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As slinkerwink has noted, just when you thought Romney's Thurston/Burns app patch had been replaced with a #ModeratMitt download, apparently he had back out of that OS revision.  Mitt the Clueless Dick has returned.

During a Wednesday interview with the Columbus Dispatch, the former Massachusetts governor said he would give people a window of time to make a “choice” to buy insurance — even if they had pre-existing conditions.

And for those who didn’t make the “choice” to pay for coverage and got sick anyway, “Romney minimized the harm,” according to the paper.

“We don’t have a setting across this country where if you don’t have insurance, we just say to you, ‘Tough luck, you’re going to die when you have your heart attack,’” he explained. “No, you go to the hospital, you get treated, you get care, and it’s paid for, either by charity, the government or by the hospital.”

We don’t have people that become ill, who die in their apartment because they don’t have insurance.

What part of showing up at the Hospital on the edge of death with a treatable disease, and then only lingering for a few more hours or days doesn't this guy understand? Do people die in their apartment because they don't have insurance?

No, some of them die on the Emergency Room Floor while waiting to see a doctor.

People like this woman.

NEW YORK (CNN) -- A 49-year-old woman collapsed and died on the floor of a waiting room at a Brooklyn psychiatric hospital and lay there for more than an hour as employees ignored her, according to the New York Civil Liberties Union, which on Tuesday released surveillance camera video of the incident.
And this one...

LOS ANGELES  — A woman who lay bleeding on the emergency room floor of a troubled inner-city hospital died after 911 dispatchers refused to contact paramedics or an ambulance to take her to another facility, newly released tapes of the emergency calls reveal.

Edith Isabel Rodriguez, 43, died of a perforated bowel on May 9 at Martin Luther King Jr.-Harbor Hospital. Her death was ruled accidental by the Los Angeles County coroner’s office.

Relatives said Rodriguez was bleeding from the mouth and writhing in pain for 45 minutes while she was at a hospital waiting area. Experts have said she could have survived had she been treated early enough.

Or this one...
NEW YORK — A woman who died unnoticed on a hospital floor in an upsetting scene recorded by security cameras was killed by blood clots caused by a long period of physical inactivity, according to the city's medical examiner.

Esmin Green, 49, had been sitting in a waiting room at the city-owned Kings County Hospital Center for nearly 24 hours when she collapsed from her chair and slowly died on June 19.

She lay on the floor at the Brooklyn hospital for an hour before a nurse finally checked her pulse.

After an autopsy and weeks of tests, the medical examiner's office concluded Friday that Green was killed by pulmonary thromboemboli, blood clots that form in the legs and travel through the bloodstream to the lungs.

And then there was Joe Soptic and his wife who finally went to the Emergency Room where she discovered she had already contracted Stage 4 Cancer, at which point there was 'Nothing they could do" for her.  She died 22 days later.

I don't think Mitt Romney Understands... I don't think he's concerned...
I don't think so either.

No, people aren't "dying in their apartments" who don't have health care -they can - in theory - go the Emergency Room and then simply Die There, or shortly after.

3 Years ago Harvard Released a study indicating that 45,000 people per year die from lack of insurance.

(Reuters) - Nearly 45,000 people die in the United States each year -- one every 12 minutes -- in large part because they lack health insurance and can not get good care, Harvard Medical School researchers found in an analysis released on Thursday.

"We're losing more Americans every day because of inaction ... than drunk driving and homicide combined," Dr. David Himmelstein, a co-author of the study and an associate professor of medicine at Harvard, said in an interview with Reuters.

Overall, researchers said American adults age 64 and younger who lack health insurance have a 40 percent higher risk of death than those who have coverage.

Republicans have discounted and ignored this study because how could it be that more people are dying prematurely from lack of preventive care than are killed by drunk drivers (10,839 in 2009) or by homicide (12,996), and no one notices?

When Dr. Himmelstein says the amount of dead from lack of insurance is greater than the number of those killed by drunk drivers and by murder combined he's absolutely correct by a factor of 2:1

Ok, so Republicans say that can't be right, what other sources do we have for this information?  Well, there's another report that says that "just" 26,000 Die Every Year from Lack of Insurance. Isn't that more comforting?

A national health care consumer advocacy group estimates that three Americans die every hour as a result of not having health insurance.  

According to "Dying for Coverage," the latest report by Families USA, 72 Americans die each day, 500 Americans die every week and approximately Americans 2,175 die each month, due to lack of health insurance.

The report found that the reasons for being uninsured varied, but many of those without health insurance had coverage denied because of pre-existing conditions.  Others have been priced out of the market on the heels of a failing economy - a time when keeping their homes and feeding their families took precedence over holding on to insurance in the face of rising premiums. And some lost their benefits when employers stopped providing coverage.

According to Families USA between 2005 and 2010, premature deaths rose from 20,350 to 26,100. The total number during that time was 134,120.  Each state is affected, the organization said. Vermont had the fewest deaths with 28 while California had the most – 3,164, according to this report.

Even with this lower estimate, the total is still greater than both the number of people killed by drunk drivers and murder combined.

It's also greater than what Mitt Romney thinks by approximately A Shit Load to 0.

Clearly we can see how hard he would work as President to alleviate this problem.

Not very damn hard at all.


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  •  romney has said this a lot (3+ / 0-)
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    several times.  it may well be the one position he's actually articulated and stuck to.  why is it suddenly hot news?

    Die with your boots on. If you're gonna try, well stick around. Gonna cry? Just move along. The truth of all predictions is always in your hands. - Iron Maiden

    by Cedwyn on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 06:31:22 AM PDT

    •  I think we need to keep making it news (6+ / 0-)

      It speaks to his supposed expertise as a businessman and cost-cutter that he thinks emergency room treatment is any answer to our soaring health care costs.
      Anyone who has spent a few nights in an Emergency waiting room and then hears Mitt Romney suggest it as a substitute for a primary care doctor--why would they vote for him?
      If Romney/Ryan win, there will be real and deleterious consequences for most Americans. Repealing the ACA and forcing people into emergency room care will be one of them.

      To keep our faces turned toward change, and behave as free spirits in the presence of fate--that is strength undefeatable. (Helen Keller)

      by kareylou on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 07:13:41 AM PDT

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      •  repeal is a complete non-starter, though (2+ / 0-)
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        that just ain't gonna happen.  the most the GOP can dream of is not funding it properly.

        Die with your boots on. If you're gonna try, well stick around. Gonna cry? Just move along. The truth of all predictions is always in your hands. - Iron Maiden

        by Cedwyn on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 07:28:07 AM PDT

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        •  I can't quite imagine (2+ / 0-)
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          the scenario in which the man who pledged to repeal the act is tasked with overseeing its implementation. What a fiasco that would be. I am counting on being able to purchase insurance on an exchange in 2014, and I know I'm not alone.
          You're right, they would probably just let it wither on the vine.  

          To keep our faces turned toward change, and behave as free spirits in the presence of fate--that is strength undefeatable. (Helen Keller)

          by kareylou on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 07:33:46 AM PDT

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        •  Even if it won't happen... (0+ / 0-)

 doesn't mean that it's not a potent point to use against him.

          Romney just said that he'd want something incredible horrible to be policy.  Even if he won't succeed in that goal, we should be talking about that.

          But in the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope.

          by thezzyzx on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 07:48:02 AM PDT

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          •  he didn't "just" say it; he's said it a lot (0+ / 0-)

            for a while now.  hence the original comment.

            Die with your boots on. If you're gonna try, well stick around. Gonna cry? Just move along. The truth of all predictions is always in your hands. - Iron Maiden

            by Cedwyn on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 07:54:57 AM PDT

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    •  He said it a few weeks ago... (0+ / 0-)

      And, IIRC, he sorta, kinda, retracted it after his handlers realized how stupid it was.  Now he is at it again.  This is a HUGE opening for the Obama admin.

      Why is Mitt Rmoney so happy that an American embassy was attacked? Why does he hate America?

      by RichM on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 07:39:44 AM PDT

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  •  Listening to Romney on this is like watching (3+ / 0-)
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    a Fred Thompson infomercial, they both make my ears and eyes bleed and you feel the need to shower afterwards.

    "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room." - President Merkin Muffley

    by Farkletoo on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 06:32:12 AM PDT

  •  Jesus, this man is a truly worthless excuse for a (9+ / 0-)

    human. He has absolutely no clue what life outside of his billionaire bubble is like and what's even worse, he doesn't fucking care.

    Hopefully, between Joe tearing up little Mittens, Jr last night and the Obama campaign doing their magic with this latest atrocity will do Rmoney and his bump in for good.

    Thanks, Vyan

    "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice. We must put our hands on it and we must bend it in the direction of justice." MLK

    by mindara on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 06:33:22 AM PDT

  •  Great diary and one more thing that needs to (3+ / 0-)
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    nailed to rmoney on how damn clueless he is about the state of healthcare in this country.

    (::pssst!::  ::whispers:: you're first and third example are of the same situation/woman)

    "I'm not scared of anyone or anything, Angie. Isn't that the way life should be?" Jack Hawksmoor

    by skyounkin on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 06:33:59 AM PDT

  •  Excellent diary. Tipped & Rec'd. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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    Blackadder: Everything goes over your head, doesn't it, George? You should go to Jamaica and become a limbo dancer.

    by AuroraDawn on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 06:36:58 AM PDT

  •  In Romney's world (7+ / 0-)

    No one dies from not having health insurance because he doesn't know anyone in that position. His family and friends are very rich and have never had to face an injury or illness without coverage. He's out of touch and has no idea of the world most of us live in.

  •  When my wife was still alive, we went to ER's (5+ / 0-)
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    fairly often. She had several chronic illnesses, Crohn's, scoliosis and stenosis, and end-stage liver disease, and was in continuous pain. We have spent as much as 8 hours waiting in a hospital ER, and this in the largest hospital in our area.

    Romney is convinced he is correct in everything he thinks and based on his past, he has no concept that he could be wrong.

    IMO, he would be the worst president we ever had, making even W look better.

    And then there would be Ryan coming after him...


    Retired AFSCME Steward and union thug-licensed gun carrying progressive veteran.

    by old mark on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 06:44:04 AM PDT

  •  Instinct-driven people are literal thinkers, (2+ / 0-)
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    except when they resort to euphemisms to make things sound better than they are, because they are in denial.

    That no-one dies from a lack of health insurance is literally correct.  Indeed, everybody dies some day and nobody's life is permanently saved. But, that's not the issue.  The issue is that thousands of people die prematurely because of no medical care or inappropriate medical care or deficient medical care.  And, in some cases, the problem is simply one of a lack of money to pay for available and appropriate care in a timely fashion.
    And the real problem is that, for a societal perspective, if thousands of people are dying prematurely and in the prime of life from preventable and curable injury and disease, then society is suffering a needless loss and the waste of resources that could be better used.
    Juveniles killed in car crashes or suicide, troops killed in needless wars, women killed in child-birth or botched proceedures, men killed by heart attacks and stroke, and millions incapacitated by toxin-causing cancers are all a social waste and threaten the survival of civilization itself. The species will likely not go extinct, but as happened many times before, civilized humans will become extinct and humanity will have to start all over again.

    Instinct-driven predators that talk are not human beings as we know them. Speech is important for transmitting information, but in association with predation, it's highly over-rated. Using the faculty of speech to lie is lower than base.

    We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

    by hannah on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 06:45:36 AM PDT

  •  The Rich live longer, ask Oklahoma State (3+ / 0-)
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    T Boone Pickens came up with a gimmick to get OSU a lot of money. He had them buy life insurance on a number of their elderly alumni. According to Business Week, things did not work out:

    One morning in September 2007, billionaire oilman T. Boone Pickens and 27 men and women gathered in the lobby of Oklahoma State University’s Gallagher-Iba Arena to celebrate that they were all, one day, going to die. Three things united the orange-and-black-clad Cowboy fans: They all were more than 65 years old; they all loved their alma mater; and they all had passed a rigorous physical. “We’re partners in a deal,” Pickens, a graduate of the class of ’51, said once the chatter had died down. “It’s a good deal.”

    How good of a deal? "Each of the 28 partners had allowed the school to take out a $10 million insurance policy on his or her life, with the annual premiums to be paid by Oklahoma State."

    These folks did not die.

    And the 28 men and women who half a decade ago were considered safe bets to die sooner rather than later? All are still with us, not the least being Pickens himself. As Roy Scott (class of ’56) put it, the problem may have been as simple as picking the wrong people: “We just live too long, I guess.”

    At least Pickens picked up the tab for his hare-brained scheme, but he should have looked more closely at the actuarial tables. The poor die sooner. Poverty helps to kill.

    The GOP is the party of mammon. They mock what Jesus taught.

    by freelunch on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 06:45:55 AM PDT

  •  Drunk Drivers and Murder (0+ / 0-)

    There's a slogan waiting for a bumper sticker.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 06:45:59 AM PDT

  •  And people wonder why I get depressed (1+ / 0-)
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    or am hesitant to go to the Dr.

    It takes a tremendous amount of medical neglect to make people think the medical profession is only in it for the money.

    "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

    by Horace Boothroyd III on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 06:46:12 AM PDT

  •  Most heart attack sufferers who die (14+ / 0-)

    do so before they can even get to the hospital, which is why proper medical prevention and treatment of heart disease and conditions like diabetes that increase the risk of a heart attack are essential.

    I wish Mr Romney could meet my father, an uninsured legally blind man who died in bed at age 58 of a massive heart attack. Given that his father died of a diabetic-related heart attack at age 58, my father should have had regular monitoring for these conditions, but he could not afford it. He did not choose to take Medicare when he first went on to social security disability and decades later said the premiums were too expensive.

    I am sure they would not have let him die had he made it to the hospital. After all, my grandfather made it to one after his first heart attack, and they were more than happy to give him a quadruple bypass that bankrupted him before they wrote off the rest of the debt.

    I have what most people would consider to be fairly good insurance, for which we py high premiums. In fact, next year the company is only offering high deductible plans, with a $4800 per family deductible and 20% coincidence rates. That is going to make paying for my diabetes care very expensive.

    But nobody dies of inadequate medical care when they have insurance, right?

    Romney is so rich that he has no clue how people with no health insurance or no health insurance manage their medical needs. I do. They skip prescription refills and follow up visits. They wait to see whether injuries heal on their own or whether antacids will fix the chest pain. They do more damage to themselves by trying to relieve unabating pain with excessive doses of over the counter medications because they can't afford to find out what's causing the pain and even if they did find out, they could not afford to treat it.

    I spent almost my entire childhood without health insurance and with the most minimal health care. I broke my collarbone at age 7 and had to wait a week before my parents acknowledged the huge lump wasn't going away on it's own and took me to the doctor. I fell on rusty nails, which my stepmom cleaned with hydrogen peroxide instead of a tetanus shot and hoped for the best. When my little sister fell down the stairs and was listless, my parents took her to the ER, which refused to do x-rays and said it was probably the flu and sent our uninsured family home. The next day, when my stepmom took her back and refused to leave until they x-rayed her leg, she did finally get her broken leg treated, so Romney is right -- they didn't just let her die. But we did have to lose our house and take out loans to pay for it. It wasn't free.

    Then there are people like my boyfriend, who is out of work despite a master's degree and pays $250 a month for a crappy policy in case of an emergency. Meanwhile, his ankylosing spondylitis goes untreated and he lives in pain every day. But at least he's not dead, right?

    People die of insurance malpractice, and they die of lack of insurance. Many more just suffer, because the emergency room doesn't treat ankylosing spondylitis or herniated discs or bone spurs. But I guess Romney is ok with that, because it's nobody he hangs around with, is it?

    We Won't Let Republicans Replace Medicare with GOP Vouchercare!

    by CatM on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 06:56:15 AM PDT

  •  I'm currently unemployed and uninsured. (9+ / 0-)

    I've had ulcerative colitis for 48 years, putting me at high risk for colon cancer.

    So I should call 911, take an ambulance to the ER and ask them to schedule me for my semiannual colonoscopy.

    Isn't that right, Mitt?

    Trickle-down theory; the less than elegant metaphor that if one feeds the horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows. - J.K. Galbraith

    by Eric Twocents on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 07:04:00 AM PDT

  •  Two friends lost husbands (7+ / 0-)

    Due to not being able to afford health insurance. One died in their living room due to a massive heart attack and the other died after waiting until it was too late--a cancer diagnosis.

    These people really do not have a clue what the real world looks like, and even if they did--they wouldn't, and do not, care.

    Peace, Hope, Faith, Love

    by mapamp on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 07:04:47 AM PDT

  •  That video was very hard to watch. (4+ / 0-)
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        First, I just felt distress for that poor woman. No one should die alone on a waiting room floor with no company, no hand to hold. Second, she didn't even have to die, had she been treated in time. Third, there is the recognition that this could happen to me as a self-employed lower middle class American, should Obamacare be repealed. And finally, what bothered me was the frenzied mobilization of resources after hospital staff realized that someone had died on the floor. If that much attention had been paid while she was alive, she might have been watching the debate last night!
         It's entirely representative of our broken health care system--huge amounts of resources expended in ways that do not improve anyone's health. Too much, too late.
         The hospital staff is just being human under inhuman circumstances. The fault lies in the inhumane for-profit health care system that we are inexplicably so attached to in this country.

    To keep our faces turned toward change, and behave as free spirits in the presence of fate--that is strength undefeatable. (Helen Keller)

    by kareylou on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 07:08:20 AM PDT

  •  Do people know that the ER bankrupts you? (3+ / 0-)
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    Romney makes it seem like -- no problem, we don't let you die, you can go to the ER.  The government picks up the tab.

    He's smart enough to know that the government only picks up the tab when people can't afford to pay, and those people can lose their homes and/or file bankruptcy because of their ER bills.

    But I'll bet most people think the ER is free even if you can't afford it.

    Dems need to use this campaign as a "teachable moment."

    The GOP: "You can always go to the Emergency Room."

    by Upper West on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 07:27:27 AM PDT

    •  I remember during the health care debate in 2009 (1+ / 0-)
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      One of the Teabaggers was asked about this and they said you can just declare bankruptcy plus who remembers the repuke congressperson who told a woman at a town hall whose husband was on a feeding tube and couldn't afford his Ensure/Medications was told to go and beg her neighbors for money?

      Heartless Bastards

  •  Mitt on camera spewing this crap coupled to (1+ / 0-)
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    some of these clips/headlines would be an effective ad.

    Nice diary - thanks.

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    by nervousnellie on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 07:28:09 AM PDT

  •  No one he knows or cares about anyway (0+ / 0-)

    The only people Rmoney knows are owners. Owners get all the healthcare they need. Hell, they don't even need insurance, they pay cash.

    A society is judged by how well it cares for those in the dawn of life, the children. By how well it cares for those in the twilight of life, the elderly. And, by how well it cares for those on the edge of life; the poor, the sick, and the disabled.

    by BobBlueMass on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 07:37:45 AM PDT

  •  Who do you trust -- what I want Obama to say (0+ / 0-)

    I think it was on MSNBC, but the clip from FDR that is being played makes the argument that I sure hope Obama makes over the next two weeks.  Here it is:

    Who do you trust on making sure Social Security and Medicare will be there for you?  .  From their inception, Republicans have argued that they need to end or drastically changed.  They claim their changes will make them sound.  Can you really trust them to make them sound when they have always opposed them or can you trust the people that have always worked to make sure they are there for you?

    Now, listen to things the Republican ticket, the people who claim their changes to protect Social Security and Medicare, have been saying about health care in America.  First they tell us everyone has health care because they can go to the emergency room.  That is the most expensive way to provide health care and you can't get preventive health care in an emergency room.  Can you trust a person to protect our medicare system who believes emergency room health care is sufficient.  Now, they are saying no American dies in their home because they don't have health insurance.  Studies show that 26,000 Americans die each year because they don't have health insurance.  Can you trust the person who makes such a false statement to "fix" medicare so that it will be their for all Americans?

    You can continue this about Social Security.  Please, please make this argument that the Romney-Ryan ticket cannot be trusted in securing these two vital programs so that all Americans can retire in dignity are still around

    Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.

    by MoDem on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 07:42:30 AM PDT

  •  Obama need to hit Romney with this (1+ / 0-)
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    over and over

    early and often

    "I've had all I can stands, and I can't stands no more." - Popeye the Sailor Man

    by congenitalefty on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 07:46:51 AM PDT

  •  no wonder they hate NPR, which (0+ / 0-)

    had a good editorial piece on this:

    Leaving aside the horrific needless deaths and complications from delayed treatment, even from a financial point of view he's as ridiculous as he is heartless.  Obviously ER care is far from free, and they can and do send bill collectors to come and get you whether you could afford the care or not.  

    The below data on bankruptcies is probably known to all of us, but I'm guessing the average voter doesn't know about it, nor that so many of those people HAD insurance, though probably not with out of pocket spending caps of the sort I'm lucky enough to have.

    But even if Romney doesn't care about those poor people directly affected, perhaps we can ask him and his buddies who seem to care so much about paying for other people why they're so happy to see everyone else's bills go up to reflect uncollectable bills (and efforts to collect what they do manage to bleed from people) by suggesting not insuring people is a good idea?

  •  Romney has repeatedly said.... (0+ / 0-)

    People who need an ER visit live in an apartment. In his 47% view of the world takers don't own homes.

    What are their names and on what street do they live-David Crosby-"If I Could Only Remember My Name"

    by IB JOHN on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 08:25:27 AM PDT

  •  Romney forgot to tell my best friend that before (1+ / 0-)
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    she died.  She didn't have insurance and said that while she could afford to go to the doctor, she could not afford treatment if they found anything wrong with her.  She'd be alive today if she'd had affordable insurance.

  •  It's simply logic (0+ / 0-)

    If you don't have insurance and you are dealing with chronic headaches, abdominal pain, dizzy spells, irregular heartbeat, or whatever, you put off seeing a doctor - assuming one will even see you without insurance. When it gets so bad you have no choice but to go to the emergency room, it can either be too late or you get driven into bankrupcy paying for expensive care or surgery that might have been avoidable.

    The fact that this can even be debated staggers me.

  •  45,000 dead Americans every year (0+ / 0-)

    That is the equivalent of a 9/11 every 3.5 weeks.  

    And we don't do anything about it because it would cost too much money.  

    Does anyone have a good number for the total cost of the Iraq/Afghanistan wars so far?

  •  President Obama better hit Romney on this (0+ / 0-)

    at the next debate, and I don't give damn if it's supposed to be about foreign policy.  Hang this around this around Romney's neck like a millstone and if he tries to squirm away whack him even harder.  After last night, I want to see Romney get his teeth kicked in (figuratively of course) on national TV more than ever.  Biden showed the possibilities of aggressively calling out a lying sack of shit I his face.

    Given all the talk about how Romney outclassed President Obama at their first debate, and given how Romney used his lies to put himself in position to possibly take Obama's job, erase everything he's accomplished, and most importantly take away, for purely political reasons, from millions of poor and working class Americans the health care that Obama and Democrats worked so hard for and sacrificed so much for politically, Obama better come out ready to ground that sonofabitch into hamburger meat on Tuesday.

    To paraphrase Biden last night, I've had it up to here with these smug, greedy, selfish, lying, and heartless plutocrat motherfuckers.  I usually disdain using all caps, but KICK HIS FUCKING ASS MR. PRESIDENT.  Not just for yourself but for all of us.  We're counting on you.  And I'm not exaggerating when I point out that people's lives are literally counting on it.  

    “Th’ noise ye hear is not th’ first gun iv a revolution. It’s on’y th’ people iv the United States batin’ a carpet.” - Mr. Dooley

    by puakev on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 09:20:53 AM PDT

  •  Thanks for a great, important diary! I wish (0+ / 0-)

    everyone could know about this and hold Romney/Ryan accountable for this crap.

    "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

    by Gorette on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 10:34:42 AM PDT

  •  Choose life - Choose Obamacare n/t (0+ / 0-)

    "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics" - F.D.R.

    by biscobosco on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 09:49:19 PM PDT

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