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Looking forward, a hint at what's to come in the lame duck Congressional session, the prospects of a "Grand Bargain," and How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Laughing at the Misnomer "Fiscal Cliff."

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  •  I don't know if you read comments at all (2+ / 0-)
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    ferg, Eric Nelson

    before or during your show, but on the Chicken Little Fiscal Cliff front, I'm seeing the usual suspects on the Democratic side like Ed Rendell starting to make media appearances and basically not only supporting the notion that it will be apocalyptic if Obama and the Congress do not address the issue right away - and also pushing the notion that we need to take it easy on Boner because we have to work with him on other big issues down the line.

    I've heard this shit before and frankly we've gotten a lot of substandard legislation as a result of this approach AND the GOP has not voted for any of the bills when they could avoid doing so.  The idea that if we are "nice" to Republicans then they will be nice to us, is folly - they never repay the kindnesses and concessions they are given.  When are we going to finally toss out that old stupid play book and put them on the spot?

    •  Hopefully Patty Murray will keep others in line (0+ / 0-)
      She went on, saying, "if we can’t get a good deal—a balanced deal that calls on the wealthy to pay their fair share —then I will absolutely continue this debate into 2013, rather than lock in a long-term deal this year that throws middle-class families under the bus."
      Jared Bernstein, from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, said on Thursday's The Last Word that "the fact is that nobody, Patty Murray included, wants to go over this cliff as the first best option."
      But, as a CBPP study showed, the notion of it being a "cliff" at all is flawed. Allowing the automatic cuts to go into effect will not trigger an immediate recession. According to the report: "If current law initially takes effect — causing various income and payroll tax cuts to expire on January 1, emergency unemployment insurance (UI) to expire while joblessness remains very high, and across-the-board spending cuts to kick in on top of the discretionary cuts that the 2011 Budget Control Act caps mandate — the economy will indeed start down a slope that could ultimately lead to a recession in 2013.  But that's a far cry from the economy falling off a cliff and plunging immediately into recession." - emphasis added
      So it's not really a cliff, as the republicans are trying to spin it into as Democratics trying to kill the economy.

      Democrats have the leverage to get things done here.
      Berstein lays it out:

      Bernstein told Last Word host Lawrence O'Donnell that Murray and a few others recognize "that we can't achieve a sustainable budget path without new revenues. Grover Norquist has very successfully blocked that blatant reality for a very long time. And if he can be broken on this, and it takes going over the cliff, or, as we think of it, starting down a slope that we can reverse and come back up quickly, that would be a quite positive things for the economy and for fiscal policy." - emphasis added
  •  Things to look forward to. (1+ / 0-)
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    Eric Nelson

    An end to the myth that there's not enough money.

    Repealing the 22nd Amendment to enable competent executives to serve more than two terms, if not consecutively, at least not as a life-time limit. Term limits were a bad idea, concocted by people who like the idea of a rotating kingship and don't expect more from the king than that he look good and be able to sign his name.

    The public viewing of the thousands of images of attrocities in Iraq. Some people only believe what they can see, so they have to be exposed to the evidence.

    Holding Congress to account for the dperivation of rights embodied in the PATRIOT Act.

    We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

    by hannah on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 09:22:26 AM PST

  •  Republicans can block allSupreme Court nominations (1+ / 0-)
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    Eric Nelson

    Without filibuster reform Republicans could block any and all Supreme Court nominations. Elections should have consequences.

    Would you please talk about filibuster reform more on the show?

    Brand new favorite RSS feed of Daily Kos Radio Podcasts http://kagrox.libsyn.com/rss
    Jobs, Jobs, Jobs

    by We Won on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 10:58:47 AM PST

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