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My day job precludes me from writing too long a diary on this, but happy to comment, and let the subject in question speak for himself.

The editor of Libertarian Republican has resigned in the wake of the thorough trashing of the GOP on Tuesday. And what he says by way of goodbye is downright interesting.

Today starts a new course for my life. I've soured on electoral politics given what happened last night. I believe now the best course of action is outright revolt. What do I mean by that?

Well, to each his own. Some may choose to push secession in their state legislatures. Others may choose to leave the U.S. for good (Costa Rica, Switzerland, Italy, Argentina, Hong Kong, Israel). Still others may want to personally separate themselves from the United States here in North America while still living under communist rule' the Glenn Beck, grab your guns, food storage, build bunkers, survivalist route. I heartily endorse all these efforts.

Jeez. There's butthurt in electoral politics, and then there are calls from armed anti democratic insurrection. I thought libertarians believed in the sanctity of the individual.

Not so, it seems, if you are the ideological enemy. Eric Dondero urges his readers to "Express your hatred, shame, and outright disgust with anyone you know who voted Democrat"

What does that mean? Defiling your neighbours lawns for one. But it goes on

Starting early this morning, I am going to un-friend every single individual on Facebook who voted for Obama, or I even suspect may have Democrat leanings. I will do the same in person. All family and friends, even close family and friends, who I know to be Democrats are hereby dead to me. I vow never to speak to them again for the rest of my life, or have any communications with them. They are in short, the enemies of liberty. They deserve nothing less than hatred and utter contempt.

I strongly urge all other libertarians to do the same. Are you married to someone who voted for Obama, have a girlfriend who voted 'O'. Divorce them. Break up with them without haste. Vow not to attend family functions, Thanksgiving dinner or Christmas for example, if there will be any family members in attendance who are Democrats

I thought only Stalinists were guilty of equating a person with their ideology. But in a brown red shift, the libertarian editor has gone full tilt into pure ideological venom:
There are so many other nasty little things I plan to do against the communists and those who support them. Perhaps I'll keep Jim informed and he can report on my activities here at LR.

For now, off to my first assignment: Telling all my friends and family who voted for Obama to "fuck off, don't ever speak to me again you slimeball mother fuckers." Wish me luck!

So there we have it: libertarianism is reverting to hate speech, and hate speech is the precursor of hate crimes. I always thought there was something Pre-Hobbesian about an ideology which reduces everything to a binary authority/liberty axis, and makes the state the only threat to individuals.

From the sound of this guy, the threat comes from somewhere else

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  •  We survived 8 years of Dubya. They can survive (13+ / 0-)

    8 of Obama.

    That this guy feels he can't means he is just pathetic, weak, and cowardly.

    Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

    by blue aardvark on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 02:42:22 PM PST

  •  Gotta admit I've had those feeling myself (7+ / 0-)

    from time to time, on the other side of the aisle of course.   BUT, I have so far maintained the good sense not to publicly express them broadcast, let alone act on them.  I like to think my forebrain is in charge, here.

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 02:42:57 PM PST

  •  There's a typo in your title: (10+ / 0-)

    "Always been" isn't spelled b e c o m e.

    Republicans believe you need an ID to vote but you can donate millions to any candidate completely anonymously. (h/t jbou)

    by Calouste on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 02:43:48 PM PST

  •  What a whiny baby having a temper tantrum. (6+ / 0-)

    By all means, Mr. Libertarian editor of some obscure RW noise machine, do take your toys and exit.

    "On their backs were vermiculate patterns that were maps of the world in its becoming. Maps...of a thing which could not be put back. Not be made right again."

    by middleagedhousewife on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 02:46:27 PM PST

    •  I just hope those toys don't include weapons (4+ / 0-)

      As suggested...

      The Fall of the House of Murdoch -with Eric Lewis and all the latest Leveson evidence out now!

      by Brit on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 02:48:19 PM PST

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      •  It looks like he plans to yell at Walmart clerks. (13+ / 0-)
        When I'm at the Wal-mart or grocery story I typically pay with my debit card. On the pad it comes up, "EBT, Debit, Credit, Cash." I make it a point to say loudly to the check-out clerk, "EBT, what is that for?" She inevitably says, "it's government assistance." I respond, "Oh, you mean welfare? Great. I work for a living. I'm paying for my food with my own hard-earned dollars. And other people get their food for free." And I look around with disgust, making sure others in line have heard me.

        I am going to step this up. I am going to do far more of this in my life. It's going to be my personal crusade. I hope other libertarians and conservatives will eventually join me.

        What strategery!  Being a public, giant douche-bag is a sure way to influence people to one's way of thinking!

        "On their backs were vermiculate patterns that were maps of the world in its becoming. Maps...of a thing which could not be put back. Not be made right again."

        by middleagedhousewife on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 02:52:07 PM PST

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      •  Glen Beck is suggesting that you get your guns (6+ / 0-)

        now so you will be grandfathered in when the 2nd amendment goes bye-bye. Also buy farmland. Lots of farmland. Stock up on supplies.

        Libertarian "philosophy" is essentially immature. You find an idea you like and you grip it like a GI Joe Kung Fu grip. Never let go. Never re-examine or re-think. Stand steadfast in the face of logic and facts. Ignore all intellectual progress since the Scholastic Era.

        It is political fundamentalism. And I mean that in a technical sense. It is a reaction against modernity. It is not based on the values this country was founded on. It is the way some people express their fear of the future. It is not very sophisticated. It is simplistic and tries to assume a veneer of intellectual respectability.  

        •  most of these assclowns ... (2+ / 0-)
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          ... don't know libertarianism from fascism or from radical islam anyway

          All they know is that the want their drugs and prostitution legal, go into hiding in the wildlands with their guns and ammo, and hell damn the rest.

          Oh, and they want their politicians to flip the bird at people not like them.

          SCOTUS did what?!!?

          by wystler on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 03:52:34 PM PST

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  •  Phahahahaha!! I clicked the link. What a subtle (4+ / 0-)
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    Time to tell any Democrats you know to fuck off and die

    "On their backs were vermiculate patterns that were maps of the world in its becoming. Maps...of a thing which could not be put back. Not be made right again."

    by middleagedhousewife on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 02:48:03 PM PST

  •  Anti-Americanism (4+ / 0-)

    plain and simple.

    Call it what it is.

    Please proceed, Governor.

    by vivadissent on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 02:48:14 PM PST

  •  First rule of staging a successful Revolution, (7+ / 0-)

    don't advertise the fact on the internet. When you do, it's obvious you're venting and in the end, just blowing smoke.

    Hate's going to eat that guy's lunch.

    "The human eye is a wonderful device. With a little effort, it can fail to see even the most glaring injustice." Richard K. Morgan

    by sceptical observer on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 02:50:39 PM PST

  •  How tragic. (7+ / 0-)

    They lost an election in large part because they refused to reach out to people unlike themselves. And now they narrow the circle further.

    That'll work.

    Fuck me, it's a leprechaun.

    by MBNYC on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 02:57:36 PM PST

  •  A jerk like that has friends? (6+ / 0-)
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    I can't imagine anyone who voted for Obama is a friend of his. Maybe there are family members.

    I think what we are seeing here is a some kind of psychotic break resulting from extreme cognitive dissonance.

  •  your use of the word "become" is inaccurate (3+ / 0-)
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    libertarianism has always been the refuge of illiberal violent authoritarian xenophobes who want to avoid being called out on their twisted and malicious worldview, and so cloak their beliefs in the high-flown, noble-sounding rhetoric of "freedom" and "liberty."

    When really, they're nothing more than...well, illiberal violent authoritarian xenophobes.

    "In America, the law is king." --Thomas Paine

    by limpidglass on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 03:07:13 PM PST

    •  actually ... (4+ / 0-)
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      ... real libertarianism is anti-authoritarian

      but all kinds of jerks claim to be such, because they don't wanna deal with criminal sanctions for their dope, and they want easy legal access to prostitution, without any further appreciation for the nature of libertarianism beyond pay-less-taxes

      SCOTUS did what?!!?

      by wystler on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 03:56:03 PM PST

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  •  Libertarians are spoiled brats (2+ / 0-)
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    They are the "party" of self-absorbed, egotistical narcissists who want what they want without consequence. Basically, overgrown 3-year olds.

    "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" - Red Green

    by FlashfyreSP on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 03:16:21 PM PST

  •  In my political conversations on facebook (1+ / 0-)
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    I try to be the voice of reasoned discourse. I explain my argument in detail providing factual examples. Many conservative friends are open to these kinds of discussions but the real hard core conservatives generally do not reply to my comments after I point out the flaws in their thinking. I just get silence.

    It is like that have an urge to rant they get it out of their system and then they do not want to play anymore. Like a spoiled child. Or Cartman "Screw you guys I'm going home"

  •  What is it with these folk? (3+ / 0-)
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    Leave the US, by all means. Go seek refuge in a country more akin to your world view ... be my guest.

    However, these:

    Others may choose to leave the U.S. for good (Costa Rica, Switzerland, Italy, Argentina, Hong Kong, Israel).
    How are these countries part of the Libertarian Paradise?

    Did Canada reject you?

    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    by twigg on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 03:25:44 PM PST

    •  I can't imagine they would be happy (3+ / 0-)
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      in any of those locations. Lots of brown people, lots of socialism, and, at least in Argentina, lots of teh gayz gettin' hitched.

      Their world view is fucked so I guess all they've got left is being douchbags to their friends and family.

      The only difference between (Mitt) Romney and George W. Bush is that Romney hasn't destroyed the American economy, yet - MoT

      by Herodotus Prime on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 03:31:37 PM PST

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  •  You misspelled (1+ / 0-)
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    "has always been"

    The only way to ensure a free press is to own one

    by RedDan on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 03:26:18 PM PST

  •  Wow (1+ / 0-)
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    He'll be missed at Thanksgiving I'm sure.

    Maybe we could introduce him to this poor suffering conservative woman. She's lonely.

    Sure they'd make a great couple.

    A society is judged by how well it cares for those in the dawn of life, the children. By how well it cares for those in the twilight of life, the elderly. And, by how well it cares for those on the edge of life; the poor, the sick, and the disabled.

    by BobBlueMass on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 03:34:53 PM PST

  •  Where does he want the flowers sent (2+ / 0-)
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    when somebody beats his ass for being a dick.

    Not all Democrats are peace-loving hippies.

    However, this is probably all bluster, too big a coward to really do this things.

    "Drudge: soundslike sludge, islike sewage."
    (-7.25, -6.72)

    by gougef on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 03:36:12 PM PST

  •  What an infantile tantrum (1+ / 0-)
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    His side loses an election so he's going Galt and scorching the earth as he goes. My money says there will be more people glad to see the backside of this shitstain than those upset by it. Anyone who would go so far as cutting off parents and spouses over ideological differences has some real problems.

    Oh, and he's a hypocritical shitstain while I'm at it. He uses our public infrastructure , probably attended public schools, and he thinks he has the right to humiliate and  yell at people in stores because they need food stamps? I won't be surprised if someday this walking pustulation's name is featured in a story about someone who snapped and went on a spree of violence.

  •  OK, the election was a big deal (1+ / 0-)
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    But I think he's overreacting just a tad.

    16, Progressive, Indian-American, Phillies Phan. Obama/Om/Chase Utley

    by vidanto on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 04:30:28 PM PST

  •  I've met sincere libertarians and fake ones. (1+ / 0-)
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    These turkeys are fakes.

    "Mistress of the Topaz" is now available in paperback! Link here:

    by Kimball Cross on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 04:41:03 PM PST

    •  The sincere ones probably weren't Republican (1+ / 0-)
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      There's a whole bunch of people trying to figure out ways to get the most social good with the minimum of oppression. They also love to talk to people, to a fault. This business of disowning family is an authoritarian trip.

      •  No, the sincere ones were deeply skeptical of (0+ / 0-)

        both parties. OTOH, on-line I have encountered misogynist libertarians, homophobic libertarians, libertarians for waterboarding, ad nauseum.

        "Mistress of the Topaz" is now available in paperback! Link here:

        by Kimball Cross on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:54:46 AM PST

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  •  And yet, what has Obama done to this person (1+ / 0-)
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    such that he feels physical and emotional violence (of a sorts) is his best response to the election?

    It's not as if Obama is trying to tax this person and send that money into the hands of the top 1% at all costs, for example.  Instead, more money is going to help the 99%, when the Republicans let small amounts trickle out.

    And, that's the thing: Republicans have let most grant, investment and social services support money slowly move into the hands of non-1%ers, even though Obama has often wanted a greater shift away from the lifespan-riche.  So, Democrats have been a source of gradual, muted force for more fair allocations, not a source of sudden change.

    It's as if this person is imagining all sorts of assumed "freedoms" being taken away by people in black helicopters and dark sunglasses, only to have these things instead given to people of colour or similar.

    If Romney had won, the game would be tilted away from this self-branded libertarian even more than under Democratic leadership.  He was voting against his true self-interests but seems too ideologically deluded to see the forest for his imagined trees.

    "So, please stay where you are. Don't move and don't panic. Don't take off your shoes! Jobs is on the way."

    by wader on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 04:48:09 PM PST

  •  We call that a Drama Queen (1+ / 0-)
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    I bet he holds out one whole week longer than last time, until he needs his mother to wash is underwear and make him a casserole.  

    "Out of Many, One Nation." This is the great promise of the United States of America -9.75 -6.87

    by Uncle Moji on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 04:59:39 PM PST

  •  I dunno. I think this guy is a potential danger, (1+ / 0-)
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    Clearly, he's off the rails. Big. Time.

    202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

    by cany on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 05:26:15 PM PST

  •  I agree (2+ / 0-)
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    with all the characterizations I've read on this post, and find the libertarians among us rigid and misinformed. I will say, though, that I see an alarming tendency on the Right to now and then call bullshit, bullshit. I mean on the order of a broken clock being right once a day. It starts with stupid, small outrages I don't share  re no smoking in bars, outlawing large sodas...but then on to bigger things, like surveillance. At any rate, it's amazing how often they say all this is "Obama's fault" according to them, and yes, these same people see no contradiction with their other authoritarian views. It's still folk politics, but it will grow, and grow.

    I think it should concern progressives that this may be the beginning of the  Right starting to rediscover some of its libertarian roots.

     It's an institutional, non partisan drift, but the surveillance State is one can deny that.  They are going to blame it on the left, or center left. They could popularize these attitudes & we will take the fall for it.

    It's the left that has to talk about privacy. It's the left that has to warn against the surveillance state, or they will. It's a lot harder to fight an enemy that's partly right than one that's wholly wrong.  We shouldn't let it happen. Nobody is talking about this stuff on our side. We have to, or they will, and they will bring a lot of crap with them we don't want, including their absurdities about how great limited government would be in a complex, post-industrial society. RW politicians wil pay lip service to libertarian views while being unreconstructed authoritarians once in office.

    The United States is unusual among the industrial democracies in the rigidity of the system of ideological control - "indoctrination," we might say - exercised through the mass media. Noam Chomsky

    by perkinwarbek on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 07:00:13 PM PST

  •  PS: In fact, (2+ / 0-)
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    I would love the President to put privacy issues and surveillance on the agenda, on the order of Eisenhower's military-industrial complex speech. It won't happen, but it should. Sometimes the President, especially a hugely reelected one, can jump start the conversation, and not merely respond to one already in progress.

    The United States is unusual among the industrial democracies in the rigidity of the system of ideological control - "indoctrination," we might say - exercised through the mass media. Noam Chomsky

    by perkinwarbek on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 07:08:35 PM PST

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