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If there's one thing both parties in Washington can agree on, it is the necessity of getting to the bottom of the Sept. 11 assault on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that killed four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has already agreed to testify to Congress after the completion of the State Department's Accountability Review Board investigation now underway. As for President Obama, he reiterated during his press conference Wednesday that "it is important for us to find out exactly what happened in Benghazi, and I'm happy to cooperate in any ways that Congress wants."

Needless to say, that transparency is not good enough for Republicans and their amen corner. After all, while John McCain called the tragedy a scandal worse than Watergate or Iran/Contra, GOP water carriers like Charles Krauthammer and Glenn Beck charged the Obama administration with trying to silence former CIA chief David Petraeus.

Of course, when comes to avoiding accountability and deflecting blame for national security catastrophes and foreign policy failures, the Bush administration and its Republican allies wrote the book. Here are just some of the pages Obama chose to ignore.

Oppose the Investigation.  As the chorus grew in early 2002 to create a commission to investigate the 9/11 attacks that killed 3,000 people, President Bush, Vice President Cheney and their allies said no. While Cheney warned "the people and agencies responsible for helping us learn about and defeat such an attack are the very ones most likely to be distracted from their critical duties if Congress fails to carry out their obligations in a responsible fashion," House Majority Leader Tom Delay declared:

"A public commission investigating American intelligence in a time of war is ill conceived and, frankly, irresponsible. We need to address America's challenges in intelligence gathering and terrorist prevention. But we don't need to hand the terrorists an after-action report."
Delay's Senate counterpart Trent Lott went a step further, arguing that "there's nothing more despicable ... for someone to insinuate that the president of the United States knew there was an attack on our country that was imminent and didn't do anything about it." His GOP colleague from Texas Kay Bailey Hutchison concurred, protesting, "I don't think that anyone should start pointing fingers in a personal way or suggest that people are trying to cover their political backsides."

Agree to Testify, But Not Under Oath.  Ultimately, President Bush yielded to mounting public pressure and agreed to support the 9/11 Commission under the aegis of Henry Kissinger. (Unwilling to reveal his financial interests, Kissinger withdrew.) But as for his own participation, Bush agreed to testify, but on the conditions that he be questioned behind closed doors jointly with Vice President Cheney and neither man would be under oath. As President Bush explained his White House meeting with the 9/11 commissioners on April 29, 2004:

"If we had something to hide, we wouldn't have met with them in the first place. I came away good about the session, because I wanted them to know, you know, how I set strategy, how we run the White House, how we deal with threats.

The vice president answered a lot of their questions, answered all their questions. And I think it was important for them to see our body language as well, how we work together."

Delay the Findings for Years. After learning that there were in fact no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence in 2003 launched an investigation. But thanks to the maneuvering of GOP Chairman Pat Roberts (R-KS), the committee divided its work into two phases. But Phase 2, the probe dealing with the Bush administration's uses and misuses of pre-war intelligence, would not be completed until after the November 2004 election. (The Silbermann-Robb commission similarly punted on that vital question, noting that "Well, on the [that] point, we duck. That is not part of our charter.")

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When the Phase 1 report was published in July 2004, Roberts crowed, "the committee found no evidence that the intelligence community's mischaracterization or exaggeration of intelligence on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction capabilities was the result of politics or pressure." But as Vice Chairmen Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) protested:

"There is a real frustration over what is not in this report, and I don't think was mentioned in Chairman Roberts' statement, and that is about the -- after the analysts and the intelligence community produced an intelligence product, how is it then shaped or used or misused by the policy-makers? So again there's genuine frustration -- and Chairman Roberts and I have discussed this many times -- that virtually everything that has to do with the administration has been relegated to phase two. My hope is that we will get this done as soon as possible."
But in March 2005, Roberts announced that Phase 2 "is basically on the back burner." As he explained:
"I don't think there should be any doubt that we have now heard it all regarding prewar intelligence. I think that it would be a monumental waste of time to replow this ground any further...To go through that exercise, it seems to me, in a post-election environment--we didn't see how we could do that and achieve any possible progress. I think everybody pretty well gets it."
Give Rice Better Sound Bites.  On Wednesday, Republican Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham announced they would try to block the potential appointment of UN Ambassador Susan Rice to succeed Hillary Clinton. Calling Rice "not very bright," McCain blasted her Sept. 16 statements about the Benghazi killings to ABC's This Week.

Of course, when the Rice in question was named Condoleezza and worked for a Republican president, John McCain took a different tack. After all, Condi Rice famously warned of Saddam's non-existent weapons of mass destruction, "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud." In 2004, she sheepishly described the critical Aug. 6, 2001 presidential daily brief admitted to the 9/11 Commission, "I believe the title was 'Bin Laden determined to strike in U.S.'"

Nevertheless, when Bush's national security adviser was nominated for secretary of state in 2005, John McCain declared, "Condoleezza Rice is a great American success story" and "a person of integrity." Slamming those who "challenged her integrity," McCain groused:

"I see this [as] some lingering bitterness over a very tough campaign. I hope it dissipates soon."
Attack the Victims' Families.  During the last weeks of the 2012 presidential election, Republican Mitt Romney was criticized for trying to appropriate the Benghazi victims for his campaign. (Among those pushing back was the father of Ambassador Stevens and the mother of the former Navy SEAL killed there.)

But back in 2007, current House Oversight and Government Reform Committee chairman Darrell Issa had a novel approach. During committee hearings into the slaughter of private security contractors in Fallujah, Issa defended Blackwater by mocking the victims' families to their faces:

"Although I don't think your testimony today is particularly germane to the oversight of this committee, I am deeply sorry for the losses that you've had...One question I have is, the opening statement, who wrote it?"
And so it goes.

Of course, the list of GOP national security scandal defenses is a much longer one. Republicans in Congress refused to hold hearing, as Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts did after revelations about the NSA's program of illicit domestic surveillance. When pressed by the media, the president could deny having made any mistakes, as President Bush did in 2004. (Three years later, Bush admitted one to Scott Pelley of CBS: "Using bad language like, you know, 'bring them on' was a mistake.") Despite 3,000 killed on 9/11 and thousands of dead and wounded American troops in Iraq, Republicans declared that President Bush "kept us safe." And his father showed in the wake of the Iran/Contra scandal, you can always pardon those convicted for wrong-doing by defending them as victims of the "criminalization of politics."

In contrast, President Obama has demanded truth and accountability for the horrific  tragedy in Libya. Thus far, he has refused to follow any of the usual Republicans approaches to the Benghazi scandal. Of course, that is due in large part to fact that there isn't one.

Originally posted to Jon Perr on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 01:07 PM PST.

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  •  Republicans can't even figure out which conspiracy (24+ / 0-)

    theory to believe here.

    They claim Petreaus was forced out so he wouldn't testify. But, he will testify.

    They claim it's suspicious that the President didn't tell us about Petreaus earlier. But, now it turns out Republican leader Eric Cantor knew about it for weeks and the White House was in the dark about it.

    They claim Obama apologized for the protests, but he didn't. They claim he didn't call it terrorism, but he did. They say he shouldn't have changed his mind and said it might, have been linked to the protests, but it turns out that's exactly what the CIA said, and it probably did play a role.

    This is shameful, shameful politicization of tragedy. I'd like to see McCain brought up on Ethics charges for his irresponsible behavior in this case.

    Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

    by tekno2600 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 07:32:14 PM PST

  •  My advice to President Obama: (12+ / 0-)

    Don't listen to Republicans. That pretty much goes for anything.

    "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for a real Republican every time." Harry Truman

    by MargaretPOA on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 07:32:15 PM PST

    •  Since W's (s)election in 2000 (0+ / 0-)

      my default mode has been to do the opposite of whatever the Republican'ts want to do.

      It's worked surprisingly well so far.

      "Push the button, Max!" Jack Lemmon as Professor Fate, The Great Race

      by bartcopfan on Fri Nov 16, 2012 at 07:04:12 AM PST

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  •  Don't forget the Comrade Ogilvy strategy, used (15+ / 0-)

    in both the Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch disasters.  Make someone a hero to cover up your own blunders.

    You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

    by Cartoon Peril on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 07:34:20 PM PST

  •  Here's my advice to the Republicans: (3+ / 0-)
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    Shahryar, jazzence, emal

    Ahem:  SYFPH!

    That is all.

    I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and shit a better argument than that.

    by TigerMom on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 07:37:00 PM PST

  •  why don't they pull a Rove? (1+ / 0-)
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    and just not show up?

  •  Monica "Too Fucking Stupid To Prosecute" Goodling (2+ / 0-)
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    jazzence, wasatch

    Monica's defense was that she was just too freaking dumb to grill under oath.

    There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

    by bernardpliers on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 07:38:00 PM PST

  •  I still want to know who met with Cheney (8+ / 0-)

    and the minutes of their meeting while discussing how to carve up the world "energy policy".

    Every time that I think they have finally bottomed out and landed among the tube worms, they find a way to sink to new lows.

    Have you hugged your Boeuf Bourguignon today?

    by wretchedhive on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 07:39:29 PM PST

  •  Self serving hypocrites eot (0+ / 0-)

    To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains premature today. Isaac Asimov

    by Kairos on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 07:40:39 PM PST

  •  This nonsense keeps us from discussing WHAT? (1+ / 0-)
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    Climate change gets my vote hands down.

  •  Here's a tip to enhance national security (2+ / 0-)
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    LilithGardener, Boris49

    Don't appoint any more repugs to national security posts.

    And make sure that the next head of the CIA understands that people's lives are at stake in what he does and that he should read security guidelines. Hell even the old verions of AR 380-5 would have been good enough to prevent most of this crap.

    If... the machine of government... is of such a nature that it requires you to be the agent of injustice to another, then, I say, break the law. ~Henry David Thoreau, On the Duty of Civil Disobediance, 1849

    by shigeru on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 07:43:49 PM PST

  •  Sheesh, Fawn Hall (0+ / 0-)

    Let's do the time warp again

    [sorry about the ad at the beginning, couldn't get rid of it]

    Yesterday's weirdness is tomorrow's reason why. -- Hunter S. Thompson

    by Mnemosyne on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 07:44:23 PM PST

  •  I'm glad there is a diary on this. (10+ / 0-)

    What the hell do they think happened?  I mean what could possibly have happened that is so bad that it would require a cover up?

    I can't figure out this fetish with one tragedy. Do they think it was preventable and there was no action like  a "Bin Laden determined to strike" memo?

    Can someone translate this for me?

    "Jersey_Boy" was taken.

    by New Jersey Boy on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 07:45:52 PM PST

    •  Wild speculation (1+ / 0-)
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      There were Libyan militia held at the CIA annex. The attack was planned to take the Ambassador hostage and try to negotiate the exchange of the Ambassador for the prisoners.

      CIA detention was already illegal.

      Put Pres Obama in a bind, he might have lost the election.

      Remember Romney's obvious glee in that news conference where he pre-empted the President's Presser?

      •  But, the ambassador died from smoke (0+ / 0-)

        inhalation. He wasn't the target. He was an innocent bystander.

        Look - it is a tragedy that a foreign ambassador died. He was an American Hero. But, I seriously think that's the end of the story.

        Anyway, thanks for the CT. I guess we'll see if that's what plays out after the "thorough investigation."

        "Jersey_Boy" was taken.

        by New Jersey Boy on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 05:41:52 AM PST

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  •  Why do the Republicans keep (2+ / 0-)
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    paintitblue, wasatch

    saying the Administration lied about the nature of the attacks?  Don't you have to have some reason to lie?  I don't understand what benefit the administration gains if it was a spontaneous attack vs. a premeditated attack.  And they also seem to think that if the attack was premeditated, then it couldn't have been linked to the movie.  But they can't explain why.

    •  GOP meme (0+ / 0-)

      One of their favorite memes is "Pres. Bush kept us safe" from terrorist attacks--post 9/11 of course.

      They would like to play up any nominally "terrorist" attack on the US as evidence that Pres. Obama, by contrast, endangers us. US embassies are by definition US "soil" so dot dot dot.

      If the attack was caused by the offensive film, then the cause could be attributed to bigotry, putting Republicans in the hot seat (they know who they are).

      That's my read anyway.

  •  The reason they keep harping on this crap: (2+ / 0-)
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    paintitblue, helfenburg

    Their presidential candidate got called out for spouting bullshit on the subject.

    As long as they keep pretending, they can pretend that they weren't complete idiots in nominating a guy who had completely lost touch with reality.

    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 07:48:56 PM PST

  •  Bush lost 1,000's of to terrorists-Reagan lost... (4+ / 0-)

    hundreds of Americans to terrorists over multiple terrorist attacks during his 8 years--and Now the Republicans are "concerned"??

    Maybe the republicans should investigate why they believe that only Democratic Presidents should be magically able to stop terrorist attacks and while at the same time they just accept that republican presidents can't?  

    These "concerned" republicans apparently hadn't been paying attention to the actual situation in Libya before the Benghazi incident, but no doubt the Ambassador was fully aware of the dangers of his assignment.  

    All that republicans care about is attacking Democrats and if they have to ally with terrorists to do so, they don't hesitate.

    •  I never could figure out why W was supposed to be (4+ / 0-)

      this awesome security president who was keeping us all safe when he presided over the only attack on mainland U.S. soil by a foreign agent since 1812.

      Is that what it is to be good on security? Tough on terrorists?  Just how much credit do you get for giving a stirring speech?

      Being ignored is the difference between being a one percenter and an American.--sweeper

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:18:59 PM PST

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    •  my thought exactly (2+ / 0-)
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      kurious, bartcopfan

      There have always been two sets of rules for them.
      This is their wheel house. Lying, obfuscating, deflecting, attacking.
      Where are our outraged Democratic voices, surrogates of the administration if you will? Are they just not getting the broad screen time the the old man is? Whenever Grumpy screams, we need Dems to scream louder. Now I'd love to see a national ad with Grumpy's comments on the floor regarding Condi Rice, then his new opinion on the same situation with Susan Rice. With their last names being the same, the ad makes itself.
      We know this is silly sour grapes maneuvering to try to... Hell I don't know what they're trying to do really.
      My fear is that if they continue to ramp this up, and it continues to be a major story, we'll find ourselves dealing with another impeachment.
      I do hope that's an exaggeration on my part. But I can't put it past them, or our media.
      As the diarist so clearly points out, there are so many examples of Republican national security failures, we should have no problem making this a non story. But our people are (thankfully) logical, sensible, gentlemen and women. While their's are brawlers. We don't want a fight, there's serious business at hand, but they're forcing us to put our dukes up. The question is, will we be fighting on their turf or ours.

      "Please proceed, Governor."

      by Dema Broad on Fri Nov 16, 2012 at 12:27:13 AM PST

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      •  These are the people that impeached Clinton... (2+ / 0-)
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        bartcopfan, Dema Broad

        and demanded that a 24/7 media circus of a sex factoids take front and center during the Clinton presidency.  Meanwhile, all other vital government business was put on the back burner.  And the sexcapades of the POTUS was put on the stage for the whole world to snicker about.  

        They can't stand the fact that a Dem won by a democratic election process. So now they are trying to overturn the results of the election by manufacturing another scandal where there is none.

        In the process who knows what national security or covert missions might be inadvertently exposed in their blundering vendetta against their political enemy?  


        ..News Outlets Held Back Detail Of Benghazi Attack At CIA's Request...

        ...the CIA's presence in Benghazi, Libya, and the agency's response to the Sept. 11, 2012, attack, while also identifying the two former Navy SEALs killed that night as being employed by the CIA...

        "Cover is a mosaic, it's a puzzle," said James Marcinkowski, a former CIA case officer who attended the dinner. "Every piece is important [to protect] because you don't know which pieces the bad guys are missing..."

        ...the precious, concealing commodity that the intelligence community calls cover. The term refers to the amalgam of lies and props, from false names to phony front companies, that disguise a spy's true identity and purpose...

        As many as one-third of the CIA's approximately 20,000 employees are under cover or have worked in that capacity at some point in their careers, according to former CIA officials...

        ...The vast majority of the agency's overseas officers are under what is known as "official cover," which means they are posing as employees of another government agency. The State Department allows hundreds of its positions in embassies around the world to be occupied by CIA officers representing themselves as diplomats...

        Pundits and politicians have been publicly figuratively scratching their heads with questions like "What was Ambassador Stevens doing in Benghazi??"...

        While its expected that pundits be a wee bit thick-headed, it really should be expected that politicians who are entrusted with overseeing govt. agencies would be smart enough to shut up about diplomatic/ covert missions--at least until they know for a fact that a diplomatic mission wasn't in fact a covert mission that they should not be exploring before the world's news cameras.  

        They should have enough honor and responsibility to put the country's best interests ahead of their own political maneuvering, when they don't really know what's going on or whether their public blundering could be endangering covert missions and people's lives.  

  •  I've Fucking Had It (5+ / 0-)
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    jazzence, wasatch, emal, bartcopfan, diggerspop

    I've Fucking Had It (w/new original lead picture perfectly summing up the RWNJ response to Obama's re-election).


    Defending bad taste and liberalism since 2005.

    by jurassicpork on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 07:51:47 PM PST

  •  The best thing we can hope for is that these (2+ / 0-)
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    kmbaya, jazzence

    Insane psychos keep pushing this Benghazi B.S fantasy towards another impeachment attempt. They will be decimated in 2014 and the dems will coast to victory in the house.

  •  please proceed (0+ / 1-)
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    "It strikes me as gruesome and comical that in our culture we have an expectation that a man can always solve his problems" - Kurt Vonnegut

    by jazzence on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 07:55:28 PM PST

  •  Thanks very much for this review (5+ / 0-)

    of the vileness that was the Bush administration. While there were aspects of this I needed to be reminded of, I really didn't need to be nauseated by it all over again. That said, I will be using these reminders during the conversations that take place in the upcoming holidays.

    •  amazing how quickly we forget...I will use it too. (0+ / 0-)

      if I remember!

      "I think it is much more interesting to live not knowing than to have answers that might be wrong." Richard Feynman

      by leema on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:13:43 PM PST

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      •  don't forget... (0+ / 0-)

        When Dubya and Dickie gave their behind-closed-doors, not-under-oath testimony, those standing outside reported hearing frequent bursts of laughter coming from the room, showing just how seriously these two took the proceedings.  

        I've never been sure, but I believe that the laughter was occcasioned by their Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy impressions, with Dubya sitting on Dickie's knee, rolling his eyes and wondering what he would be saying next.  

  •  My surmise. (1+ / 0-)
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    They don't want talk Israel because it's easy to misstep. Syria has been run into the ground. No one wants hear about Afghanistan or  Pakistan. So attack on Benghazi. Why foreign affairs? Obama's high numbers on handling foreign affairs.

    They know the economy is picking up. Drilling is on pace. Immigration is now taboo. Social issues are fraught with peril. People are saying yes to drugs. There's just not a hell of a lot out there to attack. Must suck to be a Republican right now.

    "The human eye is a wonderful device. With a little effort, it can fail to see even the most glaring injustice." Richard K. Morgan

    by sceptical observer on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:01:00 PM PST

  •  Did Saint Lindsey (1+ / 0-)
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    hold Bush responsible before during and after the attacks on 9/11?

    The media needs to have that bit of hypocrisy pointed out.

  •  Lesson Learned... (2+ / 0-)
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    jrod, bartcopfan

    ALWAYS prosecute and impeach Republicans when given the opportunity. Because they'll do it to us....the difference being we will have an actual case.

    "Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?" - General Jack D. Ripper

    by wilder5121 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:25:08 PM PST

  •  a comment, only so i can find my way back: (0+ / 0-)

    and when i do, perhaps i'll have rec buttons waiting for me, too, so i can rec.
    it was a pleasant surprise having a new target page waiting for me, now that my darts are all resharpened and new flights have been attached.

    o i have a NEW SIG * but my OLD one's still unfinished.

    * Join: The Action: End the Bush Tax Cuts for Richest Two Percent * Addington's Perpwalk: TRAILHEAD of Accountability for Bush-2 Crimes.

    by greenbird on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:25:51 PM PST

  •  Impeached (1+ / 0-)
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    If any president should have been impeached, George W. Bush should have been the one.  Because there has been zero accountability and no justice for Iraq, torture, 9/11,spying on Americans, the firing of U.S. prosecutors, the outing of a CIA agent, and on and on..., GOP corruption and malfeasance continue to contaminate the body politic.

    "We have facts on our side. They have propaganda on their side."

    by rlharry on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:29:42 PM PST

  •  I remember it well, you wore blue and... (0+ / 0-)

    ... the Germans wore grey...

    ... and the Goodlings were at work...

    I must confess, I feel a little like Noah's personal assistant at times. After all, the Company is a little like the Ark. There is going to be a flood, and the Company is building the infra-structure for the survival of the Exalted Few.

    It is rapturous to know that by working for the Company and graduating from Regent University, or as we alumni affectionately call the school, RU Right, and even more importantly, being a Penitent Goodling; you know, those loyal adherents to Saint Goodling, that I am part of the Exalted Few, that I have a seat on the Ark.

    Praise be to the Lord!

    -- Justice Putnam
    Kurds and Weigh

    A Poet is at the same time a force for Solidarity and for Solitude -- Pablo Neruda / Netroots Radio podcasts of The After Show with Wink & Justice can be found on Stitcher

    by justiceputnam on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:33:43 PM PST

  •  obama could do (0+ / 0-)

    what the gop would do and pick a small country and invade it to cover up the benghazi (beirut) tragedy, aka grenada.

  •  Worse than Iran Contra?!!!! (0+ / 0-)

    Apparently, they've forgotten that the principles broke the law.  They were indicted and convicted.  Bush 41 pardoned them.

    May McCain stroke out in the next week.  He's gone way over the edge.

  •  so the GOP's Iraq guy, and a topless guy, and a (0+ / 0-)

    reality show housewife, and a national security stashing biographer get together somehow, and were more interested in covering their own at some point naked asses.

    If this was polled the way the press loves polls, I'm thinking more people would say Benghazi happened because zippers were down.

    cheerleaders need not apply.

    by kravitz on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 09:02:30 PM PST

  •  $190,000 - Really DeLay? (2+ / 0-)
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    helfenburg, diggerspop

    I remember that Representative from Sugarland, a suburb of Houston. We could not dislodge him and by God, he'd still be there(!) were it not for his overwhelming thirst. For money. Literally. Oh, and power. Whatever.

    Due to gerrymandering he'd still be representing. Sugarland. How embarrassing. And true.

    $200K? That former pest control poisoner was brought down on account of greed. How greedy? Dude was on top of his game: he was INFLUENTIAL in Congress, he was called The Hammer, he lived in his own world; and was finally caught by less than $200K. LMFAO.

    Can't make this up. "On November 24, 2010; DeLay was found guilty by a jury in Austin (Travis County), Texas, of conspiracy to commit money laundering and making an illegal contribution. He was subsequently sentenced to three years in prison and 10 years probation on January 10, 2011."

    Jury by your peers, asshole. I know you've re-found God, how's that working out for you, behind bars.

    "DeLay called the Terri Schiavo case "one of my proudest moments in Congress'"

    Need I say more? Because I could. :)

  •  A forthright and forthcoming government (1+ / 0-)
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    is beyond Republican comprehension.

    "Rice told us what she knew? Where's the conspiracy in that?"

    "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10

    by Bob Love on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 09:15:18 PM PST

  •  John McCain Benghazi (1+ / 0-)
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    Mitt McCain is having a hissy fit.

  •  Too bad Petraeus is closed session (0+ / 0-)

    That would be some interesting theater.

  •  The mere mention of Bush and Cheney ... (0+ / 0-)

    ... and the phrase "body language" makes me what to puke my coffee.

  •  Funny how Repubs are so certain they know (0+ / 0-)

    what to think about Benghazi before their investigations are even complete.  Kind of makes you have to think that they have already decided on the conclusion they want to reach.  So the hearings are something like show trials and have about as much credibility.

    The elevation of appearance over substance, of celebrity over character, of short term gains over lasting achievement displays a poverty of ambition. It distracts you from what's truly important. - Barack Obama

    by helfenburg on Fri Nov 16, 2012 at 03:45:18 AM PST

  •  Another example of how rigged the game is. (1+ / 0-)
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    Republicans lie us into a war, torture, and take war profiteering to new heights.   The corporate Dems - look forward.    I want to know what the progressives, unions, et al plan to do about reforming the Democratic Party?   What's the plan?  

    If money is speech, then speech must be money.

    by dkmich on Fri Nov 16, 2012 at 04:40:48 AM PST

  •  Bush is fond of saying that his legacy.... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...won't be known for at least 50 years.

    I think it's pretty well baked in the cake at this point as a giant destructive sinkhole, and his place is secured at the bottom of Worst POTUS lists along with the usual suspects, Buchanan, Harding, etc.

    If the above-the-surface stuff looks this bad, just imagine how much worse it's going to look when the stuff they swept under the carpet sees the light of day, as it eventually will.

    Great summary.  Thanks for wading through the muck.


  •  The fact of the matter is (0+ / 0-)

    It's clear the GOP strategy for the next 4 years is to double down on fanning their outrage over every thing done by this administration.
    What it gets them media attention and headlines and creates the mainstream narrative that we citizens wake up to on a daily basis. That is all they care about.

    Its part of the create their own reality...and that is exactly what they do..they control and drive the narrative in this country.
    The media and punditry need to call these idiots out and remind them of their history and blatant fauxrage hypocrisy!
    Great summary here.

    The Plutocratic States of America, the best government the top 1% and corporations can buy. We are the 99%-OWS.

    by emal on Fri Nov 16, 2012 at 05:30:29 AM PST

  •  Remember, Condi Rice also said about 9-11,... (0+ / 0-)
    I don't think anyone could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center
    She was National Security Adviser at the time. I remember thinking, for fuck's sake are you telling us that you don't how to do your job? This was after they tried to bomb the World Trade Center in 1992, and a plot had been broken up to hijack and down airplanes in the Pacific the year before. So, they were developing the capabilities to hijack domestic and international flights, and they had already demonstrated an interest in the WTC as a target. What happened was surely among the possibilities. 2+2=4.

    If an incompetent like her was qualified for State, so is Susan Rice who was just a administration spokesman present the currently known but incomplete picture.

  •  I'm just munching popcorn while I watch the (0+ / 0-)

    Democrats, yet again, fall into the gaping jaws of a very obvious trap. Every time they give any more than the bare minimum response to the shrieks of the human filth known as Republican congressmen/women on this issue they are feeding a beast that wants nothing more than an endless diet of talking points they can use to lie about and distort for the next 4 years on Fox News and hatriot radio. Birth Certificate. Remember? There is no amount of data, not single or mulitple points of information the administration can provide that will make them drop this bogus ball. Responding to  them is coddling them. I hope the Democrats smell this trap, but I doubt they will, and provide only the barest minimum and most essential information required throughout this nonsense investigation because if they don't they're just planting seeds for the next birther/truther movement. I will add I find it sad the Democrats will fall for this - but it's a symptom of their weakness and they absolutely have to get over it.

    Send conservatives to for re-education.

    by filthyLiberalDOTcom on Fri Nov 16, 2012 at 07:31:38 AM PST

  •  Something else they agree on (0+ / 0-)

    "If there's one thing both parties in Washington can agree on, it is the necessity..."

    ...of ignoring any discussion about the U.S. war against Libya which preceded this situation.

    Eli Stephens
    Left I on the News
    "Stand Up, Fight Back!"

    by elishastephens on Fri Nov 16, 2012 at 12:29:29 PM PST

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