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Realclear is a liar!!


Gallup is clearly at fault for their little polling games but Realclear has taken lies and deception to another level.

They dropped the legitimate current poll of Obama +5 in exchange for the Obama tied poll that never was.  

They lied again in with this notation:

*Gallup released two tracking poll results on October 8. The more recent results (reflecting post-debate interviews) are included in the RCP National Average.
Well, that's a lie too because the most recent result in from 10/7 not 10/6.

They are liars and we need to let them know it!!!

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  •  You should really highlight the RCP General... (4+ / 0-)

    ... Election match-up page.

    There, RCP is exclusively using the 47-47 number and representing it as the "Gallup Tracking" number and then claiming the 47-47 is "the most recent results."

    No, RCP, you lying sacks of shit, the "most recent results" are from today's actual Gallup Daily Tracking poll that has Obama up 50-45.

    RCP is lying. Just flat out lying...

    •  And I think they do this to encourage people to (2+ / 0-)
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      continue giving money to Rmoney, to not get into despair and quit forking over money they should be using for themselves.

      And to keep Rmoney happy because we know repubs don't like facts that are incongruent with their distorted worldview

      The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

      by xxdr zombiexx on Mon Oct 08, 2012 at 11:53:23 AM PDT

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  •  RealClear.....FairBalance (0+ / 0-)

    My gut response is to associate them with ClearChannel Broadcasting, a rightwing collective controlling a huge number of radio stations

    RealClear is a perfect republican name when you JUST KNOW its messgae will be anything but real or clear.

    The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

    by xxdr zombiexx on Mon Oct 08, 2012 at 11:48:27 AM PDT

  •  You address a confusion I've been trying to figure (1+ / 0-)
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    out for the last 15 minutes or so.  Someone recently posted the Gallup poll showing Obama us 5% among registered voters, which directly contradicted what I had just read the RCP summaries showing a tie, so figured it must be a likely voter - registered voter confusion.

    So clicking the link on the RCP 47% tie linked in the head to head averages I found the tab but the tab showing this 47% tie were of polls of the three days after the debate ending Saturday.  This documents a 5% post debate Romney debate bounce.

    But, see no data for Sunday, or Today.  I could not even find a likely voter database so I haven't been able to find, yet, evidence for the averages as of Saturday.

    We need to have reliable data and reports.  Reporting an undocumented average on Saturday, as if it is a new polls today, is misleading, at best.

    The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

    by HoundDog on Mon Oct 08, 2012 at 11:52:39 AM PDT

    •  Here's a link to the problematic Pseudo "New Poll" (0+ / 0-)


      And, this is purportedly registered voters.  So, is the earlier report of Obama leading by 5% today a 5% improvement in one day?    

      Their daily tracker shows Obama ahead over these days, not tied as indicated in these polls.

      The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

      by HoundDog on Mon Oct 08, 2012 at 12:03:50 PM PDT

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  •  I sent them an email (1+ / 0-)
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    I explained that they were confused between a new poll and a break down of a the data of an older poll.  However, I'm sure they'll not exactly rush to fix.

    But in the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope.

    by thezzyzx on Mon Oct 08, 2012 at 11:54:31 AM PDT

  •  Not only that, but they chose to include the NBC (1+ / 0-)
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    poll (O +3) in the average, but dropped the NPR poll (O +7) that was conducted during the same damn time period (9/26 - 9/30)! Also, while I definitely don't trust Zogby or the WaTimes for crap, they dropped their joint poll (O +9) that has interviews conducted AFTER the start date of the NBC poll (9/27). I don't get it. Oh yes I do, it's owned by Steve Forbes.

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