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Another "traditional" Republican value, that of opposing anything related to science, including climate change denial, may be taking a fall. A new Rasmussen poll taken the day before the election, and reported today, reports that 68% See Global Warming As Serious Problem, a new high.  


A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 68% of Likely U.S. Voters now say global warming is at least a somewhat serious problem, including 38% who think it’s Very Serious.  Thirty percent (30%) don’t see global warming as a serious problem, with 12% who think it’s Not At All Serious.

The national survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on November 5, 2012 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

Alana Horowitz who also reports this story notes that Rasmussen's 2009 poll showed that only 46% of Americans thought climate change was a serious issue, and that in 2008 Gallup reported that 48% thought global warming was exaggerated.

Alana Horowitz also speculates that this last year of record extreme weather such as droughts, firestorms, and superstorms, along with statements by famous politicians such as Governor Chris Christie, Mayor Micheal Bloomberg and others may be tipping the scale.

According to Rasmussen, 41% of those who believe in climate change think it's because of human activity. 38% believe global warming is caused by planetary trends.

It's not just American voters that are becoming more convinced that climate change is a real problem. Some Republican politicians are also growing concerned. Earlier this year, New Jersey Governor and once-rumored VP candidate Chris Christie admitted that "climate change is real" and "impacting our state."

As New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg put it, "Hurricane Sandy provided a wake-up call about the impacts of climate change. Recent extreme weather and climate events make clear that ignoring climate change will be costly in human, environmental, and economic terms for the United States and the world."

This is yet more challenging news for Tea Party, Republicans, and other's on the right-wing who have opposed climate change and much of everything related to science for reasons that are not entirely clear.  Could it be that fundamentalists are trying to undermine science which they perceive as antithetical to their religious based belief? Or, could it be driven more by large donations from the oil and coal industry to Republicans and their operatives in the deep background?  

I can't wait to see what "realignments" conservatives make to recover from the fringe-extremist labeling we tagged them with. This one would seem to be a "no-brainer," so to speak. Nothing will suggest "just-plain-stupid," after 2012, than saying nothing strange is going on with our weather and climate.  And, for what gain?      

8:56 PM PT: Hey, this is my 600 th post since joining up in Oct 24, 2005, after lurking for while.  And, I'm coming up to comment 23,000 soon, and just past 26,000 Recs this morning. I wish we counted tips received and given as that would be fun.  

Diaries published: 600
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The total comment ratings has been broken for at least a year and half. I'm not even exactly sure what it is, but we should  either fix this or take it down. After a year and a half, this is not just lame, and embarrassing for the site, but also misinformation. We should label it as broken, at the minimum. Same for total Mojo rankings which has also been broken.

Whatever... I recommend those of you who are just lurking to join up and take the plunge. Those of you just lurking should comment, and those just commenting should post. It's like entering a time warp and great fun.


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  •  thank god. that means only 32% are truly (3+ / 0-)
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    wade norris, HoundDog, G2geek

    hidebound.  That sounds about right, actually. Who knows, maybe even that number will shrink after the next off-the-charts mega system slams into the South somewhere.

    "Well, yeah, the Constitution is worth it if you succeed." - Nancy Pelosi // Question: "succeed" at what?

    by nailbender on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 08:51:02 PM PST

    •  Yes, if we get another couple feet in the rise of (3+ / 0-)
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      sea level as the polar ice-caps melt I betcha this number drop all the way down to 28%.  That's the great thing about Americans.  Many of us pay attention to reality, eventually.

      The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

      by HoundDog on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:07:18 PM PST

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      •  What's the Support for Social Security (2+ / 0-)
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        HoundDog, G2geek

        which is bipartisanly on the chopping block to balance the "federal deficit?"

        We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

        by Gooserock on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:10:23 PM PST

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        •  I published a poll last night which said 70% of (1+ / 0-)
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          voters oppose cuts to Social Security, Medicare, or Education to balance the budget or solve this fiscal cliff thing, which is the Republican position.

          The overwhelming majority of Americans now prefer our Democratic approach which is to raise revenue by returning tax rates on the wealthiest, and closing loop holes.

          It's probably about 6-10 down in my archives.

          But, a bunch of us are getting fired up to warn certain Democrats who want to use Simpson-Bowles as a model for a 'grand compromise" that it will be the blunder of a lifetime and destroy the miraculous rebuilding of our Democratic coalition that we just rebuilt.

           

          The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

          by HoundDog on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:19:43 PM PST

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      •  HoundDog - congrats on the participation (3+ / 0-)
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        I rarely write diaries but have 22,000 comments and 75,000 recs when they stopped counting. Someone said they are keeping track but I don't understand why the counter stopped when DK4 started. I would be over 100,000 now, which would be cool.

        Regarding climate change I do think recognition of the problem is the first hurdle and it's encouraging to see awareness increase. However, I think that is the easy part. The harder part is that Americans feel they are entitled to inexpensive energy. I think this goes back nearly 100 years when in the early days of oil the US was the Saudi Arabia of that era and was the top oil exporter in the world. As we see now all of the top oil exporting countries  provide very inexpensive oil and gasoline to their citizens. While it has been a long time since we were significant oil exporters people think gas should be $2/gallon, not $5/gallon. So I fear that if you asked people to chose between less expensive or green energy, the overwhelming percentage of Americans would chose cheaper. And that is the challenge for politicians.

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:48:11 PM PST

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        •  I agree with everything you say. (2+ / 0-)
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          VClib, G2geek

          How easy should it be to count rec received, and given.  I don't understand the problem.

          Yes, it may seem sort of trivial but I think it is human nature to like to see acknowledgement and track progress.

          Cutting back on burning fossil fuels is going to be really difficult.

          But, fortunately the cost of solar energy has been coming down so fast we are seeing a lot more creative application, although it is devastating the business plans of many producers, as happened with Solyndra.

          The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

          by HoundDog on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:54:29 PM PST

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          •  HD - the big breakthrough will be (2+ / 0-)
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            inexpensive power storage. If we had a technology that would allow us to very inexpensively store solar and wind generated power, even for 24 hours, it would be huge. There are some very interesting technologies in development, and I have seen a handful that may be what we need.

            Lower natural gas prices also allow for the substitution of cleaner natural gas for coal.

            The Energy Department's venture investments are a subject for another conversation.

            "let's talk about that"

            by VClib on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 10:01:47 PM PST

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            •  Yes, thanks for reminding me. About a year ago I (1+ / 0-)
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              reported a big breakthrough in batter storage from MIT.  There was some liquid chemical that could store energy for long periods, that had been demonstrated in small quantities.

              Authors speculated that it was so stable we might even get  eventually get collectors in southern deserts transported up to northern areas, or summer - winter storage.

              Problem was it required certain extremely rare and expensive rare earths based alloys that were wickedly expensive to produce.

              But, the hope was that once the basic thermodynamics of the very odd chemical bonds were better understood that could find out how to exploit the same mechanism in less costly and rare chemicals.  

              I'll have to go back and see how that is going.

              Another sort of out-of-the-blue discovery this year was with a piezo-electric nanabot combo, which produced electric currents from much smaller scale motions across a thin film surface, potentially opening up the possibility of extracting energy from small wive, or sream currents, and potentially even wind,. although this technology was 5 to 20 years away from being able to be scaled up to the magnitude of applications we would need to put a dent in the massive amounts of coal and oil electrical generation.

              The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

              by HoundDog on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 10:20:11 PM PST

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  •  Push This With the Insurance/Reinsurance Sector (6+ / 0-)

    They're paying for climate change RIGHT NOW.

    Let's try to recruit them to find ways to fight big dirty energy, in and outside government. We don't have time to eff around with idealistic fantasies of democracy before we can act.

    There are forces that can act now. Let's go to them.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:12:51 PM PST

  •  if Rasmussen says 68% before the election, (3+ / 0-)
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    what does that mean the reality is?

    More like 80%??


    "A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous..........got me?" - Don Van Vliet

    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:19:34 PM PST

  •  Congratulations on hitting the 600 mark (2+ / 0-)
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    I'm assuming that at least 600 more diaries are coming. :)

    Now about global warming. While the Republicans, in their attempts to ignore both reality and science, have made lots of noise about global warming not being reality, it looks like the scientific findings are getting through to the general public. Now, if we can just get Congress to act.

    •  Well with 68% of the population now thinking it is (3+ / 0-)
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      is serious political "leaders" are more likely to follow.

      The problem is that the changes we need to make, like reducing the burning of fossil fuels, are difficult and time consuming.

      Now that the election are over I'm planning to get back to writing more articles helping our conversion to solar, wind, tidal, and geothermal energy generation, and efficiency improvements and conservation, via Kosowatt, our sustainable energy group I founded a while back.

      Thanks for commenting Ojibwa. BTW, I alway love your rich well written posts.

      The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

      by HoundDog on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:41:09 PM PST

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  •  Don't see much good news in this to be honest (1+ / 0-)
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    68% believe global warming is happening but only 41% of those believe its manmade. That means only 28% of americans believe in man made climate change. Doesn't bode well for making the necessary changes.

    "I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your fuckin' mouth." --- Bill Hicks

    by voroki on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 03:50:12 AM PST

    •  Good news not great news (0+ / 0-)

         Yes, while most people finally accept that the climate is changing, only 28% think that mankind has any affect. That's 72% who don't accept the science. That means we still have a long way to go to convince folks that we are all part of the problem and need to be part of the solution.

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