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I didn't think the Repubs and their mouthpieces could GET any worse but two things from the debate yesterday have me seriously ticked off.

Does anyone think it was an coincidence that Paul Ryan talked about a couple he met whose family members were killed in a car crash?  I mean, everyone knows that Biden's wife and daughter were killed in a car crash and Ryan just happens to pick THAT to talk about?

Or how about the "Reverend" Mike Huckabee and the whole sorry lot of them (Hannity, etc.) who questioned whether or not Biden was DRUNK at the debate??  The man doesn't drink because he had alcoholism in his family.  He stated that he saw too much growing up and what it did to families so he doesn't drink.

Does anyone seriously think EITHER of these things being said was NOT being done on purpose?

EMPATHY might be another word they google when they look up malarkey.

As my dear late mother used to say, "I am so mad I could spit."  (I still don't know what they hell that means!!)

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  •  They're nothing but a bunch of charlatans...the (10+ / 0-)

    whole lot of them.

    "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice. We must put our hands on it and we must bend it in the direction of justice." MLK

    by mindara on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 01:26:12 PM PDT

  •  i'm pretty sure (8+ / 0-)

    that jesus would be appalled at the uniformly uncharitable, uncivil, compassion-free shit commonly perpetrated by so many of those who claim the mantle of christian piety.

    keep your eyes on the sky. put a dollar in the kitty. don't the moon look pretty. --becker&fagen

    by homo neurotic on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 01:31:35 PM PDT

    •  I am sure he would be (2+ / 0-)
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      I wish those people would stop calling themselves christians because they totally misrepresent true followers of Christ.  A bunch of mean-spirited, legalistic hyprocrits is what they are and they are truly disgusting.

      GOTV like your life depends on it ~ it does. Obama 2012!

      by Orlaine on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 06:24:29 PM PDT

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  •  We have to expose them to the nation. (5+ / 0-)

    Biden made a good beginning, as far as time and the circumstances allowed.

    All decent people need to follow his lead.  No more allowing false equivalences to pass, allowing lies to be labeled as opinion, allowing preventive suffering, or destructiveness, or hatred to pass as Christ-like behavior.

    Chief neoconservative/fundamentalist allied belief: All things are possible if only you lie.

    by blueoasis on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 01:39:05 PM PDT

  •  Mormons are not Christians. Look it up. (4+ / 0-)
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    Plato's " The Cave" taught me to question reality.

    by CTDemoFarmer on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 01:40:48 PM PDT

    •  But Huckabee and Ryan (2+ / 0-)
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      are both unquestionably Christian. Mormons claim to be Christian so that is a debate for Christians to have amongst themselves.

      •  isn't huckabee baptist? (1+ / 0-)
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        cuz they don't think Catholics are truly Christian on account of their way of earning heavenly access thru religious activities.  

        •  but religiosity in any form is detestable (0+ / 0-)

          to Jesus who said the proud 'I thank God I'm not like those sinners, especially that guy over there' Pharisee was not accepted while that other guy who prayed humbly 'have mercy on me' went home accepted.  God looks at the heart, and these Republicans are as dark-hearted as can be.

    •  They're christian if they call themselves so. (2+ / 0-)
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      I see this idea tossed about so frequently, I have to speak out against it.  It seems like more often than not, they claim they are christian.

      Their religion may consider Mohammed a prophet, and Jesus a prophet, and their con-artist founder a prophet, but if they want to call themselves christian, that's entirely their call.

      Being a christian entails nothing objectively verifiable.  It's a label that people choose to apply to themselves, so you cannot deny it about others.

      That might not line up with everyone's idea for what the word means, but since christianity isn't based on any physical reality you can't dispute their use of the word is any less valid than yours.

      Just let them use the word if they want to.  It's meaningless.

  •  My grandmother said something similar ... (1+ / 0-)
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    ... "I'm so mad I could spit nails!"

    I actually believed  her until I was 12 or 13 - she had a temper, and boy!  Did she perfect the art of venting!  She could rant for 5 minutes without repeating herself once.  

    The funny thing is, she never did that when she was mad at some*one*.   Then she'd get very quiet and very proper in her speech.  Then we knew we were in trouble! :)

    •  In my neighborhood, the use of one's middle (1+ / 0-)
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      name was a sign of trouble. A mom shouting a kid's full name from the kitchen door meant a bad day.

      We've been wondering how to get through the clutter and reach low-information voters. Mitt haz it.

      by Crashing Vor on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 01:58:39 PM PDT

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  •  Since I didn't watch this presentation either, (0+ / 0-)

    I can't say whether Ryan was being gratuitously insensitive. However, instinct-driven people do like to deal in personalities. Indeed, all their behaviors are in terms of persons -- imitating them, admiring them, blaming them, pushing them around. Everything's personal.  So, that the politics of personal destruction should surface in the same context as the politics of personal adulation should not be surprising. Then too, the line between adulation and antagonism is very thin and that's why Republican political operatives have been laboring 24/7/365 for five years to keep Barack Obama from turning into a star.

    Also, perhaps because of a pervasive sense of fear, our instinct-driven Americans, in particular, are fixated on death. They proclaim themselves to be pro-life, but only as long as the cells are still attached. After birth, humans are available to be dispatched sooner or later as reckless teenagers, fungible troops, industrial fodder or some other kind of sacrifice.  Oh, and then there's always execution by the state.
    We've got a blood-thirsty society in which forty thousand people are killed in vehicular crashes every year.
    It's not a happenstance.  Nobody calling for that rate to be cut in half so we not only avoid medical costs but don't waste adults in the prime of life. You can bet that every American family knows someone that's been either killed or crippled for life in a crash. So, Ryan's story may just have been an example of his vulture-like anticipation of profitable opportunities for the medico-legal establishment he serves.

    We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

    by hannah on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 01:48:20 PM PDT

  •  it was rehearsed and meant to hit his (0+ / 0-)

    focus and anger but the VP is smarter than Goober.
    disgusting...

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    by Vetwife on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 03:20:59 PM PDT

  •  politics is the failure of Christianity (0+ / 0-)

    The clock's ticking on that religion, and when it fades away and Jesus joins Thor, Zeus, and Osiris on the heap of things people once believed in but seem quaint now, the mingling of politics with religion will be why.

    Right-wing politics and Jesus's teachings are completely incompatible, and since the right-wingers have taken the lion's share of the religion, it's a failure.  Too bad, 'cuz some Christians aren't bad people...

    "Glenn Beck ends up looking like a fat, stupid child. His face should be wearing a chef's hat on the side of a box of eclairs. " - Doug Stanhope

    by Front Toward Enemy on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 04:43:34 PM PDT

    •  Incompatible? I don't think a lot would agree. (0+ / 0-)

      A whole lot of people disagree that those are incompatible.  I once had a self-described fundamentalist christian (who is active in the republican party) recommend I read one of Ayn Rand's novels.

      •  that's what I mean, though... (1+ / 0-)
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        You can't follow Jesus and Ayn Rand both.  There's no way -- one or the other would have to be disobeyed.  That's what I mean by incompatible -- they're opposing ideas, and by trying to blend them, right-wing Christians have destroyed their hijacked version Christianity.  Thanks to that stuff, Christians aren't seen as the good guys anymore.

        Damn near all the right-wing Christians follow Ayn Rand now.  That's why the Christian religion has failed.  

        "Glenn Beck ends up looking like a fat, stupid child. His face should be wearing a chef's hat on the side of a box of eclairs. " - Doug Stanhope

        by Front Toward Enemy on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 05:03:29 PM PDT

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        •  Christianity is self-contradictory gobbledegok. (1+ / 0-)
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          It doesn't matter if anything you claim can be tied to christianity might oppose previous takes on it.  It's all nonsense.

          As far as their take on religion goes, they are nihilists.  Talk to one, and they'll insist that unless you believe that bad behavior is punished by infinite torture, that you cannot possibly make moral decisions.  This is nihilist reasoning.

          For them, anything can be justified.

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