?”

17 “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.” 18 “Which ones?” he inquired.

Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,’[c] and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’[d]”

20 “All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?”

21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.

23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven.

24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

Now, I'm not here to talk religion. In fact, while I believe Christ was a man with a good message, I don't know if I can resolve that he was the son of God anymore than any of us are the son or daughters of whatever created us.

But if anyone on the right wants this debate it's always been pretty solidly here. We as democrats are not only closer to the teachings of Christ but far more charitable and giving than a majority of these self-centered, full-of-themselves millionaires who have the gall to deride anyone who might need any kind of federal assistance, whether it be due to old age, existing social programs (that we paid into), or disability among ohter things.

Our message: We are all in this together.  Their message: Fuck you and die if you can't afford to live.

Not very Christian, Mormon or anything else for that matter. Just pretty sad and unecessarily callous in my opinion.

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  •  Tip Jar (8+ / 0-)

    "It doesn't matter whether you win or lose. It's how you ladle the gravy." - Felix Ungar

    by Verbalpaintball on Tue Sep 18, 2012 at 10:17:41 AM PDT

  •  Simple enough- he actually has no (3+ / 0-)
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    commonmass, Philpm, Sylv

    beliefs. He just wants to be boss, and will do whatever it takes.

    Must suck to be him...

  •  Worships Mammon and now it's apparent. (3+ / 0-)
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    Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

    by Wee Mama on Tue Sep 18, 2012 at 10:25:23 AM PDT

  •  There's a wide difference between those (4+ / 0-)
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    who use scripture to further or justify their own beliefs and goals and those who seek to live it, and to take it for what it is.

    I know what Mitt Romney is hiding: Mitt Romney. equalitymaine.org

    by commonmass on Tue Sep 18, 2012 at 10:25:55 AM PDT

  •  Mormon doctrine includes: (5+ / 0-)

    Blacks and Asians are cursed by God -- that's why they look different than whites.

    The curse was miraculously "lifted" -- according to the Mormon Prophet -- in the 60s/70s, right around the civil rights movement.

    But I guess we're still stuck looking the way we do.

    •  I was told as a child that (2+ / 0-)
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      Mexicans did not sin as badly so they are not to be slaves but a servant class.

      And if the Mormons did not relent the IRS was going to pounce in 1978. So they had a sudden miracle and brown people were no longer evidence of evil.

      Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.

      by Horace Boothroyd III on Tue Sep 18, 2012 at 10:45:23 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Mormons believe MORMONS are entitled (4+ / 0-)

    through the church, not through the government.

    Why are you people so focused on THIS life?

    Am I right, or am I right? - The Singing Detective

    by Clem Yeobright on Tue Sep 18, 2012 at 10:31:44 AM PDT

  •  He cannot (3+ / 0-)
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    and neither can any GOP / "Christian". In a few "debates", when they come up with this stuff, I ask, "are you a Christian? Do you believe that Christ is your Savior? Then why do you refuse to do what he tells you to do? It's right there in the Book of Matthew, including what Christ says will happen to those who refuse to follow his teachings, in Matthew 25: 31-46

    http://www.biblegateway.com/...

    (They will always dodge) so the response then is, "don't argue with me, I'm not the one to argue with. You are arguing with Jesus, not me."

    "Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government" T. Jefferson

    by azureblue on Tue Sep 18, 2012 at 10:32:09 AM PDT

  •  Tunnel vision (2+ / 0-)
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    Too many who consider themselves religious have tunnel vision.  They follow the narrow requirements placed on them by their faith leaders, not the broad direction of their faith doctrine.  A Christian follows the teaching of Jesus Christ, right?  What did Jesus teach about the death penalty, for example?

  •  Romney's only core belief (1+ / 0-)
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    is in money and how much of it he can make.  Any other statement of his religiosity is lip service to those he thinks will be impressed enough by that to vote for him.  Know problem reconciling that for him.

    Santorum 2012: When Satan isn't enough to scare the crap out of you.

    by Philpm on Tue Sep 18, 2012 at 10:34:02 AM PDT

  •  conservative christians (2+ / 0-)
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    who make up most of the GOP and a third of the electorate rather agree with him. Make of that what you will on how one interprets the various Bibles in use.

    pseudoscience can kill

    by terrypinder on Tue Sep 18, 2012 at 10:38:19 AM PDT

  •  I don't want him anywhere near the Seat. (3+ / 0-)
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    Romney avoids mentioning it, but Smith ran for president in 1844 as an independent commander in chief of an “army of God” advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government in favor of a Mormon-ruled theocracy. Challenging Democrat James Polk and Whig Henry Clay, Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not accede to his demands that “they shall be broken up as a government and God shall damn them.”  Smith viewed capturing the presidency as part of the mission of the church.  He had predicted the emergence of  “the one Mighty and Strong” — a leader who would “set in order the house of God” — and became the first of many prominent Mormon men to claim the mantle.

    Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.

    by Horace Boothroyd III on Tue Sep 18, 2012 at 10:43:12 AM PDT

  •  The gospel of the 1% (0+ / 0-)

    What you are misunderstanding is that Mitt is a Mormon, which strictly speaking, does not mean that he follows the teachings of Christ.  He follows the teaching of the LDS church with regard to the teachings of Christ.  And it seems clear to me that he is a follower of a false gospel that is promoted within the LDS church.  This gospel says not only does God bless you (materially) if you are righteous, but that the inverse is also true.  If you are blessed (materially), it is because you are righteous.  Therefore, anyone who is not materially blessed must be unrighteous (unworthy, undeserving, lazy, irresponsible, part of the 47%, etc.).  You can see this philosophy in practice in the LDS church, where the position a man holds in the church is directly proportional to the amount of money he earns.

    It's not that the LDS church invented this philosophy.  This belief is rampant among Christians as well as non-Christians in the US.  I would argue that the best-selling books "The Prayer of Jabez" and "The Purpose Driven Life" were popular because they reinforce and validate this worldview.  But it's not a new or unique phenomenon.  In the Old Testament, Job's neighbors questioned him about what sins he had committed to deserve his misfortune.  

    The actual teachings of Christ are in direct opposition to this false gospel.  Mitt would do well to go back and re-read them.  But he won't, because he's convinced by his bank accounts that he is a very righteous man who is not in need of learning what it means to be Christian.

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