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6:41 PM PT: Hmm. Obama is hinting at the 47% stuff.

6:43 PM PT: Talks about how his grandma was independent because she put her money into Social Security—and it helped her be independent in her golden years. Obama says sometimes the word "entitlement" makes it sound like this is dependency, but explains that it's not. He's not directly hitting the 47% thing (at least not now), but he's clearly setting himself up to raise it, at least reminding viewers of what Romney said.

6:44 PM PT: Romney almost makes a collosal mistake, initially saying he and Obama have the same plan on Medicare for people in the next decade. But he quickly realizes that would be a denial of his bogus $716 billion attack. So in the course of about 75 seconds he goes from saying he and Obama agree on Medicare ... to Obama is the worst person in the world on Medicare.

Got whiplash? I do.

6:46 PM PT: This split-screen really is not kind to Mitt Romney. And while I think he's generally been fairly composed during his speaking moments, he really hasn't laid down the seeds of any argument that will undermine or weaken Obama. And I really think he made a mistake with his Medicare answer, initially forgetting that he's supposed to say Obama is evil.

6:51 PM PT: Mitt Romney thinks he owns that podium. And he wants America to know it.

6:52 PM PT (Kaili Joy Gray): New thread here.

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