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Does Romney Really Want to Be President?

That's the subject of an article in The Nation by Leslie Savan (see link below).
Oddly enough, this has been a subject on my mind for a while now, because, ever since having sewn up the Republican nomination last Spring, Romney seems like someone on a mission to...subvert his own presidential campaign.

What has occurred to me over these past few months is that, while Romney has desperately sought and wanted to be the Republican nominee for president, secretly, deep down, psychologically, he hasn't necessarily craved being president quite as much.


Here's my theory:

Romney comes from a religion that has desperately tried to obtain complete political control over this country since its establishment. In fact, it's founder, Joseph Smith, actually ran for president early on with the intention of trying to establish a Mormon religious state in the entire country. After many years of failing to do so, Mormons in the late 1800's seemed to settle, instead, on the creation of their own state, which would then be the launching pad for their eventual takeover of the country. That's how Utah came to be, as sort of a political compromise, which has, essentially, given the Mormon church political supremacy in its own state. It was, in part, why many Mormon's settled the state to begin with, although it wasn't necessarily the only reason (perceived religious persecution was likely a factor, as well).

In any case...back to my theory:

In order for the Mormon church to realistically gain political control in this country, they, first, have to establish themselves as a mainstream religion, acceptable to enough Americans to actually elect a Mormon president. of the first hurdles toward attaining that goal is to, first, break the glass ceiling by getting the first Mormon ever nominated for president by a major political party. That can go a long way toward helping to establish legitimacy as a mainstream relgion.

That, in my opinion, has been Romney's primary psychological motivation all along, to help pave the way for the first Mormon president by being the first Mormon ever nominated for president by a major political party. He achieved that goal last Spring when he, essentially, wrapped up the nomination.

Since then, he hasn't acted that much like someone desperately craving to be president.

While actually winning the presidency might be an added plus for Romney for a variety of reasons, including the above, my guess is that he has pretty much eased up since achieving his primary goal, of being the first Mormon nominated for president by a major political party in the U.S.

Coincidentally, writer of The Nation article seems to have a similar feeling about Romney, that his primary objective has already been achieved.

It would sure explain a lot of his behavior over the past few months.

Of course, it's also possible that Romney is simply incompetent, an out-of-touch corporate raider whose core competency is unrelated to the core competencies required of a President and Commander-In-Chief.

Or...perhaps it's a combination of both: he's already achieved his primary goal, but he also happens to be incompetent, too.


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  •  don't think so (19+ / 0-)

    In reality, Romney thought it would be a cakewalk to become President and instead he found out it was hard work.  Romney doesn't do hard work.

  •  Romney wants to be P.I.N.O. (12+ / 0-)

    This is the type of guy the Republicans pick -- somebody who is President in name only.    He flys in the plane and rides in the big car but leaves the country to be run by the corporations as it should be.   Bush jr was this way, but he actually somewhat liked to campaign with the big flags and noisemakers.    It just irks Romney, who didn't realize that the job entailed so much one on one with the commoners.

    •  I grew up in Jerry Ford's district, so I know (5+ / 0-)

      that the ability to reason has never been much of a plus in a party devoted to lock step ideology.  Jerry was a nice guy in person and did a good job keeping his voters happy in a very safe district in West Michigan.  There was a billborard downtown for quite a while after his burial in downtown Grand Rapids, "Gerald Our Ford".  But nobody even here calls him a genius or even smart.

      As far as Bush the lesser, as I watched the swearing in in 2001 with the sound off, the voice in my head said. "I wonder how much damage this moron will do?"

      Romney's inept self destructive campaigh should indicate to all what his Presidency would be like.  Other than late night commedians, who wants that.

      Never promote men who seek after a state-established religion; it is spiritual tyranny--the worst of despotism. It is turnpiking the way to heaven by human law, in order to establish ministerial gates to collect toll. John Leland

      by J Edward on Sat Sep 22, 2012 at 08:12:34 AM PDT

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  •  I tend to think that (17+ / 0-)

    Mitt Romney sincerely thougth 2012 was going to be an utter coronation from start to finish and not a hard-fought hard-biting contest.

    He acts like a man who dressed in his full ceremonial uniform and gear and rode in on a white steed as he thought he was going to a great surrender ceremony and was shocked that it was a battlefield and people were shooting at him.

    He's bewildered and shocked that this is a fight he is losing. I sincerely believe that.

    I am from the Elizabeth Warren and Darcy Burner wing of the Democratic Party

    by LeftHandedMan on Sat Sep 22, 2012 at 07:53:50 AM PDT

  •  If Willard has any religious principles, they (6+ / 0-)

    haven't been in evidence.  He's apparently committed to a certain level of obedience (he does pay some taxes), but other instinct-driven creatures with enlarged brains, such as dogs, can learn to obey.

    But, let's back-track just a bit.  Ryan was chosen, apparently to the delight of many Republicans, to be an attack dog, like some people, who don't like their neighbors, keep. Then, if we keep the dog analogy, what we've got in Willard is a lap dog. The lap dog and the snap dog. Neither of them show the kind of initiative one expects from a bird dog, a heeler or a retriever.

    So, while the comparison to canines may be unfair, it's the canines who are being done a disservice -- as Seamus has already demonstrated.

    Ask yourself why the story of Seamus has become a family legend.  I submit it's because Willard likes to hear it retold. He's proud of how he handled that kerfuffle.

    We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

    by hannah on Sat Sep 22, 2012 at 07:55:40 AM PDT

  •  Out of Smith's run for President came the (1+ / 0-)
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    White Horse Prophesy Smith who ran to establish “theodemocracy where God and people hold the power to conduct the affairs of men in righteous matters” was shot and killed by a mob during this run.  Not sure how this meshes with the ongoing insanity of the "End Timers" and "Rapture" types but all are irrational belief systems I find scary.

    Never promote men who seek after a state-established religion; it is spiritual tyranny--the worst of despotism. It is turnpiking the way to heaven by human law, in order to establish ministerial gates to collect toll. John Leland

    by J Edward on Sat Sep 22, 2012 at 07:59:59 AM PDT

  •  Convoluting the whole 'does he want to be prez?' (6+ / 0-)

    thing is just spending too much time trying to see more than is there.

    Romney is out of touch, on whatever side of any issue he thinks he needs to pander on to reach his goals. He's spoiled, and feels privileged to being provided with the office he believes he deserves. But, while he may have made a lot of money, he knows nothing of governance or diplomacy, or even economics, knowing more of how to destroy business for profit than to actually build and create.

    Don't confuse his incompetence with not wanting to be president. He's a private school bully who is so self deserving that he holds over half of this country in contempt for not being equal to him and looks down on most everyone as inferior to him.

    Romney's frustrations come through loud and clear. How dare these common peasants prevent him from obtaining the office he so well deserves. He's even tried to school the peasants in a friendly manner. "Corporations are people my friend." and was quite exasperated when his viewpoint was not shared by those beneath him.

    -6.38, -6.21: Lamented and assured to the lights and towns below, Faster than the speed of sound, Faster than we thought we'd go, Beneath the sound of hope...

    by Vayle on Sat Sep 22, 2012 at 08:02:25 AM PDT

  •  Yes & In a CEO Type Of Way, Delegating (3+ / 0-)
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    And I agree with others here that he never expected a fight for this election.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sat Sep 22, 2012 at 08:04:25 AM PDT

  •  I think it's more of a way to surpass his (7+ / 0-)

    father's presidential aspirations, if anything.  Also he has an enormous sense of entitlement and thinks that the next step in his fabulous life is to be president, of course, what else?

    Stop it. This is hard.

    by chicago minx on Sat Sep 22, 2012 at 08:07:38 AM PDT

  •  He wants it. He's just failing. (2+ / 0-)
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    He's not the first man to have his presidential dreams crushed.  Lots of people think they would be great presidents.  Few get the chance to try.  Very few make it as far as Mitt has.   He won't be president, but to get this far is still a huge accomplishment.

    We have the elite, smart people on our side.

    by fearisthemindkiller on Sat Sep 22, 2012 at 08:09:19 AM PDT

  •  It's a good question. (3+ / 0-)
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    Something that has crossed my mind, since he has been dark in swing states and not campaigning. And that strange answer he gave to a press inquiry if he'd be campaigning more? ("Aren't the clouds pretty?")

    Whatever he's up to I would be far less inclined to think it's about Mormonism. If he's on a mission for popular affirmation for Mormonism there is no victory in coming in second. In fact people may conclude his religion weakened support and they won't try nominating a Mormon again.

    Consider what has motivated him all his life: the pursuit of money.

    Maybe he's planning on throwing the election and taking off with all the Super PAC money he left unspent to live happily ever after in a tropical tax shelter, just he and his pile of money on a Cayman Island beach.

    Supporter: "Senator, you have the vote of every thinking person!" Adlai Stevenson: "That's not enough, madam, we need a majority!"

    by Scott Wooledge on Sat Sep 22, 2012 at 08:38:28 AM PDT

  •  It's how he does business... (4+ / 0-)
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    Sure, he wants to be The President.

    But as he's shown in his business career, he wants to strip out all the spoils but assume none of the downside...

  •  Another potential problem (4+ / 0-)
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    As Conan worried after Mitt's strange darkening for the visit with Latinos, "If Romney gets much darker he won't vote for himself."

  •  I don't know a darned thing about (3+ / 0-)
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    the Mormon faith, really.  Just a cursory overview understanding.  

    This is a great diary and thread, IMO.  It opens the floor for full consideration of Romney's motivation for power.  

    Romney has tried twice to unseat popular and dynamic figures.  He charged the Camelot castle against Ted Kennedy.  That didn't work out so well.  Now he's charging the Yes We Can castle and finding it a very tough gig.  

    We've learned more about Romney this year than he has learned about public service.  This is what disturbs some of us, I think, about Romney the man.  In private high school, while his fellow dorm members forced a young man to the floor, Romney clipped the victim's hair on grounds that it "wasn't right," with the very heavy implication that the young man was gay and it was therefore acceptable and justifiable for the others to respond with violence.  

    Some years ago, a dog bolted from the Romney vacation car, never to  be heard from again.  The account of Mitt and Ann putting their luggage inside the car and the dog outside is morally callous.  What kind of adults do that?  Surely they had enough spare cash to get new luggage if it rained.  The act was monstrous.  I hope Seamus bolted, was found in the woods by some kids, and after no one claimed him was taken in by a new family that treats animals with the dignity and affection they deserve.  I'd vote for that new family for public office a long time before I'd ever vote for Mitt Romney.

    The Bain years have Romney as a jobs assassin.  It's heartless and ugly and unnecessary.  It serves the legal profit of corporate entity and does not honor the honest work of human employees.  

    He's won the Republican nomination this year by virtue of having absolutely miserable excuses for opponents and by buying ads that blow them out of the race whenever his lead slipped away to Bachmann, Perry, Cain, Gingrich, or Santorum.  

    Adding up what we have learned about Mitt Romney amounts to asking ourselves how anybody could be so craven and so disconnected.  I'd like to see that craven ambition, that self-important ego, that pervasive mean-spiritedness, and that money-is-All attitude rejected by voters this November in very large numbers.  

  •  Could possibly explain (1+ / 0-)
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    his insistence on not releasing his tax returns. The issue has been a slow hemorrhage since last Feb. If he truly wanted to be president he would have dealt with this issue head on from the beginning. To say nothing of a rather relaxed campaign schedule taken right out of the Fred Thompson playbook. Compare Romney`s schedule, with no job, to even an old Sen. John Mccain of 4 years ago. Still hard to fathom all the effort and disruption to ones life just to be satisfied with second place. We`ll have to wait for the book in the spring.

  •  This stupidity is beyond Romney (1+ / 0-)
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    You're right about this making no sense at all but the stupidity is much bigger than that. The Republican Party has the ability to run a much better scam if they want to but they all seem to have gone insane. Why couldn't they come up with someone much better than this??

    Consider the same problem with any one of the other candidates defeated by Romney or many other.

    "Because something is happening here
    But you don't know what it is
    Do you, Mister Jones?"

  •  I think that in his mind he is obviously the best (2+ / 0-)
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    person to be president. If the voters are too stupid to elect him that isn't his problem; he is rich and can get out when things fall apart. What matters is he stepped forward and made the offer to help the country out. Ann's remarks the other day make perfect sense in that light.

    I don't think being Mormon has anything to do with it. i suspect that he goes through the motions but doesn't really have any deep convictions- like almost all politicians.

    •  Romney has kind of left us with (1+ / 0-)
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      no other choice but to think he is an unfeeling, robotic guy, who thinks it is good to dissemble a company in crisis, sell off the useable parts for high profit, and toss the employees out into the streets.  

      If he did have a more strongly defined motivation from Mormonism to serve, it might be more of a plus than a minus, but again, he would risk alienating the Bible Belt vote, which comprises so much of the GOP base.

      A lot of talk about this went back and forth on a lot of progressive blogs -- last winter.  I'm baffled as to why Romney couldn't have seen certain things coming.  

      From his resume and upbringing, he would seem to be smarter than his campaign.  

  •  Ann Romney (2+ / 0-)
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    Is the drive behind Romney ambition ,she has bankrolled his whole career ,she had  lots of money when she married Romney,anything he accomplished ,she had a say in it

  •  he wanted the pomp & trappings but not the job (2+ / 0-)
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    i would be curious to know how he perceives his own relationship to his pop.  george the lesser certainly had some daddy issues & to me it seems the entire republican party has some warped vision of the patriarchial end of things.

    (that may just be an uber-simplistic pop psychology interpretation)

    This is bigger than me. Its bigger than polka even. So I guess I'll help. - the tao of Butters

    by bnasley on Sat Sep 22, 2012 at 01:02:48 PM PDT

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