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Kenneth Parcell aka Kenneth the Page aka Bobby Jindal
Pity the party that needs to choose
between Mitt and Bobby
Wednesday, Mitt Romney unrepudiated his 47 percent theory, saying that President Barack Obama only won the election because he bribed specific ethnic and demographic groups with "free" stuff—specifically, Obamacare to African-Americans, a requirement that insurance policies cover contraception for "young college-aged women" (apparently he was too polite to say "sluts"), lower interest rates for college students, and "amnesty for children of illegals" for Latinos.

In other words, Romney confirmed that the guy in that 47 percent video was the real Romney and that he's as big a dick as we thought he was. And now that he's lost, his fellow Republicans are naturally running from him as fast as they can. Take, for example, 2016 hopeful Bobby Jindal:

Asked about the failed GOP nominee’s reported comments on a conference call with donors earlier Wednesday, the incoming chairman of the Republican Governors Association became visibly agitated.

“No, I think that’s absolutely wrong,” he said at a press conference that opened the RGA’s post-election meeting here. “Two points on that: One, we have got to stop dividing the American voters. We need to go after 100 percent of the votes, not 53 percent. We need to go after every single vote.

“And, secondly, we need to continue to show how our policies help every voter out there achieve the American Dream, which is to be in the middle class, which is to be able to give their children an opportunity to be able to get a great education. … So, I absolutely reject that notion, that description. I think that’s absolutely wrong.”

So in one corner you've got Romney saying Democrats won because they were bribing specific demographic groups, and in the other corner, you've got Jindal saying Republicans lost because they failed to sell their conservative vision of doing nothing.

Romney's analysis is more offensive, but they are both wrong. The reality is that the things Romney described as "gifts" to specific constituency groups aren't gifts at all. They are examples of government doing what it should be doing: helping Americans. And the reason Democrats won is because in their vision of government, government should help people.

The funny thing is that when it comes down to it, even Jindal agrees, at least with his actions if not his words. When Louisiana was devastated after Hurricane Katrina, he certainly didn't see federal aid as a "gift"—he saw it as the government helping citizens. But now that the government is helping citizens obtain health insurance, Jindal sees it as an outrageous expansion of the state. He's got the political smarts not to use Romney's rhetoric, but his position is every bit as politically untenable as Romney's.

In fact, I'll say this for Romney: He was dead wrong to say President Obama won by bribing specific demographic groups, but at least he implicitly recognized the people want a government that is on their side and actually does stuff. The problem with what Romney said is that he bought into the whole makers versus takers canard and then wrapped it in a layer of racism and sexism.

Jindal won't make that mistake, but if he wins the GOP nomination in 2016 and follows his own advice, he's going to get crushed. Voters may like the notion of less government when you ask them about it as an abstract question, but as the fabled "get your government hands of my Medicare" sign illustrates, when it comes down to it, people don't want less government—they want better government. I'll guarantee you that by 2016, millions of people who voted for Romney will feel just as strongly about preserving Obamacare as they do now about Medicare. And as long as Republicans fail to accept that reality, their political problems are going to keep on getting worse.

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  •  I didn't only vote for Obama (20+ / 0-)

    I fucking worked for him.  Pro bono.

    Where's my lavish fucking gifts?  Shower them upon me!

    CNN has called it: Luke Skywalker vs. the Death Star is a tie!

    by GOPGO2H3LL on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:17:13 AM PST

  •  What? (22+ / 0-)
    we need to continue to show how our policies help every voter out there achieve the American Dream, which is to be in the middle class,
    Actually, every voters dream is not to be in the middle class -- does Bobby think we have a glass ceiling for our dreams of success?  Frankly, my dream is to be the American J.K. Rowling and make a bazillion dollars, keep my money here and pay my taxes.

    I do hope Jindal makes a go for it in 2016.  He was one of the many missing from the clown car this year.

    " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:20:40 AM PST

  •  I want less government (14+ / 0-)

    in the form of less military involvement in other countries.

    Romney wasn't offering that. At all.

    Women do 2/3 of the world's work, receive 10% of the world's income and own 1% of the means of production.

    by LibrErica on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:21:12 AM PST

  •  I've long been annoyed (8+ / 0-)

    by the "less government" meme.

    It's nonsensical, because government isn't a "thing" to have more or less of.

    When you instead ask folk which things government does that they would like less of, the answers are far less ctegoric.

    Mostly, they will say things like "health care" ... but when pressed cannot then identify what they would like to see cut.

    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    by twigg on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:21:26 AM PST

  •  A pleasure to see Romney (and Limbaugh (8+ / 0-)

    and Fox) taking it on the chin from Republicans.

    But the dark force remains strong.  There was a wingnut letter in my local paper yesterday bemoaning the "destruction of America" resulting from the election.

    It started out with dismay that the country reelected "the president who presided over the largest increase in the national debt in history."

    How does one reason with a guy like that?

  •  see my sig (6+ / 0-)


    I've already forgotten who the Republican candidate was in 2012

    by memofromturner on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:21:38 AM PST

  •  Yeah. And I'm a Latino. (5+ / 0-)

    I'm waiting for mine too!
    Don't make me vote Republican in 2016 Mr. President.

  •  the redneck gopper racists don't care what (9+ / 0-)

    Piyush Jindal has to say. They don't even want brown people in their COUNTRY, much less in their party.

  •  Jindal is a hypocrite (4+ / 0-)

    He saw that Republican reaped what they sowed in the election and know that you can not win the election without winning  Blacks and Hispanics and Women votes ,

  •  And what did Romney think his donors wanted? (18+ / 0-)

    Gifts like lower taxes, more loopholes, less regulations so they could exploit more people.

    But to Romney those aren't gifts, they are "their due.". What a jerk.  Thank the gods we won't have Mitt Romney to kick around any more because he's retiring from public life.

    The scientific uncertainty doesn't mean that climate change isn't actually happening.

    by Mimikatz on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:23:17 AM PST

  •  actually, they hate obamacare for just that reason (2+ / 0-)
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    They know that once it takes hold, it will be as permanent as medicare and soc sec.

    They just don't want another successful and popular dem program.

    They still want to kill the new deal.  This isn't helping them.  Too bad.

    They aren't against health care, just any popular social program tied to the dems.

  •  Remember the Romney bus? (5+ / 0-)

    It looks like the GOP is preparing to give him a good view of its underside.

  •  Thing, BillO sez I want Things! Jindal/Haley 2016! (3+ / 0-)

    yksitoista ulotteinen presidentin shakki. / tappaa kaikki natsit "Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) 政治委员, 政委‽ Warning - some snark above ‽

    by annieli on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:25:58 AM PST

  •  Fine. It was the free cellphones. Now can we get (2+ / 0-)
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    back to teh crazy?
    Ne jamais interrompre votre ennemi lorsqu'il commet une erreur.

  •  Poor bastards. All that money and still can't (3+ / 0-)
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    buy a damn thing. Gotta be a 1% nightmare.

    Fuck Big Brother...from now on, WE'RE watching.

    by franklyn on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:29:05 AM PST

    •  Not a nightmare, it's a circle in Hell (1+ / 0-)
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      And if not one, it ought to be.

      Now how can I send that suggestion to the proper person to consider it? Prayer is only suitable for circumstances such as being treed by a bear.

  •  You can't get every vote, but... (1+ / 0-)
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    “No, I think that’s absolutely wrong,” he said at a press conference that opened the RGA’s post-election meeting here. “Two points on that: One, we have got to stop dividing the American voters. We need to go after 100 percent of the votes, not 53 percent. We need to go after every single vote.
    I don't think it's practical to go after every vote.  But it's sensible, and constructive, to try to reassure the folks who aren't going to vote for you that you're not out to make things intolerable for them if you win.  

    There seem to be a lot of Republicans who think things are going to become intolerable under Obama.  They're talking about shutting down their businesses rather than finding the best way to comply with "Obamacare".  Maybe we should try to reassure those folks.  I, for one, wouldn't mind paying the extra $0.13 per Papa John's pizzas that they estimate it would cost.  

    We're all pretty strange one way or another; some of us just hide it better. "Normal" is a dryer setting.

    by david78209 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:29:23 AM PST

    •  is it just me? (3+ / 0-)
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      do these people on the right continue to think we're all stupid? one week from an election that was preceded by 18 months of shitting on the rest of us?

      the right is cooked. they were blatant with their hatred and true beliefs and we all know mittens just said what they all are here it daily from rush limpdick and Fix.

      the demographics get worse for the republicans and they will be banished to the desert for at least a couple of decades.

      37% of the people consider themselves republicans and 30% of them consider themselves teahadists. i'll be damned in less than 20% of the country is gonna be behind the steering wheel ever again.

      mittens=edsel. no matter how much money is spent to promote it, if the product sucks, no one will buy it.

      by wewantthetruth on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 09:00:27 AM PST

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  •  I wish someone in the media would say... (8+ / 0-)

    Of course politicians promise free stuff to people, everyone wants free stuff. Romney promised the whole country that he could give them free tax cuts that would magically eliminate the deficit and create 12 million jobs.

    The difference is that Obama promised people, who had very little, to realistically give them what they needed to survive with an actual plan to do it.  Romney promised people who have enjoyed excesses beyond what any human could ever need even more money and favors in return for their financial support.

    Why do the media feel they can keep this "the brown people want something free and Obama promised it to them" mantra going non-stop without ever mentioning that the billionaire donors to Romney wanted stuff to and Romney was running on their right to have more of it.

    "Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not YET sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favour..."

    by Buckeye Nut Schell on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:29:40 AM PST

  •  ROMNEY'S KIDS (3+ / 0-)
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    ...are probably wondering why Dad couldn't get them that zero-estate-tax and zero-capital-gains-tax gift for the holidays this year.

  •  Poor Mitt, (4+ / 0-)
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    He just doesn't get that the reason we voted for Obama is that we wanted someone that would take responsibility for stuff.

    NOT someone who would blame everyone else.

    Keep moving. Its harder to hit a moving target.

    by KatGirl on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:31:13 AM PST

  •  So, basically, Romney's 47% comment (3+ / 0-)

    was right...he just got the math wrong (again) and it was actually 51% of the country who are moochers.  He needs to go back to whatever hole he crawled out of.

    Jindal just strikes me as just as weasly and self serving as Ryan.  Not smart so much on his own as able to speak coherently enough of other's ideas as to make himself attractive.  Plus, gotta say, the Republicans will definitely be in a twist about putting people who look like Jindal or women on their podium.

    If you took the greed out of Wall Street all you’d have left is pavement ~Robert Reich

    by k8dd8d on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:32:44 AM PST

  •  Jindal is a hypocrite. Money for hurricanes, not (7+ / 0-)


    Complained Jindal of the package, "It includes ... $140 million for something called 'volcano monitoring.' Instead of monitoring volcanoes, what Congress should be monitoring is the eruption of spending in Washington, D.C."
    It is beyond unreasonable for a man who expects us to spend billions to defend a city built below sea level from storms, yet make fun of the efforts to protect cities on the other side of the country from volcanoes.    Before you mock too much, recall that in 1980 Mt St. Helens killed 57 people and devestated areas downstream.   The city of Seattle is in the shadow of Mt Ranier, an active volcano that has the potential to kill millions.    

    Damn straight, we want volcano research.   We also want sea walls and whatever it takes to protect our fellow citizens in New Orleans -- but do not appreciate people from New Orleans mocking our efforts at disaster preparation.   A lot of work has been done and we are better prepared than we were in 1980, but of course much more needs to happen.   People like Jindal are not helpful to American progress.

    •  That is the first thing that comes to mind (1+ / 0-)
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      whenever I see his name or face: That he thinks only Hawaii has active Volcanoes and that we should defund the USGS because "they don't do nuthin but suck money down for no apparent reason."

      Hey Bobby, you lay down with baggers, you wake up with dain bramage.

  •  It is shocking that Romney said what he did. (6+ / 0-)

    Is he really that self-unaware? Is he really that ungratious in defeat? Is he really that big of a prick?

    Anyone who was unsure, but then voted for Obama will be vindicated by this.  We have no idea how big a bullet we dodged.

    All you  young'uns, make sure that his sons never succeed in politics!

    "Don't bring that horse in here!" -- Cassandra

    by tc59 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:33:48 AM PST

  •  Mitt: you lost because nobody likes you. (6+ / 0-)

    You didn't notice this in college? It didn't strike you in France? You didn't pick up on it in kindergarten? You didn't see it in your parents' faces? You haven't eavesdropped on your sons when they thought you were out?

    Mitt, you could have promised a dollar to every American - you can afford it, you know - and we still would have voted for Obama.

    Because PBO is likeable, and you aren't.

    Now go back in your hole.

    Am I right, or am I right? - The Singing Detective

    by Clem Yeobright on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:34:04 AM PST

    •  Hell, he could have given every Democrat... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...and Independent $1 million in random, unmarked $100 bills, and he'd still have lost.

      And he and Rove would be on the lam right now!

      Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

      by JeffW on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 10:21:04 AM PST

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  •  You have to pity the Repugs... (3+ / 0-)
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    They've collectively taken on the mythological role of Sysiphys, that poor mendacious prick of a king who was condemned forever to roll a giant boulder up a hill until, nearly at the crest, it would roll back to the bottom and he had to chase it down and start over.

    Jindal expresses it well:   "...we need to continue to show how our policies help every voter out there achieve the American Dream, which is to be in the middle class, which is to be able to give their children an opportunity to be able to get a great education."

    Now, how you gonna do that, Bobby?  Because they don't help voters out there.  Because every time you get close to it, another damned capitalist crisis rolls your rock back down into the Vale of Being Misunderstood.  

    By the way, who IS that photoshopped young-Eric-Idle look-alike up there?

    •  Not a fan of "30 Rock", I take it. (2+ / 0-)
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      Jack McBrayer, the actor who portrays the character Kenneth (shown), has a voice that sounds almost identical to Jindal's. It. Is. Uncanny.

      "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

      by bryduck on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:43:55 AM PST

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      •  Oops, you're probably referring to the (0+ / 0-)

        dustbin pic, huh. Color me embarrassed!

        "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

        by bryduck on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:44:53 AM PST

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  •  This Mitt thing and the Ryan comments (2+ / 0-)
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    about losing the urban vote really make my blood boil.

    I wish someone would ask them specfically why they lost Iowa then.  Or New Hampshire.  

    I've found that sometimes the people most likely to be so-called 'takers' are the ones voting Republican.

    In the DM Register the day after the election, they had a feature with several voters saying who they voted for and why.  One was a 37 year old woman who was a single mom and a Democrat and she voted for Romney.  Her reason was Obama Care.  So far that's fine.  I disagree, but that's a valid reason.  Then she goes on to say that her and her two children can't afford health insurance and they don't have it, so that's why she didn't like Obama Care.  At this point, my blood is boiling and I feel like demanding that her name be put on some list because I certainly don't want to pay for HER healthcare if she gets sick and goes to the ER and can't pay.

  •  Continue to show how our policies help every voter (1+ / 0-)
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    Thus saith Bobby Jindal.  They do not need to examine their policies and they certainly do not need to change them.  They are perfect as they are.  All we need to do is speak more slowly and everyone will see that we are right.

    Never change, GOP.  Never change.

    A new birth of freedom..

    by docterry on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:45:47 AM PST

  •  Oh Come ON Mitt! (3+ / 0-)

    George W. Bush gave away the store...

    For instance...
    How about the massive tax cuts he doled out to the 1%?
    How about Part D which he added to Medicare without a revenue stream to pay for it?

    Lets get real old chap.... You lost because you wrote off 47% of the population and pissed off another 5% for doing so...

  •  Over 1500 comments and counting (3+ / 0-)
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    wewantthetruth, JeffW, GOPGO2H3LL

    in the NYT piece that first broke this story, nearly all of them anti-Romney.

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:47:16 AM PST

  •  Bobby had a personality transplant? (1+ / 0-)
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    "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

    by LaurenMonica on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:47:37 AM PST

  •  I smell a 2016 bid..... nt (1+ / 0-)
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    The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'. ~ Larry Hardiman

    by shel3364 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:50:20 AM PST

  •  Pity indeed (1+ / 0-)
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    Pity the party that needs to choose between Mitt and Bobby
    Do you want to get shot with a new gun or hung with an old rope?
  •  Uh, Bobby...the American Dream isn't to "be in (3+ / 0-)
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    the middle class."  

    When it comes to financial well-being, people want to be richer than they currently are...regardless of where they are.  When I made 28K a year as a teacher, my life goal was to get to 60K a year (I figured that would be enough to live comfortably and never want for more).  I passed that figure 12 years ago and set my sights higher, thinking 100K was the magic number.  There is no magic number.  

    Seeing our troops come home from Afghanistan, that is the American Dream to me.

    Making education affordable to all, that is the American Dream to me.

    Universal healthcare.  Ending poverty for all.  Nurturing, not raping, the environment.  Those are part of the American Dream.

    I have a wonderful wife, two good dogs and a loving cat, am fairly close with my family, and have a nice circle of friends...and live in a nice, modest house looking out at the ocean.  That, for me, is the American dream.  

    Whether I crack 200K in the next few years is not the American Dream...though it would be nice.

    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by darthstar on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:52:14 AM PST

  •  Mitt - These Are How Elections Work (2+ / 0-)
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    Let me 'splain something.

    Candidates make promises to their constituents in order to get their votes.

    Is that concept somehow completely foreign to you? Well -- it shouldn't be.

    You see -- Obama made promises to the 99%, like (egad) health care, or (worse) reducing student loan debt, or (we're talking Marxist Kenyan Muslim to the 9s) not shredding the safety net.

    You -- Mitt -- made promises of even bigger task breaks to your consituents -- the 1%.

    Now -- there's this great equalizer called the ballot box where it's not one $ one vote, but one man/woman one vote.

    And guess what?


  •  Jindal has ALREADY "reduced government" in LA (2+ / 0-)
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    --Our health care system is, as we speak, being cut to just the bare minimum necessary to maintain our public medical school's accreditation.  Supposedly "public/private" negotiations are taking place but at least in my area the private hospitals were approached AFTER the cuts were being made, causing a severe gap in services.  Rmoney's assertion that health care should be left up to the states, and Ryan's that we do have national health care--it's called " emergency rooms" is pretty much all we have left in many areas of our state.  The poor and uninsured are forced to go to the state hospitals, only to be given only the most rudimentary of care if any at all.

    --Our higher ed system has been cut through flesh to bone and about to get worse with new admission standards that will take place in 2014, when a disproportionate percentage of minority students will go to our underfunded, underdeveloped community college system (one of the weakest in the country) and the 4 year schools will be forced to recruit who is left or die.  Our flagship will be ok as far as enrollment but that is a relative thing because they've been cut so much that class sizes are unreasonably high and faculty are fleeing in droves.  Not to mention that Jindal's faction pretty much runs the flagship system.  Our HBCUs are most at risk and already one had been targeted by the governor's office for closure/merger during the last legislative session.

    --Our state benefit system has been privatized to save money... yet incredibly they are asking for MORE money in this year's budget than last when it was state-run.  Oh, and when the legislative committee responsible for approving BCBS of LA to take over said system didn't approve it, some of the committee members were booted, Jindal supporters were named, and a week later the vote went Jindal's way.  Kind of like Huey Long without any of the socialism.

    --A K-12 voucher system was rammed down the legislative process last year, where now even tiny bible academies which had never enrolled more than a few dozen students are getting state funding to enroll hundreds with limited oversight.

    --Legislators are begging Jindal to please accept the additional Medicaid funds that come with Obamacare (we just absorbed a huge cut otherwise) but he isn't budging for obvious reasons.  The bar to receive any kind of Medicare benefit here is so impossibly high for a poor state it is criminal.  Families making any more than 25% of the federal poverty line are ineligible for Medicare here.  That's about $4600 for a family of 3 for those of you watching at home.

    I could go on, but suffice it to say that Rmoney might have talked the talk (at least part of the time), but Jindal is a true believer in "limited" government and has aggressively acted on those beliefs since he has been in office.  Even if he becomes vice president I can see him being a heavy handed Cheney like figure.  He could do a lot of damage as education or health secretary.

    He is a very SMART politician.  Do not underestimate Jindal.  Smart in an evil way.  He is expert in (1) crafting trojan horse policies and legislation in which any bad effects do not reflect upon him and (2) getting his agenda passed by hook or by crook.  I am especially familiar with his higher education agenda and  GRAD ACT and it is indeed masterful politically.  Evil, but masterful.

    It seems that Jindal overreached with the recent cuts to the hospital system but up until then he pretty much got his way without much effective pushback... mainly because he is an extremely savvy politician and has his surrogates do most of the heavy lifting for him.

    •  I meant Medicaid (1+ / 0-)
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      above, not Medicare. n/t

    •  Bobby Jindal is the poster boy for ALEC. (2+ / 0-)
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      ulyankee, JeffW

      People in LA fell for his aw shucks manner and with their blessing, he has savaged education, state employee benefits, and health care in rapid fashion. LA is screwed for decades to come thanks to Piyush Jindal and his ALEC pals.

      “With these (education) laws Gov. Bobby Jindal has sold our kids out for his political aspirations,” said Karran Harper Royal, a Louisiana parent activist and education advocate. This covers all of his handiwork since taking office.

      ulyankee is right. Do not underestimate Piyush. He is ego-driven and very scary as demonstrated in LA.

      "We believe 'we're all in this together' is a far better philosophy than 'you're on your own.' " Bill Clinton

      by amity75 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 09:53:36 AM PST

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  •  Mitt, Mitt-- Those grapes are sour, aren't they? (1+ / 0-)
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    This bitter entitled attitude makes me doubly thrilled Mitt was defeated!

    FYI, we underestimate Bobby Jindal at our own risk...even as Jindal gripes about "Northeastern liberal academics"- while happily obtaining his degree from Brown University. No, LSU was not good enough for him!

  •  Help GOP get the word out (1+ / 0-)
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    The best strategy for Dems is to help better communicate the GOPs message to voters, explain to the voters what it means and then how Democratic policies would be better.  

    For example, Mourdock's "gaffe" is actually a case of a politician telling the unvarnished truth as seen by the hardcore GOP.  It seems reasonable to believe that human life and therefore human rights begins at conception; however, starting from that belief you end up with bans not only on typical abortions, but on many forms of contraception and as an added bonus rape becomes just another "method of conception".  Plus the government gets to decide whether the risks to the mother override the rights of the fetus.  Dems shouldn't hope that a GOPer will accidentally reveal the truth about some of trojan horse rhetoric; Dems should let the GOP's cat out of the bag rather than let them continue to bamboozle the electorate.

    My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.—Carl Schurz
    Give 'em hell, Barry—Me

    by KingBolete on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 09:20:15 AM PST

  •  This morning on NPR (2+ / 0-)
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    there were two stories about the Republican reboot.  Republican governors met and decided to:

    1.  Keep Reince Preibus
    2.  Design a kinder, gentler bigotry
    3.  Be a little nicer to Hispanics, but no so nice as to offend the white people.

    Then there was a piece on young Republicans whining that no one understands them.

    I felt like Tommy Flanagan:  "Yeah, yeah, that's the ticket!"

  •  That being said, it didn't hurt. (1+ / 0-)
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    Wednesday, Mitt Romney unrepudiated his 47 percent theory, saying that President Barack Obama only won the election because he bribed specific ethnic and demographic groups with "free" stuff—specifically, Obamacare to African-Americans, a requirement that insurance policies cover contraception for "young college-aged women" (apparently he was too polite to say "sluts"), lower interest rates for college students, and "amnesty for children of illegals" for Latinos.

    Intolerance betrays want of faith in one's cause. - Gandhi

    by SpamNunn on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 09:34:04 AM PST

  •  Seriously RMoney? Obama did the bribing? (3+ / 0-)
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    Or was it that so many of us were fed up with self important corporate fat cats trying to BUY our election right out from under us via disenfranchising voters through new effed up laws, written to benefit the scions of Americans United.

    If RMoney were mad that bribery were taking place, because Bribery in and of itself is wrong, somehow I suspect he campaign would have looked remarkably different than it did.

    And protecting women's rights isn't Bribery. That's called upholding the laws of the land, based on civil rights you great blithering ASS.

  •  GOP to Mittens: Get in your private jet and GTFO. (1+ / 0-)
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    And take Rafalca with you.

  •  here's a song for Mitty the Moocher (0+ / 0-)

    he's the  new Cab Callous-way

  •  Isn't that what politics is? (1+ / 0-)
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    You get elected to provide things voters want/need.

  •  Takes guts to oppose someone after the election. (1+ / 0-)
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    I don't recall seeing him up on the stage during the Republican primary debates...

  •  Mitt again makes the 47% argument (1+ / 0-)
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    Maybe now it is a 53% argument.  Obama voters are irresponsible moochers who don't want to take responsibility for their lives.  Obama gave them stuff, so they voted for him.

    Evidently Romney - again - didn't think he was talking to anyone but his friends, so he told the truth about how he sees the world.  Thanks again, Mitt.  You are the gift that just can't stop giving.

    The median family income is $50K per year.  Let's double that, and challenge Mitt and Ann to live for 12 months and spend only $100K doing it.  We'll see how much they really know about America.

    A new birth of freedom..

    by docterry on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 10:06:23 AM PST

  •  Jindal is ALREADY toast (1+ / 0-)
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    in any campaign on the national level, no matter what nonsense the GOP's fake-prognosticators might pull from their asses (and I'm nearly as convinced that Marco Rubio is stalled in the garage, even before he's gotten started).

    His wooden demeanor aside, Jindal is weighed-down with exactly all the extreme, risable, antique, and irrational props of the GOP culture-war as any true wingnut. A Bobby Jindal can't muse about the future of America, when he's so bound to silly-yet-oppressive "faith-based" notions. He is no less a thing of the past than the other men in his majority-white GOP...

    There is also racism: Piyush Jindal and Bobby Jindal aren't like Clark Kent and Superman - "Bobby" is still a man whose physical profile might well stir up feelings of fearful and resentful nationalism in white male GOP voters in the South and West who feel backed into a corner, "real" Americans besieged by The Other. Let there be no talk of tolerance or forward-mindedness in the GOP, kiss my ass! - it is fixin' to become a well-funded-but-regional white-nationalist party, a dog wagged by the tail of the former Confederacy, our own National Front...

  •  Little Bobby (0+ / 0-) pushing really hard to get to the front of the line. But if he keeps his current positions, he'll lose the primaries!

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