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An interesting theory, but in short: No

 Here's the deal, MSM picked up on what some black people like Samuel L Jackson, said they voted for Pres Obama because he's black. This is partly true because black people do believe other black politicians understand our problems more than a white person. However, if black people feel comfortable with a white candidate, we will vote for them. Let me give you an example, down here in New Orleans over 80 percent of African Americans voted for a white candidate for mayor over blacks. African Americans trusted Mitch Landrieu over all candidates including those who are black.
  When then Senator Obama first ran for president I wasn't drawn to him by the color of his skin, nor were my family and friends. Inside the barber shop is usually where black people gossip and talk about news. I remember before the Iowa caucus, people were suspicious of Senator Obama and were supporting Hillary Clinton. The Clintons were/are gold in our community and last I checked they both are white. Remember, before Iowa Hillary had majority support from African Americans. When Senator Obama won Iowa it was a wow moment. Iowa is one of the whitest states in our union, so many of us had to give a second look at Obama. This was gradual, but after a few states, Senator Obama had the black vote. It can be argued that African Americans are inherently suspicious.
  If President Obama were an idiot I doubt very seriously Barack Obama would have won black votes. Yes, it's somewhat tribal now, but it's only because we know President Obama understand us. African American take voting for presidency very seriously. If there were talk that Obama wanted to go war, makes serious social cuts, a 'C' student in college, you know like a 'black W. Bush,'no blacks would vote for him.
  Just to further prove blacks don't just vote for blacks, on night this past election I told my mother, Alan West lost(to a white candidate) and her response was 'thank god.' She is old school black social conservative: church goer. If Obama never ran for president and Hillary Clinton was running against Herman Cain or Condoleezza Rice, I still believe Hillary would win over 90 percent of black vote. Herman Cain is an idiot and there would be a fear that Cain might push us into nuclear war. Rice has a lot problems, mainly she was a Bushie. I would say Gen. Powell was popular in black community until he join Bush admin.  
  I'm sure there is a percentage of blacks voted for Obama because of his race, as I am sure some white people voted for Romney because of his race. African Americans were excited in 2007/08 on the possibility having black president and re-electing a black president. Shouldn't we?      

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  •  Rick Santorum and I... (9+ / 0-)

    have some things in common.

    We're both first-generation Italian-Americans.

    He's a Pittsburgh guy. I'm a Pittsburgh guy.

    Have I ever voted for Santorum?

    Let's see. How can I put this?

    If intergalactic warrior Voltan the Merciless was in the process of taking over the Earth for the sole purpose of enslaving and then turning the human race into a fuel source for his home planet and found himself having to run for president to make his takeover complete, I would vote for Voltan -- hell, I would knock on doors for him -- if the other name on the ballot were Santorum's.

    So, yeah, in short, I get what you're saying.

    Now, on the other hand, had an Italian-American I admire, such as Mario Cuomo, ever run for president, then my enthusiasm would be all the greater.

    How about I believe in the unlucky ones?

    by BenderRodriguez on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 02:18:35 PM PST

  •  Great diary. I agree. (6+ / 0-)
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    RO45, bosshogg, grover, FiredUpInCA, Lujane, SCFrog

    I asked when people said that Gen. Powell endorsed President Obama, just because he was black, does that mean that white people only endorsed Gov. rMoney because he was white?

    The new meme on the right is that only persons of color are racist.

    Take back the House in 2014!!!!!!!!!!!! (50 state strategy needed)

    by mungley on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 02:22:04 PM PST

  •  Samuel Jackson also said (4+ / 0-)
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    he voted for President Obama because he, Samuel Jackson, is Black.  I also voted for the President not just because I am Black, but because I got it that his central belief is about working to help others.  He believes, as I do, that we are put here not just to be served, but to serve.  Therefore, I voted for him.  If I were a Black Republican, I wonder if anyone would ask why I voted for Romney?   Do you think they would care?  Would my reasons really matter?  I doubt it.  But the question about my vote for the President is allowable from these same people, and in a lot of ways, it insults me, it insults my intelligence, it minimizes my thought process in getting to my decision about my vote, and ultimately, it minimizes my vote!

    But I voted anyway, and I am proud to have voted, from Florida, for President Obama!

    As my friend said," I am not renting out space in my head to anybody."

    by RO45 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 02:25:35 PM PST

    •  My takeaway from SLJ's comment (3+ / 0-)
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      I saw him say that on Bill Maher and the way I took it was that in this election, he voted for the person who was likely to enact policies that were positive for black people. That the President was black was incidental ( although I do think he said he voted for Obama in '08 because Obama was black) .

      I say all of that to say that as a woman, as a black woman, as a mother of a gay son, I voted for Obama not because he's black but because I'm a woman, a black woman and a mother of a gay son. The President has my back and I his.

      We view "The Handmaid's Tale" as cautionary. The GOP views it as an instruction book.

      by Vita Brevis on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 02:47:04 PM PST

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  •  It's such an easy notion to shoot down (5+ / 0-)

    As you mention, the number of black candidates who don't get the black vote is very, very long.  The number of white candidates who have gotten the black vote is also very, very long.

    Seriously, one has to wonder where lpeople who suggest this have been all these years.

    This has been a golden age for confirmation bias. - David Brooks

    by Mindful Nature on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 02:27:07 PM PST

  •  Whites vote for unqualified nitwits (2+ / 0-)
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    Mia Love got 70% of the vote in the county where Brigham Young University is located.

    Her Democratic (well, he's as close to a Democrat as we are ever going to have around here) opponent Jim Matheson won in part because the Polynesians and Latinos in Salt Lake County voted for him.

  •  I'm guessing that Allen West wished this were (10+ / 0-)

    The case right about now.

    © grover

    So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

    by grover on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 02:29:18 PM PST

  •  Uh, NO (0+ / 0-)

    The radical Republican party is the party of oppression, fear, loathing and above all more money and power for the people who robbed us.

    by a2nite on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 02:35:48 PM PST

  •  In 2008, while working for Obama in NH, (3+ / 0-)
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    I got into a conversation with another volunteer who happened to be black.  

    He told me that a number of people had asked him if he supported Obama because Obama was black.

    He always answered by saying, "I'm not voting for Obama because he's black; I'm voting for Obama because I'm black.

    When he was on Bill Maher (where he made his comments), Samuel Jackson pretty much made the same point.

    Until the economy recovers, I'll settle for cheap laughs

    by Clyde the Cat on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 02:38:40 PM PST

  •  My favorite example is Memphis (2+ / 0-)
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    I now live in Tennessee, and have liked and respected
    Steve Cohen since I came here. He was a state senator then. He has now been elected to the House of representatives four times from a city that is predominantly black. Cohen is white, and jewish. Most
    african-americans are christian. He has had opponents who essentially ran on a racial platform, that Memphis should be represented by a black representative because it is so black, and that Cohen couldn't really represent them. Yet, most folks in Memphis seem to agree with me that he is an excellent representative.

    As I said, Cohen has now won four times. It took a great many black votes each time, most likely a majority of the
    black vote.

    •  I was living in Memphis (0+ / 0-)

      during that election. I was disgusted by his opponent running a racial ad saying Cohen not one of us. I wasn't registrar in Memphis to vote, but I knew that would backfire on her... I remember Cohen with a high number of black voters... I was so happy when he won.....  

      Please proceed, Governor---President Obama

      by bosshogg on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 03:16:19 PM PST

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  •  I Am Going To Point Out (0+ / 0-)

    one simple fact you should share with those who ever bring this up.  Here goes.

    Since blacks got the right to vote after the end of the Civil War (and of course lost if in the Jim Crow South) many black candidates have run for President on one of the two major parties' ticket?  Humm only Obama in 2008 and 2012.  So did blacks not vote in the presidential elections from 1868 to 2008?

    Of course they did and I recall that during that time every single candidate for the two major parties was a white man.  I also recall that during that same stretch of time most people running for Congress, Senate and Governor were white.  So I am certain that black voters have been voting for tons of white candidates for at least 150 years or so.

    That might be a little cumbersome to point out. So maybe just ask the person this "Didn't blacks vote for Clinton, Gore and Kerry...their white last I checked?".  :)

    •  True... (0+ / 0-)

      However, media and talking heads are insinuating Pres Obama is unqualified or black people don't keep up with news and yet see a black man so we automatically vote black... The years blacks voted white for president weren't a big deal because blacks votes didn't seem as powerful as it does today...  

      Please proceed, Governor---President Obama

      by bosshogg on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 03:27:15 PM PST

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  •  Half of white candidates aren't worth a damn. (0+ / 0-)

    No wonder blacks don't vote for them, I won't either.

    I'm the plowman in the valley - with my face full of mud

    by labradog on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 03:09:48 PM PST

  •  I imagine there's alot fewer black voters who vote (4+ / 0-)
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    for black candidates because they are black than there are white folks who refuse to vote for black candidates because they are black.

    "I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your fuckin' mouth." --- Bill Hicks

    by voroki on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 03:37:59 PM PST

  •  I had no small degree of emotional investment (1+ / 0-)
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    in President Obama doing well, as our first non-Euro-American President. But I was for Mrs. Clinton before I was for Mr. Obama; he had to prove to me that he could do the job better than she. And in the end, he did.

    If he hadn't, I would have had no issue proudly casting a vote for Hillary Clinton. Simple as that.

    Is this just math that you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?

    by ConfusedSkyes on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 04:11:39 PM PST

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