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William Kristol, the NeoCon hidden-atheist Ayn Rand worshipper, connects  "Marvelous Mitt" with Cromwell's 1649 genocide in Ireland:

He nothing common did or mean
Upon that memorable scene...

-- from "An Horatian Ode Upon Cromwell’s Return From Ireland" cited in the Weekly Standard dated for November 5th, 2012.

Does Kristol want to kill more Irish ??? Or follow on the NeoCons killing 1,000,000 Iraqis with killing another 1,000,000 Iranians?

Does he hate Catholics the more, or love genocide? Does Kristol want a mass slaughter in Iran ???

Them eyes !

Lord Protector Cromwell on the left. "One Mighty and Strong" Romney on the right.

Super-size the Messiah Complexes for both.

Cromwell had returned after killing 50,000 Irish. That included Drogheda. Irish sources placed the civilian body count at 4,000 souls. Another 2,800 surrendered soldiers were killed. The single worst slaughter of noncombatants in the history of England and Ireland.

What is Kristol telling us ??? Romney's only brush with death involved Leola Anderson, who was not Catholic.

Only a dedicated anti-Catholic -- a hater of "Faith, Hope and Charity" and of Christ the Savior -- would have reason to know this poem and like it. Its cause is long dead.

What, other than some odd connection to genocide, has Kristol learned with this reminder to Romney ?

Lord Protector Cromwell ruled England, Scotland and Ireland from 1653 to 1658 when he died. He inflicted Round Head religious prescriptions, called Puritanism, on London and the English with varying success.

Killing Irish was his special treat. Plainly, he enjoyed practicing genocide against Catholics in Ireland and in Scotland. Nothing to rival the NeoCons with their crime of killing 1,000,000 Iranians. But for England and Ireland, the worst ever.

Andrew Marvell wrote the poem. Almost certainly he did that before the English learned what Cromwell had done in Ireland.

Cromwell won by genocide. Romney is at least trying to win the presidency by such lying as this democracy has never seen before.

Romney is carrying out a genocide on truths. That seems tame for the connection?

Or has Romney said something to display a low opinion of Catholics? We know he has slandered Bishop Jean Vilnet, blaming him in a long campaign to escape the truth about the death of Leola Anderson.

Mitt Romney's Driving Killed Leola Anderson. His Cover-Up Tale is Proved Dishonest

Does Mitt Romney hate Catholics for their weakness, letting him get away with that 1968 automobile accident?

What is happening here? We do not need another Oliver Cromwell.

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  •  he dated the article 5 days from now? (3+ / 0-)
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    George3, Shawn Russell, bontemps2012

    yes, the English were never the civilizing rulers in their colonies that they claimed to be.

    This Rover crossed over.. Willie Nelson, written by Dorothy Fields

    by Karl Rover on Wed Oct 31, 2012 at 07:25:40 PM PDT

  •  It's KRISTOL (4+ / 0-)

    not Krystol

    Am I right, or am I right? - The Singing Detective

    by Clem Yeobright on Wed Oct 31, 2012 at 07:26:20 PM PDT

  •  Kristol... (3+ / 0-)

    ...routinely engages in the kind of magical thinking that is typical of religionists  -- so what proof do you have that he is atheist?  

    That's just one of the inadequacies of this poorly reasoned diary....

  •  Kristol is not an atheist from what I've read (3+ / 0-)
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    Quicklund, KathleenM1, bontemps2012

    His religion is listed as Jewish by Wikipedia:

    What proof is there that he is an atheist?

    •  Kristol is exactly like Paul Ryan. (0+ / 0-)

      A gloss of religiosity for mass consumption and for children to encourage obedience, also like Mitt Romney, with utter selfishness beneath.

      "One Mighty and Strong" Romney is crazier. That was his nickname at BYU in Provo. It's the D&C tag for the Mormon Messiah -- an amazing overreach for a college sophomore.

      Then you look at what they say. What they do.

      "Magical thinking" is hypocrisy. Or perhaps you missed the megachurch sermons of Tom DeLay ???

  •  He has researchers too (0+ / 0-)

    The fact he published a snippet of a poem does not prove he knew of the poem before some aide or Google search brought it to his attention.

    I'm not sure what point is meant here, but there seems to be more than one misconception evident.

  •  Cromwell (1+ / 0-)
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    Oliver Cromwell was a man of his time. In 17th century England anti-Catholic feeling was very common. It was something like the anti-Communist views of mid 20th century Americans.

    Cromwell, by 17th century Puritan standards, was relatively liberal on religious matters. He accepted almost all Protestants and did not insist on imposing his particular sect on the entire population. It was only the Anglicans and Catholics that he did not like.

    One of the chronic political problems of the Commonwealth regime, was that it had too narrow a base. Having rejected the traditional constitution of King, Lords and Commons and the possible alternative of a government based on universal manhood suffrage, the regime faced a chronic crisis of legitimacy which was never resolved.

    Oliver Cromwell's personality and dominance of the army, papered over the cracks. His son, Lord Protector Richard Cromwell, proved completely inadequate to the task of running the country. The Protectorate ended and the army factionalised. General George Monck triumphed in a power struggle and arranged for the restoration of the King, because there was no other way to stabilise the political system.

    Anti Catholic feeling continued to be a major theme during the reign of King Charles II. The attempts to exclude the Catholic Duke of York from the succession to the throne failed, but as King James II he only lasted a few years.

    I am not sure what relevance the history has to modern US politics, but as usual the past is more complex than modern  polemicists may assume.

    There is no man alive who is sufficiently good to rule the life of the man next door to him. Sir Rhys Hopkin Morris, M.P.

    by Gary J on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 01:48:07 AM PDT

    •  What's "complex" about genocide ??? (0+ / 0-)

      Rage turns to slaughter, mass murder of noncombatants.

      Cromwell's slaughter of Irish people in 1649 was the worst such crime in the history of England and Ireland.

      Get over making excuses for it. "Thou shalt not kill" was well known.

      Kristol indeed lionizes Lord Protector Cromwell at the point of his greatest crime against humanity -- murdering 50,000 Irish -- and puts him up as a model for "One Mighty and Strong" Mitt Romney.

      •  Genocide? (1+ / 0-)
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        The point I was trying to make was that Cromwell was typical of his time and place. He may have treated the Irish a bit worse than other English commanders of the time would have, but it was a difference of degree rather than kind.

        I would not commend him as a role model for the 21st century, either in politics or warfare (or indeed religion).

        There is no man alive who is sufficiently good to rule the life of the man next door to him. Sir Rhys Hopkin Morris, M.P.

        by Gary J on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 06:20:19 AM PDT

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        •  "Cromwell was typical" is not true. (0+ / 0-)

          Henry V slaughtered surrendered prisoners twice, for which he was thought a murderer, and that in the early 15th century. The slaughters of the Thirty Years War -- having nothing to do with warfare -- are more the model.

          Law of war had been well established before Cromwell decided to loose his religious zealots on noncombatants.

          One could say that Sheldon Adelson is a typical donor. Not accurately.

    •  Cromwell tried for a "moral" society, which (0+ / 0-)

      included such things as closing theaters, banning make-up on women, enforcing no work on Sundays (including no walking except to church) and a variety of other ways to punish people for not following his religious views. I certainly see a parallel with his theocratic government and in what I fear from Republicans these days.

      And the parallel between "accepting" most Protestants and only trying to get rid of Catholics and Anglicans is similar to those today who "accept" all Christians but only want to get rid of or abridge the rights of Muslims.

      You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

      by sewaneepat on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 05:38:59 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

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