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Michael Gerson at The Washington Post:

The 2012 election was a substantial victory not only for President Obama but also for liberalism. Obama built his campaign on abortion rights and higher taxes for the wealthy. He was rewarded by an electorate that was younger, more pro-choice and more racially diverse than in 2008. The Obama coalition is not a fluke; it is a force.

Some conservatives have reacted in the tradition of Cicero: “Oh, the times! Oh, the customs!”Rush Limbaugh concluded, “We’ve lost the country,” which he described as a “country of children.” “There is no hope,” Ann Coulter said. And Bill O’Reilly: “It’s not a traditional America anymore.”

As a matter of strategy, it is generally not a good idea to express disdain for an electorate one hopes to eventually influence.

Amanda Marcotte at USA Today also argues that liberalism was validated at the ballot box and that Republicans must moderate their stances to survive:
After Tuesday's election, if Republicans are smart, they will realize that the culture war just isn't working out for them any longer. Republicans leaned as heavily as ever on social issues and paid the price at the polls. After decades of rewarding Republicans with votes for their scare-mongering over abortion and homosexuality, voters finally turned to social conservatives and said, "Enough." [...]

Republicans used to rely on the culture wars to win elections, but this year shows they can't anymore. Voters, female voters especially, are sick of attacks on gay rights and reproductive rights. Republicans would do well to heed the lessons of this election, and give up on fighting the culture war.

Melinda Henneberger at The Washington Post:
In the final hours of the campaign, Romney either developed never-before-seen acting skills or truly believed he was on the glide path to victory; inside the Fox News bubble, no other outcome seemed possible.

But far more important than any of this, as we look to the future, is that since Romney’s loss, we’ve continued to hear conservatives who do know they are on camera or writing for publications carry right on cementing the impression that they think Obama won only because he was the choice of Moocher Nation: Not only had they failed to “take back America” from the guy Newt Gingrich delighted in calling “the food-stamp president,” but non-white America, they inferred, is not really America at all.

All of which explains how, in a tepid economy, Romney managed to lose the election more than Obama won it. And yet, they’re still at it, with Ole Miss students contributing some standout visuals to the narrative that the GOP is not minority-friendly.

The Bloomberg editorial board argues in favor of immigration reform:
Republicans have two options. They can join the White House in shaping immigration reform, all the while knowing that the president will get the lion’s share of credit. This is politically unappealing in the short term, which is certainly one reason Republicans have resisted it. However, the alternative promises even more dispiriting political consequences.

If Republicans again oppose immigration reform, they risk cementing their reputation as obstructionists and, in the process, tightening the Democrats’ hold on a large and rapidly growing constituency. This is tantamount to political surrender, if not suicide. It would be a terrible outcome for the country and a self-inflicted wound that could hobble national Republican campaigns for years to come.

Tom Cohen at CNN:
Listening to Republicans try to explain what went wrong in their worse-than-expected election thumping reveals a party struggling to define itself amid continuing change in the nation it seeks to lead.
"We have to allow for a period when it's going to be messy and in which there's going to be an attempt for the Republican Party to find it's soul," noted Isabel Sawhill, a senior fellow in economic studies at the Brookings Institution. "It's a divided party, it seems to me right now."

The well-known division pits a loud and powerful conservative base, fueled in the past three years by the tea party movement, against a once-prevalent moderate faction now relegated to wing status.

Kevin Drum at Mother Jones looks at the Tea Party's effect on the GOP:
The tea party has done its job, and for all practical purposes its hard-nosed, no-compromise ideology now controls the Republican Party in a way that neither the Birchers nor the Clinton conspiracy theorists ever did. It's no longer a wing of the Republican Party, it is the Republican Party.

So what's next? Having now lost two presidential elections in a row, conventional wisdom says Republicans have two choices. The first is to admit that tea partyism has failed. 2012 was its best chance for victory, and evolving demographics will only make hardcore conservatism less and less popular. As South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham has put it, "We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term." So the party will need to moderate or die.

Meanwhile, Paul Krugman at The New York Times points out that the one person who shouldn't compromise his stance is President Obama. Krugman urges against a "grand bargain" and says that the president has no reason to give in to GOP demands on the heels of such a decisive victory:
President Obama has to make a decision, almost immediately, about how to deal with continuing Republican obstruction. How far should he go in accommodating the G.O.P.’s demands?

My answer is, not far at all. Mr. Obama should hang tough, declaring himself willing, if necessary, to hold his ground even at the cost of letting his opponents inflict damage on a still-shaky economy. And this is definitely no time to negotiate a “grand bargain” on the budget that snatches defeat from the jaws of victory.

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  •  Eugene Robinson: A new America speaks (14+ / 0-)

    is what I called this post from last night, in which I examine the Pulitzer winner's Friday Washington Post column.   His column is definitely worth the read, and if you care, I also offer a few thoughts of my own.

    "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

    by teacherken on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:34:08 AM PST

  •  I strongly recommend the Krugman column (11+ / 0-)

    which is why I wrote and posted Krugman asks the President a question on Republican obstructionism in which I not only examine his column but also offer a few thoughts of my own.

    "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

    by teacherken on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:35:37 AM PST

    •  I would suggest to POTUS... (7+ / 0-)

      ...that he tell Speaker Boehner that he'll be happy to start talks on how to proceed...after Jan 2.

      When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

      by Egalitare on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:51:52 AM PST

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    •  Krugman said it best (18+ / 0-)

      This is no time for a grand bargain. Republicans are over a barrel because of all the tax cuts that expire 12/31.

      Obama and Senate Democrats to NOT need to save them from their self-made problem. Tax rates for top earners are going up Jan 1. It's up to the GOP whether everyone else's do. After all, the Senate has already passed their bill.


      Filibuster reform now. No more Gentleman's agreements.

      by bear83 on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:55:58 AM PST

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      •  yes! bernie sanders was on the tv machine (11+ / 0-)

        last nite (sorry, can't remember which show) & said he's getting together with seniors & vets groups to organize letter writing campaigns to the wh & d's in congress expressing opposition to ANY compromises involving ss & medicare & urging d's to not do anything & just let the bush tax cuts expire on 12/31.

        i think if the prez/d's get enuf blowback from the public they'll tell the r's to go take a long walk off a short pier but i'm probably engaging in wishful thinking on that score.

        •  I was totally against medicare changes... (1+ / 0-)
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          but if this is the opportunity to correct some fee for service impacts, and open up prescription drug negotiations...maybe this is an opportunity for improvement...but if they talk benefits for a second, I am right back on the side of push back....what better way to destroy your momentum...

          If the President throw Republicans another life jacket instead of an anchor...I will just be flabbergasted

          "Small Businesses Don't Build Levees" - Melissa Harris Perry

          by justmy2 on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 08:02:46 AM PST

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          •  i'm with you on that! enuf of this compromise (0+ / 0-)

            bs when it comes to messing with ss/medicare benies or raising the age for eligibility.

            if there are any backdoor deals cut, the party will pay dearly for it in 2014 & i don't think the prez wants that to be part of his legacy, but i could be wrong.

      •  I think the GOP tries one more time... (4+ / 0-)
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        to tack hard to the right.  They just do not seem to learn or "get it" - no matter how painfully obvious it is to everyone else.

        "The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously." -- Hubert H. Humphrey

        by Candide08 on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 05:55:00 AM PST

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      •  Re your sig (3+ / 0-)
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        Filibuster reform now. No more Gentleman's agreements.
        To have a "gentleman's agreement" you must have gentlemen involved.

        "I'm totally pro-choice in the matter of abortion. But of course I'm also so radically pro-life that I think every person from birth onward must have full and affordable access to healthcare." - Gail Collins

        by gritsngumbo on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 06:46:30 AM PST

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    •  Make sure to understand Krugman here (7+ / 0-)

      He doesnt see the Democrats directly having Congressional power to win this one even though polls and the election outcome say they should.

      He sees investors and the heads of corporations getting increasingly antsy and the real, effective pressure on the GOP to fish or cut bait coming from their direction.

      Under this reading the Dow already down 350 points is actually a good thing and the longer and faster the plunge the more the hurt on investors and corporations.

      Maybe park our 401-K's in bonds, guys? They should only need to be there for 2-3 months. Then catch the rebound.

      Just to repeat what we know even if investors and heads of corporations have a sad knack of forgetting it. For 30 years the stock market and real growth have always done better with Democrats in charge of the economy. No exceptions.

      Red states could use a growth model that WORKS by the way.  It would empower them and calm them and end this transfer from blue states of several hundred billion a year via the revenue system which in growth and psychology terms does them no good at all.  

    •  Direct pressure (1+ / 0-)
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      Pressuring D congressmen (and the P) to pressure R congressmen is one way to go -- but the less imiportant one.

      WE need to directly pressure R congressmen.

      I suppose most of us live in D districts, but there is an R district soomewhere close to you. Get the pressure on that congressman.

      LTEs, demos in front of his office, whatever it takes.

  •  Frum on Mourning Joke: T'was the Bubble that (5+ / 0-)

    wrecked the GOP.

  •  The first two article links are broken (1+ / 0-)
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  •  Why let this party of scoundrels mutate so that it (8+ / 0-)

    can reinfect the national consciousness? Let them go away, the vacuum will be filled by a more conscionable organization, with more contemporary ideas, as long as the perpetrators are suitably punished or exposed.

  •  Endless words will be written about the (17+ / 0-)

    "fiscal cliff." I have but one: jump.

    Pardon our dust. Sig line under renovation.

    by Crashing Vor on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:47:15 AM PST

  •  the fiscal cliff is our friend (8+ / 0-)

    If the GOP fails to agree to raise taxes on the wealthy, then the fiscal cliff becomes the only means to do so - and is our friend.  In 53 days without any action by Congress, the taxes on the wealthy will finally go up and return to the levels under Bill Clinton (when we produced record surpluses, not record deficits).  

    Obama and Congressional Democrats have caved in the past rather than hold their ground on this 4 year old promise from the Obama first campaign - to raise taxes on the rich.  We will know within 53 days whether all of our GOTV efforts for November 6 were a wasted effort (at least on this critical issue).

  •  Our local news carried George Will and Cal Thomas (12+ / 0-)

    and, of course, both were whining and sniveling about either four more years of "status quo" or "decline."  Thomas was particularly nasty.  Neither one of them "get it" and I suspect neither will many other republicans.  I don't think we should ever believe these people are going to come to their senses. To them, this is war and the only acceptable outcome is the defeat of our democratic principles.  

    So, my suggestion, were I asked, would be to go to war on them with unconditional surrender as the goal.  If we the people have to pay a price for awhile, it's only fitting.  We can't let them scare us with their fiscal cliff crap.  Let taxes go up...and put the blame squarely where it belongs.  

    The longer I live, the clearer I perceive how unmatchable a compliment one pays when he says of a man "he has the courage to utter his convictions." Mark Twain

    by Persiflage on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:49:00 AM PST

    •  rec'd ya. you are 100% right that we're the ones (3+ / 0-)
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      engaging in delusion if we think the r's will ever come to their senses.

      they refuse to admit they were wrong, blame all that's happened on anything convenient, from the fox noise propaganda machine to the weather, & are actually more hardened in their beliefs that conservatism will ultimately win the day if they just try/pray harder.

  •  won't change (3+ / 0-)
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    We call the right wingers--nuts--bat shit crazy people don't change--that's why we call them nuts.  Crazed people also take some things too seriously--and spend fortunes on their fantasies.  Republicans will become more white oriented--not less.  They are not only insane, they're fucken bigots!

    Apres Bush, le deluge.

    by melvynny on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:50:38 AM PST

  •  Republicans have mass delusions (6+ / 0-)

    and until the MSM starts yelling that the emperor is pure buck nekkid, and pointing and making fun of the delusion of clothes, then I am beginning to think that we will have a crazy uncle walking around naked talking to empty chairs all the time.

    You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough. -Mae West

    by COwoman on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:52:25 AM PST

  •  Stage setting for today's comments on the economy; (8+ / 0-)

    President goes to the podium with two cantaloupes and a mallet. One cantaloupe is labeled "Boehner" the other "McConnell". President says..."It has be obvious that for the past four years the Republicans in Congress have deliberately undermined any and all efforts on my part to boost the economy and increase job production. This was done in an effort to deny me a second term. Tuesday we discovered that the majority of the American people want me to continue serving them in spite of high unemployment and a shaky world economy. Soon I will suggest some specific legislation that I want passed. If it is not passed"......long pause......."this is what will happen";President smashes both cantaloupes with mallet. Then says "God bless you, God bless America and God have mercy on these two assholes if they don't wake up because I sure won't".

    Who says it's hard to be a Presidential speech writer.

  •  One of my favorite pundits (21+ / 0-)

    A Few Brief Notes to Republicans on the Day After Their Defeat by Barack Obama:

    You lost. It wasn't close. It wasn't a squeaker. It wasn't a nailbiter. All of your internal magical mathematicians were wrong. It was over the second the polls closed on the West Coast because it was over before the election even started. It was over because you nominated a fraud, a Tin Man who spent the entire campaign looking for a heart not because he really wanted one but because his advisors told him that he needed one. It was over because whatever else he tried to be, Mitt Romney was as close to a caricature of a rich dick as you could get without looking like he was merely plagiarizing The Simpsons or Dickens. It was over because, despite every effort to smear and lie about the President, Americans saw that Barack Obama was not your crude Bolshevik monster, but a cool, rational man who kept trying to get things done despite monumental opposition, despite monumental debt, despite a monumental storm. You won't see these things, though, because you're Republicans, and self-reflection is to you what a hot needle is to a cyst on your ass.
    Ultimately, you won't learn anything. Because you're Republicans. And there's something tragically touching and almost poetically ignorant about stubbornly clinging to the anchor of your principles even as the ship sinks and everyone around you is saying to let it go and take a life preserver.

    White-collar conservatives flashing down the street, pointing their plastic finger at me..

    by BOHICA on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:53:34 AM PST

  •  One more reason Paul Krugman is right (9+ / 0-)

    In standing firm against the Republican Congress, President Obama would be a voice for democracy.  There is no reason why the Republican Congress, elected by a minority of the voters (the first time that the majority in the House was different from the majority of voters for Congress since 1996) should be allowed to claim that it is speaking for the people.

    •  and yet, the msm is providing them a platform (1+ / 0-)
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      to do so, & failing to call them out on their (continued) lies -- in the spirit of "balanced" journalism, of course (blechhh!).

      i predict david gregory, george snuffaluffagus, etc, will have the usual parade of very serious people like liz cheney & george will & peggy noonan on their shows this sunday explaining how obama & the d's lost & romney & ryan's budget should be adopted b/c it's perfectly clear the american public wants republican policies -- pretending there was never an election at all.

      and david & george will have to leave it there.

  •  I will tell you all...that I Never thought... (5+ / 0-)

    Not for one minute, that Obama would Win Florida.  I am stunned.  I am happy, but I am stunned.  I just wrote about this on another website.  I have 15 friends and over 20 family members on two sides of the State.  Out of that entire group, only 2 of them voted for Obama.  So you can all see why I said that.

  •  Anyone ask Karl Rove how that (2+ / 0-)
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    "permanent majority" thing is working out for him?

  •  At least Gerson gave Obama credit for winning (3+ / 0-)
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    Yes, he is 99.9% sanctimonious smug and wrong but he credited the President, saying his coalition was a force and the victory was not a fluke

  •  the flip side to this: the Dems need to stick to (4+ / 0-)

    THEIR stances, and grow a goddamn spine for once.

    STEP ONE: Liberals will declare that cutting social security and Medicare benefits – including raising the eligibility age or introducing "means-testing" – are absolutely unacceptable, that they will never support any bill that does so no matter what other provisions it contains, that they will wage war on Democrats if they try.

    STEP TWO: As the deal gets negotiated and takes shape, progressive pundits in Washington, with Obama officials persuasively whispering in their ear, will begin to argue that the proposed cuts are really not that bad, that they are modest and acceptable, that they are even necessary to save the programs from greater cuts or even dismantlement.

    STEP THREE: Many progressives – ones who are not persuaded that these cuts are less than draconian or defensible on the merits – will nonetheless begin to view them with resignation and acquiescence on pragmatic grounds. Obama has no real choice, they will insist, because he must reach a deal with the crazy, evil GOP to save the economy from crippling harm, and the only way he can do so is by agreeing to entitlement cuts. It is a pragmatic necessity, they will insist, and anyone who refuses to support it is being a purist, unreasonably blind to political realities, recklessly willing to blow up Obama's second term before it even begins.

    STEP FOUR: The few liberal holdouts, who continue to vehemently oppose any bill that cuts social security and Medicare, will be isolated and marginalized, excluded from the key meetings where these matters are being negotiated, confined to a few MSNBC appearances where they explain their inconsequential opposition.

    STEP FIVE: Once a deal is announced, and everyone from Obama to Harry Reid and the DNC are behind it, any progressives still vocally angry about it and insisting on its defeat will be castigated as ideologues and purists, compared to the Tea Party for their refusal to compromise, and scorned (by compliant progressives) as fringe Far Left malcontents.

    STEP SIX: Once the deal is enacted with bipartisan support and Obama signs it in a ceremony, standing in front of his new Treasury Secretary, the supreme corporatist Erskine Bowles, where he touts the virtues of bipartisanship and making "tough choices", any progressives still complaining will be told that it is time to move on. Any who do not will be constantly reminded that there is an Extremely Important Election coming – the 2014 midterm – where it will be Absolutely Vital that Democrats hold onto the Senate and that they take over the House. Any progressive, still infuriated by cuts to social security and Medicare, who still refuses to get meekly in line behind the Party will be told that they are jeopardizing the Party's chances for winning that Vital Election and – as a result of their opposition - are helping Mitch McConnell take over control of the Senate and John Boehner retain control of the House.

    We've seen this movie a hundred times before.  I'm tired of seeing it.
    •  only Nixon could go to China, and (0+ / 0-)

      only Obama can cut Social Security and Medicare.

    •  See Seth Evil and Dr. Evil regarding Austin Powers (0+ / 0-)

      Seth: Why don't you use the time machine to go back in time and kill Austin Powers when he's taking a crap.

      Dr. Evil: No I plan a slow, and elaborate death after I reveal my plans to Powers.

      Seth: You do this every time!

    •  I'm cutting your script out (0+ / 0-)

      and framing it for frequent future reference. I suspect you are mostly spot-on but then I also suspect there are some trade offs necessary to achieve a truly balanced and enduring solution to a fiscal and economic success.  There is a lot of judgement involved in pareto optimal solutions.
      But I really like your roadmap technique and get tough stance. Certainly has to be a part of the solution.

      Damn the Regressives, full speed ahead!

      by Nautical Knots on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 06:16:49 AM PST

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  •  Hi folks! (10+ / 0-)

    study the exit polls!

    "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

    by Greg Dworkin on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 05:21:15 AM PST

  •  someone said there's a fight going on within the (3+ / 0-)
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    republican party between the math guys (might not be the right term for them) & the priests -- the pragmatists & the purists.

    sounds to me like the priests/purists are going to win this one, & if they do, that should put the last nail in the republican party coffin -- which is fine by me :)

  •  Watching FOX is fun! (2+ / 0-)
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    Last night Laura Ingraham employed her gravelly baritone as the voice of a drill instructor shoving some backbone into two miserable FOX weenies who suggested that the GOP might not necessarily have a winning plan in appealing exclusively to old white men.  It was fun to hear her harangue them. On your feet, little girls! What did we do after GOLDWATER!  We went to WORK and sixteen years later REAGAN was elected, little girls!  While they sniveled on, not daring to contradict, as though they thought it would get them court-martialed.

  •  Get the House Back. Heres How (1+ / 0-)
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    We have to start now.  First we have to be on the ass of every vulnerable red state teabagger rep like a dirty diaper.  Then we have to make the case to individual working class and middle class voters that they are indeed better off with social programs.  I would focus on single moms, students and energizing the base in red states to go after the repubs.  and, we have to promote (first find) good candidates to run.  Possibly from the ranks of OFA organizers.  We have to make our case big on the state and county level.  This coming midterm needs to bury xroads once and for all.  ALEC too.

    "We must close union offices, confiscate their money and put their leaders in prison. We must reduce workers salaries and take away their right to strike.” -Adolf Hitler, May 2, 1933

    by bekosiluvu on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 05:57:55 AM PST

  •  Mrs. Greenspan on Morning Joe says (10+ / 0-)

    that the President will reach out to the GOP congress this afternoon "which he did not in his first term".

    Different day same shit.

  •  but what about the LIES? (3+ / 0-)
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    can we stop talking about demographics of AA, latinos, etc and talk about what portion of the electorate believes LIES?

    let's talk Ohio since that is where the election was won.

    Women and the old white farts (like me) and the young latino voters hate lies.  we are united in hating GOP lies!  all demographics hated the lies!

    especially, GM and Chrysler hated the lies, from top to bottom, CEO's to line workers, folks hated the GOP message of bald-faced lies!!!

    women hated the lies on conception!!!  akin's comments were astoundingly anti-reality, anti-science and bald-faced ridiculous!

    the more we talk about demographics the less we will talk about the lies, the cheating, and the stealing (buying votes) of the GOP.

    they can wrap up their crap message of endless war, no taxes and servitude any ol' way they want.   but americans aren't going to believe it if they say things like the rape comments, the 47% who pay no taxes, and that jeep is shipping jobs to china.  

    stay on what won Ohio.  

    Community Organizer trumps Private Equity Manager

    by stagemom on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 06:03:29 AM PST

  •  The Romney-Bush campaign lost. This is one thing (4+ / 0-)
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    the gop hasn't figured out yet. As long as Ryan is a "player" he will be seen as the worst of the Bush years coupled with the gop obstructionism of Obama's first term.

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 06:06:47 AM PST

  •  Paul Krugman (5+ / 0-)

    is spot on and will therefore be completely ignored.

  •  Liberal Pundits (0+ / 0-)

    Readers will recall the brilliant advice the punditocracy gave Democrats in the past.  Naturally, they will give Republicans the same brilliant advice.

    Republicans will rpobably get one thing right.  Accidents happen.  They will conclude that they should ignore concern trolling by liberal-leaning pundits, a point on which -- if you caught my sarcasm in the prior paragraph -- they have a point of agreement with Democrats, Libertarians, Greens, and Revolutionary Vegetarians.

    We can have change for the better.

    by phillies on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 06:19:30 AM PST

  •  Lindsey Gramham has it all wrong (0+ / 0-)

    South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham has put it, "We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

    All they are is Angry White Guys. It scared everyone else away. Well done schmuck.

  •  The better you know him the less you like him. (2+ / 0-)
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    Bush Had More Mormon Support Than Romney
    Pew Research finds that Mitt Romney won 78% of the Mormon vote in the 2102 presidential election.

    In 2004, George W. Bush was backed by 80% of Mormons.

  •  We need to fight the R's at the local level of (1+ / 0-)
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    every elected seat as well.  Let's choke off their bench in the two years before next Congressional election.  Meanwhile let them talk and think about "demographics" while failing to understand it is VALUES.  As long as their geniuses think of women and minoirities as the "other," they will never figure it out.  

  •  Back Go Back Back (0+ / 0-)

    Can't wait for 2015 when Phyllis Schafly once again gets a personhood amendment in the Republican platform. For now it is time to deal with the true "takers" which is the upper 2% who never stop lobbying for more tax breaks even before the ink is dry on the last one. I'm with Krugman.

  •  Wow, think of what a Prima Dona he must be. (0+ / 0-)

    "In the final hours of the campaign, Romney either developed never-before-seen acting skills or truly believed he was on the glide path to victory; inside the Fox News bubble, no other outcome seemed possible."

    Seriously, I always give the Republicans too much credit for knowing the score.  I sit and assume they have one set of info for their constituency and another, reality based, for their strategists (which I am sure is the case).  But, they had to treat their candidate like their constituency.  For a different reason.  Because he is a petulant child.  Not, a bad ass business man.  Bad ass business men, know the score, live in the score and maneuver the score.

    We dodged another spoiled frat boy bullet.  W and Romney's fathers knew the scores. But, they raised boys faulty in character.  Which is my argument for the inheritance tax.  If you are going to raise powerful idiots, the penalty (tax) is helping to provide an educated populous to try and counter your destructive work as a parent.

    The Republican Party, courting the female vote for 2012 by clubbing us over the head and dragging us back to the polling place.

    by truesteam on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 07:50:17 AM PST

  •  I vote die... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    "We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term." So the party will need to moderate or die.
    The country would be better for it...

    "Small Businesses Don't Build Levees" - Melissa Harris Perry

    by justmy2 on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 07:59:47 AM PST

  •  Words Of Wisdom (0+ / 0-)
    As a matter of strategy, it is generally not a good idea to express disdain for an electorate one hopes to eventually influence.
    And if you just can't help expressing disdain for an electorate one hopes to eventually influence, at least make sure there aren't any hidden cameras in the room.

    On the Internet, nobody knows if you're a dog... but everybody knows if you're a jackass.

    by stevemb on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 08:27:58 AM PST

    •  Hidden Camera in Quiet Room (0+ / 0-)

      I'm wondering if and when we will ever know the identity of the hidden camera operator.Releasing the 47% video was an important factor in Obama's re-election,if not the most important.The unsub is an American hero.

      We could certainly slow down the aging process if it had to work its way through Congress. Will Rogers

      by zestyann on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:51:25 AM PST

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  •  Gerson is wrong (0+ / 0-)

    Republicans are acting more like Cato than Cicero.

  •  I had to google "Ole Miss students riot" (0+ / 0-)

    Mississippi? Why would anyone live there?

    A man's character is his destiny.

    by Jaleh on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 08:38:57 AM PST

  •  I have seen (0+ / 0-)

    numerous articles and headlines today about the GOP trying to "define itself".

    They already did.  They have spent the past 60 years defining themselves.  That is their problem - we all know who they are, and what they stand for, and we're getting pretty damn tired of it.

    If they can learn that (Ha!) they may have a chance, but as long as they continue on their present course, they are doomed to more of the same.

    I am not religious, and did NOT say I enjoyed sects.

    by trumpeter on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 08:42:04 AM PST

  •  It's not over (0+ / 0-)

    I predict a lengthy and perhaps bloody period of internal warfare in the GOP. Right now they're so busy navel-gazing that they can't see what's going on around them. I think it's likely that they will refuse to see it until and unless someone other than the Tea-Partier-inChief gets their attention. Otherwise we'll just have to wait for the angry old white guys and their blue-haired consorts to die off. Even then there will be no shortage of the ignorant, selfish younger people who make up the rest of the base, but whether they will be able to wield as much power as the angry old white guys remains to be seen. I don't think the war will be over by 2016, either, unless a truly moderate leader (not Chris Christie or Jeb Bush) somehow miraculously appears.

  •  They've created a monster they can't control (0+ / 0-)

    The Reps have harped on their divisive social agenda for so long that the most avid sector of their base is comprised of haters.
    Rush and Fox won't be going anywhere; they are in the business of making money, of entertaining, not governing. Oops, actually Reps aren't into governing either, but you get my point.
    There is no way to control the Teapartiers now that they're fired up ... ready to go. Witness how Perry got shoved aside on the tuition issue.
    So, unless the Reps can come up with a way to get more moderates than knuckle-dragging morans to vote in their primaries, they're on a runaway train of their own devising.
    The Teapartiers no doubt believe Mitt was not conservative enough.  How do the Reps re-educate or de-program the rabble, particularly when the Reps actually seem to have drunk their own kool-ade. They only want to downplay it to appear sane to the rest of us.

  •  What, no more culture war? Waaaah! (0+ / 0-)

    Without God, guns and gays, what exactly do the Republicans have to offer the 99%?

    Precious little, it would seem. About all they have left is "We'll keep taxes low so when you finally hit the lottery, you'll get to keep more of the jackpot."

    I love Krugman's line: we can finally say "Who cares what's the matter with Kansas?"

    What is valued is practiced. What is not valued is not practiced. -- Plato

    by RobLewis on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 01:22:06 PM PST

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