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It appears that former Republican presidential candidate Jon Huntsman Jr's father, Jon Huntsman Sr., has endorsed Democratic Congressman Jim Matheson for re-election.  I'm not sure what this means or if Huntsman Sr. happens to be close friends with Jim Matheson.  However, I would imagine this gives Matheson a bit of a boost in his campaign as he's in a competitive race against Saratoga Springs Mayor Mia Love.  

Jon Huntsman Sr. is a very wealthy businessman (richer than even Mitt Romney) who has had a long history in the state of Utah, particularly with regards to business community.  In addition, the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School of Business has a building named the Jon M. Huntsman Hall.  In addition, Huntsman Sr. recently put his ski house on the market for $49.5 million!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/...

Here's an interesting bit of information:  Jim Matheson's brother, Scott Matheson Jr. lost to Jon Huntsman Jr. in the 2004 Utah Gubernatorial race.

Some info from the Salt Lake City Tribute:

http://www.sltrib.com/...

"The Matheson and Huntsman families have enjoyed three generations of respected association," Huntsman said in the prepared statement. "[Rep. Jim Matheson] is a conservative ‘Blue Dog’ congressional leader from Utah who represents our state very well."

Matheson, a six-term incumbent, is running in Utah’s new 4th Congressional District against Saratoga Springs Mayor Mia Love.

The congressman praised Huntsman’s "remarkable legacy of public service."

"My family and his family have long shared the values of giving back to the community and working in a bipartisan way to solve problems and achieve progress. I am very proud to have his endorsement in my congressional race."

In addition, more of the Huntsman family has endorsed Jim Matheson:
David Huntsman, son of Jon Huntsman Sr. and president and CEO of the Huntsman Cancer Foundation, also endorsed Matheson.

Abby Huntsman, the former governor’s daughter and a political commentator at Huffingtonpost.com, tweeted Friday: "I’m in too! This country needs more bipartisanship."

Now Jon Huntsman Jr. himself has not been listed as endorsing Jim Matheson yet although I really wouldn't be surprised if he did.  Huntsman Jr. has not been pleased with the state of the Republican Party these days, was booted out of a fundraiser earlier this year and did not attend the GOP National Convention.  Mia Love represents a contradiction to many things Huntsman Jr. stands for whereas Jim Matheson fits more in line with Huntsman's views (even though I find Huntsman Jr. more appealing than Matheson).  I mean, yes, Love really likes the Ghostbusters films but then again, who doesn't?

Now I know what you're thinking:  Matheson didn't vote for the Affordable Healthcare Act.  We shouldn't support a moderate conservative/blue dog Democrat like him.  On the other hand, Mia Love is even more conservative and narrow minded than Matheson is.  Given that Utah is one of the top five reddest states in the U.S., the Democrats are lucky to have even one Congressman of their own in the state.  Comparing Matheson to Love, Matheson is the more reasonable of the two and would be more bipartisan.

Therefore, I suggest donating to Jim Matheson's campaign:

https://services.myngp.com/...

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Would you rather have Mia Love than Jim Matheson in Congress?

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  •  Good news. All things considered, (11+ / 0-)

    we're better off with Jim Matheson in UT-04 than "rising star" Mia Love. Huntsman Sr. is well thought of in Utah, which is more moderate than most people realize.

    Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism.

    by Zutroy on Sun Oct 07, 2012 at 02:56:09 PM PDT

    •  Jon Huntsman Sr. has compassion as well (8+ / 0-)

      I read that Jon Huntsman Sr. has been very generous in support for the homeless community.

      •  While that may be true, I think his endorsement (0+ / 0-)

        might have had something to do with Mia Love's race and gender. I just feel that those old Mormon ideas don't leave you that easily.

        •  Race and gender, I don't imagine, are a factor (2+ / 0-)
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          The Mormon community is more accepting to those of race and gender now than before.  My mother, who grew up in Ogden and to a family whose history dates back to the first groups of settlers that founded Utah, says the reason why Mormons have reached out to minorities is because of membership.  The Mormon community's membership for a period of time declined but when they started to reach out to those in the Hispanic, Black and other minority communities, the community was able to increase the membership.  Now I'm not speaking for myself.  Only for my mother.

          Mia Love on the other hand is probably not being supported by Jon Huntsman Sr. and family because what she wants to accomplish in Congress and her political views are completely contradictory towards what a number of Mormons believe in.  Love also leans more toward the Tea Party perspective and I don't think a lot of Mormons really like a lot of Tea Party Republicans, particularly those who are Tea Party Mormons.

          •  I don't know, Huntsman is not that young and his (0+ / 0-)

            Dad is older, I still think he was brought up in the Morman church with these beliefs and it is not that easy for him to change them. I have nothing against the man or the Mormon community, I just beleive sometimes older folks are very set in their ways. I could be very wrong, it is just my opinion.

            •  For older folks, it's a mixed bag (2+ / 0-)
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              For a long time, Utah was a predominately white populated state.  A number of people who lived in communities in places like Ogden (where my mother grew up) had little exposure to people of ethnicity.  My mother grew up with this and was a bit shell shocked when she came to California, seeing more black people and other people with different ethnicity than before.  My mom only saw black people on TV prior to leaving Utah and since she's lived in California, she's gotten away from the secluded life in Ogden.  Ogden these days isn't as secluded as it used to be although by the community by all means is no Chicago suburbs or a rural community in Texas.

              My late grandmother on the other hand was a nice woman and she wasn't as intolerant as other Mormons during her era (early to mid 20th century) towards race.  However, when Hispanics migrated to Ogden (as they've done with other areas of the state), I believe they created a rift within the Mormon community.  My late grandmother once that when she grew up, all the lawns in the neighborhoods nearby were kept up, green and nice to look at.  However, she then was fiercely racist when the Hispanics started to enter the community and mentioned that they did not keep up in maintaining their lawns and planting new seeds.  Somehow to her, she believed in being principled and making the community nice to live in and didn't believe Hispanics were doing a good job at that.  This really angered my father and even made my mother become so uncomfortable, she challenged my grandmother (her mother) on this.

              One thing that's important to know is that there are two types of Mormons:  

              1) Traditional

              and

              2)  Fundamentalist (much like Warren Jeffs and the sect he led and organized before he went to prison)

              Traditional Mormons do participate in government and get involved in U.S. affairs but they tend to believe in smaller government for the most part.  Nowadays, they are open-minded to anyone joining, even if they convert later on in their years (like Glenn Beck has).  Racial tolerance is more prominent these days and there are more mixed race members of the church than before.  Traditional Mormons also care a great deal about helping others in need and sticking together in community, particularly the homeless.  Jon Huntsman Sr. falls into this category so it's not a surprise for him.  Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Senator Tom Udall (also Mormon) are traditional Mormons as well although they also believe in a bigger role for the federal government.

              Fundamentalist Mormons do not participate in government and are secluded to the point where they don't want the outside world to influence anyone.  Their tolerance level is so low and their convictions so fierce.  They don't want any media covering them and they're very sensitive when people debate or even challenge them.  They make Tea Party Republicans look sane.  That's how crazy they are.  Even Sean Hannity and other conservatives think fundamentalists are nuts.

              •  Maybe I am wrong about Mr. Huntsman, I am (0+ / 0-)

                basing my opinion on my own personal experience. I was raised as a Catholic, another "cult" like religion, and I know some elder Catholics who are so tied to the oldtime religious dogma, and it is hard for them to change the way they think or act. I find that frustrating to say the least, but I do understand it, and try not to judge them for it. I hope I didn't sound like I was judging the elder Mr. Hunstman or any elder Mormons, it is what they were raised beleiveing and sometimes it is difficult to accept new ways. It is similar to really old Southerners who still appear to be racist, it is difficult for them to unlearn what they have learned, and they don't consider themselves racist at all.

                •  No offense taken (0+ / 0-)

                  I'm not even a Mormon myself and don't get offended when people criticize this form of Christianity.  In fact, my late grandmother, a staunchly conservative Mormon, rebelled against the community as it was being too restrictive on her ability to raise and allow her children (my mom, aunt and uncle) to able to think for themselves.  Although she was a popular one in the Mormon community in Ogden, she still believed that my mom deserved better.  If you ask my mother anything about Mormons, she won't hesitate to point out the positives and the negatives.  In fact, she'll point out more negatives than positives.

                  Now one thing I take issue with is if people say Mormons don't have empathy.  They actually do.  It's just that their values are very principled and dear to their heart and they're very protective of their community.  Mormons do a lot of good and contribute a lot to their community, particularly with charity and supporting the needy.   All the men are clean cut.  All the people believe in healthy lives and that's why you don't see Mormons smoke or drink.

                  •  I had a good friend who was a Mormon about 20 year (0+ / 0-)

                    ago, and she did drink , however, it might have just been  form of rebellion. I don't think "all" things apply to "all" people "all" the time.  I don't find Mitt Romney's lies very Christian at all. However, I admit, I don't know that much about the Mormon religion, so perhaps they don't abide by the same 10 commandments that other Christians do. They clearly state, that lying is a sin.

                    •  With Mitt Romney's lies, he's still VERY Mormon (0+ / 0-)

                      My mother knows Mormons when she sees them and she believes Romney is very Mormon indeed.  Mormons don't cheat and they're definitely big on family, which isn't a surprise with Romney considering he's got quite a large family of sons and grandsons and granddaughters.

  •  I support Blue Dogs in red districts (15+ / 0-)

    if, for no other reason than that it may make the difference in which party controls the House. It also keeps a Republican from gaining higher office.

    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

    by NMDad on Sun Oct 07, 2012 at 03:04:39 PM PDT

  •  we're big tent (9+ / 0-)

    and when the Republican party dies, there will need to be some opposition.  The blue dogs will be the old Republican party.  

    reelect the president

    by anna shane on Sun Oct 07, 2012 at 03:05:13 PM PDT

  •  Mia = Allan West (7+ / 0-)

    Its all one needs to know.

    She seems to have perfected faking wingnut street creds

  •  abby huntsman (2+ / 0-)
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    one of jon jr's daughter, also tweeted an endorsement to matheson.  

    mia love is f-ing crazy.  sarah palin word salad with bonus female black lds immigrant shine.  

    but jim matheson is no friend of mine.  still better for the state and people in general to have him.  for the speaker vote, if he'll toe the line on that.  

    Ted Kennedy: “The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die…”

    by jlms qkw on Sun Oct 07, 2012 at 04:02:26 PM PDT

  •  Matheson represents me, but he's far from a (6+ / 0-)

    favorite of mine. As for Mia Love, she wants to take the feds out of student loans, etc., etc. so ay least it's still a nobrainer between the two of them.

    But I mainly write to say that if you prefer Gov. Huntsman to Matheson, it's likely becuase you don't really know him. He passed tax "reform" that increased my taxes by 30% and lowered his own, and was campaigning in the Primary to do the same for the feds.

    There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

    by oldpotsmuggler on Sun Oct 07, 2012 at 04:12:06 PM PDT

    •  Jon Huntsman is more liberal than Jim Matheson (3+ / 0-)

      Former Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson (the most anti-war, outspoken Mayor in the U.S. during the Bush administration and a disaffected Democrat) did a comparison between him and Jon Huntsman Jr.  As it turns out, while there are a number of differences between Anderson and Huntsman (and the fact that both of them are Mormon), they aren't completely different when it comes to social views.  Both are very pro gay rights (Huntsman hasn’t quite supported gay marriage yet but he supports civil unions).

      I’ll put it this way:  On social issues, I think Jon Huntsman Jr. has a better record than Matheson, particularly when it comes to gay rights.  Matheson voted for the constitutional amendment in the House banning same-sex marriage.  Huntsman is also more experienced in foreign policy than Matheson.  

      However, Bill Maher made a point that Huntsman believes in the same trickle-down economics that Mitt Romney and other Republicans believe in.  That is a red flag for me because I cannot support a candidate who runs for president who believes in old economic theories that didn’t advance the economy at large.  Therefore, if Jon Huntsman Jr. were the Republican Presidential nominee against Barack Obama, of course I’d vote for Obama in a heartbeat.

      That being said, as a loyal Democrat I would vote for Matheson if say Huntsman were to run against Matheson in a Congressional or Senatorial race.  However, I don’t live in Utah (based in the Bay Area, California).  I do have relatives on my mother’s side of the family who are staunch Mormons from Ogden but that’s a whole different story.

      http://www.isidewith.com/...

  •  It's Utah: We could do much, much worse. n/t (4+ / 0-)

    Repubs started up the car, hit the throttle and sent it over the cliff, and now they're complaining that the black guy hasn't fixed it fast enough.

    by Bush Bites on Sun Oct 07, 2012 at 04:57:07 PM PDT

  •  I would rather see a congressman who (2+ / 0-)
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    agreed with me 50% of the time than one who agreed with me 0% of the time.

    Here in WV there are progressives who say that they will never vote for Joe Manchin. I don't usually vote for him in the primary, but in the general I am not going to take a chance that a batshit insane clown like Raese is going to be my senator.

  •  We need more non-Blue Dog Democrats (3+ / 0-)
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    Yes, I fully agree, in a place as red as Utah, a Blue Dog Dem is a win for us. However, we need to have enough progressive Dems to get things done in spite of them. Until we do, those Blue Dogs are an accident waiting to happen.

    •  There's Pete Ashdown. He's not a blue dog. (3+ / 0-)
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      Pete Ashdown, founder of XMission, is more liberal than most Democrats in Utah from what I understand.  He's run the company since he founded it in 1993 and has run against U.S. Senator Orrin Hatch in 2006 with no support from the Democratic Party.  His support level was quite strong in that campaign, considering he had a major uphill battle against Hatch and lost the race to him in the general election.

      Ashdown is very strong with regards to the issue on internet matters and is very knowledgeable on IT technology.  He may even be a better spokesman on matters like this than anyone in Congress.

  •  She can't even run a suburb (2+ / 0-)
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    Maybe this storm was a bigger deal in Saratoga Springs.

    I live in West Jordan and it didn't do much here.

    But Mia Love's city was not prepared for a storm.

  •  Re this: (0+ / 0-)
    Now Jon Huntsman Jr. himself has not been listed as endorsing Jim Matheson yet although I really wouldn't be surprised if he did.
    He already said that Mitt had his support.

    You might want to update the diary.

    202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

    by cany on Sun Oct 07, 2012 at 06:41:23 PM PDT

    •  No need to update the diary (3+ / 0-)
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      I'm well aware that Jon Huntsman Jr. supports Mitt Romney's campaign although he is not an active campaigner by any means.  Huntsman may believe like any Republicans that Romney is right because he's got a business background.  Aside from this, the fact that Huntsman is a loyal Republican when it comes to presidential elections, and the fact that Romney is a Mormon, I do not see any other reason why Huntsman is a supporter.  In fact, he's even criticized Romney's foreign policy stance, particularly when it comes to China.

      Huntsman also is in kind of a tricky situation because he was the U.S. Ambassador to China for over a year in the Obama administration and his daughters HATE Romney with a passion.

      Now with regards to the Huntsman/Matheson relationship, it's quite possible the Huntsmans and the Mathesons are close with each other.  I don't know as much about them as say others do in Utah.

      •  He was on Colbert in August . . . (1+ / 0-)
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        during the GOP convention.  The impression that I had was that he endorsed Romney largely to preserve his options within the GOP.  He did not attend the GOP convention -- I believe he was the only GOP presidential candidate not to attend.

        Have to wonder if there isn't a bit of a competitive rivalry between Romney and Huntsman too.  e.g. so the disagreements have a personal dimension to them, it's not just a question of policy differences.

        •  There's been a rivalry between them from the getgo (0+ / 0-)

          To my understanding, Jon Huntsman Jr. was very successful as a businessman, much like his father and so  it seemed natural for Huntsman Jr. to head the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics.  However, Salt Lake Organizing Committee Chairman Robert Garff was a friend of Mitt Romney since he was young and naturally selected Romney to lead the Olympics.  Garff claimed Romney had a distinguished background as a businessman but so did Huntsman Jr.

          http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

          If you watch You Tube clips of the 2012 Republican Primary debates, you'll find that Huntsman and Romney aren't exactly the type of people who get along with each other.  When Huntsman was talking about foreign policy, Romney gave an answer that showed how much of a low attention span he had that Huntsman immediately shot back at Romney, "Did you hear what I just said?"

          Huntsman Jr. has been asked by a number of reporters and news anchors how much does he communicate with Romney.  He'll mention they never talk to each other and he never goes into detail.

  •  Matheson is deeply disappointing. (0+ / 0-)

    And when I say deeply - he voted against Obamacare.

    I am not voting for Mia.

    I've lived in Utah for 22 years (from California and originally from Wisconsin).

    I do not get Democrats that vote like Republicans.

    I may sit this one out.

    •  His vote wasn't critical . . . (1+ / 0-)
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      on the ACA.  However, his presence in the House was, as it was one more seat that helped to ensure Democratic control of the chamber.  Hopefully you hold your nose and vote, understanding that his seat could be the difference between Dem control of the House and GOP control.  His individual votes matter, but a guy who votes with the party 50 percent of the time is still better than someone who never votes with the party.  Especially true when there isn't a more viable progressive option.

    •  Two words: (0+ / 0-)

      Speaker Pelosi.  Go vote for the blue dog! He may be the deciding vote for speaker, if not on other issues.

      The bottom 1% are the most egregious victims of Wall Street's class war. We 99% must not abandon them.

      by NM Ward Chair on Mon Oct 08, 2012 at 04:09:44 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Blue dogs in Red district OK, but not in purple 1s (3+ / 0-)
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    -1.63/ -1.49 "Speaking truth to power" (with snark of course)!

    by dopper0189 on Sun Oct 07, 2012 at 09:17:58 PM PDT

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