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Dave Wasserman's running vote tally, the 47% edition


Changes to the Senate rules are rare, typically minor, and usually require 67 votes be implemented. But Democrats can avail themselves of a complicated, arcane procedure in January and amend the rules as they choose with an easier 50-plus-one majority.

The changes Democrats are considering wouldn’t eliminate the filibuster, and would thus preserve the Senate minority’s enormous power over legislative affairs. But the new rules, if adopted, would make it harder — possibly significantly harder — for the minority to successfully block legislation than it currently is.

So it’s no surprise that GOP leaders are characterizing the plan as a fatal assault on the Senate minority’s rights.

Huffington Post:
A Fox News interview ended rather abruptly on Monday after a guest took not one but two jabs at the network hosting him (see update below).

Co-anchor Jon Scott interviewed Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and author Thomas Ricks, who has covered the military for decades, about his new book "The Generals." Scott asked Ricks weigh in on the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi and Sen. John McCain's criticisms of Amb. Susan Rice.

Atlantic Wire:
McCain Wants to Leave Abortion Alone; Republicans Move Away from Grover
NY Times:  
President Obama’s re-election and Democratic gains in Congress were supposed to make it easier for the party to strike a deal with Republicans to resolve the year-end fiscal crisis by providing new leverage. But they could also make it harder as empowered Democrats, including some elected on liberal platforms, resist significant changes in entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare.
Frank Bruni:
Someday someone will write a dark history — a farce, really — of how [Grover Norquist] managed to bring nearly all of the Republican Party to heel, compelling legislator upon legislator to lash themselves to his no-new-taxes pledge. Until then we’ll have to content ourselves with his misfortune over the last few days. No sooner had a nation digested its turkey than his goose began to be cooked. The spreading rebellion in the Republican ranks was manifest on the post-Thanksgiving Sunday talk shows.
David Corn:
At President Barack Obama's first press conference after winning reelection, CNN's Jessica Yellin posed a saucy question: "Mr. President, on the fiscal cliff, two years ago, sir, you said that you wouldn't extend the Bush-era tax cuts, but at the end of the day, you did. So, respectfully, sir, why should the American people and the Republicans believe that you won't cave again this time?"...

But that narrative was wrong when it emerged—and it is not the key to predicting what Obama will do in the present predicament. Obama didn't wave the white flag in 2010. He turned a face-off over the Bush tax cuts into an opportunity to enact a second stimulus that he otherwise could not get past Senate Republicans. His failure at that time was not that he mustered insufficient mettle; he failed to convey to the world that he had jujitsued the GOPers.

Intrade, a website dedicated to online trades and bets, announced on Monday that it would no longer allow U.S. customers to participate in its exchange. The announcement comes following a lawsuit filed earlier today by the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which regulates the trading of futures contracts. The agency took issue with the fact that Intrade offered trading to U.S. customers on the future prices of commodities such as gold and crude oil, despite a previous agreement not to do so.
Jamelle Bouie:
How Not to Appeal to Asian Americans
Next time, a little less racism
After two disappointing election cycles, Republican leaders demanded that conservative groups end their war on electable primary candidates or risk handing the Senate to the Democrats in 2014. This week, the groups delivered their reply: “Nuts!”

Activists on the right launched a volley of criticism at the 2014’s first major Senate hopeful on Monday, Rep. Shelly Moore Capito (R-WV). Capito is considered a strong contender for the seat held by Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV), especially if he decides to retire, but her conservative detractors are demanding a purer candidate.

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  •  Hi, Greg, thanks for the roundup! (27+ / 0-)

    It's interesting that a guy who's never been elected to anything has held a majority of the Republican-dominated House to his brand of policymaking.  Red Grover, Red Grover, hope your reign is over.

    It's also interesting that Shelley Moore Capito, who would otherwise have a hammerlock on an open Senate seat in West Virginia, is being castigated by the tea party.

    Here in Virginia tea party fave Ayatollah General Cuccinelli is probably going to wrest the Rethug nomination for governor from lieutenant gov. Bolling.  If the Kook does become the Rethug nominee in 2013, he'll practically hand the governorship to Terry McAuliffe.  We lady-Virginians in Fairfax and Arlington counties don't like Rethug legislators decreeing vaginal ultrasounds for us.

    "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

    by Diana in NoVa on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 04:44:36 AM PST

    •  Interesting that you got your (6+ / 0-)

      present governor because the purity — the left purity gang could not tolerate Terry McAuliffe and got behind the dopey Mr. Deeds.

      If McAuliffe had been the nominee the Dem ticket might have been able to also elect their AG and spared to the ultimate nut case. I know so because I ultrasounded his mind.

      I'm asking you to believe. Not in my ability to bring about real change in Washington ... *I'm asking you to believe in yours.* Barack Obama

      by samddobermann on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 05:36:36 AM PST

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    •  You know what I'd like to see? (1+ / 0-)
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      A muppet of Grover Norquist.

      It should be Grover blue, of course. But Norquist has a nice round head, doughy features, and a stubbly beard, so he should make up into a nice muppet.

      He should, of course, have a little puppet of his own - or two, or three. All angry old white guys.

  •  exciting times (6+ / 0-)

    with the internet a position can be forced to change in less than 30 minutes !
     Happy Tuesday to all

  •  Purity! Purity! A wonderful word that combines (7+ / 0-)

    "Pure" and "Tea."  Lets have a Purity Party! 'Cause there's no one as Pure as ME!!

    "Let's see what fresh fuckwittery these dolts can contrive to torment themselves with this time." -- Iain Banks, The Hydrogen Sonata

    by Rikon Snow on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 04:46:25 AM PST

  •  Fair share (3+ / 0-)

    No more handouts to the rich. The Bush tax cuts for the rich must killed immediately. Our country cannot afford such welfare for the rich. The one percent must be held accountable and made to pay their fair share. This is what real Americans are demanding from this this do-nothing Congress. Incomes for the top percent of taxpayers have shot up at an obscene pace even as incomes and wages for the vast majority of Americans have fallen. Poverty is at record levels while the rich get big tax breaks on their market investment and corporate jets. Hit 'em in the pocketbook and stop forcing deficit reduction on the backs of the middle-class.    -  progressive

  •  Ricks (17+ / 0-)

    Ricks:  And second, I think that the emphasis on Benghazi has been extremely political partly because Fox was operating as a wing of the Republican party.
    •  And he was never seen on Fox News again (9+ / 0-)

      He crashed their bubble and brough cruel reality into their insular world. And he was mean and told them the truth about themselves.

      If Ricks wanted to make sure he'd never be pestered by those clowns again, mission accomplished, good sir.

    •  “I thought I was being honest" (9+ / 0-)

      The NYT has more on the story: Guest on Fox News to Discuss Benghazi Attack Is Given a Quick Exit.

      After the interview, a Fox News staffer told Mr. Ricks that he had been rude.

      The strange and unusually short interview segment quickly gained the attention of media critics, because criticism of Fox News is rarely aired on Fox News. Mr. Ricks said in an e-mail message afterward that he did not think he was being rude. “I thought I was being honest,” he said. “They asked my opinion, and I gave it.”


      Mr. Ricks said in his e-mail that “I think the segment was about half as long as planned.” In the pre-interview with the producer in charge of the segment, Mr. Ricks expressed his point of view that the Benghazi controversy had been over-covered, “so they shouldn’t have been surprised when they pushed back on that, and I defended my position,” he said.

      The producer, whom Mr. Ricks did not name, told him beforehand that he’d also have a chance to talk about the lack of combat readiness of some Army units, a subject he wrote a blog post about last Friday. “But they seemed to lose interest in that,” he said.

      Mr. Ricks added, “One reason I spoke the way I did is that the hero of my new book is George Marshall, the Army chief of staff during World War II. He got his position by speaking truth to power, and I try to follow that example.”

      It is possible to read the history of this country as one long struggle to extend the liberties established in our Constitution to everyone in America. - Molly Ivins

      by se portland on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 05:47:52 AM PST

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  •  I am fascinated by (10+ / 0-)

    this Grover Norquist person. Who gives him the money to back primary challenges? Is the funding of 'GroverPac' public information? I've seen him interviewed and he's not that bright - how did he get so much power? His pledge thingy sounds to me like a high school civics project that got out of control.

    I'm pretty tired of being told what I care about.

    by hulibow on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 04:58:25 AM PST

    •  Norquist's backed by lots of GOP interest groups (9+ / 0-)

      Big money interestst especially. Think of him as a front man for the rich assholes like the Koch brothers who provide so much of the GOP's financial support. And no, he's not very bright. He's just a thug who acts as legbreaker for the real brains.

      Interesting story about Grover; he was apparently indoctrinated into his rabid anti-tax stances by his wealthy dad. Whenever he took little Grover out for ice cream, he would first take bites out of his cone, puncuating each bite with "sale tax," "estate tax," "income tax" and so on, before giving the cone to his son. If that's a true story, yikes.

    •  He's a very canny lobbyist (8+ / 0-)

      who presents himself as a citizen activist looking out for the common (rich) man. A corrupt and vastly overpaid shill posing as a libertarian idealist. Kind of a Ron Paul for richer and older people who are only pretending to care about ideology. As for who pays him, I don't know if it's disclosed, but I'm pretty sure it's the same people who fund phony front groups and "think tanks" like AEI, Cato, AFP and ATR. E.g. the Kochs, Bradleys, Olins, Scaife, Pickins, Waltons, etc.

      I.e. rich sociopathic bastards.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 05:11:53 AM PST

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    •  The Waltons and 5 other (4+ / 0-)

      mega families with incredible fortunes. They really really want to kill the estate taxes.

      I'm asking you to believe. Not in my ability to bring about real change in Washington ... *I'm asking you to believe in yours.* Barack Obama

      by samddobermann on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 05:39:56 AM PST

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    •  Rather than merely call Norquist a tax-cut (3+ / 0-)
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      hulibow, skohayes, Laconic Lib

      lobbyist, why not point out that trying to drown a government is treasonous.

      My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub.

      The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure that it is right. -- Judge Learned Hand, May 21, 1944

      by ybruti on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 06:02:33 AM PST

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    •  I think you are at least partially correct... (0+ / 0-)

      AIUI he thought it up at the age of 13 or 14. Not sure if it was a civics project or not.

      "I'm totally pro-choice in the matter of abortion. But of course I'm also so radically pro-life that I think every person from birth onward must have full and affordable access to healthcare." - Gail Collins

      by gritsngumbo on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 07:21:39 AM PST

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    •  I am also interested in Grover, (2+ / 0-)
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      Stude Dude, Laconic Lib

      who is also a board member of the NRA and was almost a casualty of the Abramoff scandal...things diligently overlooked by the media.

      I'd like to know what kind of paycheck he's drawing from his scam.

  •  I reject the premise of this very stupid (10+ / 0-)

    and misleading NYT article:

    President Obama’s re-election and Democratic gains in Congress were supposed to make it easier for the party to strike a deal with Republicans to resolve the year-end fiscal crisis by providing new leverage. But they could also make it harder as empowered Democrats, including some elected on liberal platforms, resist significant changes in entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare.
    I'd be hard pressed to find a "mainstream media" article more chock full of CW beltway memes about how Dems are too partisan and unyielding and the real source of the "fiscal cliff" impasse, with their annoying and unserious refusal to budge on entitlements and not be so mean about taxing the rich. Nothing in this article about how Repubs are being their usual dickish selves about tax rates and defense spending. The whole article could just as well have been penned in 1994 and published in the Weekly Standard, ghostwritten by Grover Norquist. It's a dishonest and condescending opinion piece posing as journalism.

    Tax the rich, negotiate with drug companies, pay less to providers and facilities, stimulate the economy, cut defense spending, end corporate subsidies, and there IS no deficit problem anymore. Period. STOP LYING to protect your class.

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 05:07:29 AM PST

    •  No one, including the Republicans (2+ / 0-)
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      mmacdDE, ratcityreprobate

      talked about making changes to Social Security. Even the Romney/Ryan ticket barely mentioned Social Security, because it doesn't add to the deficit (and if they'd stop stealing money from it, it wouldn't add to our debt!).
      I am sick of the Village hand waving about how we must cut "entitlements" in order to grow the economy.

      “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

      by skohayes on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 06:45:56 AM PST

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      •  They never said it during the campaign (2+ / 0-)
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        Laconic Lib, skohayes

        when it was politically dangerous to do so. But they've certainly been saying it since then, and were saying it before. It's been at the top of the GOP agenda since the 1930's, with not a few Dems on board.

        "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

        by kovie on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 07:56:28 AM PST

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  •  Thanks so much, Greg. (7+ / 0-)

    Great round up. Really appreciate Corn's piece. He's spot on as usual.

    "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." Hubert H. Humphrey

    by Onomastic on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 05:08:47 AM PST

  •  re: NYT article (1+ / 0-)
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    White House officials said the [Health Care]  law should be given a chance to work before its budget is cut.
    As the law becomes more entrenched, will the Supremes be more reluctant to revisit it?

    Have you hugged your Boeuf Bourguignon today?

    by wretchedhive on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 05:10:24 AM PST

    •  Obamacare contains a 3.5% Medicare tax on the (1+ / 0-)
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      Laconic Lib

      rich which will be abolished by going over the so-called fiscal cliff.  This is one of the linchpins that holds the financing of the ACA together and one of the reasons the CBO concluded that the law will actually reduce, not raise, the deficit.  The 3.5% tax will then have to be negotiated with the House in a separate bill - not likely to pass.  I can hear the GOP arguments now....

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 07:30:43 AM PST

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  •  I smell cat food. (1+ / 0-)
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    Laconic Lib

    Truly, I do. After that Plouffe comment which echoes Lindsay Graham about "reforming entitlements", I have a doom.

    Freakin republicans lost. Sure doesn't sound like it. Who thought that the "extreme left" is about maintaining medicare and growing the economy?

    Up is down, night is day.......

    •  Take a deep breath (1+ / 0-)
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      Let it our slowly.  Repeat.

    •  Before jumping off the cliff, (2+ / 0-)
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      mmacdDE, askew

      Why not wait and see what happens? You realize that Obama already cut almost $800 billion from Medicare without touching benefits, right?
      Reforming doesn't always mean cutting benefits.

      “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

      by skohayes on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 06:47:40 AM PST

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      •  We shall see. (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Laconic Lib

        I am not liking the undertone.

      •  Bernie's FP posting: (2+ / 0-)
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        One Opinion, Laconic Lib
        Today's news from Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.):

        Sanders: ‘I Get Nervous’: As Congress returned Monday, empowered Democrats were resisting significant changes in programs like Social Security and Medicare as part of a deal to resolve a year-end fiscal crisis. “I get very nervous when I hear the president and others continue to talk about ‘entitlement reform,’ which I’m afraid is just another word for cuts in Medicare and Medicaid, maybe even Social Security, Sen. Bernie Sanders told Elliot Spitzer on Current TV. “I get nervous that instead of bringing back the old Clinton-era tax rates for the wealthiest people — 39.6 [percent] — there may be a way to wiggle out of that.”

        A ‘Raw Deal’: The White House is laying the groundwork for what could be “a raw deal for the middle class,” Ed Schultz said on MSNBC. Obama senior adviser David Plouffe said the deal will blend tax reform and entitlement reform. Sen. Sanders said Plouffe’s remark “concerns me deeply.” Americans do not want to cut Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid benefits, Sanders said, and overwhelming majorities favor making the wealthiest people and the largest corporations help tame the deficit. Citing the latest poll, Schultz concluded that “the public agrees with Sen. Sanders.”

        No New Year’s Cataclysm: If some Democrats had their way, the country wouldn’t be facing the “fiscal cliff” but a “fiscal slope,” “fiscal curve” or even an “austerity crisis.” If there’s no deal by Dec. 31, Obama still has authority to stall in implementing the big tax and spending changes. “This is not like the debt ceiling debate where in fact, if you don’t pay your bills on a certain date, there are very dramatic repercussions,” Sen. Sanders told Politico. “The truth of the matter is we could go into the next year, and if we can reach an agreement in the new Congress, in the first weeks or months or two, I don’t think a whole lot of people will know the difference. So it’s not like something cataclysmic happens on Dec. 31.”

        Social Security: A 2 percent payroll tax cut trumpeted by lawmakers as a way to lift the sagging economy will expire on Dec. 31. Policymakers don't seem too upset. Sen. Sanders, a vocal advocate of social insurance programs, on Monday told The Huffington Post that he is “strongly opposed” to extending the tax holiday since doing so could damage Social Security's solvency. “The middle class deserves tax relief, but not at the expense of Social Security,” Sanders said.

  •  Kinda puts a smile on my face (4+ / 0-)

    that the Teabag wing of the Republican Party is fighting hard against the "moderates." Keep running those wack job candidates and Dems will keep winning. Go Baggers, go!

    Victory is sweet-November 6, 2012

    by al23 on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 05:18:31 AM PST

  •  Conservative response? (1+ / 0-)
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    Readers interested in how conservatives are thinking about the elections may find some interest in RedRacingHorses, which tends to be much more thoughtful and analytic than those other conservative sites.  It's somewhat closer to DailyKos in this respect.

    In any event, it has occasionally been posting conservative-perspective analyses of the election in particular some making the point that the occasions on which the Republicans ran establishment candidates rather than real conservatives also bombed a few times, as witness our new Senator from North Dakota.

    Your mileage on some of their thinking will definitely vary.

    Mind you, now that I have posted this, they will undoubtedly have a series of raving loonie posts to disprove my suggestion that they are worth noting.

    We can have change for the better.

    by phillies on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 05:47:02 AM PST

  •  Asians and Latinos are a natural fit for a (2+ / 0-)
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    Greg Dworkin, Laconic Lib

    conservative party that values liberty, enterprise, and family.
    Not all of them, of course, because both groups are themselves diverse. (I make that point even though, based onthe way progressives like to sling "old white men", the idea of diversity within demographic groups is probably alien to  you guys)

    Once upon a time, that would have been Republicans.

    Now, it's nobody.

    Republicans still mouth the words, but they also do and say some hideous things, some incredibly stupid things.

    It doesn't occur to them, for example, that people who care about family might also care about their children and grandchildren -- and the world in which they will grow up.

    It doesn't occur to them, for example, that people who care about family might care about their children -- and the ability to get their health problems cared for without destroying the family's ability to care for them in other respects and to save for their education.

    And so on and so forth.

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 05:52:11 AM PST

    •  they and you should read (3+ / 0-)
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      dinotrac, skohayes, Egalitare

      EJ Do=ionne's book, about the tension between individualism and community (Our Divided Political Heart).

      IMHO, the GOP went off the rails by forgetting the communitarian part, which not so loing ago was ingrained. See Nixon (EPA, wage and price controls), see reagan (raised taxes and worked with Tip ONeill on SS).

      You gotta do what you gotta do except this GOP doesn't.

      Too bad your sometimes blind rejection of Obama isn't based on reality. But forget that, have you seen Lincoln?

      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

      by Greg Dworkin on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 06:02:42 AM PST

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  •  A fiscal cliff deal could potentiall put the house (1+ / 0-)
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    in play in 2014. To get a deal done, Boehner is going to have to get a fairly sizeable chunk of his caucus to go along with the deal. And there will be a deal. The only thing more politically damaging to the republicans than letting the country go off the cliff would be pushing the American people off the cliff to save Mitt Romney 2% on his taxes. When push comes to shove, they will cut a deal to avoid electoral armageddon. But in order to do that, Boehner is going to have to get a bunch of his people to agree to hold hands and vote for the deal knowing full well that it will bring the wrath of the Kochs et al down on them coming 2014. A batch of fresh archconservative ideologues coming off of bruising primaries could present an interesting situation for us to make a play for house seats that right now are not seen as competitive.

  •  On the promo for Daily Rundown today, Gov. Bob (2+ / 0-)
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    skohayes, ratcityreprobate

    (vaginal probe) McDonnell of VA (aka Gov. Vaginal Probe) (aka Gov. Republican Rape) was going to be on with a pitch for the gop "changing their message".

    He is the king of the etch-a-sketch. He was the first of the neo-confederate religious right ideologues to downplay their zeal for JAYzuss! and run as a "fiscal conservative".

    Obviously he's trying to get in on the 2016 gop Presidential Nomination Gravy Train (2016 gopper-nom graytray).

    He needs to be "early-defined" very early by the Dems before he can effectively bury his true intentions.

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 06:35:17 AM PST

  •  Dear NYT (1+ / 0-)
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    You have a misprint:

    ...they could also make it harder as empowered Democrats, including some elected on liberal platforms, resist significant changes in entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare.
    Social Security and Medicare aren't entitlements. We bought those and they are obligations. They aren't government spending and don't impact the deficit. They are transfer payments and they are part of the minimum wage system.

    What is it about economics you don't understand?

    Oh, that's right. All of it.

  •  I don't think there will be a fiscal cliff deal to (0+ / 0-)

    reduce spending.  The taxes will go up, and then the parties will agree to restore defense cuts and Bush tax rates for middle income tax brackets.  There won't be additional massive cuts.

    The Dems have pushed the GOP away from Social Security and also raising the medicare retirement age.  That leaves cutting reimbursements to providers and also means testing as the ways to get major savings in medicare.  The GOP will never provide the votes for those adjustments because they would lose the support of their over 65 base.  Without those cuts there is no grand bargain because Democrats will not allow education, science/research, infrastructure spending to shoulder the load of cuts.  

    The result will be to let the tax increases, job growth and Obamacare take care of the budget problems (actually a good solution).

    Alternative rock with something to say:

    by khyber900 on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 08:00:52 AM PST

  •  Read the David Corn piece (0+ / 0-)

    Not only does it tell the true story of the showdown between Obama and Boehner (spoiler: Obama didn't cave), it has one of the best tag lines I've read ever.

    It is better to light one candle than to curse the darkness - Eleanor Roosevelt

    by Fish in Illinois on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 08:44:05 AM PST

  •  Yes and no (1+ / 0-)
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    Laconic Lib
    Obama didn't wave the white flag in 2010. He turned a face-off over the Bush tax cuts into an opportunity to enact a second stimulus that he otherwise could not get past Senate Republicans. His failure at that time was not that he mustered insufficient mettle; he failed to convey to the world that he had jujitsued the GOPers.
    He played the hand he had, but it was nothing to celebrate about.  I hated and still hate the "payroll tax holiday" as a method of stimulus.   DEEPLY unwise, in my view, to undermine the legitimacy of the one entitlement to which we really ARE fundamentally entitled.   Not paying the premiums on our own social security is a sure-fire way to end its inviolability.  

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 09:18:04 AM PST

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