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Isn't it funny how when Romney is trying to make up education policy credentials for himself, suddenly he wants us to remember that he was governor of Massachusetts, a time in his life he's mostly tried to erase on the campaign trail? In the debate, he claimed that "I've been there. Massachusetts schools are ranked number one in the nation. This is not because I didn’t have commitment to education. It’s because I care about education for all of our kids."

But Romney's taking credit for something he doesn't own:

Bay State students routinely score at the top on national and international tests. But that achievement is largely credited to the state’s 1993 landmark education reform law that poured billions of dollars into schools, set academic standards, and spawned the standardized testing that Romney fiercely guarded. [...]

Overall test scores grew incrementally during Romney’s tenure. The achievement of non-native English speakers — a demographic whose progress Romney targeted during his gubernatorial campaign against bilingual education — barely budged.

Massachusetts doesn't miraculously have great schools because Mitt Romney cared. Romney became governor of a state that already had great schools. He managed not to screw that up when it came to K-12 education, something that can't be said for higher education, which he hurt badly. Not exactly anything to brag about.

Originally posted to Daily Kos Labor on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 01:48 PM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos and Massachusetts Kosmopolitans.

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  •  and Obama could have easily mentioned that (6+ / 0-)

    I don't know Massachusetts very well, but those great schools could not have been the result of mittens

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    by BlueDragon on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 01:58:12 PM PDT

  •  Massachusetts is spending ~ $18,000 per student (15+ / 0-)

    which puts it near the top in per pupil resources.

    Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

    by elfling on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 02:15:44 PM PDT

  •  Oh definitely... (22+ / 0-)

    ...those schools were great long before Romney got there. Then again, schools tend to be good in strongly unionized regions with highly educated teachers who work in schools that aren't being starved of funding.

    "Growing up is for those who don't have the guts not to. Grow wise, grow loving, grow compassionate, but why grow up?" - Fiddlegirl

    by progressivist on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 02:16:27 PM PDT

    •  GOP / Bush financial crisis (1+ / 0-)
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      did a lot of harm to MA schools, which lost teachers and funding because of budget cuts force by the recession (with reduced revenues and high unemployment).

      The schools should be better than they are, but still they perform the best in the nation.

      Skepticism of all the elite institutions, not trust, is what required for successful leadership in this era. Digby

      by coral on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 08:56:26 AM PDT

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  •  Education bloggers are planning Oct 17th (10+ / 0-)

    as a date for everyone to send emails to the President about the destructive policies of Arne Duncan and Race To The Top. So if you've been thinking about writing a letter, that might be  a great day to submit it.

    Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

    by elfling on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 02:17:42 PM PDT

  •  Grew up in Mass. (15+ / 0-)

    And my schools were excellent back in the 60's and 70's.  I even had full Professors teaching me in a few classes.  Education has always been important -- and ahead of the curve -- in Massachusetts.  I had no idea how rare that is until I left the Commonwealth.  If the Mass. schools are still good, it's inspite of Romney rather than because of him.

    They have created a world where everything is an opinion, and nothing is a fact, everybody is entitled to an opinion, and every opinion is equally valid.

    by SlowNomad on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 02:24:22 PM PDT

    •  SlowNomad, just posted the same thing... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...I seem to remember our schools being rated #1 in the 60's and 70's too.

      My elementary school was part of some great experimental programs that had to do with "combination classes" (mixing students from different grades to provide mentoring etc.), advanced reading programs, etc. etc.  

      I think Mitt came to MA with the schools already far ahead of the curve.

      "When a man tells you that he got rich through hard work, ask him: 'Whose?' Don Marquis

      by hopesprings on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 10:32:11 AM PDT

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  •  Ever Wonder WHY Mitty Never (13+ / 0-)

    got a second Term as Governor of Massachusetts ?

    Mitty managed to SCREW things up Royally.

    Now that Stupid, Lying Bastard wants to do the SAME
    thing to the Entire Country.

    On Giving Advice: Smart People Don't Need It and Stupid People Don't Listen

    by Brian76239 on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 04:04:24 PM PDT

    •  he cose not to run for2nd term, having disssed.... (9+ / 0-)

      Madsachusetts for last two.years of his first term as he spent more time outside the state than in.

      "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

      by BlueStateRedhead on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 03:41:35 AM PDT

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      •  MA hates Mitt! (7+ / 0-)

        As a MA voter, I keep waiting for the entire country to realize what we did. Willard M. Romney was an awful Governor, and would be a worse President! Any wonder he is losing here by double digits?? How dare he now try to take credit for the school performances! I can't even stand to watch him smirking any more. I can't wait for this to be over!

        •  Bingo! Mass does indeed hate Willard! (4+ / 0-)

          I had this image of Massachusetts Democratic state legislators' heads exploding as Mitt waxed poetic about how bipartisany and cooperative and open he was with the Legislature when he was Governor. What total BS!!!!

          As Governor Mitt was incredibly insular toward the Legislature as well as the media (not to mention the public) and he did jackola for the state other than reversing the few progressive stands he took to get elected, running higher ed into the ground and presiding over piss poor job growth. The only reason he finally got on board with health care reform -- a Democratic initiative -- was because he needed an accomplishment to run for President on.

          There's a reason Deval Patrick was elected -- to clean up the mess Mitt left.

          And to top it all off Mitt was only Gov for about 2 years of his 4 year term; the rest of the time he was out traversing the country running for President -- and bad mouthing his state and constituents on a daily basis to get cred with the GOP base -- which, believe me, did not go unnoticed here. There's a good reason his approval rating and polling numbers in Mass are in the crapper. He earned those ratings.

          "The country we carry in our hearts is waiting." ~ Bruce Springsteen

          by abs0628 on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 08:56:00 AM PDT

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    •  Did anyone notice this part -- "ALL our kids"? (3+ / 0-)
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      I've been there. Massachusetts schools are ranked number one in the nation. This is not because I didn’t have commitment to education. It’s because I care about education for all of our kids.
      He sure is trying to counteract his vile 47% remarks by throwing in as many "I care about the 100%!" and "I care about all Americans!" remarks as he can manage these days.

      Mitt, if you have to work so hard to convince us you care about all Americans ... you don't.

  •  Yeah, I hate it when people take credit for stuff (5+ / 0-)

    that was already in process.   I have carried the ball down to the goal line many times, only to have someone else score and claim all the credit.   And then dance in the end zone, too.

    That sucks.  

    He only employs his passion who can make no use of his reason. - Cicero

    by SpamNunn on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 06:39:46 AM PDT

  •  Massachusetts resident here (14+ / 0-)

    who would be happy to talk about all the ways Rmoney screwed up as Gov

    there is very little he did right, and even health care was something he was originally opposed to until he figured out it might help his future presidential prospects

    "Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D."
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    by TrueBlueMajority on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 06:39:58 AM PDT

    •  My reading is that it was the work of the (4+ / 0-)

      democratic legislature and Romney's only contribution was to show up to the signing.  Is that about right?

      •  I would add this caveat... (4+ / 0-)
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        Romney arrived at a unique time- sort of- the legislative leadership was involved in scandal after scandal, and was considerably weaker in it's clout and in the esteem of the public. Still, they cooperated with Mitt quite a bit; as they did with Bill Weld. My recollection is that on the budget, because he came in when we were in deficit, he got a significant amount of what he asked for.  I know this because I was serving in city government here in MA- the cuts he proposed and managed to get through the legislature put a structural deficit of $1.5 million is school budget of $24 mil; in the last 8 years, we have never been able to make that up.

        Want an example?  When Governor Romney took office, my district had model world language program that began in pre-school. When he left office, our world language program began in 9th grade, and was reduced from 3 languages to 2.

        Romney vetoed over 800 bills, many were overturned. But enough were sustained to do lasting damage to the education infra-structure in MA.  Hardly the actions of a man who was only allowed to punch the clock.

        "When you're skating on thin ice, you might as well dance." Jesse Winchester

        by The Poet Deploreate on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 08:26:34 AM PDT

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      •  like all Republicons, Rmoney was opposed to (1+ / 0-)
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        what was then being called Hillarycare.

        After it became obvious in the summer of 2004 that Hillarycare would collapse on the national level, progressive groups in Massachusetts started working on how to implement something at the state level.

        Shortly after the 2004 elections Rmoney suddenly decided he was FOR health care reform.  Lots of people here assumed (correctly) that he was just setting himself up for his presidential run of 2008, thinking it would be a feather in his cap to do on the state level what Dems had failed to do on the national level.

        Rmoney grabbed onto the bill and tried to take credit for it, even as he vetoed some of the more liberal parts of it including dental coverage for Medicaid patients.  All eight of the parts he vetoed were eventually restored by the Democratically controlled legislature.

        So in the final year of his term, R$ spent more than 200 days out of state, running around the country simultaneously badmouthing Massachusetts and taking credit for our healthcare reform, even though he was originally opposed to it and did his best to water it down.

        The law as it stands is essentially the product of Massachusetts progressive advocacy and the Democratic legislature working to over-ride R$ vetoes.

        Grrr!  Don't even START me!

        "Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D."
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        by TrueBlueMajority on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 09:11:13 AM PDT

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  •  The zinger that didn't happen (15+ / 0-)

    Romney:  "Massachusetts schools are ranked number one in the nation."
    Obama:  "You didn't build that."

  •  there was a reason he left MA with a 30% approval (10+ / 0-)

    Mass "survived" Romney's efforts

    •  He killed bilingual education (6+ / 0-)

      He can claim direct responsibility for the lack of progress in education of non-native English speakers.  

      He killed bilingual education, a program proven to work, and required all instruction in English, regardless of the student's existing language ability.

      It was a politically popular xenophobic idea, so he got out in front of it.  Does that ring a bell?

      The results have been a nonstop disaster, as anyone who lives or teaches in a town with a large immigrant population will tell you.

      •  I don't even understand that one, (0+ / 0-)

        it's one thing to want everyone to learn/speak English, that's totally understandable, but how does teaching in only English help educate non-English speakers when they can't even comprehend what's happening, because they can't speak their own language. How do they expect to have one without the other.

        "The government of the many, not the government of the money" - Nancy Pelosi

        by Americantrueandblue on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 02:46:05 PM PDT

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      •  Also, it's been five years (0+ / 0-)

        since he was governor, why hasn't that been changed if it's been such a disaster (no snark intended)?

        "The government of the many, not the government of the money" - Nancy Pelosi

        by Americantrueandblue on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 08:47:11 PM PDT

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  •  To be honest, the only thing of worth that (6+ / 0-)

    Mittens has accomplished is give the Democratic campaign a lot of ammunition to use for political commercials.

    For everything else about the man is a made up caricature of what he thinks his adherents will accept.

    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin

    by politicalceci on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 06:44:35 AM PDT

  •  Romney KNOCKED us down from 3rd to 5th (15+ / 0-)

    in education.

    Which may not seem like much, but when you are a small state and one of your major industries IS education .. that drop was MAJOR

    It was Deval that brought us back

    Mitt's term was marked by teachers talking about strikes, walk outs, low moral, etc.

    Bumper sticker seen on I-95; "Stop Socialism" my response: "Don't like socialism? GET OFF the Interstate highway!"

    by Clytemnestra on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 06:46:55 AM PDT

    •  I love how he calls Massachusetts (1+ / 0-)
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      "my State."

      I'm not a permanent Mass resident anymore (nor was I when Mitt was guv) but my late Dad who is a lifelong resident called me many times to go off on Romney...

      (...though he loved the healthcare program.)

      After Romney left there was a huge mess to clean up.  I doubt seriously that many Massachusetts residents would proudly call him "our governor."

      "My State" indeed.  Mitt's spiritual state is Utah.

      "When a man tells you that he got rich through hard work, ask him: 'Whose?' Don Marquis

      by hopesprings on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 10:37:42 AM PDT

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  •  Just like Reagan in California (3+ / 0-)
    Romney became governor of a state that already had great schools. He managed not to screw that up when it came to K-12 education, something that can't be said for higher education, which he hurt badly. Not exactly anything to brag about.
  •  Mits knocked the State University system while Gov (4+ / 0-)

    As a Massachusetts resident ( who did not vote for Mittens) he did a lot of harm during his brief term to the state University system by pursuing a vendeta against William Bulger, the well liked and respected president of the UMass system.  William Bulger is of course the brother of the infamous 'Whitey Bulger', and that was all Mittens needed to know to push William Bulger out.  Romney's bullying tactics were on full display and  the UMass University system was harmed.  I was a graduate student during that time and saw it  first hand.

    Actually I thought it was interesting Mittens decided to showcase his record in MA.  The Obama team could go to town if they did some digging.  He was a disaster.  Ask the current governer about the mess he had to clean!

  •  And how many Phd's per square foot are there in (6+ / 0-)

    Mass.?  And Mittens is going to take credit.  I thought that was one of the dumber claims in a night evasions, obfuscations, whoppers.

    •  I didn't know the details, but I suspected he was (2+ / 0-)
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      lying. You could tell by that smarmy smirk of his. His campaign really doesn't care about fact checkers.

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      by Pescadero Bill on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 07:01:32 AM PDT

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      •  I really think (0+ / 0-)

        he may have a pathological lying problem.

        I don't see a flinch or a tell when he lies.  Even that "Lie to Me" guy would have a hard time picking up on his lies based on facial cues.  

        Like a cult member, lies slip out of his mouth without any twinge of conscience because he believes this is all necessary for the greater good.

        Which to him is President Romney.

        The end justifies the means so who the hell cares what I say.

        "When a man tells you that he got rich through hard work, ask him: 'Whose?' Don Marquis

        by hopesprings on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 10:40:53 AM PDT

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  •  That's Bullshit. (1+ / 0-)
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    Maryland schools are number one 4 years running....and always near the top for over a hundred years.

    Maryland also has the most educated people per capita as well.

  •  Damn, I hate that S.O.B. He's such a liar. (5+ / 0-)

    I know that kind of person. The kind that likes to take credit for the success of something they had nothing to do with.

    He's got to lose, he's got to lose bad, and then he has to get lost.

    Vote Tea Party Taliban! Bring the Burqa to America.

    by Pescadero Bill on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 06:54:15 AM PDT

  •  Harvard was such a shitty school before Willard (5+ / 0-)

    Thankfully he came to the rescue and instantly changed all those loser institutions into winners.

    He also saved the London Olympics, dontcha know. After all, if he hadn't expressed some concern prior to the Olympics opening, the organizers would never have been blessed with his brilliant analysis to clean things up quickly and make a success.

    Everything Willard touches turns to gold (often fool's gold, mind you).

    "Kiss my ass, this is a Holy site" - a RomneyBot 2012 media expert, addressing the media

    by lotac on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 07:03:25 AM PDT

  •  Romney's views on education are well-documented (8+ / 0-)

    and they have little to do with the successful Mass. model. He's a big charter school proponent, and would just as soon divert funds from public schools to corporate-run institutions. At the college level he's even more pro-business, endorsing CEO Bill Heavener, CEO of Full Sail Univ in Florida for "holding down the cost of education," when in fact Full Sail costs twice as much as any good public school. Oh, did I mention that Heavener is vice chair of Romney's FL fundraising team, and Full Sail has contributed at least $200K to Mitt's campaign? Funny how that works... The for-profit schools, mostly owned by Wall Street private-quiety firms, are contributing tons of cash to Romney because he'd do away with the few remaining regulations left.

    stay together / learn the flowers / go light - Gary Snyder

    by Mother Mags on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 07:04:54 AM PDT

  •  mass schools are better (2+ / 0-)
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    because romney is a distant memory in mass, after this election he will be a distant memory in natl politics.

  •  scars (1+ / 0-)
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    Racial bigotry leaves scars-- and that shows up in school ratings--student test scores.  As a rule, I imagine that predominantly white schools outscore predominantly black schools.  That is not coincidental, it is an inconvenient truth that the left and the right ignore.  States with higher numbers of minority students always seem to have bad teachers--it's as if Al Shanker invented racial discrimination.

    Apres Bush, le deluge.

    by melvynny on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 07:30:34 AM PDT

  •  Detroit schools have just added (1+ / 0-)
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    Tell It Like Romney to their course curriculum.

    The Education Board discovered this subject quite accidentally as they watched Romney take credit for stuff he didn't do.  

    The 101 course content includes
    1. How to lie
    2. How to lie about the first lie
    3. How to state the lie differently to a different audience
    4. How to "zing" a lie
    5. How to re-re-re-re-repeat the lie till folks think it originated in China.

    Detroit Schools are very hopeful this will improve Test Scores.

    Just a small-minded 'merican that wants to see the Romney 2009 FBAR

    by griz4u on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 07:35:42 AM PDT

  •  As a proud alum (6+ / 0-)

    with 3 degrees (one an Honorary Doctor of Humane Letters) from Fitchburg State University (was "College" when I was there), I can tell you that of all the things Romney did as Governor, the one that BURNED me the most was the way he attacked a superb state college system.

    He sells snake-oil.

  •  Not screw up... Beg to differ (9+ / 0-)

    As a School Committee member of a small MA city since 2001, Romney holds a special place in our hearts. During 2004, he kept a little secret from school districts- 20% cuts in chapter 70 (education funding). After communities had already done their budget processes, and approved budgets with estimates in state revenue, he simply didn't send out the last Chap 70 check for the FY. The net was that over the next two years, my city lost all of it's state subsidy for transportation (a cost that was shifted to the city); over the next two years, we laid off 15% of our workforce- we lost an entire generation of teachers; we closed a school and consolidated an elementary school and a middle school. At the same time he shifted the burden to communities to fill in the Chapter 70 cuts, he also cut local aid.  

    There was an explosion of charter schools in MA under Governor Romney- regardless of how you feel about charter schools, they are funded directly through the existing budgets of school systems- when you get your chapter 70 check, before you ever see it, the charter school gets it's cut- which is the full freight for tuition- when kids transfer into a school system, the sending system coughs up $5,000.  When the charter school admits a student from your district anywhere from $11,000- 14,000 per student is deducted from your chapter 70. You want some Romney math?  My system, which costs $24,000,000 to run, gets a chapter 70 check of $3,000,000 from the state. Before we ever see that money, the charter gets $1,700,000 dollars of it to educate 200 kids; leaving the balance of the money, $1,300,000, to educate the remaining 2,200 kids.

    Governor Romney drove a generation of teachers out of the schools. I don't know how many kids were hurt or killed walking to school because the state bailed on subsidizing buses. Schools all over MA started charging families to have their kids play sports.  
    Romney was directing traffic at the exact spot where a free public education in MA become a free, with an average of $500 per year per kid if you took a bus and played a sport.  

    The list goes on.

    Let's hope that monument to mendacity does not.  

    "When you're skating on thin ice, you might as well dance." Jesse Winchester

    by The Poet Deploreate on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 08:18:18 AM PDT

  •  when I looked at his first released tax return (1+ / 0-)
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    I noticed a contribution to Belmont Hill School that his sons attended.

    They also attended the  Belmont MA public schools.

    I did not see a contribution to the Belmont Education Foundation that supports public education in Belmont.  

  •  As a diary here yesterday (7+ / 0-)

    pointed out, under Romney tuition costs skyrocketed:

    According to the Boston Globe, fees and tuition jumped 63 percent at Massachusetts’ once-stellar system of public higher education from 2003 to 2007, as Romney slashed state funding year after year, for a total of $140 million, or 14 percent, in four years. Not surprisingly, average student debt in Massachusetts jumped 25 percent while Romney was governor. Between 2001 and 2011, tuition and fees have more than doubled at the state’s community colleges, state university and UMass campuses, but the bulk of the added burden piled up under Romney.
    As usual, Romney takes credit for things he never did and denies those things he did do.

    Isn’t it ironic to think that man might determine his own future by something so seemingly trivial as the choice of an insect spray. ~ Rachel Carson, Silent Spring ~

    by MA Liberal on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 08:34:52 AM PDT

  •  Willard didn't brag about "big ditch" disaster? (2+ / 0-)
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    That kept sucking cash stupidly while he "governed."  What? Not so proud of that?   Or did he retroactively resign from his part in that mess?

    He and Ryan are earning an Olympic medal in lying.  Hitler ran a great Olympic propaganda show too.  Did not qualify EITHER to govern well.

    Keep Mitts off Big Bird.  
    Don't Pluck Big Bird.  
    Mitt wants to pluck early childhood education to feather Wall St. nests.
    Tots vs. Yachts --- should be no brainer.

    Dear Mitt ---  Why don't you invest Cayman cash in US treasury bonds?  Patriots invest in America.  Millions here, millions there, and pretty soon you are talking real money  ---- better to owe it to our citizens instead of borrowing from China.  Your country or your cash --- what matters more?   Bring our tax dollars home.

    De fund + de bunk = de EXIT--->>>>>

    by Neon Mama on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 08:58:00 AM PDT

    •  The "Big Dig" not "Ditch" (0+ / 0-)

      Yeah, my late lifelong Bostonian Dad had some choice words about that one, too.  For years I heard him railing about it!  

      Though I'm not sure that was Romney so much as the City of Boston?

      Oh how I wish he here to dissect the Romney debate!  At 91 he still could parse an argument.  And get riled up by Republicans!  He died during the very short period between Newt Gingrich being in the lead (which upset him in the hospital!) and the no-man's land before the GOP threw up their hands and realized it had to be Romney.

      Losing the Greatest Generation will be a big wound to our nation.  Sure, some of them were old school racists.  But many of them - the depression-era survivors thankful to FDR and the WWII vets whose lives changed because of the GI Bill - learned to call bullshit when they saw it.

      "When a man tells you that he got rich through hard work, ask him: 'Whose?' Don Marquis

      by hopesprings on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 10:47:31 AM PDT

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      •  Thanx for edit. I watched from Fla. (1+ / 0-)
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        I know Mitt didn't start the digsaster -- but Obama didn't start the great recession.    Can't claim credit for good without also shouldering blame for flaws.

        Can't baptize dead people.  Can't use wayback machine to pay state taxes in Utah while retroactively retired from Bain outsourcing.  Then claim your "residence" was Mass in son's basement and buttress it by also claiming you still "worked" in Mass. running Bain while it was outsourcing those jobs.

        It is one of those gander sauce thingies.   Make Mitt show us his papers --- so we know what tax "loopholes" he WILL NOT CLOSE.

        De fund + de bunk = de EXIT--->>>>>

        by Neon Mama on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 11:00:07 AM PDT

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      •   Thanx for edit. Mitt didn't start it, but Obama (1+ / 0-)
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        didn't start Bu$co trickle down recession either.   Gander sauce.

        Even Bush the Elder named it Voodoo Economics -- before he got the veep spot --->  yet they refuse to take credit for the results of their magic math mittMoney failures.   It does NOT work.

        Show us your loopholes rMoney.

        De fund + de bunk = de EXIT--->>>>>

        by Neon Mama on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 11:08:57 AM PDT

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  •  "Mitt DIDN'T build that!" (0+ / 0-)
    But that achievement is largely credited to the state’s 1993 landmark education reform law that poured billions of dollars into schools, set academic standards, and spawned the standardized testing that Romney fiercely guarded

    "Push the button, Max!" Jack Lemmon as Professor Fate, The Great Race

    by bartcopfan on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 09:33:37 AM PDT

  •  The Big Dig - executive competency (1+ / 0-)
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    Another MA resident chiming in. While I agree about Romney's shots on education, what frosts me the most was the GOP neglect of the Big Dig. It tore up the city of Boston and could not be ignored except by those officials, three administrations, who literally refused to look outside their windows at the waste and pilfering going on. Over runs- no one cared. Faulty materials- who would ever bother to check?

    A $5 taxi ride would have gotten the governor on site, but that famed executive was too busy running for President to bother.

    Conservation is green energy

    by peggy on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 09:37:50 AM PDT

  •  I grew up going to Mass. public schools... (1+ / 0-)
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    SlowNomad

    ...I graduated public high school in 1979 (granted, in a fairly wealthy suburb)...and had a better education going into college than many of my peers who had come from famous private institutions.  

    Massachusetts schools always set a high standard, and I seem to recall our schools being ranked #1 when I was in them.

    Someone more knowledgable than me can confirm or deny this.

    "When a man tells you that he got rich through hard work, ask him: 'Whose?' Don Marquis

    by hopesprings on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 10:29:13 AM PDT

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