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U.S. Republican Presidential candidate Mitt Romney pauses as he gives his reaction to the Supreme Court's upholding key parts of President Barack Obama's signature healthcare overhaul law in Washington June 28, 2012.  Romney said on Thursday that the Amer
He's lying.
A new claim has crept into Mitt Romney's specious $716 billion Medicare lie, just to make it that much scarier to Medicare patients:
It matters to the senior who needs to get an appointment with a medical specialist, but is told by one receptionist after another that the doctor isn't taking any new Medicare patients; because Medicare has been slashed to pay for Obamacare.
NPR's health reporter debunks, with some help from the professor of public health policy at the University of Chicago, Harold Pollack.
"Not true," says Harold Pollack, a professor of public health policy at the University of Chicago. "I'm honestly rather baffled at the arguments that Governor Romney is making."

Now it is true that the law envisions reductions in Medicare. And some of that money will help pay for the rest of the law. And there are problems in some places with doctors not being willing to accept Medicare patients. But those two things aren't actually connected.

Now, there may be some doctors who would use this as an excuse to stop taking Medicare patients, and Rovner points out that the Romney campaign is basing this claim in part on a survey of doctors done in 2010 in which 30 percent said they'd stop taking new Medicare patients because of the law. And, she points out, "the survey had a response rate of only 2.4%, and more than two-thirds of those who responded started out with a self-described negative view of the law."

What's got Medicare doctors more worried now than anything is the political football that Republicans in Congress have made of the "doc fix," the annual exercise by Congress that prevents reimbursement rates for Medicare plummet. Since the GOP took the House, it has ended up being among the hostages regularly taken by Republicans. And the uncertainty does cause some doctors to decide to stop taking new patients.

But you've got to give Romney credit for creativity and his astounding ability to pack lies within larger lies. He's a master at that.

Keep the liar out of office. Please help President Obama finish strong.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 08:23 AM PDT.

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  •  romney's gone. obama's on. GOTV...!/! (7+ / 0-)

    consider these terms: ocean rise, weather re-patterning, storm pathology, drout famine, acceptance of nature

    by renzo capetti on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 08:29:28 AM PDT

  •  Professor Pollack says he's baffled (18+ / 0-)

    Let me help you, Professor:  Mitt Romney will say anything -- anything, anything -- to get elected.

    Glad I could clear that up for you.

    See you in Heaven if you make the list. R.E.M.

    by Akronborn on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 08:29:55 AM PDT

    •  Zactly (2+ / 0-)
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      createpeace, Calamity Jean

      The say anything, do anything, and never-mind the truth campaign is going down in flames but it should never be allowed to happen again.

      Behavior like Romney's should be talked about endlessly and mercilessly and he and his lying campaign shamed and shunned.

      We have to fix Citizens United or this is going to be the new normal.

      Perhaps one day the Fourth Estate will take their jobs seriously. Or not..

      by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 11:51:33 AM PDT

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  •  Perfect timing (5+ / 0-)

    Heard this during my commute. Another example of Romney lying, which seems to be the theme of the week - it should have been the theme of the year. I am disgusted that Mitt is this close to becoming President & stand with Rachel Maddow who said his lying should be a disqualifying character flaw.

    I'm pretty tired of being told what I care about.

    by hulibow on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 08:37:29 AM PDT

  •  Rmoney lies again. And in other news... (7+ / 0-)

    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 08:42:25 AM PDT

  •  We're going to bury this liar along with the rest (2+ / 0-)
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    D in Northern Virginia, Gorette

    Ground pounding, door knocking, car driving, one vote at a time and maybe finally after these lying fucking liars get ramrodded back into the wilderness, the GOP will STFU, STFD and let the god damn adults govern for once.

    --Enlighten the people, generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like spirits at the dawn of day. - Thomas Jefferson--

    by idbecrazyif on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 08:43:08 AM PDT

  •  NPR headline was Romney makes "baffling" (10+ / 0-)



    How about "dishonest?"  Or "false?"

    What is with the pathological fear of calling a lie a lie?

  •  About as accurate as Internet Polling. (0+ / 0-)

    Maybe even less.

    How much money does Romney/Bain make from Medicare Advantage, anyway?

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
    —Spike Milligan

    by polecat on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 09:32:05 AM PDT

  •  How about a succinct refutation (0+ / 0-)

    of this lie? A nice snappy comeback that we could all use on the phones, especially for those calls to Florida.

    •  What it cuts (5+ / 0-)
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      tb mare, gchaucer2, ferg, Gorette, Randtntx

      is how much Medicare reimburses hospitals and private health insurance companies and how much Medicare reimburses private, Medicare Advantage plans.

      Not doctors.

      "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

      by Joan McCarter on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 10:12:48 AM PDT

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      •  Cuts to doctors (0+ / 0-)

        have merely been temporarily postponed until after the election. There was to have been a 27% cut this past March. As of now, on January 1st there will be about a 30% cut to physician reimbursements. And that has most definitely resulted in doctors refusing to participate in Medicare—something that is not "new news," but rather an ongoing problem. It is also the case that the upcoming Medicare cuts to facilities indirectly affect doctors' income where these physicians are under contract.

        •  Repubs are playing with doc fix. If anyone is (3+ / 0-)
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          causing problems for Medicare patients, it's the teabaggers in Congress. Romney is just muddying the waters by throwing around accusations that are speculative at best and have little or nothing to do with Obamacare. He has nothing to back up his claims. He can't show one patient who has not been allowed to get medical care because some doctor might not want to take Medicare, which might or might not have two flibbits to do with Obamacare.

          Sadly, Romney's argument doesn't have to make sense. He just has to create confusion, and apparently it works. It sounds like he's even fooled you and some of the rich crybabies in the AMA.

          It's interesting that folks like Romney and Ryan always say they want to get medical costs under control and supposedly to shore up medicare. But, as soon as Obama take the first serious step to stopping Bush's attempt at privatizing Medicare, and roll back some of the overpayments to private Medicare Advantage programs, Republicans so oh no, we can't accept those sayings. We must immediately give that money back to the poor insurance companies.

          Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

          by tekno2600 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 11:28:41 AM PDT

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          •  Playing with numbers (0+ / 0-)

            The chronic override over the "doc fix" is a perfectly bipartisan boondoggle and always has been. For the most recent vote tallies, see here:

            And although Ms. McCarter wishes to hold to the distinction between the Medicare issue and the "doc fix" (I did note this as a longterm problem), part of the tradeoff accounting for Obamacare was the savings to Medicare, including the SGR. For some of the accounting tomfoolery involved, see here:

            •  No, Mr. hmi. Ms. McCarter made a distinction (0+ / 0-)

              between doc fix and Obamacare. That's where the disconnect is. Doc fix may be somethings that's causing long-term issues for Medicare (though nothing that can't be solved), but suddenly laying all that at the feet of Obamacare is incorrect.

              Furthermore, the "tradeoff accounting" in Obamacare merely ended some, but unfortunately not all, of the overpayments to Medicare Advantage that Bush put in place. If doctors accepted Medicare patients before Bush's privatization boondoggle, they would certainly accept them again if we went back to the same situation we had before Bush. Furthermore, this is not purely a situation of what "doctors want." Most of them realize in places like Florida that you take Medicare or you go out of business. Period. Hospitals also are not going to be turning this down. So, it's not just a bunch of individual doctors getting together and saying what they do and do not like. If they want to use their time constructively, they could focus their outrage on teabaggers who are messing with Medicare, and wing nuts like Paul Ryan who want to dismantle it.

              So, I say good day to you, sir. Your faux civility and profusion of links designed to create a false impression of even-handedness could be better used back at Rove propaganda headquarters.

              Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

              by tekno2600 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 12:50:13 PM PDT

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              •  If this is your best, (0+ / 0-)

                it seems kind of weak. But Pace,  I suspect that your own civility is pretty faux. Sadly, it was further attenuated by being based on almost-perfect misunderstanding of both your target and the actual facts (found in that 'profusion' of links—only four, I think, but it must look like an awful lot to your capacious mind).

                You probably didn't notice this, but your post is a farrago of "if doctors accepted," "if we went back to the same situation, "most of them realize," "hospitals also are not going to be." In sum: a bunch of counter-factuals and hoped-fors. So, someday, given all sorts of "maybes," events could turn out as  you hope. OTOH, as things are right now, I'll stick with what I posted.

                BTW: I did like that "sir," bit—been home a bit too long, watching Scarlett Pimpernel on TCM?

                Percy Blakeney: [before reciting his poem to Winterbottom] Slap me, I'm bubbling over with good humor this morning. Would you believe me, I've just written a masterpiece.
                Col. Winterbottom: Who, sir? You, sir?
                Percy Blakeney: Me, sir
                Col. Winterbottom: No, sir.
                Percy Blakeney: Yes, sir. All about this mysterious Pimpernel fellow. How it came to me Heaven only knows, because it was the busiest moment of the day. Damn me, I was tying my cravat.

                Hope you figure out how to tie your cravat.

                •  I'd like to see the good side in everyone, so I'm (0+ / 0-)

                  trying to do that here. But, this is one of the more unclear responses I have read in a long time. I don't know what "Pace" you're talking about. I feel I am spot on with the facts in this case. It has nothing to do with "counter-factuals" or "hoped-fors." We know what the situation was before Bush pulled his little "'Medicare' 'Advantage'" scheme (i.e. Privitization). So, rolling back these unsuccessful programs is not a bunch of ifs and buts. It's history. Stopping the overpayments makes sense. It wouldn't make Medicare any worse off than it was before Bush bollocksed it up in the first place. In fact, those savings are being used to strengthen the program and provide additional benefits to seniors. Romney is making the incredibly bizarre argument that cutting an inefficient part of a program and using those savings to shore up the rest of the program constitutes a massive theft from the program. The only people who will believe that argument are people who either don't really understand the issue or people who wrap themselves into so many semantic contortions that they are arguing more about arguing than about the original issue.

                  Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

                  by tekno2600 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 02:47:00 PM PDT

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        •  That's not Obamacare (2+ / 0-)
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          It's the "doc fix."

          "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

          by Joan McCarter on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 11:33:22 AM PDT

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      •  Ok let me play devil's advocate (0+ / 0-)

        I was actually in a conversation about this a couple of weeks ago and really could not answer the statement "Won't the hospitals and insurance plans just handle the loss in revenue by

        1. Charging higher rates
        2. Cutting coverage
        3. Trying every trick in the book to refuse pay for procedures

        Basically the question is "What forces the hospitals or insurance agencies to simply not pass the loss of revenue to others".

        So far my best answer to this is that although they would lose money with these changes, they get more revenue due to the mandate. So this really is about spreading out the costs to more people.

        •  The reason they accepted these cuts (1+ / 0-)
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          is that they new they'd be getting so many new paying customers when Obamacare is fully implemented. This wasn't an unknown for them, and they've planned for it.

          "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

          by Joan McCarter on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 11:34:34 AM PDT

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      •  In order to cut waste and abuse. Doesn't cut care! (0+ / 0-)

        "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

        by Gorette on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 11:48:13 AM PDT

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  •  Is it just me? (3+ / 0-)
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    Or does it seem that the Mittster is recently telling more lies than truths?

  •  Mitt-a-Morph should just take his Bluster Bus (1+ / 0-)
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    and find a nice cliff, preferably without taking the American people along for a ride.

    I love the look in peoples eyes when they realize, for the first time, that they have power.

    by 4democracy on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 10:10:19 AM PDT

  •  Aww, it's sweet of him to be so concerned (4+ / 0-)
    It matters to the senior who needs to get an appointment with a medical specialist, but is told by one receptionist after another that the doctor isn't taking any new Medicare patients; because Medicare has been slashed to pay for Obamacare.
    So we can take this as his pledge to aggressively fund and staff more safety-net clinics?  

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 10:11:12 AM PDT

  •  He's a lying fraud. And he's desperate. He's been (3+ / 0-)
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    running for Potus for a decade and he's about to lose. He's really depraved. Depraved.

    "Say little; do much." (Pirkei Avot: 1:15)

    by hester on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 10:13:55 AM PDT

    •  Yes, really. Has he ever said anything truthful? (0+ / 0-)

      That's what I am asking, because I don't think so.

      "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

      by Gorette on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 11:50:37 AM PDT

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  •  supply and demand (2+ / 0-)
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    Mr MadAsHell, Calamity Jean

    Most gerontologist's offices would be quite empty if they refused medicare--same for orthopedists and other specialties.  Very few general practitioners refuse medicare patients--except those that cater to the rich.  Medicare for all is the only system that makes sense--throws out all the doomsday scenarios.  

    Apres Bush, le deluge.

    by melvynny on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 10:15:39 AM PDT

  •  He gets away with it (1+ / 0-)
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    This tendency to outright lie should have disqualified him months ago. But 1) the media won't say "lie", and 2) many in the electorate, frankly, are voting from some nasty vandal strain. I'm serious. The ones who just want "change?" They just can't deal with stability, I think.

    That's probably only 5-10% of the voters, but it's a decisive percentage. They tend to veer from one party to another. They just don't like whatever and vote AGAINST not for.

    I have a host of acquaintances like that, the ones who take some irrational dislike early on, and nothing will sway them. "Obama apologized!" maybe... and that's it.
    Or the closer the election get, the more frisky they get. Let's overturn everything!  (This is what got Bush close enough that SCOTUS could give him the presidency.) "Let's make trouble! Let's get rowdy!" These people identify with the tea party because it can get destructive and they like that, but if there was a viable anarchist-leftist wing, they might next election identify with that.

    I have no respect for this as they don't care about any real-life consequences for their irrational actions.

    And this group is growing in power. I have no objection at all to voters who vote the other way because they have different values or interests than I do. That's democracy. But these wild-swinging "I just don't like that guy" voters? Of course, they have the same right to vote that you and I do. But the media focus on them makes them even more powerful.

  •  We need a Romnolie-meter!!! (1+ / 0-)
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    Mr MadAsHell

    Seriously, is this the last dicth effort of a lost campaign!?!

    Can someone who thinks he is winning really be this desperate!!!

    Lie through your teeth to the very end..........

    The lies are coming fast and furious, soon he will say Obama is not an American, (old lie yes, but desperate times need desperate measures) where will this end.............

    Romnolie-meter By ACME, get one now.......oops another lie.....and another......oh yeat again....the meter is going to explode!!!!

  •  Doctors have been moving in this (1+ / 0-)
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    direction for years -- decades even.  Taking Medicare patients doesn't really help their bottom line.  This isn't anything new, and it sure as HELL didn't start with Obamacare.

    The problem is that it only takes a few seconds to tell a lie, but it takes days, weeks, or even months or years to rebut one.  And with the clock running out on ®Money, he'll be flinging one lie after another out there knowing there won't be enough time left to fact check all of it.

    Worse yet, he could probably pass a polygraph while spewing his bullshit. this man has no humanity whatsoever.  None.  He's Machiavelli on nitrous oxide.

    I'll believe corporations are people when one comes home from Afghanistan in a body bag.

    by mojo11 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 10:20:46 AM PDT

    •  Just to clarify (0+ / 0-)

      The diary says that it is a Romney "lie"  that doctors are turning away medicare patients.   You say its been going on for years.  I actually agree with you  and have experienced what Romney is claiming with my own aging family members.   It has been getting harder to get doctors you want under medicare  and frankly  its hard to see how the problem would not increase under the Obamacare scenario.  Medicare is in the process of being slammed  by the baby boom generation right at the time Obama wants to cut payments.   It really doesn't matter whether you parse the definition of who gets cut-  doctors need hospitals for many procedures so cutting hospital payments  can affect doctors in an indirect manner.  As seniorhood approaches for  me and my wife, alarm bells go off when a program  for the elderly we paid into for years expecting decent services after retirement looks like it could be diminished by transferring funds to a new program for healthier younger people.     Senior or soon to be senior voters need to consider this carefully  and Obama supporters need to present better arguments than "Romney is a lying liar".

      •  Not Caused by "Obamacare" (1+ / 0-)
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        Romney's statement is a lie because he lays the projected cuts to physicians at Obamacare's door.  Obamacare does not cause the cuts.  The cuts have been planned in Medicare for a decade now.  The Congress and especially the Republicans in Congress who cater to the doctor's guild have voted to temporarily rescind those cuts every few years.  Romney is just claiming that Obamacare is responsible for the cuts, which is demonstrative lie, period.  That's the argument which refutes Romney's claim and it should be made to any fool who wants to parrot the Obamacare is causing this canard.

        "Love the Truth, defend the Truth, speak the Truth, and hear the Truth" - Jan Hus, d.1415 CE

        by PrahaPartizan on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 11:05:51 AM PDT

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      •  Yes (0+ / 0-)

        this is the argument I have been hearing. I have not heard it effectively countered.

      •  Based on estimates by the CBO (1+ / 0-)
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        the Romney/Ryan plan would run the Medicare trust fund dry before the next election while the Obama plan keeps it solvent until 2030 (I think?).  I suppose those estimates are open to interpretation, but that's the information I think most of us are using as a basis for argument.

        But with people getting more stubborn about dying, you're right -- there will be a growing number of people falling into the Medicare age bracket, so the plan needs a more permanent solution.  And I'm in that age bracket that will just miss the R/R "grandfather" clause for people 55 and older, so I understand the alarm bells.

        But capping benefits isn't it.

        Like every other large-scale program, there are redundancies and inefficiencies that taken collectively would probably change the landscape dramatically.  One story that got some attention here about a year ago dealt with a Medicare beneficiary who needed a wheelchair while rehabbing from surgery.  But because he wouldn't need the wheelchair permanently, Medicare would only lease it for the period where his doctor said he'd need it. On the surface, that sounds prudent right?  Until you know that the rental payments would total about $1300, when Medicare could have bought the chair outright for $165.

        That's one claim involving one Medicare patient.  Amplify that by millions of claims per year, and if only 1% of them are similarly flawed (and we can identify and correct those situations -- a capital "IF") we're looking at a very different financial picture.

        None of this, however, alters the fact that ®Money is a lying liar.

        I'll believe corporations are people when one comes home from Afghanistan in a body bag.

        by mojo11 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 11:15:57 AM PDT

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  •  Mitt, whose secret identity is the... (1+ / 0-)
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    ..."Flame Red Liar, Liar Pants on Fire Deceiver" of the new series "Mighty Morphin' Medicare Deceivers"

    When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

    by Egalitare on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 10:25:57 AM PDT

  •  This trend started before Obama. (0+ / 0-)

    I live in a rural area and this trend of denying Medicare patients started during the Bush years. It is because of the Medicare rates are too low for Drs to make money on. In order to entice Drs to accept them there should be some sort of incentive program if they do. The problem rises in my observation is that Medicare rates are set below what private insurance companies would pay. Why is this?

  •  This is the type of lie you toss out there (3+ / 0-)
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    when your internals show Florida slipping away.   Mitt is hoping that the medicare scare will catch fire and not his pants.

  •  I've been employed in heathcare (2+ / 0-)
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    for 15 years and for that entire time many docs, especially primary care providers, will occasionally decline new Medicare patients.

    Mitt is just such a lying weasel.  

    Re-elect Barack Obama and elect Elizabeth Warren "Mitt Romney...utterly devoid of charm and mildly offensive."

    by al23 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 10:33:30 AM PDT

  •  Edit needed (1+ / 0-)
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    the "doc fix," the annual exercise by Congress that prevents reimbursement rates for Medicare plummet
    Prevents rates plummet? I am disappointment in your grammar.

    It isn't what we don't know that gives us trouble, it's what we know that ain't so. — Will Rogers

    by dconrad on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 10:36:54 AM PDT

  •  Lying is definitely (3+ / 0-)
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    PrahaPartizan, Gorette, DSPS owl

    a character flaw that disqualifies Romney from ever being President. How could he ever be trusted? What kind of horrible example would this set for people especially children? We cannot have such a dishonest liar in chief in the role of President of the United States. It would permanently dishonor the office and I am not willing to let that happen. He should not only lose the election. He should be held accountable for his lies....who does he think he is to treat people like that. Oh...I remember. He thinks he is above ordinary people and entitled. He is such a loser.

  •  Waiting To See The Books About This Campaign (1+ / 0-)
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    Right from the start it seemed that they relished in basing attacks on lies and distortions.

  •  This is EVIL. MSM you better freaking call (1+ / 0-)
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    this one out!

    I can't even read your comments right now ...I am so struck dumb by this

  •  Someone who throws around that $716 billion figure (1+ / 0-)
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    DSPS owl

    is running errands for the health insurance companies that have 'Medicare Advantage' programs.  Those programs are overpaid for taking care of their cherry-picked members -- overpaid by $716 billion.

    We're all pretty strange one way or another; some of us just hide it better. "Normal" is a dryer setting.

    by david78209 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 11:31:13 AM PDT

  •  Today heard ad or speech, Romney saying Obama (0+ / 0-)

    "has cut $700million from Medicare and it's hurting seniors!"

    I hate Republicans for their constant lying. Can't win with the facts, make stuff up. It is part of their culture to do that, a BIG part of their culture. And they don't care.

    For once I'd like to see Dems do this for one week, come out with outlandish lies about the GOP and at the end of the week say, sorry, we were just giving you a dose of your own medicine/lies. But we have to much integrity to do that for a day let alone a week! We just can't even think in those terms, of making crap up to get an advantage! We are two different kinds of humans as research is pointing out it seems.

    "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

    by Gorette on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 11:45:29 AM PDT

  •  Plan A Plan B and the Romneylie (0+ / 0-)

    This latest Romney lie is based on a conflation of Medicare plan A (hospitals nursing homes and home health care agencies financed by a dedicated payroll tax) and plan B (office care financed 1/4 by premiums and 3/4 from general revenues).

    The Obamacare Medicare compensation cuts are part of plan A and apply only to hospitals, nursing homes and home health care agencies.  Receptionists talking about the doctor would be dealing with Medicare plan B which is not cut at all by Obamacare.

    Congress people noticed that it is impossible to squeeze doctors with office practices who can and do refuse to deal with the CMS.  They also noticed that they have hospitals nursing homes and home health care agencies by the short hairs.  Totally aside from the fact that these institutions will be much better off because of Obamacare coverage expansion, they just can't say no to the CMS without going bankrupt.  Their deal is if they refuse one Medicare patient, they get zero dollars from Medicare and Medicaid.  

    The Romney claim is a lie as usual.

    explanation here

  •  Another lie, piled on all the other lies. (0+ / 0-)

    Between us, Joe and I have a ton of specialists. Not one has refused to see us because we are on Medicare. And, I am willing to bet "10,000 dollars" that not one of them will drop us, including our regular doctor, after full implementation of the ACA.

    I think, therefore I am. I think.

    by mcmom on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 12:25:52 PM PDT

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