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This looks like it may end up being like 2000's Butterfly Ballot and Hanging Chads and what not. The USPS says people are not putting enough postage while mailing the Absentee Ballot.

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Thousands of Ohio voters are voting by absentee ballot this year so they don't have to stand in line at the polls on Election Day. Ohio Boards of Elections expect at least 25 percent of all votes to come in this way.But the U.S. Postal Service says many absentee voters are not putting enough postage on the envelope, putting their vote at risk.
Because of the size of the 2012 mailer,the Hamilton County Board of Elections in Ohio say you should put 65 cents worth of postage on most absentee ballots, about 20 cents more than the standard Forever Stamp.
Ohio Kossacks - did you put the right amount of postage?
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  •  They should mail free! Dammit. (6+ / 0-)

    Good way to stifle the vote.

    Only thing more infuriating than an ignorant man is one who tries to make others ignorant for his own gain. Crashing Vor

    by emmasnacker on Wed Oct 17, 2012 at 09:11:43 AM PDT

  •  I put two stamps on mine because I had a feeling (2+ / 0-)
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    phonegery, Sylv

    it might get refused because the mailing envelope was bigger than normal. This in New Hampshire.

    And being very distrustful these days I added the extra postage while wondering..

    "Time is for careful people, not passionate ones."

    "Life without emotions is like an engine without fuel."

    by roseeriter on Wed Oct 17, 2012 at 09:13:41 AM PDT

  •  This was a subject (5+ / 0-)
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    ffour, phonegery, angelajean, Sylv, CoyoteMarti

    that came up in another diary two weeks ago about voting in Ohio.  Mostly this is because of the very long ballolt language that the Ohio Ballot Board adopted for Issue 2, which caused ballots to be two physical sheets in most counties.  In Franklin County, the first absentee ballot had all of the officeholders up for election and Issue 1, the question on the constitutional convention.  I wondered about  whether the USPS would just allow the absentee ballots to go through because it is election mail, which is a special kind of standard mail.  They are doing the smart thing in Hamilton County, it seems, and sending them on to the Board of elections.  

    After histopresto's experience, I did take my wife's and my absentee ballots to the window at the post office and paid the 65 cents for each absentee ballot.  And John Matarese's suggestion is actually a good one, since two Forever stamps will allow you to mail a letter up to 3 ounces, which should cover any absentee ballot in Ohio.

    THIS JUST IN: Burger King announces a new sandwich: THE JOSH MANDEL PANTS ON FIRE WHOPPER! Two patties of BS covered in steak sauce, young cheese and no vegetables. No substance there, just bite!

    by Kurt from CMH on Wed Oct 17, 2012 at 09:14:31 AM PDT

  •  What happens to the ballots without enough (3+ / 0-)
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    Bob B, Sylv, nzanne

    postage?  Returned to sender?  Sent to a dead letter office?

    Is there any way the sender can know that his ballot was delivered?

    Time is a long river.

    by phonegery on Wed Oct 17, 2012 at 09:26:06 AM PDT

  •  Do they have to put any postage at all? (2+ / 0-)
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    Kurt from CMH, Sylv

    Our Alaska absentee ballots confuse the issue. Inside, there is a list of things to do and one of them is to put postage on the envelope. But, if you look at the envelope, the postage is already paid for. The Alaska govt is just look for a way to save a few bucks.

    •  Not so here in Ohio (2+ / 0-)
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      Sylv, angelajean

      We now have to affix the postage.  It used to be that Ohio was like Alaska, we had a business reply mail envelope that allowed us to send the absentee ballots back without paying postage.  Not anymore.

      THIS JUST IN: Burger King announces a new sandwich: THE JOSH MANDEL PANTS ON FIRE WHOPPER! Two patties of BS covered in steak sauce, young cheese and no vegetables. No substance there, just bite!

      by Kurt from CMH on Wed Oct 17, 2012 at 09:30:41 AM PDT

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  •  No guidance (2+ / 0-)
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    tarminian, Orangetime

    I have my Ohio ballot and nowhere in the package does it say now much postage to attach to the return envelope. That was one of the first things my husband and I noticed. I intend to take both of ours to the post office for postage. That's the best way to be sure the amount of postage is correct.

    And not for a minute do I think that the lack of guidance on postage is accidental.

    Thanks for this important information.

    "...in a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy." Matt Taibbi

    by Getreal1246 on Wed Oct 17, 2012 at 09:43:57 AM PDT

  •  This makes me just sick. (0+ / 0-)

    I'm always wondering about slightly oversize envelopes for voting. Christ, how many will be thrown away without the voters knowing?

    "I can't do it by myself. No president can. Remember: Change doesn't happen from the top. It happens because of you." B Obama, 2008

    by nzanne on Wed Oct 17, 2012 at 11:20:47 AM PDT

  •  Same in California for vote by mail... (0+ / 0-)

    due to unusually long ballot and number of propositions.

    Wouln't have caught it if I hadn't read pretty carefully, so this could be a real problem.

    At least it's an equal problem for both parties, so I don't see either side gaining some advantage because of it.

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