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The Seattle Times Co. began an active campaign Wednesday to support Republican gubernatorial candidate Rob McKenna and gay marriage, part of a push to demonstrate the effectiveness of newspaper political advertising.

The subscription department was very busy just now.

I just got off of the phone.  I let them know that there is just one industry that has the protection of the constitution.  That industry is the press.  

The press is not protected so that it may engage in politics.  The press is protected so that it does not engage in politics.  

What was more offensive?  The fact that they did it?  Or the fact  that they think Washington voters would be stupid enough to fall for the Fauxnews equivalency bullshit.  

"We support gay marriage, so we're not the crazy types.  We're just being "fair" aren't we? "

The excuse they make publicly is that they are trying to show how political advertising works.  

That way, they can really show that it works.  

How about they just give the advertising away for free to people who have no publicity?  If someone who has no name recognition were to suddenly see a large bump in their name recognition and polling, don't you agree that it would show the success of print media?  

In this case, the way they can tell that it was successful is if the issues pass.  Ref74 (The marriage equality initiative) , in my opinion, is going to pass anyway.  

How Did it Get this way?

I have been annoyed by Kos' historical carping on print media.  Print media is still relevant for many people.  It's relevant for older people, and it's relevant for people who have no access to digital media- poor people.  

It would still annoy me, because the access issues aren't any different, regardless of which direction the political winds blow the newspaper.  

We got here because the Seattle PI went fully digital a few years back.  This turned us into another American city with one major newspaper.  They pretended that they would be able to be fair.  They aren't.  

The journalist who wrote about this, Jim Brunner, appears to be on board the false equivalence bus.  I let him know personally that I hold him responsible for his actions in supporting the false equivalence.  

See the first comment for the quote I wanted them to have about my cancellation.  

I thought I'd be one of the last people to subscribe to a hard copy of the paper.

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Comment Preferences

  •  Here's what I told them (7+ / 0-)
    The press is the only industry protected in the constitution, and this behavior by the Seattle Times just shits on it.  
    I tried to talk to a manager, but she was busy!  Huh?  Oh, because they're answering phone calls about this idiocy.  

    I let the subscriber representative know that those are the words I would like her manager to hear.

    I've given them thousands of dollars over the years.  Thousands.  It's amazing to me that any mainstream, unbiased news organization thinks it can do this.  

    I guess it's just more of the same.  Fox News donates to Republicans, so the little Foxies at the conservative daily in a major liberal city think they can do it, too.

    Incarceration Nation has a Jail Jones to feed its Imprisonment Addiction

    by otto on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 07:58:41 AM PDT

  •  A business decision they say (2+ / 0-)
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    otto, jessical

    Amazing.  I'm guessing they must not have many subscribers left if this was a business decision.  How many people in Seattle are going to vote for McKenna.

    “This is a business decision that is completely separate from journalism functions of the newspaper,” said Alan Fisco, executive vice president for revenue and new products at the newspaper, in a statement. “The ads will be clearly identified as ads and there is no intersection between the advertising and our editorial commentary or news reporting.

    Republicans: Taking the country back ... to the 19th century

    by yet another liberal on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 08:09:21 AM PDT

  •  Thanks for posting this. I thought about it but (2+ / 0-)
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    jessical, otto

    hadn't gotten around to it yet.

  •  hah (3+ / 0-)
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    otto, greengemini, myboo

    I read 'em free online so I'm already on board :}  

    I was really disgusted by their McKenna endorsement, and am unsurprised -- much of their reporting to date this cycle might as well be advertising.  They loves them their impression of moderateness, but when he turns out to be Washington's Scott Walker, the two or three disapproving editorials will in no way make up for the individual, social and civic cost.  

    On the upside, the commercials making the rounds - "he's not who he says he is" -- which were (of course) panned by the Seattle Times "fact checkers" --- seem very effective to me.  He is not Dan Evans II, he is a mean, doctrinaire little martinet who I could see -- very easily -- continuing his work against ACA into the governorship and cheerfully dismantling much of what is good about our state.

    ...j'ai découvert que tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos dans une chambre.

    by jessical on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 08:37:41 AM PDT

  •  I called to Cancel my Subscription (3+ / 0-)
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    jessical, otto, greengemini

    I told the customer service rep I don't even read the paper (Sunday only delivery) but wanted to make sure people still were employed... it's worth a few bucks a month .... however I could not support the owners choice for Governor.
    He suggested putting the account on "protest hold" for three months.. no delivery, no billing... that would send a stronger message.
    So... My account is on protest hold.... I kind of like the sound of that!

  •  2 cancellations (4+ / 0-)
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    jessical, otto, greengemini, myboo

    We are in Bellevue. Our daughter takes the Times, and buys us a subscription. Both will be cancelled today. Daughter asks if we know of a weekly, liberal paper we can subscribe to as her 4 kids all like to read the paper...and that is the reason she subscribed in the first place.

    We thought of the Nation, but that is heavy reading for kids age 10-14.

    Any suggestions?

    One should never consider yourself too poor to support the ACLU.

    by oakroyd on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 08:41:55 AM PDT

    •  Sunday NYT ? (2+ / 0-)
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      otto, oakroyd

      The Stranger of course is free, but having a hard time picturing it, Pulitzer or not, working in the context you describe :}

      ...j'ai découvert que tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos dans une chambre.

      by jessical on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 08:52:25 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  I hate to say it (2+ / 0-)
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      oakroyd, jessical

      I just don't know what exists out there today?  

      It's a serious conundrum.  We have so much access to media, but we can't get one that will actually deliver on the implicit aspirations that the constitution has for the free press.

      Incarceration Nation has a Jail Jones to feed its Imprisonment Addiction

      by otto on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:00:03 AM PDT

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      •  Agree (3+ / 0-)
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        otto, jessical, myboo

        Reading on the internet is great, but the running of the eye through an actual paper may bring you a story or an opinion you would have NO IDEA you were interested in. I consider the web to go deep into a subject, but a paper covers more 'surface'. Does that make sense? We need something for ages 10 through 80, as the two Oakroyds are at the oldsters in the clan. Whatever we subscribe to will be widely read, but we just can't think of the solution.

        One should never consider yourself too poor to support the ACLU.

        by oakroyd on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:07:46 AM PDT

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        •  USA Today? (2+ / 0-)
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          jessical, oakroyd

          I know that sounds awful, but when I was in Germany in 96, it was actually a very helpful thing to have an American paper out every day that I could glance through.  

          There may also be some things like, "The Week" or something that are weekly digests culled from multiple media sources, but which are delivered in print.  

          Incarceration Nation has a Jail Jones to feed its Imprisonment Addiction

          by otto on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:10:59 AM PDT

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        •  Browse Bulldog (3+ / 0-)
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          PhilK, oakroyd, otto

          There's still one on the Ave.   See what appeals.  I personally would pick up a financial times or a tribby over USA today anywhere in the world...

          Still think you just can't beat the Sunday NY Times for the spread on the bed, coffee cake and orange juice experience.  LA Times doesn't suck either, but isn't as perfect somehow.  There are some GREAT papers to read when you don't have a dog in the fight -- if you can't laugh at the NY Post or Daily News, then the world has become a dim place indeed, albeit every penny goes to weasels -- in any event, I'd browse Bulldog for inspiration...

          All this said, the protest hold (above) sounds like a good idea.  They are our only paper, and we knew they were in the grip of bidness booster types of limited intelligence, empathy, and scope.  The Gannett rags of our surrounding cities -- or worse yet, the Tacoma News Tribune -- are worse, they would happily proclaim the status quo even if it involved right wing death squads.

          ...j'ai découvert que tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos dans une chambre.

          by jessical on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:58:09 AM PDT

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  •  Best news in WA state: The Stranger n/t (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Cancelled and sent refund to Inslee n/t (0+ / 0-)

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