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IL-11: Hey, gay groups supporting GOP Rep. Judy Biggert: Maybe you'd like to get a clue, because this is who you're backing. From Wednesday night's debate with Democrat Bill Foster:

Biggert, who has long campaigned as a social moderate and fiscal conservative, said she has supported civil unions, but as a lawyer, she was concerned about the impact of same-sex marriage on such things as estate law and said it was "a matter for the state."
Her remarks at a post-debate press conference were even more appalling (about 2 minutes into the video):
"Well, I think that, I think that the country is close to this. And, and I think—but there, you know—I think—let's wait and see what the courts have to say. But it is a state issue—you know, we don't have polygamy and bigamy and all of these things in, in the federal government. It's the states that take care of that."
So just to be absolutely clear: Biggert says she is "close to reaching for gay marriages" but is afraid of how such marriages would affect estate law—even though, of course, it's the lack of same-sex marriage laws which prove so vexing in estate matters. She also wants to see "what the courts have to say" rather than take a stand herself. And oh yeah, she compared gay marriage to polygamy and bigamy. Some "moderate" she is. At least Foster's response was hilarious:
Foster, a former congressman who opposed same-sex marriage two years ago in one newspaper questionnaire, said he supported "marriage equality" and was "not ambiguous" on the issue.

"She has not yet evolved. So, she's crawling out of the swamp or something," said Foster, a scientist, after the debate. Asked if he, too, had evolved on the issue, Foster replied, "I'm all dry, fluffed off and happy to be a hominid."


AZ-Sen (Rasmussen): Rich Carmona (D): 44 (41), Jeff Flake (R): 50 (47).

CT-Sen (Gotham Research for Murphy): Chris Murphy (D): 47, Linda McMahon (R): 41.

CT-Sen: It looks like outside Democratic groups will be staying on the air through election day in Connecticut, with the DSCC spending $1.1 million for the final two weeks and Majority PAC chipping in $900K. That would be $6.5 million in total Nutmeg State outlays between the two groups—an unfortunate but understandable expense, given Republican Linda McMahon's bottomless personal wealth.

Speaking of McMahon, this is hilarious—I love the lede:

Only Donald Trump can seemingly turn an act of charity into the plague.

The single largest contributor to the Donald J. Trump Foundation—as listed on 990 forms filed with the Internal Revenue Service—is denying it gave $5 million to the coiffed one.

World Wrestling Entertainment, which now just goes by the WWE, distanced itself Wednesday from Trump, amid The Donald's promise to pay $5 million to the charity of President Obama's choice if the commander-in-chief releases all of his college and passport records.

IN-Sen: Poor Richard Mourdock. He's spent his whole life living in a bubble, never realizing how ugly his own beliefs are, and now he's finally been exposed to reality:
An emotional Richard Mourdock told fellow Republicans here that this "has been one of the toughest days of my life" as the GOP Senate candidate acknowledged creating "quite a firestorm" from his controversial comments on rape and abortion.

"Today has not been a fun day," a teary-eyed Mourdock told a private dinner meeting of the Hamilton County Republican Party. "Professionally, emotionally, it's been one of the toughest days of my life quite frankly."

"What I said last night I didn't mean obviously to be mistaken but it became a news story," he told the crowd. "For whatever reason, it seemed to further identify me in the public's mind. And if that's the way it is, that's the way it is."

Amusingly, John McCain's managed to blunder his way around this whole mess, too. McCain recently campaigned with Mourdock and was then asked by CNN's Anderson Cooper on Wednesday whether he still planned to continue supporting him. Said McCain:
I think it depends on what he does. If he apologizes and says he misspoke and he was wrong and he asks the people to forgive him, then obviously I'd be the first.
Mourdock had, though, already "apologized" (even if it was a classic no-pology) earlier that day, which forced a McCain spokesman to issue a new statement on Thursday morning saying that McCain is indeed still backing Mourdock.

But oh, you dumb fucker:

Also asked if campaign gained votes after the abortion comment, Mourdock replied: "I know we did."
And here we go: The DSCC just launched a new anti-Mourdock ad that of course features his "God intended that to happen" remarks. The narrator then says that "Even Mitt Romney and Mike Pence believe Richard Mourdock goes too far."

NV-Sen (Rasmussen): Shelley Berkley (D): 45 (43), Dean Heller (R-inc): 50 (50).

OH-Sen: After initially refusing to comment on Richard Mourdock's instantly-infamous rape remarks—even though Dave Catanese read them aloud to him—Republican Josh Mandel has now pulled a real winner out of his hat:

INGRAHAM: What's your take on that whole deal yesterday?

MANDEL: [Some boring crap about Sen. Jim DeMint] I've gotten to know Richard because we're both state treasurers. We're treasurers in states next to each other. He's a gentleman. He's a class act. He's a thoughtful guy. He'll make a great United States senator. Yesterday he apologized for his comments and I think he was right in apologizing for them. I disagree with the comments he made, and I think he did the right thing by apologizing.

But listen. The liberal media will do everything they can to twist and turn things that conservatives say. And you know, I think Richard is a man who would make a terrific United States Senator.

WI-Sen (Mason-Dixon): Tammy Baldwin (D): 47, Tommy Thompson (R): 45; Obama 48-46. Note: This poll is a week old (in the field 10/15-17), but only went up on RCP earlier this week.

WI-Sen: In the previous digest, I said I thought Tommy Thompson would regret opening up the door on 9/11 with his grotesque ad attacking Democrat Tammy Baldwin. Now I know he is. The IAFF and the Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin are now out with a spot of their own just hammering the Republican. "Tommy Thompson is using 9/11 for his political gain," says the narrator. "As firefighters, we have to ask: Have you no sense of decency, sir?" Damn.


IN-Gov: Democrat John Gregg has a new internal from Benenson showing his gap with Republican Mike Pence tightening by four points... but the bad news is that he's still down 46-40 with less than two weeks to go. In September, Gregg's previously unreleased internals had him trailing 50-40 (and 53-35 in July), but it's pretty hard to feel like there's any reason for optimism here.

MT-Gov: A state judge in Montana has temporarily ordered Republican Rick Hill to stop spending a questionable $500,000 campaign donation and to cancel any ad buys that were paid for with this money. So what's the backstory here? How the heck could Hill land such an enormous contribution? The Missoulian explains:

[Democrat Steve] Bullock has argued that the $500,000 donation received by Hill's campaign illegally exceeds the $22,600 maximum aggregate limit that a political party can give to a candidate for governor.

Hill disagreed. He said he legally received the donation Oct. 4 during a six-day window when state contribution limits, including the aggregate one, were struck down by a federal judge and before they were reinstated by an appeals court.

But Bullock's lawyer contended that the $22,600 aggregate limit for party donations applies for the entire campaign.

We mentioned that weird six-day gap in an earlier digest—and evidently, Hill was eager to exploit it, with the Montana Republican Party plowing that half a mil directly into his coffers. (Why couldn't the MT GOP just spend it themselves? They could, but Hill, as a candidate, is entitled to cheaper ad rates.) As I noted, this is not a permanent injunction, but the judge won't hear oral arguments until Monday, scarcely a week before election day. So even if Hill gets a favorable final ruling, he'll have limited time to make use of all that extra cash. And either way, he's taken a bad p.r. hit, since the ongoing abrogation of Montana's strict campaign finance laws doesn't tend to play well in a state that, until very recently, could proudly point to its efforts to keep money out of politics.

NC-Gov (PDF): No doubt your attention, concerning the new PPP poll of North Carolina, is on the presidential numbers, which find a 48-48 tie in the supposedly-locked-down state, with a 57-42 Barack Obama lead among those who've already voted. Nevertheless, it's a full pollapalooza of the statewide offices, too. The top slot is bad news, though no surprise: GOPer Pat McCrory leads Dem Walter Dalton 50-37, though Dalton leads 49-44 among those who've already voted.

Better news for the Dems is that their incumbents are winning all the tested Council of State races, including SoS Elaine Marshall (up 43-38), Sup't of Public Instruction June Atkinson (42-40), Insurance Comm. Wayne Goodwin (45-36), and Auditor Beth Wood (45-38). (GOP incumbent Labor Comm. Cherie Berry is also winning her race; oddly, the open seat Lt. Governor's race doesn't seem to have been polled.) The Dems also lead the generic legislative ballot 46-42. (David Jarman)


CA-10: You know how they say in politics, when you're explaining, you're losing? Well, I think when you're suing, you're losing, too. Republican Rep. Jeff Denham is howling about a new DCCC ad that claims: "With a government shutdown looming in Washington, Denham voted against a measure to guarantee our troops would still receive their pay." Denham's threatening to sue the D-Trip to get them to stop airing the ad—but that just means that local television stations are ignoring his requests to do so. (Or, weirdly, he's just trying to make a fuss in the press without even bothering to issue takedown demands.) Not a winning move, either way.

CA-31: It sure must sting to be Bob Dutton: The former Republican state Senate minority leader is now the target of mailers sent out by his very own state party, blasting him as "big spender" in an effort to boost the fortunes of fellow Republican Rep. Gary Miller. (Thanks to CA's top-two primary, the race in the 31st is an all-GOP affair.) What makes the whole thing so priceless is that Dutton had raised tons of money for the state GOP over the years. But even better: Why the hell are Cali Republicans wasting their very limited resources on an R-vs.-R affair? We should be glad that they aren't spending on a competitive contest.

CT-05: We have dueling internals in Connecticut's 5th. Republican Andrew Roraback went first, saying that National Research has him up 45-39 over Elizabeth Esty. In early September, the margin was similar, 42-35. Esty responded with numbers from Garin-Hart-Yang that instead had her on top, 46-42. Both surveys also showed very different numbers in the presidential race: Roraback sees it tied at 46, while Esty has a 53-42 edge for Obama. I feel like the truth is somewhere in between, seeing as the president won here 56-42 in 2008 but has definitely seen his fortunes slip statewide this year.

MA-06: Does Dem Rep. John Tierney still have a shot? Even though he apparently went dark a couple of weeks ago, and even though his campaign never responded to a devastating internal poll for Republican Richard Tisei that had him trailing by 17, the House Majority PAC is out with a new ad running on Boston TV that's "part of a $320,000 buy" on Tierney's behalf.

MI-11: I'm not sure quite what to make of pollster FMW/B—their latest presidential poll in Michigan, for instance, has the race tied at 47 apiece, which sounds basically impossible. But here they are with the first survey of the bizarre vacant-seat race in MI-11, finding Republican Kerry Bentivolio up 47-39 over Democrat Syed Taj. The survey contains a lot of things I wouldn't include in a normal public poll (like negative message tests!), and even asks about ex-Rep. Thad McCotter's "petition signature scandal" before getting to the horserace question, so I'm not sold on any of this. Oh, and there are no presidential toplines... but I wouldn't be inclined to trust those anyway.

NV-03: SurveyUSA, on behalf of the Las Vegas Review-Journal and 8NewsNow, finds GOP Rep. Joe Heck leading Democrat John Oceguera 50-40, their first poll of the race. There are no presidential toplines, but here's a big red flag: Hispanics are supporting Heck by a 53-36 margin. They only make up 10% of respondents, so this sub-sample is very small (~50), but this is a problem SUSA's had in prior Nevada polling.

Other Races:

AK-St. Sen: One of the most interesting, but easily forgotten, state legislatures is in Alaska, where the state Senate for a number of years has been controlled by a coalition of Democrats and pro-public-works establishment Republicans, with a handful of libertarian and social con-type GOPers deep in the minority. That may change this year, as there's a lot of outside money flowing into Senate races this year, as groups like Alaska Family Action try to take out four of the Senate's Democrats

It's not clear, however, how that would break the coalition entirely—out of the 20 seats in the Senate, 16 are currently held by coalition members—but it's a start, especially since one of the GOP coalition members, Linda Menard, who represents Wasilla, was defeated by a right-winger in the primary. While they're using social issues as a wedge, this may come down to (as do all things in Alaska) oil, as the right wing is looking for more votes to back up Gov. Sean Parnell's planned oil tax cuts. (David Jarman)

PA-St. Sen: The easiest pickup for Dems in the Pennsylvania State Senate is looking like a done deal, at this point; in an internal poll from 39th St. Strategies, Democratic candidate Sean Wiley is claiming a 19-point lead, 57-38, over GOPer Janet Anderson in this GOP-held open seat in Erie that leans blue at the presidential level. For the Dems to draw even in the Senate, though, would require four more pickups, which would mean running the table on every race that's even remotely competitive. (David Jarman)

Grab Bag:

AAN/CLF: The two-headed cyborg known as the American Action Network and the Congressional Leadership Fund are unleashing another $4.5 million in TV advertising spread across 13 districts. The Fix has the full list (as well as the breakdowns for each buy) at the link.

DCCC: You're going to want to tear through this: It's the DCCC's latest independent expenditure report, detailing $9.4 million in spending across a ton of races. Meanwhile, I wouldn't try looking for any tea leaves in this move—it's really just standard operating procedure. The Washington Post reports that the DCCC just borrowed $17 million to support its efforts in the final stretch run—a move the committee has made pretty much every cycle for many years. So given how common such loans are, I don't think you can say that this signals either optimism or desperation. If anything, I suspect that this borrowing was planned long ago as part of the D-Trip's expected 2012 budget.

DSCC: The DSCC also has a hefty new IE report, covering $7.8 million in spending. There was also a separate filing for $580K in Nevada.

NRSC: And finally, here's the NRSC with its own hefty $4.5 million report.

Polltopia: Poll respondents are not representative of voters in general, at least prior to the final weeks of the election, so we haven't really been able to tell who the general electorate wanted to vote for. (Historically, polling in the final weeks has been fairly accurate, though.) Instead, the polls have been tracking how much partisan voters want to answer polls. All we know for sure is that the race is fairly close, and always has been. And that's why dreaminonempty thinks there was probably no debate bounce, and no convention bounce, either—at least, not in the way those terms are traditionally used. Click through to see what he means, and the evidence he's using to buttress this theory.

MN-Sen: C-SPAN's Howard Mortman reminds us that Thursday was the tenth anniversary (or what Jews would call the yahrtzeit) of Paul Wellstone's tragic death in an airplane crash just weeks before the 2002 elections. Sen. Al Franken, who now occupies the same seat Wellstone once held and was a great friend of the deceased, also has an especially moving memoriam to the late senator.

Originally posted to Daily Kos Elections on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 05:00 AM PDT.

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  •  Romney team is putting up a MN ad buy... (3+ / 0-)
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    Alan Arizona, freelunch, skye in Ore

    It's a small buy, probably to get media attention.  Don't go for the head fake!

    Also, I don't know how we all missed this article:

    What Romney doesn’t know is if he will hit the 2004 turnout in all the places he needs to and, even if he does, whether that will be enough. This is the fine line between surge and merge. If Romney merely merges back into a lane of historical GOP voting patterns, he may not win key states where demographic shifts have tilted the battlefield in Obama’s favor.

    Nevada and Iowa, with six electoral votes each, are classic examples. Romney and Republican National Committee operatives won’t say it publicly but concede privately that Nevada is out of reach—largely because of Hispanic voters and Obama’s superior ground operations. Iowa remains fluid but, according to GOP operatives, has tilted back toward Obama in the past two weeks, for the same underlying reasons.

    Romney’s fortunes appear inextricably linked to Ohio. GOP strategist Mike Murphy says that the key metric there is the white vote. Romney remains in the low 50 percent range and needs to move higher. “If Ohio keeps moving up to a more ‘normal’ range of the white vote, say within the 55 percent to 57 percent range, I think Mitt can win,” Murphy said. To prevent that, Obama is pressing the issues of his tariffs against Chinese tire imports and expansion of the GM and Chrysler bailouts. Both play specifically to white voters in northern Ohio. In 2000, GOP voters outperformed Democrats 50 percent to 46.5 percent in turnout. In 2004, the GOP prevailed 50.8 percent to 48.7 percent. In 2008, Democrats triumphed 51.4 percent to 46.8 percent. Where Romney and Obama fall in this turnout continuum will, in all likelihood, determine the winner in Ohio and nationally.

    In the closing weeks, Romney and Obama will shift operatives to Ohio. Obama has already begun to quietly suggest to field organizers in Florida that their time would be better spent in the Buckeye State. Republicans are doing the same with field staff in Nevada.


    by LordMike on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 05:25:42 AM PDT

    •  Politico not even falling for it (2+ / 0-)
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      LordMike, KingofSpades

      When Politico calls it a head fake I am confident not too many people will fall for it. We'll see though...

      OH-1 (born and raised ), MN-2 (college), CA-53 (grad school), IA-2 (postdoc)

      by aamail6 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 05:57:37 AM PDT

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    •  This is more BS (2+ / 0-)
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      LordMike, askew

      Obama has a ton of staff in each state. Also Mike Murphy is  hack who is always spinning a pro-GOP propaganda.

      2012: It's about the Supreme Court. Follow me on Twitter @farrellmcmanus

      by HarlemUSA on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:24:30 AM PDT

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    •  Probable misinformation: Obama was just in FL (3+ / 0-)
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      LordMike, askew, itskevin

      so this part of the article makes no sense:

      Obama has already begun to quietly suggest to field organizers in Florida that their time would be better spent in the Buckeye State.
      Nevada, maybe, as that seems relatively secure. Wisconsin might be in a similar position now. But Florida?! Despite yesterday's PPP, I'd believe that NC is more R than Florida. But yesterday's PPP showed a 48-48 race, and our GOTV there is terrific.

      I hope; therefore, I can live.

      by tietack on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:51:27 AM PDT

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      •  Obama doesn't "quietly suggest"... (2+ / 0-)
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        OGGoldy, CoyoteMarti

        ...anything to his campaign staff.

        They are employees who take orders, not suggestions, and they go where Jim Messina decides to put them.

        And many low-level field organizers are local hires.  That's true here in McLean, where the guy handling my precincts is McLean-born and bred.  And he replaced another field organizer who was from very-nearby Great Falls and went to high school in McLean because they're close enough to be in the same school pyramid, but that guy was assigned exclusively to Great Falls.

        This is how microtargeted field resources can be in OFA, and frankly it doesn't make sense to move people hired in part for local knowledge to another state where they know nothing.

        44, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

        by DCCyclone on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 07:48:05 AM PDT

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  •  Let he who is without mirth cast the first "meh" (4+ / 0-)
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    Rich in PA, jnhobbs, nupstateny, DCCyclone

    Slow thinkers - keep right

    by Dave the Wave on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 05:31:55 AM PDT

  •  It helps that she's named Judy Bigot. (4+ / 0-)
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    sturunner, thomask, sfbob, CoyoteMarti

    Or close enough.  And her opponent sounds pretty cool.

    Romney '12: Berlusconi without the sex and alcohol!

    by Rich in PA on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 05:33:22 AM PDT

    •  Playing with names is a little childish IMO (0+ / 0-)

      Remember the whole "Rich Whitey" ordeal back in 2010?

      •  I've never cared about that. (0+ / 0-)

        I think it's childish to impose stupid beliefs on society, which is what Republicans do pretty much by definition, so I have no reservations about being childish right back at them.  

        Romney '12: Berlusconi without the sex and alcohol!

        by Rich in PA on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 12:59:38 PM PDT

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    •  Bill Foster is totally cool. (1+ / 0-)
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      Started a company with his brother when he was 19 that now manufactures half the theater lighting control systems in the US, and also exports. Company has 600+ employees. Then Bill went to school to become a physicist and led the Top Quark discovery team at FermiLab. Our race will be incredibly tight and the republican attacks so bad that one was actually pulled by local stations. Volunteers can sign up at! Disclosure: I am a volunteer for the campaign.

      Rhubarb is a metaphor for finding happiness in your own back yard.

      by CoyoteMarti on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 01:09:44 PM PDT

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    •  BTW, what "gay groups" are supporting her? (0+ / 0-)

      The diary talks about groups in the plural.  Is there any gay group other than the GOProud superPAC supporting Biggert?  My understanding is that that's the only one, and it just so happens to be funded by some rich, straight guy.

      David seems to think there are loads of gays out there supporting Republicans.  There aren't.  But I guess he can't be bothered to investigate that.

      "Ça c'est une chanson que j'aurais vraiment aimé ne pas avoir écrite." -- Barbara

      by FogCityJohn on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 03:45:59 PM PDT

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      •  it's not cool (0+ / 0-)

        to put words in someone's mouth, and then attack them for saying those words.

        David never said (or even implied) that there were "loads of gays" supporting Biggert. But indeed, there are Republican gay groups supporting Biggert (Log Cabin, in addition to GOProud) and David is far from the first person to point out their hypocrisy. The HRC also supports her (and continues to after those comments!). So why you felt the need to make some snippy comment about David, who does a great job with the digests, is really beyond me.

        Living in Kyoto-06 (Japan), voting in RI-01, went to college in IL-01.

        by sapelcovits on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:14:42 PM PDT

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        •  I think one should at least note... (0+ / 0-)

          that GOProud is a miniscule organization, and its superPAC, which is supporting Biggert, is funded by a straight guy.

          Likewise, LCR is a tiny group.  Both LCR and GOProud get lots of airplay precisely because they're conservative.  

          What bothers me is that straight people seem to like to criticize gays whenever any gay person supports a Republican, yet no one seems to find it necessary to fault, say, Latino voters when a big chunk of them vote Republican.  

          "Ça c'est une chanson que j'aurais vraiment aimé ne pas avoir écrite." -- Barbara

          by FogCityJohn on Sat Oct 27, 2012 at 12:06:27 PM PDT

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          •  well, HCR is a big "mainstream" group (0+ / 0-)

            also, maybe you're just reading the wrong places. I notice self-hatred pointed out for other Republican groups all the time.

            Living in Kyoto-06 (Japan), voting in RI-01, went to college in IL-01.

            by sapelcovits on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 04:20:26 PM PDT

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            •  Oh boy (0+ / 0-)

              First of all, it's HRC, not HCR.  And it's "mainstream" only if you define that term as a group that goes along with whatever the folks in power want.  If by "mainstream" you mean "has the support of most LGBT people," then you'd be wrong.

              But to know that you'd have to know a good bit more about politics within the LGBT community than you appear to know.  

              I also don't think I'm reading in the wrong places.  I think David was the one who came up with the Orange to Blue questionnaire for Democrats, a questionnaire that, IIRC, originally included no questions on LGBT issues.  So it just strikes me as kind of funny that he's suddenly interested in "LGBT groups" now.

              "Ça c'est une chanson que j'aurais vraiment aimé ne pas avoir écrite." -- Barbara

              by FogCityJohn on Mon Oct 29, 2012 at 12:37:07 AM PDT

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  •  I don't know what's funnier (1+ / 0-)
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    That NC elects their Labor Commissioner, or that a Republican is in the lead.

    Romney '12: Berlusconi without the sex and alcohol!

    by Rich in PA on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 05:36:58 AM PDT

  •  Check Mourdock for signs of stigmata. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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    annieli, itskevin
  •  Rand tracking poll explodes today: O 52 R 45 (6+ / 0-)

    The Rand tracker is a little different in that it follows the same group of voters across the life of the campaign. Is this an indication of late breakers moving to Obama?

  •  2% GDP Q3 (1+ / 0-)
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    Not that it matters to national likely voters.

    "What do you mean "conspiracy"? Does that mean it's someone's imaginings and that the actual polls hovered right around the result?" - petral

    by conspiracy on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 05:43:00 AM PDT

  •  just in the last hour, a sizable bump for obama (1+ / 0-)
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    at princeton election consortium: up to a projected 299 EVs for the president

    Colorado has a much higher GDP than Utah because it is culturally superior

    by memofromturner on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 05:46:03 AM PDT

  •  what did judy do (0+ / 0-)

    change her name from bigot to biggert for political convenience.

  •  NY: Obama 59-35 (2+ / 0-)
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    jnhobbs, itskevin

    “The country tried everything Romney says, and it brought the economy to the brink of collapse”

    by Paleo on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 05:49:59 AM PDT

  •  Females moving in the wrong direction in WI-PRES (0+ / 0-)

    Obama has lead in 56 of 59 polls taken in Wisconsin so he's clearly ahead...

    He's dominating among women as well, but his support is subtlety declining; wonder if this will affect the WI-SEN race?

    •  Scott Rasmussen says Wisc is the new Ohio (1+ / 0-)
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      He is pretty much saying Romney is going to lose Ohio and needs to win Va and WI to get to 270. He then goes on to basically say republicans have the ground game in WI to win.
      Ras even says Romney very well could win the popular vote but not be able to hit 270.
      I think I would enjoy seeing that!

  •  Bigamy is not up to the states. (1+ / 0-)
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    Utah had to get rid of it to join the union. But I wish people on our side would stop running away from the bigamy question. As long as it involves consenting adults unrelated by blood, people should be allowed to form any relationship they want. (I'm not too troubled by the occasional case of incest, either, provided it's between consenting adults, but I realize that isn't going to go over well with the general populace).

    •  Most instances of bigamy and incest (2+ / 0-)
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      Khun David, sfbob

      have troubling questions of consent.  The notion of polyamorous relationships does not offend me on a moral level.  However, most modern instances of bigamy have involved force used against young girls.  at the same time, the government has a much more compelling interest in not recognizing polyamorous marriages.  Marriage entitles persons to certain state and federal benefits.  The government has a compelling financial interest in limiting these benefits to two people.  This is very different than with SSM where there really is no compelling government interest in restricting which two people can receive government benefits.

      "He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that." - J.S. Mill

      by dmsarad on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:13:31 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Legalized will help prevent abuse (0+ / 0-)

        Creating a legal framework for these relationships would help prevent the abuses that now occur. Leaving them as illegal means the people involved have no legal avenues to address their problems and everything stays in the shadows.

        •  You simply link to your opinion (1+ / 0-)
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          I am unconvinced.  Moreover, it does not address the legal angle.  From a constitutional perspective, the government probably only needs a rational basis to outlaw polygamy.  limiting the economic advantages of marriage to relationships involving only two persons probably satisfies this test.

          "He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that." - J.S. Mill

          by dmsarad on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 07:31:49 AM PDT

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    •  The hoops Utah had to jump through (0+ / 0-)

      in its pursuit of statehood don't support the proposition that bigamy is not up to the states; in fact arguably it suggests the opposite.  Remember that Utah (a non-state at the time, obviously) was not yielding to a federal law but to the preferences of Congress and the other states whose support was required for Utah's admission to the union.  If bigamy had not been a state matter, there would have been no need to ask Utah to change its own laws; Congress could simply have trumped them upon Utah's admission.

  •  Top headline on right now: (0+ / 0-)
    Is Obama still Kenya's favorite son?

    Under the New Deal we beat Hitler and put a man on the moon. The New Deal *defines* America.

    by VictorLaszlo on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 05:57:13 AM PDT

  •  The "moderate" Republican position (2+ / 0-)
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    on gay rights makes NO sense.  Judy Biggert wants to see what the courts have to say.  However, when the courts say that marriage equality is a constitutional right, the Republicans will scream about unelected judges imposing the law.  We need to call them on this.  Someone should ask her about the billion times Republicans have opposed SSM by attacking (and sometimes defeating) judges who voted in favor of SSM.

    "He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that." - J.S. Mill

    by dmsarad on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:02:12 AM PDT

    •  It's a shell game (0+ / 0-)

      I wrote a diary about the subject a few years ago, using the same description. When it comes to marriage equality, whichever way leads there is illegitimate and wrong. If the courts support it they're wrong and nothing more than unelected, activists judges. If the state legislature supports it, they've been bought off and probably broke a rule to pass the law. If the people support it, they've been seduced.

  •  IN Sen: Murdock internal showing a tie (5+ / 0-)

    “The country tried everything Romney says, and it brought the economy to the brink of collapse”

    by Paleo on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:23:05 AM PDT

  •  Iowa Gravis: Obama 50-46 (4+ / 0-)
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    “The country tried everything Romney says, and it brought the economy to the brink of collapse”

    by Paleo on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:24:25 AM PDT

  •  love it ! (5+ / 0-)
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    "She has not yet evolved. So, she's crawling out of the swamp or something," said Foster, a scientist, after the debate. Asked if he, too, had evolved on the issue, Foster replied, "I'm all dry, fluffed off and happy to be a hominid."
    I am seriously tempted to use that last part as my sig !

    I must be dreaming...

    by murphy on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:25:08 AM PDT

  •  FL SSN (R): Romney 51-46 (1+ / 0-)
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    They tried to hide the R.  And, of course, RCP goes along with them.  But it's R.

    “The country tried everything Romney says, and it brought the economy to the brink of collapse”

    by Paleo on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:26:46 AM PDT

    •  50% of the sample are conservatives (1+ / 0-)
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      and 21% of African-Americans are apparently supporting Romney.

      So my question is why is he only leading by 5 points?

      •  I particularly loved this part of the write-up (2+ / 0-)
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        The poll also suggests that Obama may be losing some support in the black community, as 21 percent of the respondents identifying themselves as African-American plan to vote for Romney.

        Lee noted that while some polls using "live" pollsters have pushed Obama numbers above 90 percent among black voters, those using automated polls have shown a more diverse outcome.

        “This would suggest perhaps Obama won't be on track to get 95 percent of the black vote this time, but only 90 percent or even less.”

        Yeah those live caller polls are so bad at picking up "diversity". Robopolls rule!
  •  Mr. Loaf and the Ohio culture of consumption (3+ / 0-)
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    “Meatloaf cakes,” Mr. Romney affirmed from the back of his charter plane as it idled on the tarmac in Ohio last week, explaining to the traveling press corps the special birthday meal his wife prepares for him every year. “She makes these little meatloaf cakes about that big,” he said, widening his hands to the size of a saucer, “and covers them with this sweet sauce.”

    1. For the meatloaf cakes: Heat oven to 350 degrees. In a large mixing bowl, combine the ground beef, crumbled bread or bread crumbs, egg, onion, lemon juice and seasoned salt. Mix lightly but thoroughly and shape into six small loaves. Space evenly on a baking sheet and bake for 15 minutes; meanwhile, prepare the sauce.

    yksitoista ulotteinen presidentin shakki. / tappaa kaikki natsit "Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) 政治委员, 政委‽ Warning - some snark above ‽

    by annieli on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:27:51 AM PDT

  •  So Biggert thought it was a good idea (1+ / 0-)
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    to bring up polygamy when their standard bearer is the grandson of a guy who fled to Mexico to avoid the U.S. ban on the practice?  In a reality-based world, the very least that would happen is she'd get a follow-up from the press.  Not holding my breath...

    -7.62, -7.28 "Hold fast to dreams, for if dreams die, life is a broken winged bird that cannot fly." -Langston Hughes

    by luckylizard on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:48:48 AM PDT

  •  RAss stays at 50-47 (1+ / 0-)
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    Job approval 48-51

    “The country tried everything Romney says, and it brought the economy to the brink of collapse”

    by Paleo on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:49:25 AM PDT

  •  PA Sen RAss: Casey 46-45 (3+ / 0-)
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    Yeah, whatever Scotty.

    “The country tried everything Romney says, and it brought the economy to the brink of collapse”

    by Paleo on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:50:21 AM PDT

  •  NC Gravis: Romney 53-45 (1+ / 0-)
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    “The country tried everything Romney says, and it brought the economy to the brink of collapse”

    by Paleo on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:53:23 AM PDT

  •  Estate Law? Let Me See Now... (1+ / 0-)
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    It's really pretty easy. With same-sex marriage, the default destination for the estate of one member of a same-sex couple is the other member, rather than the parents or siblings, where it belongs, at least as far as the bigots are concerned.

  •  OFA FP ad: (2+ / 0-)
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    Age 23. Voting in NJ-03. Lived most of life in NJ-01. Had Rush Holt represent me during my undergrad years and am now represented by Frank Pallone in my grad school.

    by KingofSpades on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:57:55 AM PDT

  •  NH: Obama 49-46 (9+ / 0-)

    First ever New England College poll.

    “The country tried everything Romney says, and it brought the economy to the brink of collapse”

    by Paleo on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:58:54 AM PDT

  •  We Ask America (3+ / 0-)
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    Anyone else notice how silent they have been? I guess their "client" has not been pleased withe the results they have been producing.

    They promised a series of polls once the debates were finished. Still haven't seen anything.

    2012: It's about the Supreme Court. Follow me on Twitter @farrellmcmanus

    by HarlemUSA on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:59:41 AM PDT

  •  NV Gravis: Obama 50-49 (2+ / 0-)
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    Gravis poll dump day.

    “The country tried everything Romney says, and it brought the economy to the brink of collapse”

    by Paleo on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:59:50 AM PDT

  •  IL-11: For the record the gay "groups" (2+ / 0-)
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    supporting Biggert seems to amount to just GOProud, from OpenSecrets:

    American Unity PAC was formed in June with more than $1 million in seed money and support from Paul Singer -- a hedge-fund manager known for his financial support of Republicans. Singer's donations have included $1 million to Restore Our Future, the super PAC backing GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, and $100,000 to the Club for Growth Action Fund super PAC. 
    And GOProud is mostly heterosexual and as grassroots as the Tea Party Express. Seed money man Paul Singer is heterosexual as is most of the board. They have almost zero grassroots donors, and few members.

    So it isn't surprising a "gay group" run by Republican heterosexuals doesn't have gay people's best interests at heart. Surprise!

    Supporter: "Senator, you have the vote of every thinking person!" Adlai Stevenson: "That's not enough, madam, we need a majority!"

    by Scott Wooledge on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 07:07:46 AM PDT

  •  NM-Sen; anyone catch the debate? (0+ / 0-)

    I happened across the debate between Heather Wilson and Martin Heinrich.  My conclusion?  

    Heinrich was pathetic.

    The last poll I saw had him comfortably ahead.  I hope so, because Wilson came across as intelligent and reasonable. (!) Heinrich came across as a lightweight, and he never responded to Wilson's repeated emphasis that Social Security is completely separate from the regular budget.  (Duh!).  All he had to do was point out that the slashing of SS taxes in the last few years has changed it from a net positive to a net negative, and mention the $2.5 trillion that technically resided with the SSA before the tax cuts.

    I do want to see Heinrich win, but only because he's the lesser evil.  I think his voting record stinks, mainly because he's been a consistent supporter of war spending.  

    This is one case where I hope no one watched the debate.

    I am become Man, the destroyer of worlds

    by tle on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 07:35:07 AM PDT

  •  Voting (0+ / 0-)

    Headlnes in Oregon paper---will hurricane affect election.
    Changes conversation.  PBO becomes presidential early voting?... Then Pa and voting booths
    Romney blames president. But
    If we are really really lucky he's carried to oz

  •  Alaska State Senate (1+ / 0-)
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    The Alaska state senate is the smallest house of a US State Legislature at 20 members, so everybody knows everybody (This ain't the New Hampshire house. :) )

    Back in 2006, the Senate elected 11 Republicans and 9 Democrats. The Republicans split 6-5 over who the party would propose as Senate President. The five refused to back the majority choice and eventually agreed with the Democrats to put the candidate of the five up as their nominee and built a 14 member coalition. Later one of the 6 remaining Republicans was brought into the coalition which had significant effects on the committees. Most commitees are 5 members. With a 14-6 majority, there are 3 majority and 2 minority members on each committee, with 15-5, there are 4 majority and 1 minority. The Democrats while not getting the Senate President or Majority leader positions, got chairmanship of several important committees. This Coalition plus or minus a member has survived through the 2008 and 2010 elections.

    Note, normally only 10 of the seats are up every two years, but with the Redistricting, 9 of the 10 who wouldn't have been up for re-election, had to stand for 2 year terms, so 19 of the 20 seats are up.

    It is very unlikely that the Republicans can break the coalition by electing 6 new Republicans to make a majority with the 5 non-coalition, but if you end up with 7 Democrats, 4 surviving Republican Coalition members and 9 anti-Coalition Republicans, who knows what happens.

    Note,  one of the State Senators has a District which is Larger than Montana.

  •  So Biggert's worry on estate law is that... (0+ / 0-)

    she might lose some business because marriage does away with the need for complicated and expensive legal arrangements and contracts? Did I get that right?

    •  Not to mention all the lawsuits that arise (0+ / 0-)

      when raging homophobic family members who wouldn't talk to their gay/lesbian relation or even sit in the same room with them suddenly become the dearest, closest relatives of the deceased. Those suits would kind of go away with marriage equality, wouldn't they? And where would that leave the lawyers?

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