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I have a Sunday AM ritual:  turn on one of the news shows and see how long I can last without becoming desperately ill.  Usually no more than five minutes.

This morning, I tuned in MTP and there was "Dancin' Dave" introducing a segment on (surpise!) Libya:

Dave, to Panel:  "Can this issue get even more politicized?"

(Me, thinking -- Holy crap, Dave, exactly which party is desperately politicizing this to death?)

Tom Friedman (making sense for one of the rare times in his life):  "What we saw in Benghazi was amazing -- crowds of people with pictures of the Ambassador actually protesting the murders and rounding up the suspects!"

Dancin' Dave:  "But Obama said that Al Qaeda is dead?  How can this happen if that's the case?"

(Me, thinking is that from Rush or Fox?)

Dee Dee Myers:  "Obama has been great on terror!  Killed OBL, etc."

Dancin' Dave:  "Well, here's an article by Stephen Hayes of the Weekly Standard that says one of the suspects of the attack was sitting around in a cafe, sipping a drink.  What about that, huh, huh, huh?"

Exit Upper West, to the bathroom, gagging.

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  •  What a turd. n/t (12+ / 0-)

    The GOP can't win on ideas. They can only win by lying, cheating, and stealing. So they do.

    by psnyder on Sun Oct 21, 2012 at 07:11:05 PM PDT

    •  And the panel this week was not horrible -- (1+ / 0-)
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      Dee Dee, Friedman (who didn't suck), Helene Cooper of the Times and Mike Murphy (the only Republican besides Gregory).

      So Dave had to overcompensate, except he's always that bad.

      The GOP: "You can always go to the Emergency Room."

      by Upper West on Sun Oct 21, 2012 at 07:30:16 PM PDT

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      •  Friedman did Suck when he said that .... (1+ / 0-)
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        the moderator in the upcoming debate should ask President Obama about a carbon tax.

        GREGORY: Really quick, you and I asked about a carbon tax?

        MR. FRIEDMAN:  Would you support a carbon tax that will help us be less dependent on foreign oil, strengthen innovation at home and combat climate changeā€¦

        What he's really asking is as follows...
        Would you support  a regressive carbon tax that will help exacerbate income inequality and ensure that Chinese wind turbines and solar panels make their way to America.
        If President Obama wants to lose the popular vote by 10% points, he will support a carbon tax.

        Learn about Centrist Economics, learn about Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project.

        by PatriciaVa on Sun Oct 21, 2012 at 07:47:52 PM PDT

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  •  Wow... (17+ / 0-)

    This asshole is still spouting the false statement that Obama said Al-Qaeda is dead, which he didn't say. To paraphrase he said they were on the run, not dead. My goodness...

    "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Mahatma Gandhi Proud Obama Supporter! I write stuff sometimes Yea I'm on Twitter: wlfpack81

    by wlfpack81 on Sun Oct 21, 2012 at 07:14:23 PM PDT

  •  David and Chuckie (8+ / 0-)

    these guys are part of the symptomatic dismantling of real journalism. They are allowing it... no, they are helping it... by their acceptance of the RW media's talking points. They are scared to death to do their damn job. Can't we get rid of them?

    Thank your stars you're not that way/Turn your back and walk away/Don't even pause and ask them why/Turn around and say 'goodbye'/Just wish them well.....

    by Purple Priestess on Sun Oct 21, 2012 at 07:25:16 PM PDT

  •  Is He really Moderator for the Next Debate? (2+ / 0-)
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    PatriciaVa, Upper West

    Please tell me my computer has a vius that's insertng that information into the articles I read on-line?

    -approaching Curmudgeonry with pleasure

    by Calfacon on Sun Oct 21, 2012 at 07:26:30 PM PDT

  •  I've been a strong believer in the idea (11+ / 0-)

    that Democrats and Liberals should attack the Village for a long time now. What Rachel Maddow is doing with PolitiFact, for example, is a model for pushback against the Village as a whole.

    What are they going to do? Cover the Democrats unfairly, help the GOP create fake scandals and phony outrages, and hold the two parties to two very different standards that benefits the Right?

    The Village is not going to wake up one day and realize that what they thought of as fairness was rigging the rules to the benefit of one side who doesn't like to be challenged because they like to lie and bullshit their ways into power.

    You have to make them.

    Civility for civilities sake, just like bipartisanship for bipartisanships sake, is a way of getting the veal calves in and out of the veal pen in a sedate and orderly fashion.

    Rachel Maddow figured it out.

    PolitiFact remaining unchallenged is PolitiFact remaining unchecked and maintaining its full credibility to pull its "Democrats say sky blue, we rate this Mostly True" act.

    Getting angry is not getting out of control.
    Being polite in the face of outrageous lies is no virtue.

    One of the biggest ways that the Movement Conservative Right is still able to flog the outragiously idiotic idea that the establishment corporate media is "liberally biased", and psychologically bolster this notion in the minds of millions of low information voters, is when the Right points out that Liberals and Democrats accept it too.

    How do they make the case that non-Movement Conservatives acccept the "liberal bias" meme?

    No strong, even angry and pointedly so, objections to this game.

    This is a game. Just like PolitiFact's game. A schtick.

    The only way to stop them is to make them stop.

    Luke Russert, for example, should be chilling to most non-Movement Conservatives who watch the establishment media Village.

    He is being raised, like a combination of lab rat and thougth experiment, to be the next generation of Villager Very Serious Person, and he's been guilty of worse and worse and worse since day one.

    You have to take that down a peg, or he'll be making his "boat shoes" jokes while he helps Alaska Senator Bristol Palin make the case that hungry people choose to be hungry. "Starving is a Lifestyle Choice, people".

    I am from the Elizabeth Warren and Darcy Burner wing of the Democratic Party

    by LeftHandedMan on Sun Oct 21, 2012 at 07:33:09 PM PDT

    •  Exactly. (6+ / 0-)

      We need to hammer the media. I do it here on a regular basis. I live in a small enough area (400K) that when I yap about how bad the local and network press are, people hear it and listen. Somebody always knows somebody else. I tell the people who call and try to sell me newspaper subscriptions that their product isn't worth paying for, and when they quit impersonating articles with "advertisements" and actually do investigative reporting that benefits the people at large I will consider them. Currently the local press isn't worthy of lining a birdcage.

      I also freely tell networks locally how much they and their parent networks are missing, how I see the "bleeds it leads" ethos and how their corporate owners will only tell us what they want us to know, and that I not only do not consider them valid sources of information but in addition consider them propaganda arms for local and larger power interests. I have so many local examples in my brain that anytime I get into one of these discussions they walk away with irrefutable proof - and often I leave with a number of onlookers nodding and going - "yeah - that guy is on to something."

      I am a walking sledgehammer to media outlets and am relentless on this.  It's one form of activism that can be done one person at a time, in a viral way that can work.

      Lots of people have this "on the tip of the tongue/mind", and it doesn't take much - if well learned about the fact in major stories - to connect dots for people using real world examples. I've dome it enough person to person to know it's an idea whose time has come.

      "Occupy The Media". Make them tell the truth. Humiliate them ruthlessly until they do.

      "Because only three percent of you read books - and only fifteen percent of you read newspapers - but right now there is a whole and entire generation that didn't know anything that didn't come out of this tube." - Howard Beale

      by Audible Nectar on Sun Oct 21, 2012 at 08:05:37 PM PDT

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  •  oh, my, no comedy tag (1+ / 0-)
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    Upper West

    I read the piece and cracked up! Then I notice there's no comedy tag.

    Never mind.

  •  Both David Gregory and UpChuck Todd (1+ / 0-)
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    are reasons to find the remote as soon as possible.

    I bet NBC and/or MSNBC could find some legitimate journalists to replace these two.

    The sun's not yellow, it's chicken. B. Dylan

    by bgblcklab1 on Sun Oct 21, 2012 at 08:08:31 PM PDT

    •  I turned them off on MSNBC this afternoon just (3+ / 0-)
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      David54, Upper West, Mathazar

      after it came on.  Let it register and turn the station.

      i can't stomach the idiots Russert, Todd or Gregory.  i know that Gregory has had troubles with holding viewers.  I think that we should boycott them.  Anytime they are on the channel we should turn the station - even if they appear on Rachel, Ed, etc.  it regisers in time segments when people turn the channel.  i think the shows are in 15 minute segments - so turning the channel lets the networks know that that 15 minutes sucked.

    •  Sure. (0+ / 0-)

      Luke Russert, for example.

      The GOP: "You can always go to the Emergency Room."

      by Upper West on Sun Oct 21, 2012 at 09:21:01 PM PDT

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  •  Today, (1+ / 0-)
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    Upper West

    Explosive Diarrhea David Gregory once again tried to put a questionably sanitary thumb on the scales of the 2012 race today.

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Sun Oct 21, 2012 at 09:15:22 PM PDT

  •  bummer I was fooled by your title (0+ / 0-)

    thought you had good news for me that he was not being his usual self

    he does so much damage
    He did an early Warren/Brown debate (ie moderator) and he sucked by far

  •  Ya know.... (0+ / 0-)

    David Gregory is a tool.
    A Rethug tool.
    Or better stated...a useful idiot to the Rethug machine.  
    And BTW, anyone who could possibly tune into the Sunday morning R-fest deserves commendation.  Haven't been able to watch these Sunday AM charades for quite a while.

    I think, therefore I am........................... Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose....AKA Engine Nighthawk - don't even ask!

    by Lilyvt on Mon Oct 22, 2012 at 06:22:32 AM PDT

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