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Oh, there'll be more about filibuster reform today. That much you can be sure of.

Yesterday we started in on a deep dive into the subject, describing the relationship between the filibuster and the "hold," how the burden of fighting a filibuster came to end up on the majority instead of the minority that was conducting it, and why no one actually has to stand up and talk to conduct a filibuster anymore.

Today, we'll finish up with an explanation of the paradox that perpetuates the filibuster rule, why everybody used to think it required a 2/3 vote to change the rules, what exactly the "constitutional option" is, how it resolves the paradox, and how it happened that it was a critical element in previous rules changes, yet everyone remains convinced that it has "never been used before."

Then, we'll probably make some jokes about the Petraeus weirdos.

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  •  good morning! (2+ / 0-)
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    Mary Mike, idbecrazyif

    "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

    by Greg Dworkin on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 05:13:17 AM PST

    •  and speaking of filibusters (1+ / 0-)
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      Mary Mike
      Democratic holdouts are correct to be concerned about the effects of radical reform. Not only will Democrats wind up in the minority at some point in the future and want those protections, but without careful design reform could easily turn the Senate into a second House of Representatives. It’s very understandable that individual senators want to protect their own rights and don’t want to transfer their influence to their party leadership.

      But that’s why reluctant Democrats should sign on — and develop their own reform package. Do reluctant Democrats, for example, really believe that a 60-vote Senate is needed to prevent majority tyranny and to preserve the importance of individual senators? They shouldn’t; the Senate successfully avoided majority-party tyranny for two centuries before the true 60-vote Senate showed up recently.

      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

      by Greg Dworkin on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 05:16:48 AM PST

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  •  Oh my god your voice sounds amazing (0+ / 0-)

    It's like an angel is making love to my ears!

    "The president was elected on the basis that he was not Romney and that Romney was a poopy-head and you should vote against Romney" -Grover Norquist

    by Wolfox on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 05:18:36 AM PST

  •  Where's the Congressional Outrage? (1+ / 0-)
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    Mary Mike

    Where's the House leadership as to Congressional Hearings on Cantor, do I buy his statements, NO, and now we know the shirtless FBI agent Frederick W. Humphries II, 47???

    They seem to like doing as many hearings as they can drum up instead of doing the people's business, we handsomely pay them for, I'm Demanding Hearings be held to get to who else Cantor might have told as well as this bare chest FBI agent!!

    Note: If hearings were called, especially in the house, I already know what would happen. They'd be called by the Dems and like during the bush administration and tepub controlled congress they'd stick them down in some basement room with no tepubs attending, nor would Cantor and probably this FBI agent attend to testify and the supporters of would give their thumbs up and full support, any and all with that (R) after their names!!!

    Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

    by jimstaro on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 05:25:39 AM PST

  •  So basically right now media is more worried (0+ / 0-)

    about charity balls, socialites, and who's penis is going in who than actually IDK, getting shit done in the Senate by reforming filibuster and focusing a spotlight on Cantor who might actually be intrinsically involved in all this bullshit.

    Well by media I mean media outside reality based media like here.

    Now I know why kos replaced my morning listening

    --Enlighten the people, generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like spirits at the dawn of day. - Thomas Jefferson--

    by idbecrazyif on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 06:38:52 AM PST

  •  Dear David (0+ / 0-)

    Take pity on those bringing up the rear  (Ok, Just me) in filibuster 101 and constitutional option.  Is there any way to link the correct old very scholarly work (yes it is) in your prior exceptional diaries to the podcast where you discuss the foibles of Senate Rules.  This is truly great -

    failing student 8)

    Every time history repeats itself, the price goes up...East Wing Rules

    by Pithy Cherub on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 07:45:27 AM PST

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