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I'm sure someone much quicker on the draw has already pointed this out, but I think there's a big reason this election gave us FOUR gay marriage amendment wins and three new states that will soon be celebrating gay marriages after a long drought at the polls on this topic.  I know gay marriage is gaining more and more acceptance amongst the electorate, and there have been polls showing that a slim majority of Americans think that our fellow LGBT citizens should have the right to marry the love of their lives.  But that's not what I'm talking about.

I'm thrilled these four ballot measures passed (in the case of MN, that the anti-gay marriage amendment didn't pass!), because I remember in 2008 that it was a serious blow that Prop 8 had passed in CA.  It felt like a real kick to the gut that so many Californians would overturn the right of gay couples to marry.  To me, and many others, Prop 8 really dampened our enthusiasm after the election.  

But this time we have these four victories to celebrate in addition to being thrilled with President Obama's win.  And what is the big difference between 2008 and 2012???  In 2012, President Obama came out in SUPPORT OF GAY MARRIAGE!!!!!!!   He cut ads SUPPORTING the three gay marriage amendments!!  For the first time EVER, we had a President of the United States saying that ALL Americans should have the right to marry who they choose.  

Yes, the electorate would have eventually gotten there on its own, but I don't think that it's a coincidence that in 2008, CA passed Prop 8 and four years later, after the President "evolved" to believe that all Americans truly were equal and came out and publicly supported gay marriage, we have FOUR BIG WINS on election night.

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  •  We Marylanders are happy as clams about this. (6+ / 0-)

    I did some volunteer work for Question 6 (the reaffirmation of our marriage equality legislation that allows the law to be implemented). And a friends of my daughter's, who started a GLOW club (Gay Lesbian Or Whatever) at their middle school made signs and took them to their polling place. Think of the reaction of people to a few 12-year-old girls holding up home made signs supporting marriage equality (compounded by the fact that our polling place is at our Temple which has a big "Vote for Question 6" banner at the front).

    We're not perfect, but they're nuts! -- Barney Frank

    by Tamar on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 11:31:12 AM PST

  •  I'm Overjoyed at Tuesday's Results... (1+ / 0-)
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    MusicalTheatreMichelle

    The memory of Prop H8's passage is still fresh for us California LGBTQE folk, and we're fighting like hell for equality to finally be the Law of the Land.

    The act of finally receiving a civil right, then having it taken away by fundamentalist whackjobs, is something that should NOT happen in this country. Ever.

    The usual-suspect fundies and Papists are naturally completely losing their shit, and I couldn't be happier. I think we just might achieve full participation in the American experiment as complete, equal citizens. And on that day I plan to gloat loudly in the faces of people like Maggie Gallagher Srivistav and Brian Brown and Tony Perkins and Bryan Fischer and all those disgusting anti-LGBTQE Christianists. They will be shamed, and shunned, and scorned ever after for their hatred and dickishness.

    Shorter version: Neener-neener, haters! Your Use By date has passed. Just shuffle off to irrelevance with Donald Trump and Karl Rove already.

    -8.75,-8.00. 1,138 rights and responsibilities of civil marriage are denied married same-sex couples, and I demand that we get them. RIGHT. NOW.

    by CajunBoyLgb on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 11:40:10 AM PST

  •  marriage equality vs gay marriage terminology (1+ / 0-)
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    sarvanan17

    In this election the term "marriage equality" seems to have been used more often than "gay marriage".  I wonder if that "marriage equality" term was poll-tested and found to be more acceptable to swing voters.  

    When the U.S. Supreme Court considers in conference on Nov. 20 whether it will hear the appeal of Calif Prop 8 from the 9th Circuit and/or the appeals of the overturns of DOMA by the 1st and 2nd Circuits, the Justices will no doubt have in their minds that 4 states on November 6 voted in favor of marriage equality.  Previously, we had what 32 of 32 losses on statewide votes on marriage equality.  In some small measure perhaps the November 6 results may persuade one or more Justices to conclude that the "time has come" to accept marriage equality.  Or perhaps the Court will do the opposite and eventually issue its own "Dred Scott" decision.

  •  Maine Gay Marriage Initiative Expanded Electorate (2+ / 0-)
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    sarvanan17, phonegery

    There were long lines at the polls on Election Day to register to vote, especially in college towns (e.g., Orono and Farmington) and larger cities (e.g., Bangor). Lots of new voters, most of them young, came to the polls to vote for same-sex marriage.  Most also voted for Obama. This was a clear case of his benefiting from the public stand he took. Karma.

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