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Springtown Texas has been in making national headlines because they'€™ve been allowing and even encouraging corporal punishment in schools and the debate has focused on whether or not an educator of the opposite sex should be allowed to administer the punishment. The following article has been reported in the Associated Press

Texas district expands corporal punishment policy


SPRINGTOWN, Texas (AP) €” Like many schools in Texas, "spare the rod and spoil the child" might be considered the motto at Springtown High School.


But when two teenage girls there reportedly suffered bruises after being paddled by male assistant principals, some parents complained. They weren't upset about the punishment itself, but instead that the school violated the policy requiring an educator of the same sex as the student to dole out the paddling.


So the school district has changed its policy to expand, not abolish, corporal punishment. Board members voted Monday night to let administrators paddle students of the opposite sex, after Superintendent Michael Kelley cited a lack of women administrators to carry out spankings.


The new policy says a same-gender school official must witness the paddling, which is just one "swat," and that parents also can request one spanking per semester. In all cases, a parent must give written permission and request it in lieu of another punishment, such as suspension or detention. full article

This has been cross-posted with images on Open Salon and Blogspot

The time to start calling corporal punishment what it is, child abuse is long overdue; this is especially true when it is used in excess but even when it is used in a manner that is considered moderate it routinely tends to escalate. There has been an enormous amount of research that clearly indicates that this does far more harm than good and there are better ways to accomplish the same goal without the same negative effects. Alice Miller author of "€œFor Your Own Good"€ (free on-line copy) is one of many academic researchers who has provided a compelling argument about the fact that The Roots of Violence are NOT Unknown. Barbara Coloroso author of  "€œKids are Worth it"€ (accompanying web page with additional lectures etc.) Has gone farther and provided an enormous amount of advice on alternative ways of disciplining children that don'€™t involve violence. She expands on the methods that have been developed by Benjamin Spock and other earlier child rearing advocates. I have also done several blogs on this subject including Does child abuse and bullying lead to more violence?   and Child abuse and bullying link in study long overdue. these blogs also cite additional sources.


There is no shortage of evidence or research to indicate that corporal punishment is counter productive and that it leads to escalating violence later in life; there is just a shortage in the willingness of many people to acknowledge this and of the most powerful institutions, including the mass media and the political system, to educate the majority of the public about this. The research cited in the previous links also provides an enormous amount of evidence that indicates that corporal punishment teaches children to obey orders without question; not to scrutinize these orders; reduces empathy and limits the development of critical thinking skills; and it causes many other long term problems. This includes the ability to participate in the democratic process and to recognize propaganda and lies from politicians or even deceptive advertising. This may seem like a lot to many who are unfamiliar with the research that backs this up; and it would be reasonable for people to remain skeptical until they understand how many researchers or I came to these conclusions, but I have no doubt that if they took the time to review it many of them would agree. Alice Miller explained some of this in the following excerpt:

There is a good deal else that would not exist without "poisonous pedagogy." It would be inconceivable, for example, for politicians mouthing empty clichés to attain the highest positions of power by democratic means. But since voters, who as children would normally have been capable of seeing through these clichés with the aid of their feelings, were specifically forbidden to do so in their early years, they lose this ability as adults. The capacity to experience the strong feelings of childhood and puberty (which are so often stifled by child-rearing methods, beatings, or even drugs) could provide the individual with an important means of orientation with which he or she could easily determine whether politicians are speaking from genuine experience or are merely parroting time-worn platitudes for the sake of manipulating voters. Our whole system of raising and educating children provides the power-hungry with a ready-made railway network they can use to reach the destination of their choice. They need only push the buttons that parents and educators have already installed. Alice Miller "€œThou Shat Not Be Aware"€ p.20  


Corporal punishment also prevents children from learning to scrutinize religions and it leads to escalating bigotry and hatred, since it tends to anger children from an early age and they often only get positive feedback from their parents, if they'€™re bigoted or devoutly religious if they adopt the appropriate beliefs, including prejudices; as I attempted to explain in Dobson'€™s Indoctrination Machine and Cause and Effect of Hatred. Corporal punishment is used most widely in the most authoritarian parts of the country and this leads to the heaviest volume of religious fanaticism and it also increases crime in the long run.


Texas is the same state where Judge William Adams was caught on video tape beating his daughter in a video that went viral last year (Judge Says Daughter's Beating was 'Discipline'). According to a recent article, Judge William Adams May Return To Bench Despite Viral Video Of Him Beating His Daughter. This judge was in charge of family and juvenile cases before he was suspended and if he is allowed to be put back on the bench he may wind up doing that again.  

This video clearly shows that this judge can'€™t control his own temper and is not emotionally prepared to return to his position. The fact that he continues to insist that his behavior is justified only ads to the evidence that he shouldn'€™t be allowed to return to the bench. Allowing a judge, that does that to his own daughter, to return to supervising children in court could only lead to additional escalation of violence. This is part of the history of many violent felons that have gone through abusive upbringing that has been continued as an adult in a variety of manners. This includes bullying in school and in many cases when they get charged with crimes in prison. This authoritarian manner of teaching people to conform is also used in military boot camp. As much as many of us like to believe that the soldiers we send to war are heroes the evidence doesn'€™t always confirm that. In fact one former recruiter for the army was just executed in Texas as this story was being reported. The establishment routinely treats executions of veterans as isolated incidents but they'€™re much more common than most people realize. There are an enormous amount of veterans that wind up turning violent and wind up in jail.


The following article pointed out by Julie Worley, who has been tracking this type of activity for several years, at least, presents a good case and the related article by Bud Kennedy  

Absurd Springtown episode shows how swatting students is archaic, wrong and counterproductive


If an adult man hits a teenage girl with a piece of wood leaving her bruised, you might call it assault.


If he does it with another adult watching, it sounds perverted, and the bystander shares the blame.


In Springtown, they call it a school disciplinary policy.


But it's wrong-headed and counterproductive.


Texas remains one of 19 states that perpetuate the archaic disciplinary practice in which school districts can let adults hit minors. That's incongruous if physical and emotional violence are banned in schools and actively discouraged elsewhere as "bullying."


The National Association of Secondary School Principals, which opposes corporal punishment, says it can cause worse behavior and hurt achievement. NASSP Board Position Statements | Corporal Punishment


full article


Instead of eliminating corporal punishment in schools the town of Springfield expanded it; whether they understand what they'€™re doing or not this will lead to an escalation of violence if it is allowed to continue. The people raised in this fashion rarely understand how much damage it does to them and how counterproductive it is and when confronted with it they often deny any research that over whelming indicates how counterproductive this is. There needs to be a much better  Public relation campaign for child abuse prevention to inform more people about how much damage this does. Even the parents that were outraged continue to support what they consider "€œreasonable"€ corporal punishment and the daughter that appeared on TV seemed to be quite happy with her mother now that she was on her side. It is hard to know if this was partly because she was getting positive media attention which presented her well or not but there is a good possibility that she could grow up to believe that this is appropriate if it is what she considers "€œreasonable,"€ and she could do the same to her own children. Unfortunately the corporate media hasn'€™t been willing to provide much if any good coverage about this subject sop that more people would understand how serious this is. Instead they routinely provide an enormous amount of coverage for shows like Nancy Grace that have the opposite effect. Until there is media reform there is still a lot that can be done at the grass roots to inform more people and this could lead to more pressure on the corporate media to cover it better.


The Supreme Court should also overturn Ingraham v. Wright which is the nineteen seventies decision that allowed this to continue.


Shortly after I posted this entry a story was reported about Texas Southern University Suspends Famed Ocean Of Soul Marching Band After Report Of Hazing which involves paddling as part of a hazing ritual. This is one of the behavior patterns that corporal punishment encourages and it is also part of an indoctrination process that escalates in college fraternities. College kids are encouraged to go along with the crowd and to obey orders from their upperclassmen. This is part of the process that continues the teaching of authoritarianism and increases bigotry in many cases as well. It is also used to teach fraternity members to defend their own class, which leads to more inequalities in income from those that control the system.  


Julie Worley also provided the following links on the subject on a previous occasion which I thought would be worth reposting.


A Violent Education: Corporal Punishment of Children in U.S. Public Schools  

Don'€™t beat Black Kids.com or any other kids.


Unlimited Justice


US Juvenile Justice System Inhumane, Breeds More Crime


School is not supposed to hurt PDF


Stop child abuse in schools pass H.R. 3027!!

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  •  High School? (7+ / 0-)

    I'm not in favor of spankings, though I was on the receiving end (ha) of them as a child.  A child, as in under 8 years old.  

    I can't see any reason for spanking a teenager, much less delegating such a task to a teacher or school administrator.  

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    by Tracker on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 10:34:23 AM PDT

    •  Most of us were on the recieving end (1+ / 0-)
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      But that doesn't mean that we have to continue to make the same mistakes our parents did. My own parents reluctantly stopped doing this when we became teens but that was because they realized it would escalate. In other words when we became big enough they thought it was risky; they cut back at first but then realized it had to stop.

  •  A quibble of substance with the title: (8+ / 0-)

    this is not the entire state of 25+ million, but one small rural school district's Superintendent.

    Perhaps, "Texas School District Expands..." is more accurate.

    The Superintendent and principal are idiots, possible criminals, and are not even following state law correctly.  This is not due to state law even, but blatant mis-application of the law in place (with which I disagree), but take it up with the Texas Lege.  Better yet, help us change that.

    But this is not the entire state of Texas, please.

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    by tom 47 on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 10:38:33 AM PDT

    •  You're right I presume (0+ / 0-)

      Perhaps I was to hasty picking the title. What I hear about Texas and most of the South isn't very good along these lines but I have heard of many people that are exceptions. In fact Julie Worley, who I encountered on line is almost certainly from the south and she is doing what she can to change this.

      •  Welcome to your own country. (2+ / 0-)
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        There are roughly a third of the US population living in "the South", depending on your geographic boundaries.  Some parts of Texas may not really qualify; I'd argue that parts of Kansas do.

        I have learned to not discount someone's intelligence nor assume their political pov based on their accented American English.  Your mileage may vary.

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        by tom 47 on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 11:15:47 AM PDT

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      •  My intent was for the title to be more accurate. (3+ / 0-)

        I see it hasn't changed, and I repeat the question:

        is this the entire state of Texas, or the Springtown ISD?

        So the school district has changed its policy to expand, not abolish, corporal punishment.
        This approaches painting the whole 25 million +/- of us wih the same brush, and it's inaccurate, and potentially offensive.

        I take the point about the number of states permitting corporal punishment, I repeat I disagree with it, but this instance is in one school district.  There may be others, in Texas or elsewhere that have administrators that do arguably sadistic things, and in violation of the state law.

        I'd also suggest that a better measure of the number of students hit would be the rate per population, or per student population, or some such, per Shockwave's table fomr INFO Please.  It's still not right, but the innacuracy of the diary title is bothersome.

        Can you edit the title?

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        by tom 47 on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 11:28:14 AM PDT

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        •  Sorry I didn't know how or have time (0+ / 0-)

          I ran out of time yesterday but took the time today to change it. As for how many areas there are that do this I don't know that either but it is much more common than many of us would like including in my area, not just the south; and therefore it would be a good idea to educate people across the country about it.

          Unfortunately the media isn't doing as well as they should due to their profit motivation, ideology or some other reason.

      •  Wait... (0+ / 0-)

        You speak about "the south" in such a way that makes it sound like you know nothing about it.  I'm not sure that I would lump Texas in with Alabama, for example.  They are as different as New York and Georgia.
        Don't take this as an attack, but it seems a bit unusual for someone who is named after a slave-owning Whig U.S. President from Louisiana to not know much about the area of their namesake.

        •  The name was arbitrary (0+ / 0-)

          I didn't even think about who it belonged to until after I chose it. What I know is mostly from the media and the way they present it; I know this isn't limited to any given area but the worst stories that I hear often do come from the South. As you see I did make the title more specific for what it's worth.

  •  I really don't know how a paddle (0+ / 0-)

    left a bruise.

    I got swatted once in middle school for chewing gum.  It didn't hurt, but it was humiliating and I never chewed gum in school again.

    That was in Texas too....a school on Ft. Hood.

    Spring-whatever, TX sounds like a backwoods bunch of assholes.  They have a parental permission clause.  Hopefully, most parents will opt for detention and laugh at the neanderthals who think a stranger should be allowed to hit their kid.

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    by PsychoSavannah on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 10:38:47 AM PDT

  •  That kind of abuse is still going on? (4+ / 0-)

    I know it was when I attended Junior and Senior High School in West Texas back in the early 1960s.

    The physical education and shop teachers were really sadistic.

    A road ran right through the middle of my Junior High school campus and there were buildings on either side of the street. At one time they were actually different schools, but by the time I got there they had been combined into one school. And, so you had to cross the street a couple of times a day to get to class.

    There was a crosswalk with a traffic light and you were supposed to wait for the light, but some kids jumped the gun to get to class on time.

    Anyway, this shop teacher liked to catch boys crossing the street against the light. I don't know about the girls. I think he just liked to nail the boys.

    He had a collection of baseball bats that he had sliced down into paddles by making a cut on either side leaving a wide strip that served as a paddle. He also drilled holes in the wood to cut down on the air resistance.

    One day he caught me and gave me around 5 spats on the ass that nearly killed me.

    Sorry, but a couple of decades later the asshole died of a heart attack right in the middle of a high school football game and all I could do was chuckle when I heard about it.

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    by Mr Robert on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 10:39:14 AM PDT

    •  I was lucky not to be from the south (1+ / 0-)
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      or any other state that still has this; it wasn't until I was an adult that i realized that some states allowed this in schools and I was shocked by it. As  a kid I thought of it as being something only parents could do and that it was history.

      Thanks for the responses everyone; I won't have time to respond to the rest of you but will get back to it tomorrow.

  •  The states that allow corporate punishment... (4+ / 0-)

    ...at schools are mostly the core of the new Republican Party;

    Corporal Punishment

    It seems to me that ex-slavery states are the worst.  It is clear to me that the slavery mentality is still lurking in the recesses of the mind of Southerners.  No wonder Rmoney has a40% advantage over Obama among Southern working class whites.

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    by Shockwave on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 10:45:05 AM PDT

    •  If any of the 3 schools my grandkids (2+ / 0-)
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      attend in SC even considered paddling students, they would be burnt to the ground.  Even here in SC, there are more decent folks than not who would never allow it.

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      by PsychoSavannah on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 10:51:00 AM PDT

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      •  South Carolina seems to be better than most... (2+ / 0-)
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        ...southern states.

        But Texas, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Missouri, Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia, Arkansas and Alabama seem medieval.

        What IS wrong with this people?  Slavery numbed them to corporal punishment?

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        by Shockwave on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 10:55:09 AM PDT

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        •  No. It's a conservative belief that (3+ / 0-)

          kids should be disciplined.  Don't you know any conservatives?  LOL!  They all believe all the problems in our country and world are because of Dr. Spock.  It's tied into the "entitlement" mentality, the trophies just for showing up hoo-hah, and spoiled rotten kids not behaving that have caused allllllll of our problems.

          I hear it all the time and it drives me nuts.  But, I also see parents who DO let their kids do whatever they want, never discipline, and think it's just fine and dandy that their kids have Ultimate Fight Club matches on the playground and tell grown ups to fuck off.

          We will never get through to those people.  Ever.  Especially when beating the living shit out of each other is on tv and "Honey Boo Boo" is a smash hit.  Ignorance will always be with us.  We have to bring up more kids to reject it.  Hard to do, but we keep trying.

          David Koch is Longshanks, and Occupy is the real Braveheart.

          by PsychoSavannah on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 11:21:39 AM PDT

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          •  That Dr' Spock argument is populare as you say (0+ / 0-)

            James Dobson made that argument ironically he acknowledge that Dr. Spock once told him that wasn't what he was suggesting but then he still turned around and made a similar argument for corporal punishment and against Spock. I don't remember the source for that Dobson acknowledgement but I came across it when I wrote Dobson’s Indoctrination Machine.

            However as I said in the reply just above the Democrats also have this problem but probably not as severe.

    •  Corporate punishment? Is that what Romney did (1+ / 0-)
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      when he was at Bain Capital?

      Sorry, couldn't resist.

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      by sjburnman on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 10:55:51 AM PDT

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    •  Both parties have this problem to various degrees (0+ / 0-)

      Republicans do seem to be the worst statistically; or at least many of them but if you look at enough of these social statistics it became clear that you have to cross-check them in a variety of manners. The corporate media rarely ever do that but good sociologists like Murray Straus do; they do a large variety of these studies and make a habit of informing people of the potential problems with them and how they try to correct them. However in most cases I agree that the Republicans are falling for much worse propaganda than many Democrats. Right now both these parties are in the control of the corporations and a lot of the Democrats have bought the argument that we have to vote Democratic all the time instead of independent even though the democrats are constantly becoming more like Republicans.

      They would be much less likely to fall for more complex propaganda if not for authoritarian upbringing as indicated by the Alice Miller quote in the article.

  •  I'm shocked, shocked I tell you (1+ / 0-)
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    to find out that this happened in Texas.

    It's just so totally out of character . . ..

    More seriously, isn't there some constitutional mechanism in place that will let them just get the fuck out of the country?

    •  Um, no (3+ / 0-)
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      Do you happen to recall the Civil War? Same question. Answer is "no."

      •  Well, there should be (0+ / 0-)

        seriously, I don't understand this obsession about keeping countries together - (other examples include Quebec and Canada as well as Tibet and China).

        If the two entities are clearly incompatible, they should not only be allowed but be encouraged to go their separate ways.

        Much like Sonny and Cher (which worked out well) as compared to Ike & Tina (which worked out less well) - heck, I'd give more up to date examples, but I'm really old and semi-insane so that's not really an option.

        •  You know, I live in Texas (3+ / 0-)
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          and so do a lot of other progressives who believe we're all in this together.

          There are idiots in every community all over this country. You can't just divorce yourself completely from people like that, unless you go and live on an island by yourself.

          •  So, you're saying there is some obligation (2+ / 0-)
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            to the whole community, broadly speaking, to which we belong?  Like the country?  Even if there are idiots, or people who sometimes behave like idiots?  And we shouldn't just write them off, and bad-mouth them, and tell them to go make their own counrtry if they don't like it?  Or even if I don't like it, you should go make your own country without us (or at least me)?

            C'mpn, as a Texan, you should be used to this crap folks dish out, here and elsewhere (try it from your own relatives sometime).  What, are you some kind citizen of this country?  Others may tell you "No, you're not American.  You're a Texan".

            Don't listen to them.  We'll change things here ourselves with or without them and their help.  The Texas-bashing DOES get old, however.

            Peace.

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            by tom 47 on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 11:56:25 AM PDT

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            •  Gee, I don't think of myself as a Texan (1+ / 0-)
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              I was born in Vermont! Once a Vermonter, always a Vermonter.

              But our only child was born in Texas, so I guess I have that immutable connection to the state. She is excited to be able to cast her first ever vote in a presidential election this year...for Obama, of course.

  •  For cryin' out loud. My jaw dropped & stayed (0+ / 0-)

    that way throughout the diary. Good G-d.  I hope your bill passes.

  •  So, the people that deny evolution and proclaim (1+ / 0-)
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    that they 'don't come from monkeys' are the very ones who use the threat of physical punishment on their own children to enforce their rules of behavior. And for infractions thereof, they actually deliver on that promise, by proxy if necessary.

    It all seems a bit animalistic to me.  Reminds me of how other primates might behave.

    Skeptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep thoughts can be winnowed from deep nonsense. Carl Sagan

    by sjburnman on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 11:15:50 AM PDT

    •  I don't know of any animal that (2+ / 0-)
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      treats it's offspring with that kind of brutality. At most, I see animals protect their offspring from immediate harm with roughness- grabbing by the scruff to move them, a kick to keep them within the herd circle of protection- that sort of immediate rough rescue that also teaches "Danger".

      No animal but humans wait, verbally admonishing then physically beating a child long past the point of their wrong. For teens, there is no excuse. They are old enough to reason and beatings will only cause resentment, not discipline. Younger kids cannot connect the punishment with the action when it is separated by time. A slap on the hand reaching for a hot stove, or spank immediately on stopping a kid from running into a road (and traffic)- those make sense. It's the kind of punishment animals do for their offspring. The "wait til you father gets home!" kind- that does not, cannot work with the way we know the brain and memory to work.

      I am much too liberal to be a Democrat.

      by WiseFerret on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 11:48:13 AM PDT

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      •  Your point is valid (0+ / 0-)

        but the truth is that if you look close enough at the animal kingdom you can find other animals that are abusive. I think I came across a similar statement here at DKO recently. It sounds good to say that no other animal does these things and I have at times done so myself but then I learned that cats play games with their pray for fun and both Lions and Gorillas have been know to abuse and kill their offspring.

        Jane Goodall and Diane Fose have both written about this; I don't remember whether it was Joy Admason that wrote that about lions or more likely someone else but there is more where that came from.

        However as i said the point is valid; we ahve the educational institutions to learn better and end this yet we haven't yet.

  •  Fucking barbarians. (0+ / 0-)

    And doubly so for any parent that would actually REQUEST that their child be hit by another adult.  

    "When people show you who they really are, believe them." - Maya Angelou

    by Pennsylvanian on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 01:19:41 PM PDT

  •  Wow! (1+ / 0-)
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    I thought this was a situation in a small town with a population less than 3000, but now you are telling me it is the entire state of Texas?  The whole state OK'd this?  I guess UID 542266 has secret access to the halls of power in Austin and the homes of Texas residents of all political persuasions that the rest of us living here lack. Thank you for alerting us to this statewide travesty.  /snark

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    by Catte Nappe on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 01:39:38 PM PDT

    •  Thanks, catte (2+ / 0-)
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      I tried ...twice, above to get the diarist to adjust the title, to no avail.

      Sometimes sarcasm (and snark) are wasted...

      To repeat: this is the Springtown ISD, its Superintendent (if I understand correctly), and one principal.  I suspect there aren't more than 3, or 4 schools TOTAL in the whole district.  NOT THE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS!  Fer Pete's sake!

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      by tom 47 on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 02:03:36 PM PDT

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  •  School Corporal Punishment/Pain against children (1+ / 0-)
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    Nothing Sexual about school paddling? http://schoolpaddlingblog.com/ http://fb.me/...

    What safety standards protect schoolchildren from sadistic pedophiles filming & sharing paddlings? FL Deputy filmed herself brutally paddling naked girls sent video to fetish website boyfriend search Investigators: Polk deputy tied naked children to desk, beat them with paddle - http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...

    3 recent news reports OK, TN, TX excessive force school paddling injuries students K-12 Fed Bill HR 3027 to Abolish http://on.kfor.com/... http://on.wbir.com/... http://fb.me/...

    Where do taxpayer funded schools purchase spanking paddles to inflict pain punishment on schoolchildren? What are safety standards to protect childrem from excessive force injuries by mandatory child abuse reporters?

    "Teacher Immunity Laws" protect school employees (mandatory child abuse reporters) from criminal/civil action when students are injured by deliberate infliction of pain by school employees hitting them with wooden boards as punishment of minor infractions.

    Federal Lawmakers Apathetic to Legal Student Beatings, yet Enacted Federal Law to Prohibit Corporal Punishment of convicted Felons, murderers and child molesters, in ALL U.S. Prisons! http://fb.me/... http://fb.me/... http://fb.me/...

    10yr old Tim paddled 2xs 3 days mom had to pull underwear off from dried blood genitals bruised & swollen http://fb.me/...

    Congressional Subcommittee on Healthy Communities and Families Hearing held 4/15/2010 Why Lawmaker Apathy?   Child Protection/Equality Federal Bill HR3027 End Student Beatings http://fb.me/...

    States where school employees legally beat kids with wooden boards no safety standards no legal remedy for injuries AL AZ AR CO FL GA ID IN KS KY LA MS MO NC OK SC TN TX WY http://fb.me/... http://fb.me/... http://fb.me/...

    Many students hit in schools have disabilities like Autism http://www.hrw.org/...

    Black students 17% nationwide student population but nearly 36% of those paddled in schools
    http://www.aclu.org/...

    223,190 Kids Legally Beaten in US Schools annually with Impunity, 20,000 students seek emergency medical treatment http://huff.to/...

    See school paddling blog dot com then search headline Why school leaders say theres nothing sexual about paddling If you disagree and believe children should be protected from sexual and physical abuse in taxpayer funded schools Call US Education Chairman John Kline at 202 225-6558 to Demand Congress Enact HR 3027 The Ending Corporal Punishment in Schools Act NOW!

  •  Texas School Corporal Punishment Law (1+ / 0-)
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    "The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves" Texas Public School Slogan see following photo of plaque with saying hanging in Principal's Office click article link to view
    CPS to investigate spanking
    City View student, 16, missed D-Hall

    Child Protective Services has launched an investigation into City View Independent School District's spanking practices, according to Angie Herring, the mother of a 16-year-old City View student who was spanked Monday but still carried the red marks on his buttocks Thursday.
    Herring photographed the red marks and reported the spankings — so severe, she said, that they crossed the line into abuse — to CPS on its hotline Tuesday.
    According to the Attorney General's Office, corporal punishment becomes abusive "only if 'observable and material impairment' occurs as a result."
    In the Texas Penal Code section 9.62, there is considerable leeway given in the educator/student relationship to use force in some situations, according to Sgt. Joe Snyder, public information officer for the Wichita Falls Police Department.
    An educator is given permission to use "force, but not deadly force, against a person," according to the Code. "The use of 'force but not deadly force' would seem to say you can use any force except killing them," Snyder said.

    http://www.timesrecordnews.com/...

    Many of the other states that allow corporal punishment are located in the Bible Belt — a characteristic Allen said is no coincidence.
    "Spare the rod, spoil the child," she said, quoting a biblical saying. "What I've heard is that people think they aren't doing their jobs as parents, as educators, if they don't paddle students."
    Angie Herring, Anastopoulous' mother, said her son's welts were so severe that they sought medical attention. She said she doesn't want to send her child to such a hostile environment.
    "You don't want your kid to be scared to go to school and be around the guy that carries a paddle and a Bible down the hall," she said.

    "School Paddles too dangerous for Capitol, lawmaker says" reads the Headline by Dallas News on March 22, 2011
    re: HB 359 only recently signed into law by Presidential Candidate, Texas Governor Rick Perry giving Parents the RIGHT to Prohibit Pain to Punish Their Children in Schools! There article stated that "A compromise bill would allow the practice only for children whose parents sign a form giving the school permission to paddle their children. As a freshman a few sessions ago, Allen tried to ban it and was met with lawmakers standing up on the House floor recounting how they were hit by teachers in school and turned out all right. It was almost a bragging session, and it was .... strange."

    U.S. Schoolchildren treated differently based on where they live, church and state co-exist in public schools - IS IT GOOD FOR KIDS AND EQUALLY APPLIED IN ALL SCHOOLS?

    In reversal, House OKs corporal punishment limits

    Associated Press - May 12, 2011
    AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - The Texas House has passed a bill to require schools to get parental permission before applying corporal punishment, a day after defeating the measure.
    The bill by Democratic state Rep. Alma Allen requires schools to contact parents before using any kind of physical punishment.
    Under current law, school districts can each set their own rules and procedures for corporal punishment. Allen said her bill would set statewide standards.
    Republicans defeated the bill on a 69-73 vote Wednesday, arguing it infringed on the autonomy of school districts.
    But it passed 87-56 on Thursday, after lengthy debate.
    Some representatives who opposed the measure sung the praises of school spankings to straighten out problem students. Those supporting it said parents should be the ones to decide how their kids are punished.

    http://www.kltv.com/...

    “There are two Americas out there for young students right now – one where they go to school knowing that they’ll be guided positively by caring adults, and one where they live in constant fear of getting beaten,” said Rep. McCarthy, a member of the Committee on Education and Workforce.

    Contentious legislation was hotly debated by Texas Lawmakers in the House of Representatives giving parents the right to prohibit corporal punishment/paddling of their children by school employees, but republican lawmakers insisted on an exemption for communities of 50,000 or less, 3/4 of Texas! The Texas Senate struck that exclusion and gave parents across Texas the right to choose if their kids are spanked. The bill was signed by U.S. Presidential Candidate and Texas Governor Rick Perry.

    Excerpts from 5/22/2011 article link below: (Texas) School paddling case reflects state's division over corporal punishment - http://www.statesman.com/... poral-1491590.html

    "Yet pain is the point of striking a child with a piece of wood."

    "This is corporal punishment; you have to assume there's going to be injury," said Jefferson "Jay" Brim, another Austin attorney who defends educators."
    "Corporal punishment is a legal oddity that in the best of circumstances places great risks on the educator," Lungwitz wrote in a recent essay for the Texas Elementary Principals and Supervisors Association News.

    News Investigative Reporters:  Please Investigate and Report on the Abusive and Destructive Practice of Taxpayer Funded Public Schools Use of Corporal Punishment, Pain to Punish Students which persists in mostly southern "Bible Belt" states  
    Please scroll to bottom, you will not believe legal and protected incidents of child abuse in US taxpayer funded public schools and provide an in--depth investigative report covering both sides of this important childrens' rights issue.  What guarantees for schoolchildren's safety are there when school corporal punishment is legal and protected by "Teacher Immunity Laws"?

    Spankings may be linked to mental issues
    Holliday ISD says act is not the go-to option for discipline http://www.timesrecordnews.com/...

    •  Thanks for the list of links (0+ / 0-)

      I don't know when or if I'll find time to read them all but it is still helpful. I assume you've been collecting them and have copies of your own; so you may not have noticed that some of your links are no longer working. A quick Google search has turned up some of the articles that might be missing though.

      http://www.nospank.net/...

      http://abclocal.go.com/...

      http://m.lubbockonline.com/...

      Also one of your sources says something about spanking not being sexual; to many of us that is clearly true but that is another problem with corporal punishment it increases sado-machosism and many pedophiles  learn to like the pain that is inflicted on them as a child and that makes them even more dangerous. that is one of the things that Alice Miller and Philip Greven author of Spare the Child wrote about.

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