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Syria completely cut off Internet access today...if you are in contact with someone over there, pass along these dial-up lines. Dial up Internet may still work with these providers:

- French free isp FDN (about 100 lines): +33172890150 (login/pass: toto/toto)
- German free (about 35 lines). +4923184048 (login/pass: telecomix/telecomix)
- Swedish isp Gotanet (about 30 lines atm, can expand services) :+46708671911 (login/pass: toto/toto)

Assad strikes while world attention is focused on Palestine bid at the UN.

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After seeing how well attempting to shutdown the Internet worked for Mubarak in Egypt and Qaddafi in Libya, the Assad regime has mostly left the Internet alone.

Today, Syria went off-line to a completely unprecedented degree amidst reports of massive killing of those opposed to the Assad regime in Damascus.

Earlier this week, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the death toll in the Syria conflict had reached the 40,000 mark, so this is a very bad sign.

From Slate we have this report today:

The research firm Renesys reported this morning that Syria’s international Internet connection effectively shut down starting at 12:26 p.m. local time (5:26 a.m. eastern time) Thursday. The firm earlier estimated that 92 percent of all routed networks in the country were offline. Its latest report, however, says that “all 84 of Syria's IP address blocks have become unreachable, effectively removing the country from the Internet.” The AP is reporting that a second U.S.-based Internet-monitoring firm, Akamai, also shows Syria entirely offline.

Meanwhile, scattered reports via Twitter suggest that some of the country’s landline and cell phone connections may also be experiencing problems, though that has not been confirmed. An AP report earlier this morning cited anti-government activists blaming the government for the shutdown. It noted that “the government has previously cut phone lines and Internet access in areas where regime forces are conducting major military operations.” But a total shutdown is unprecedented.

The Syrian Local Coordinating Committees has issued the following statement:
"Local Coordination Committees in Syria

In a move which raises fears that the regime is preparing for something, the criminal Syrian regime cut all communications (cellular networks, landlines and the internet service) in most areas of Damascus, which is the capital, and in its suburbs. In addition, communications were cut in most areas in the governorates of Hama, Homs, Daraa; in all areas in the  governorates of Tartous and Swaida; and in some cities in Deir Ezzor and Raqqa.

The Coordinating Committees hold the regime responsible for any massacres that would be committed in any Syrian cities after such a move was made. Also, they call upon the world to move quickly and to take practical steps to protect civilians from the regime's crimes."

The Syria government is saying the Internet was brought down by terrorist. We know that much is true because only Assad regime has that power.

Anonymous is in this fight too:

Helo attack in Damascus. One of the few images to emerge today
From yesterday while they still had Internet. So what do you think is happening today.

Can't get the sounds of him screaming out of my head. Little boy wounded in Aleppo. Syria

3:07 PM PT:

Message placed by Anonymous on hacked Syria Embassy website in English and Arabic. I have copied only the English here:

The Cartoon Syrian Army website has been hacked in response to the cyber bullying they're practicing supported by the governmental Syrian Computer Society and in the light of this defacement I'd like to address the world with few words

To our heros in the Free Syrian Army.. our hearts and souls are with you those of whom sacrificed their blood and lives for us, may Allah reward you all the good and I find no words enough to address you may Allah protect and be with you

To Bashar 'the duck' who lacks legitimacy and sanity do you see fathers crying their children? soon you will be in their shoes if Allah's will

To Asmaa, crazy president's wife. Do you see women crying their husbands? soon you will be in their shoes if Allah's will

To the islamic and arabic conscience and specially Muslims kings and presidents, our profit (pbuh) says « ما من امرئ يخذل امرءا مسلما في موطن تنتهك فيه حرمته ، وينتقص فيه من عرضه ، إلا خذله الله في موطن يحب فيه نصرته ، وما من امرئ ينصر امرءا مسلما في موطن ينتقص فيه من عرضه وتنتهك فيه من حرمته ، إلا نصره الله في موطن يحب فيه نصرته » so those who let us down expect Allah's humilation if you don't support us

To United States and Europian countries, you claim that you protect the world, help the oppressed and claim democracy. But our revolution exposed your real faces and showed humanity that you are advocates of your own interests and that you don't have a humanitarian principle in what you claim, you only raise those banners to occupy nations, inslave their people and steal their treasures just like you did in Iraq and Afghanistan and other places, and maybe soon in Mali

To the neutrals in Syria: most of the Syrian neutrals are non-Mulims like our christian brothers and druze brothers and others from other communities, my message to them, Aren't we brothers? Aren't we fighting for our joint dignity and to make a better Syria for tomorrow and the most beautiful country in the world? Aren't you suffering oppression just like us? or your saying to your selves that if those win then we'll get our freedom without sweating for it? I ask not to share the revolution gain with any party that didn't come to its aid and stood aside, otherwise join the freedom and dignity's revolution

To the Alawite community: to the grandsons of Saleh Al-Ali, Bashar is abusing you, killing you and us just to save his precious occupied place, did Bashar claimed you kings in Syria? Are you living a better lives than us? The answer is clear, maybe you live worse than millions of Syrians, you are our brothers (except for the thugs and murderers among you) please abandon the regime now and join the revolution before it's too late and believe me if you don't join the revolution you will lose alot because you have crossed all the humanitarian and religious red lines against the Syrian people

 - Syrian Anonymous

I remember Anonymous had Tunisian Anons two years ago when this whole thing kicked off.

The Internet Society has issued the following statement:

The Internet Society on Syria’s Internet Shutdown

29 November 2012

On behalf of Lynn St. Amour, President and CEO, and the Internet Society Board of Trustees:

Emerging reports from various organizations and individuals indicate that international Internet connectivity was shut off in Syria today. The Internet is an open, global medium for communication, idea exchange, empowerment, and innovation. Access to the global Internet is a crucial enabler of human rights.

As with previous actions to block Internet traffic in Egypt and Libya,  the effect of cutting off Internet traffic – ceasing the flow of information in and out of the country – is a serious action.  It harms not only the citizens of Syria, but also Syria's economy and society at large.  The Internet Society stands with other organizations around the world in calling for Internet access to be restored with all due speed and cooperation so that vital services can continue to function and citizens won’t be further impacted.

First and foremost, the Internet Society joins with the rest of the world in its utmost concern about the safety and security of the Syrian people.  Previous cases where such actions were deliberately taken have proven not only to be harmful, but to be ineffective. The Internet Society hopes that the volatile situation in Syria will come to a peaceful solution and that the citizens of Syria will soon be able to join the rest of the world in having their voices heard online.

Renesys Blog reports that only 5 networks on the Syrian link remain alive and that,
These five offshore survivors include the webservers that were implicated in the delivery of malware targeting Syrian activists in May of this year.

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  •  This would seem to be a sign of desperation (5+ / 0-)

    But it may be a sign that a final cleansing of Assad's foes is taking place in the capital.

    Either way, things may be over soon.

    Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

    by blue aardvark on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 11:33:12 AM PST

    •  I said to everyone 6 months ago that this was (5+ / 0-)

      going to be a long, protracted, and particularly bloody civil war once Assad started to use more fast movers instead of tanks and helos which require long supply chains.

      It was an obvious sign from a military aspect that Assad was recognizing the length and breadth of the war and was conserving resources as much as possible.

      I would project that at current rates, we'll see conflict for at least another 4 months. Despite the opposition forces getting access to heavier and heavier equipment, they lack the same supply logistics that Assad does.

      I mean its nice and all to hear that they captured a tank, but without fuel, maintenance, munitions, and the training capability to use it, its just a hunk of metal and a giant target at that.

      I will say this though, Assad's military is either brilliantly stupid or stupidly brilliant if they think this is going to work.

      --Enlighten the people, generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like spirits at the dawn of day. - Thomas Jefferson--

      by idbecrazyif on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 11:50:46 AM PST

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    •  Only if Assad loses (0+ / 0-)

      You sound like you favor this "final cleansing." But it won't be like that. If the freedom fighters lose, Assad will be "cleansing" for a while.

      Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

      by Clay Claiborne on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 12:39:28 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  In no way do I support anyone being (0+ / 0-)

        "cleansed" by anyone else, ever.

        I'm just trying to read the signs like everyone else. Are they closing the Internet because they are losing, or because they are trying to win by doing something unspeakably vile?

        Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

        by blue aardvark on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 12:43:26 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  Why can't it be both? (2+ / 0-)

          I'm not trying to read the signs. I'm trying to alert the world. Assad's foes are the Syrian people.

          "Assad's foes" are those little girls that keeping getting their heads blown off.

          "Assad's foes" are anyone of any age that he can slaughter so as to terrorize an entire population into giving up this bid for freedom from his state terror.

          It is clear to anyone looking at this objectively that the overwhelming majority of Syrians want Assad out and that he should be unavailable for leadership in any case because in a civilized world, he has already committed such crimes that he should be behind bars for the rest of his life.

          Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

          by Clay Claiborne on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 01:17:54 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

  •  Oh crap, this will not be good. (3+ / 0-)

    To me progress is not so much a goal as it is a process and I believe it will not follow a straight course. Remember, the drops of water that form the river may not take the shortest path but they will still reach the ocean.

    by ontheleftcoast on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 11:34:53 AM PST

  •  So Anonymous cyber-attacks Israel over... (0+ / 0-)

    ... the threat of shutting down the internet in Gaza (which Israel didn't do), and they ignore Assad and his country's network until he pulls a stunt like this.  Who knows, maybe Anonymous could have saved lives in Syria if they had focused their energies against they guy killing >40,000 of his own people.

    I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

    by Hey338Too on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 11:40:37 AM PST

    •  To Anonymous's enormous credit (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      cotterperson, mahakali overdrive

      They've been at the forefront of going after the networks of these repressive dictators, including Assad and Gaddafi.  They timed an operation against Gaddafi to coincide with the first official day of the Revolution, Feb 17 2011.

      More recently and famously they hacked into Assad's personal e-mail.

      Follow Me on Twitter!!/ZeddRebel

      by TarantinoDork on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 12:00:00 PM PST

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      •  18 January 2011 (0+ / 0-)

        January 18, 2011 I reported on OpLibya here at the Daily Kos, a month before February 17th.

        They opened recruiting for OpTunisia on 2 Jan 2011. They have been ahead of everybody in responding to the Arab Spring.

        Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

        by Clay Claiborne on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 01:29:05 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

      •  More on Anonymous efforts in Syria (1+ / 0-)
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        From piece on Russian Helicopter delivery to Syria:

        In late October, Syria asked Iraqi authorities to grant air access for a cargo plane transporting refurbished attack helicopters from Russia, according to flight records obtained by ProPublica. With Turkish and European airspace off limits to Syrian arms shipments, the regime of Bashar al-Assad needs Iraq’s air corridor to get the helicopters home, where the government is struggling to suppress an uprising.

        Iraq regained control of its airspace from the U.S. military just a year ago and has been under intense diplomatic pressure from the United States to isolate the Syrian regime. Turkey says it has closed its airspace to Syrian flights, and if Iraq did so, Syria would be virtually cut off from transporting military equipment by plane. European Union sanctions have already constricted arms transport by sea and air.

        But it is unclear whether Iraq permitted the fly-overs described in the documents. The Syrian cargo plane scheduled to pick up the helicopters did not land or take off from Moscow at the appointed times this month, suggesting that those flights did not happen.

        Some of the flight request documents have been posted by hackers associated with the online collective Anonymous and formed the basis of a Time story Thursday. Other documents were obtained separately by ProPublica, which reported Monday that Syria appears to have flown 240 tons of bank notes from Moscow this summer. The authenticity of the documents in either cache could not be independently verified.

        Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

        by Clay Claiborne on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 04:50:41 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  Anonymous has been in this fight from the get. (0+ / 0-)

      AND TODAY....

      Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

      by Clay Claiborne on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 12:51:36 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Video of injured chile (3+ / 0-)
    Can't get the sounds of him screaming out of my head. Little boy wounded in Aleppo. Syria
    I can't get the sound out of my head either...

    Our Dime: Understanding the Federal Budget

    by Dustin Mineau on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 11:52:27 AM PST

    •  Thats why it is horrible (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Claudius Bombarnac, corvo

      when civilians are used as human shields.   As horrible as the Assad regime is to do this, the rebels are not any better.   They go in civilian areas to fight, knowing well that this will result in civilian casualties.  Not to mention the suicide bombings by the "rebels" that have also resulted in mass casualties.

      Both sides in that civil war are horrible.  

  •  Rebels had made gains against Assad's Airpower (3+ / 0-)

    Over the weekend they raided a base, destroying at least two and as many as five helicopters on the ground.  While this week in Idlib they shot down at least one helicopter and at least one Mig-23.  Which means Assad has lost at least 4-7 aircraft since Friday.

    The last two successes courtesy of the rebels seizing new anti-air weapons...SA-14 Iglas (much more reliable than rusty SA-7 Strelas.)  They're the first confirmed downings by heatseeker missiles.  Also saw video of the seizure of several Shilka air defense tanks which properly used would be devastating to low-flying helicopters and even effective against Migs.

    Also saw video today of a tank clearly being hit by a guided anti-tank missile.

    The Syrian opposition finally gaining some political coherence has paved the way for the international community to do more to help the true revolutionaries on the ground.  NATO may as early as next week announce that US-manned Patriot batteries will be deployed on the Turkish border with Syria, which some hope will have effect of creating a 'de facto NFZ' in the North where the opposition holds considerable sway.

    Follow Me on Twitter!!/ZeddRebel

    by TarantinoDork on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 12:10:43 PM PST

  •  According the the AP (3+ / 0-)

    the United States will officially recognize the Syrian opposition as the "legitimate representatives" of the Syrian people:

    I thought this would be interesting to share.

    Republicans are far more socialist than Democrats. Just because they want to redistribute the wealth upwards does not make it any better.

    by MrAnon on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 12:31:02 PM PST

    •  Event on the ground shaping this (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:

      Obama is rushing to recognize the opposition so that he can do it before they win!

      Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

      by Clay Claiborne on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 01:46:23 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Ford "Syria needs a political solution." (1+ / 0-)
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      From your link:

      For U.S. options outside the U.N., Ford said providing weapons to rebels remained an option. But he explained why he thought it was still a bad idea.

      "Arms are not a strategy; arms are a tactic," Ford said. "A military solution is not the best way for Syria. Efforts to win this by conquering one side or the other will simply prolong the violence and actually aggravate an already terrible humanitarian situation. Syria needs a political situation."

      Ford said any discussion of arms needed to take into account the growing presence of extremists in Syria, citing the activity of the al-Qaida front Jabhat al-Nusra and recent fighting between Kurds and extremists. He said extremist activity was hampering hopes of a peaceful end to the crisis.

      "There is no sign off any kind of political deal to be worked out between the opposition groups and the regime," Ford said. "That means the fighting is going to go on."

      •  Bull Shit! (0+ / 0-)

        Syria needs a murderous regime put down ASAP.

        You might just as well talk about a negotiated settlement while Hitler was carrying out the Holocaust.

        Both you and Ford are in Assad corner, that's why you make with the crazy talk.

        If a mad dog killer walk onto a campus with guns blazing, would you actually oppose calling the police because "it would only add to the violence."

        Absolutely despicable!

        Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

        by Clay Claiborne on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 03:46:35 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  Ford is in Assad's corner? (1+ / 0-)
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          Then Obama, AIPAC and the American Enterprise Institute are also in Assad's corner. They all fully support Ford and the actions being taken in Syria.

          You really need to step back. You are too emotionally charged. Nothing you or anyone else here in DKos will have any effect whatsoever on what happens in Syria. If there is going to be a military intervention in Syria, you will hear the NYT and WaPo start to beat the war drums.

          The US military killed over 100,000 Iraqi citizens based on a lie. Do you really think the deaths of 10-20 thousand Syrian citizens killed by both factions of the Syrian conflict matters? Note: at least half the 40,000 deaths were fighters from both sides.

  •  As a network monitoring/mgmt engineer (0+ / 0-)

    formerly employed by a CDN (what Akamai is, and they're at the highest level), I can't tell you how unspeakably terrifying that graph is.  I simply can't recall anything like that in the modern internet era, not even on North Korean traffic statistical monitoring.

    That is not natural or incidental in any way shape or form, and what I mean is the multihour flatline.  Syrian internet traffic is run through a single, but redundant data center.  This was intentional and is unprecedented.  A final solution of some planning in is execution as we speak.  

    •  The regime says terrorist took down the Internet (0+ / 0-)

      That is so ridiculous that any claims of terrorist responsibility by the Damascus regime for anything should immediately be discounted.

      Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

      by Clay Claiborne on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 03:50:36 PM PST

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      •  Time will tell. You were wrong about (0+ / 0-)

        the Russians, Assad dying and a quick end to the regime based on military defections.

        If the rebels could manage to kill several top commanders of the Assad regime in one of the most defended buildings in Damascus, cutting the internet link should not be nearly as difficult.

        Don't forget, the US has supplied he rebels with 2000 communication equipment sets that don't rely on the internet.
        "Terrorists" cut Syria's Internet - minister of information

        Syria's minister of information said that "terrorists", not the state, were responsible for a countrywide Internet outage on Thursday, a pro-government TV station said.

        "It is not true that the state cut the Internet. The terrorists targeted the Internet lines, resulting in some regions being cut off," he was quoted by al-Ikhbariya as saying.

        State TV quoted the telecommunications minister as saying that engineers were working to repair what he said was a fault in the main communications and Internet cable.

        •  Like I said (0+ / 0-)

          You are Assad's mouthpiece @ Daily Kos.

          There is absolutely no reason to take anything that regime says at face value and yet you always do.

          You make it your personal mission to see that the official Assad line is published in all my diaries.

          a fault in the main communications and Internet cable.
          So, you think there was one cable? For all of Syria? Did it get un-plugged?

          But the Internet was designed to survive an atomic attack. It's not that easy to shut down. Ask Qaddafi, ask Mubarak, ask Assad in a few days!

          Oh, but cell phones and land lines went down at the same time! And Damascus airport was shutdown! No traffic in or out!

          Oh, and the 5 Syrian websites left standing are all pro-Assad.

          And almost all the tweeter traffic I have seen today out of Syria has been pro-Assad.

          Terrorists? IN A PIGS EYE!


          And here you are, repeating the regimes propaganda that its all those nasty terrorists.

          And next week, when the lights come back on and we start counting the bodies, Assad will blame that on "terrorist" too.

          And you will repeat that here.

          That is why I regard you as complicit in those killings taking place now.

          Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

          by Clay Claiborne on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 06:02:01 PM PST

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          •  Linking to Reuters, NYT, WaPo, BBC, AFP, and (0+ / 0-)

            many other MSM makes ME "Assad's mouthpiece"?

            And Damascus airport was shutdown! No traffic in or out!
            Pitched battles on near Damascus airport; Internet, mobiles goes kaput
            In an operation optimistically titled 'Dawn on the Horizon', rebels fought pitched battles with regime troops about three miles from the airport, capturing roads and briefly blocking the main airport road, activists said. "They [rebels] have been inching closer to the airport for the last few days," said Louay Sakka, the vice-chairman of the Syrian Support Group, who said he was in direct contact with some of the fighting brigades.

            The fighting forced commercial airlines, including EgyptAir and Emirates to cancel flights to Damascus, citing the "deteriorating situation" around the airport.

             And here you are, repeating the regimes propaganda that its all those nasty terrorists.
            US weighs whether to arm Syrian rebels
            Military solution not considered best path
            In her remarks on Thursday, Clinton said that while it "appears as though the opposition in Syria is now capable of holding ground," the entire country was still not close to a "tipping point" away from Assad.
            And while efforts to strengthen the Syrian opposition continue, the continued presence of extremists exploiting the situation is still a major concern for the United States.

            Extremists "are absolutely there, and I think frankly their presence is growing stronger," Ford said, adding that included a front operating for al Qaeda. "We have certainly raised in our discussions with other countries the importance of isolating extremists and not helping them. Those are the conversations that continue."

            That is why I regard you as complicit in those killings taking place now.
            There is absolutely nothing I (or you) can say or do to stop the civil war and the atrocities from both sides at this time. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

            BTW, the problem is not toppling Assad. The real problem will be dealing with the aftermath.

            •  Then we certianly should be in any hurry to topple (0+ / 0-)

              Assad. Let his killing spree continue because it could get worst.

              Is that your message?

              Finally I'm beginning to understand your role, it is spreading FUD [fear, uncertainty and doubt] in support of the Syria regime.

              It's an old technique and very useful.

              Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

              by Clay Claiborne on Fri Nov 30, 2012 at 10:09:14 AM PST

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              •  You need to convince the Obama administration (0+ / 0-)

                to do something to topple Assad rather than waiting it out. Are you prepared to send in 10's of thousands of NATO troops to stop sectarian fighting after the regime's fall? I think Obama is hoping to get rid of Assad but keep the regime intact to a certain extent.

                Is the following FUD? Remember, the WaPo reports tend to repeat what the Administration wants the world to know. Most of the western media are now talking about the increase of Takfirist jihadists in the ranks of the FSA and the dangers Syria will face when Assad is toppled. They are also reporting on the atrocities committed by both sides.

                Is this reporting to now be censored in DKos? People here need to hear both sides of the story. To tell only one side is a form of propaganda.


                War rips apart families, neighbors in Syria as political, sectarian loyalties take over
                November 30, 10:10 AM

                BEIRUT — BEIRUT — It’s at night that worries over her children hit the matriarch of the Khayyat family hardest, tormenting her as she tries to sleep.

                Four of her sons have joined the tens of thousands of rebels fighting to topple President Bashar Assad. The fifth is a sergeant in Assad’s army, a draftee. Worsening her troubles, her own brother no longer speaks to her because of her sons in the rebellion.

                “This is what it has come to in Syria,” said the 60-year-old Sunni Muslim woman as she sat in the family home on the outskirts of Damascus. “This is my son, and the other is my son, but each is fighting on a different side in this war. It burns my heart.”
                The war has riven Syria along sectarian lines. The Sunni majority forms the backbone of the revolt. The minority Alawite sect, an offshoot of Shiism, backs the regime of Assad, who is himself an Alawite and has stacked his leadership with members of the community. Other minorities like Christians largely support Assad or stand on the sidelines, worried that Assad’s fall would bring a more Islamist rule over them.

                But behind the broad outlines, even families within the same community have been wrenched apart.
                The violence, which activists say has killed more than 40,000 people since March 2011, has unleashed animosity and sectarian hatreds that many say they didn’t even know existed. Tit-for-tat killings between sects have swelled, as has segregation as Sunnis and Alawites flee each other. On social media web sites, venomous accusations and insults fly between regime opponents and Assad loyalists, who they often deride as “Minhibakjis” — Arabic for “we love you.” A third group of Syrians is opposed to both camps.

                “Syrian society has been deeply fragmented along multiple lines which may take generations to repair,” said Randa Kassis, a Syrian anthropologist opposed to Assad’s regime. “Anyone of a different opinion is immediately being cast as an agent or a stooge.”

                Envoy warns that Syria will become a failed state unless there is a political solution to war
                Associated Press November 30, 2012

                The international envoy for Syria is warning that the Mideast nation will become a failed state unless there is a negotiated political solution to its 19-month conflict.

                Lakhdar Brahimi, the joint U.N.-Arab League envoy, told the U.N. General Assembly on Friday that after speaking to the government and opposition and visiting Syria's neighbours he believes the only body that can put together a peace plan is the U.N. Security Council.

        •  I wasn't wrong about Russia (0+ / 0-)

          From Time World today:

          Is Russia Running a Secret Supply Route to Arm Syria’s Assad?

          One day before the clip appeared, hackers from the group Anonymous leaked what they claim is a cache of documents stolen from the Syrian Foreign Ministry. As first reported by the non-profit investigative news organization, ProPublica, one set appears to detail shipments from Moscow to Damascus of 240 tons of newly printed Syrian money, which the Russian government has publicly acknowledged printing for the Assad regime. Another document looks to be a flight plan for four shipments of refurbished helicopters, also going from Moscow to Syria. The shipments, whose cargo the document lists in English as “old copter after overhauling,” include one delivery on Nov. 21, a second one on Nov. 28, and two more planned for the first week of December. According to the document, the payment for these shipments was made “in cash,” and their circuitous route through the skies above Iran, Iraq and Azerbaijan would circumvent the airspace of all the countries that have imposed a weapons embargo on Syria.

          “It’s getting to Syria by the back door,” says Hugh Griffiths, an arms trafficking expert at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), which operates an air-trafficking surveillance project on behalf of the European Union. Griffiths, who says the leaked flight plan appears to be genuine, sees it as the latest step in Russia’s effort to repair and then deliver Assad’s fixed-up helicopters by any means necessary. This effort has already come up against some major hurdles, with the U.S., the E.U. and Turkey making extensive efforts to stop such deliveries from crossing their airspace or territorial waters.

          In June, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton criticized Russia for shipping attack helicopters to Syria; a week later, after British officials joined her calls for the shipments to stop, the Russian ship that was making the delivery—the Alaed—was forced to turn back after its British insurance company pulled its coverage. The Alaed reportedly made another attempt to fulfill the shipment in July, this time in the company of a flotilla of Russian warships. Senior U.S. officials have repeatedly warned Russian counterparts over the pattern of their arm sales to the Syrian regime.

          According to the documents leaked by Anonymous, Russia has since begun transporting Syria’s patched-up helicopters by air. TIME emailed copies of the documents to the spokesman of Russia’s state arms dealer, Rosoboronexport, who declined to comment on them. But the company has previously said that it is repairing helicopter gunships for Syria under an old contract, which it says it is legally obligated to carry out regardless of the sanctions imposed by the U.S., E.U. and various Arab states. “None of these events will influence our relationships with our traditional markets in any way,” the head of Rosoboronexport, Anatoly Isaykin, told TIME in June.

          Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

          by Clay Claiborne on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 08:52:16 PM PST

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      •  Well, that's what's weird (0+ / 0-)

        Even in the Kim Jong-il -> Kim Jong un transition in North Korea (the last time I remember something like this being monitored) the Internet traffic to South Korea and China only dipped by about 40% as the Internet cafes got cut off.  Now, the difference is that a good (but not exclusive) part of the international transit traffic going out of DPRK is government-originated.  But that's what makes this weird.

        Going to get net-techy on you for a sec.

        I don't have an adequate or publishable link to it (I'm getting this from, but there are like six submarine AS transit points in Syria, all of which aggregate to a layer 3 data complex on the western side of the country.  There may be a smattering of commercial traffic through a direct Tata-administered link (tunneled to offshore links) that lands just east of Cyprus (mostly dedicated  business traffic with its own CIR and SLA bypassing the Syrian domestic IXP's and routing a different AS) still showing a heartbeat.  But the point is--you'd at least think you'd see noise out of the government traffic to the international consulate sites (for example); that would give you ambient traffic levels.  I would, anyways.  There was a serious Syrian-originated malware attack about two months ago, and if there's a shred of less-than-sinister origin, it may come from that origin either initiating this blackout or causing a local containment. It would be highly unusual, but not unprecendented.

        To expand (briefly) Deutsche Telekom pulled out of the country a few weeks back, leaving a government-controlled IXP (STC) as the sole exchange carrier.  This does leave in human/political terms a single "kill switch" in play a la China or North Korea (and for that matter, China can't control Hong Kong or Macau or rogue satellite exchange reroutes).

  •  Will New Syria Opposition Survive? (0+ / 1-)
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    Denise Natali argues that an opposition strategy that does not address the deep-rooted sectarian conflict in Syria between Sunnis and Alawites and their regional backers is doomed to failure.

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    •  Keeping hope alive (0+ / 0-)

      That Assad can survive.

      That's your role.

      Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

      by Clay Claiborne on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 06:06:04 PM PST

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      •  Nope. Just passing on reports to counter your (0+ / 1-)
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        propaganda pieces.

        Whether or not Assad remains in power, getting these communities to reconcile remains tantamount. Unless this issue is addressed, alongside recognizing the regional stakes in Syria inclusive of Iran and Russia, there will be no hope for the Coalition and no outcome other than stalemate, bloodshed and factionalization.

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        •  The fact that it's not relevant AND you called (0+ / 0-)

          CC's diary a 'propaganda' indicated direct intent to troll this diary. I don't agree with everything CC says in these or the conclusions he comes to, particularly on our "help" to Assad, but you are trolling, intentionally.

          •  It is worst than trolling (0+ / 0-)

            He is obviously devoting a lot of time and energy to trying to muddy the waters around Syria. You can't have an honest conversation with him or ever prove anything to him as he will keep repeating the party line no matter what.

            I know he will say the say thing about me, but then this is my diary. Besides his basis modus operandi to to blame the other side for the same thing so that you can call it even and walk away.  

            His role here is to create fear, uncertainty and doubt [FUD] in the hopes of forestalling any shift in public opinion that might force the world to do something about Assad.

            I can say forthrightly and without one ounce of shame that I write these dairies precisely in the hopes of aiding exactly such a shift, but then my motives and actions are honorable.

            What he is doing here is much worth than trolling. He is trolling in support of mass murder.

            But he won't stop. As long as I write diaries trying to move the world to action on Syria, we will be working hard to counter that.

            He won't stop. He's on a mission!


            Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

            by Clay Claiborne on Fri Nov 30, 2012 at 10:27:04 AM PST

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  •  Assad's troops destroy telecommunications building (0+ / 0-)

    Activists in Damascus said Assad's troops destroyed the telecommunication building in the capital city of Damascus yesterday.

    Unverified video footage, posted by activists today, purports to show the main telecommunications building in Bebila, Damascus, destroyed.

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