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President Obama and House Minority Leader Pelosi hit back hard, yesterday, at Republican grandstanding by Speaker of the House John Boehner, who has refused to advance a specific proposal for a "grand bargain," but instead, has demanded that Democrats volunteer "entitlement cuts" equal to, or greater than, any revenue increases the GOP "heroically" agrees to. The GOP has been successful in advancing this false "equivalent sacrifice" meme into the media narrative over these last few weeks. Please remember, just one part of this falsehood is the idea that the GOP is making a concession because the Bush tax cuts expire automatically on January 1. The other falsehood is that the only way to cut government spending is by cuts to social spending and not the military spending expansions that were half the real cause of the problem.

Our Democratic leadership responded wisely by changing the focus of attention by demanding that Speaker Boehner allow a vote in the House on the Senate bill to make the middle class tax cuts for those making less than $250,000 permanent. (Correction update: the first $250,000 of income for everyone.) Republicans then whined that President Obama isn't playing fair, In Latest Campaign, Obama Takes Deficit Battle to the Public.

At the K'Nex toy factory President Obama said,

“We’ve got some disagreements about the high-end tax cuts, right?” he said of his insistence on raising taxes on the top 2 percent as part of a broader deficit reduction deal. “That’s a disagreement that we’re going to have and we’ve got to sort out. But we already all agree, we say, on making sure middle-class taxes don’t go up. So let’s get that done. Let’s go ahead and take the fear out for the vast majority of American families so that they don’t have to worry about $2,000 coming out of their pockets starting next year.” ...

“If we can just get a few House Republicans on board, we can pass the bill in the House, it will land on my desk, and I am ready. I’ve got a bunch of pens ready to sign this bill… There are no shortage of pens in the White House,” he joked.


Late Friday afternoon, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi brilliantly escalated this focus with the threat of bypassing John Boehner, with a discharge petition if he doesn't bring the Senate bill to a vote by Tuesday.

Pelosi called on House Republican leadership to bring that legislation to the floor, next week, and threatened that if they do not schedule a vote on the Senate bill, Democrats will file what's known as a discharge petition on Tuesday to force a vote on the measure in her chamber. If Democrats successfully obtain 218 signatures on the discharge petition, it would automatically force the middle income tax cut bill to the floor for a vote.

"We believe that not [bringing the Senate bill to the floor] would be holding middle income tax cuts hostage to tax cuts for the rich," Pelosi said. "Tax cuts for the rich which do not create jobs, just increase the deficit, heaping mountains of debt onto future generations."

"This is really very important," she added, noting that the middle income tax cut extension is just one piece of what needs to be done before the holidays.

So last night, I went onto RedState for some opposition research and discovered that Republicans are now shocked, truly shocked, indignant, and even dismayed, that we Democrats are not responding in "good faith" to their great sacrifice of "permitting" us to raise revenues, by taking up their over half century long plan to slash what they call entitlements and taking up their banner and proposing our own cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

But, a surprising number seem resigned to giving us the middle class tax vote, and then think they should go home without negotiating anything else, rather than fall on their swords in a losing battle, believing our much deserved punishment will be a collapse of the U.S. economy, after going off the "fiscal cliff" and creating a debt crisis that they can exploit in 2014 and 2016. Many recognize they will lose big with the voters if we force them to specifically name the $1 to $1.5 trillion in "entitlement cuts" they want us to volunteer and take the hit for.

If the GOP wants entitlement cuts, let them spell them out in a specific proposal they will sign, and take the responsibility for demanding.  Instead, they prefer to play hard to get, suggesting we start voluntarily listing cuts and other compromises until they eventually, at some unknown point, decide we've sacrificed enough - but also after we've taken the hit with the voters for betraying our social program recipients, who would now blame us rather than the Republicans. No, this is not the way we are going to "negotiate" this time.

Put up or shut up Republicans. You do not want to take the public hit of elaborating the over $1 trillion in specific cuts to social program you want, but instead want Democrats to volunteer this for you?  Well, forget about it, Republicans, we are not going to do it. You want cuts? Then spell them out in a total package you will say yes to if we agree, take responsibility for this position (that you are now beginning to recognize is so untenable the voters will not agree to it), and then let the negotiations begin in ernest, and in public. Otherwise, give us these middle class tax cuts now.

We are not going to betray our base by playing the game of suggesting cuts and making unilateral concessions until you are happy, when our BATNA, (best alternative to a negotiated agreement) is to let the Bush Tax cuts expire automatically on January 1, and let you explain to the American people why you are fighting against and even blocking our heroic attempts to give middle class families a $2,000 tax cut.  

Oh, and by the way, if you would prefer to do it this way, we can play the same game with the so called "doctor's fix," "debt-ceiling," "payroll tax extensions," and "sequestration," and you will lose every time.

But smarten up, Machiavelli advised his noble prince to get bad news over quickly, but draw out good news for as long as possible. We Democrats are prepared to play this game though out the holidays and all winter, if you insist.  Or, you can agree to President Obama's very reasonable and real proposal as is. It is not just an opening gambit, but close to the best deal you, and our nation, will get, at this phase. Yes, we need to balance the budget but not all at once in an austerity bomb that will crash the economy.  

In the meantime, it is absolutely critical that we Democrats remain firm and do not go leaping off the cliff like fearful lemmings volunteering compromises that are not in the best interest of the country and not necessary. Yes, we need to balance the budget, but we do not need to eviscerate social spending to achieve it. To the extent we agree to spending cuts, they should be focused on reductions to the vastly expanded military spending that was half of the cause of the Bush administration's demolition of Clinton's surplus economy and budget. We will look, and actually be, stupid and weak if we allow ourselves to be duped into these false and unwise "compromises."

Let's focus on the real concrete obstacles in front of us now. The tax cuts on the middle class are about to expire on January 1, and we have a straightforward, quick, and painless solution - bring the already passed Senate bill extending them for the first $250,000 of income to the floor next week and allow 20 or so Republicans to join us in approving it. The rest of the GOP can abstain, or vote no and then skulk away and pretend like they weren't even there.

Let us have the vote John Boehner!  Stop holding the gun to the heads of the American people trying to hold us hostage to your extremist ideology. Let us pass the middle tax class cut we all agree on, so we can make the rest of the negotiations easier.

Speaker Boehner, "tear down this wall of GOP obstructionism!"  Americans want to celebrate the holidays without being held hostage to more of these Republican blackmail threats to harm our nation in the name of ideological zeal and purity.

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    by HoundDog on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 03:00:53 PM PST

  •  Hang them all with discharge! (49+ / 0-)

    I live in PA-07. I'll be on the phone with Pat Meehan's office the second Pelosi files that discharge petition.  Republicans in the House need to be destroyed over the taxes of 98% of Americans going up if the House doesn't play ball.

    •  HoundDog... beautiful work! (14+ / 0-)

      I was not "getting it" until I read this diary. It seems so clear now.

      You must attempt to edit a bit and post it in OPINION sections around the country. Good places to try:  Bloomberg News, NYT, WaPo and any place else.  Just the facts, a bit shorter, and I bet it would get posted.

      Please try.  It's well written and clear to anyone who has a clear mind.

      •  I wish I knew a good editor that could show me how (5+ / 0-)

        to go to the next steps for improving my writing, and also to break into this next level of media.  

        I've been looking around for some writing seminars of the sort sort where other people writing these kinds of posts, editorials, or short articles might each bring in a story each week and collectively edit them.  

        What does one do to get into these places - just mail them into the editors?  I am know how to clean up the style, be more polite and civil, and take out the nasty little quips.  I've been meaning to find a copy of the "Elements of Style Book.  Was that Strunk and White or was that a different one.

        If I could break through the polishing barrier I've got plenty where this came from.  Cranked out five yesterday, four of which made it too the REC list.  

        I've been an super avid reader all my life and love to read opinion articles especially NYT, WSJ, WaPo.  

        Thanks for these encouraging comments victoria2dc.  Does your UID mean you've ended up in Washington DC?

        The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

        by HoundDog on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 10:58:29 PM PST

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        •  honestly I read much worse writing on HP (4+ / 0-)
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          writing that is more noticibly flawed (for example, does not support its statements logically).

          Nothing jumped out at me, conversely, in this piece. Rest assured it is ready right now to be sent out as suggested as you meanwhile, as you say, hone your skills.

          Maybe you should message the poster who made the suggestion asking them if they would consider giving you tips on what needs editiing.

          Maybe there is someone (they know someone) on DK who'd do that for you, if not them.

          seriously nothing jumps out at me. I'm not the best writer without a lot of (self) editing. I'm under the impression that other people's writing flows out of them at a much higher initial quality. But I am a very fluent reader...I know when something is not right. It's very common on HP that I get irritated by the quality, for example.
          Yet nothing here jumps out at me. Style does not distract from content at all. It was a pleasant and quick read
          best wishes to you!

          •  Thanks jplanner. Sometimes I get a really good (3+ / 0-)
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            flow that seems natural.  In this one, I erred by thinking I would save time if I started with the text of two previous post, and a new one, but it got so long I ended up spending hours writing connections, elaborating into too much detail, and ended up with four or five paragraphs in different places that said the same thing.  So think I moved all sort of stuff around so much that it didn't seem to flow and my concentration sagged - so this one seem sort of choppy and awkward tome.

            But I guess I should be flattered when you say,   "honestly I read much worse writing on HP writing that is more noticibly flawed..."  Hey, I better write home to Mom about this one.  The best review I've receive yet.   lol

            The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

            by HoundDog on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 08:09:53 AM PST

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            •  that's happened to me before (0+ / 0-)

              trying to meld two different writings from different times.

              It didn't seem choppy to me. I think it seems choppier to the writer becaues we know where the seams are!

              it was fine.

              I've only written three diaries. THe first one was REc listed...i didn't even know what that meant at the time ;). I think for content more than (barely adequate) style. But the other ones didn't really get read.

              I don't have the perseverance right now to work on it more. But it gives me a taste of how hard people do work on their writing at times (though I didn't know you'd spend hours!).

              so you are very welcome for complement. I like to give them when they are true remembering how very much it meant to me that people liked my first diary.

        •  Why don't you give a piece or two the NY Times... (2+ / 0-)
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          try to get a piece published on the editorial pages under personal opinion. Go through the past couple of months, read what's been accepted, and go from there.

          Also, NYTimes Magazine publishes a piece on the back page every week. Start to get published in small pieces like that and you can build up a resume outside of DKos.

          I'm one to talk, though. Like you, I'd like to start writing more professionally and am not really sure how to get from here to there. Those above steps just seem to make sense. I've sent one piece to the NYTimes and never heard back but I need to start trying more regularly.

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          by angelajean on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 09:05:31 AM PST

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          •  Thanks for these kind and encouraging words (1+ / 0-)
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            Angelajean. Getting something published any where in the NTY would be like a lifetime dream.  

            But, I can't even get past the first sentence without thinking the I should of started the sentence with "Yesterday" rather than break up the flow of the noun - verb motion with a temporal phrase.  Originally, I didn't even had it in.  

            Then, just as I'm about to change it another part of my brain says wait, what's the single most important part of the sentence?  President Obama!  Shouldn't that go first?  I just decided on pure intuition that putting yesterday first, getting it out of the way would have been better.  But, If I start thinking more, maybe it should go at the end?

            My point is can you imagine how painful it is to go through every sentence and phrase?  I lose my ability to concentrate on the flow of ideas if I think too much at this level.

            To make thinks worse, as I reread this post, some of these sentences are so damn long, I feel like I'm reading Goethe in the original German.  Which used to give me headaches as they pile up all these weird verb inflections at the end to the sentences.  I remember one sentence ran on for like two pages.  It must be genetic as I have some of that heritage in my blood.

            I wish some of these highly skilled English major-like  front-pagers would do community service, on occasion, by teaching us some of their high-brow learning in workshop-seminar like posts,  by taking some post like this where an aspiring author. like myself,  means well,
            and was well received (got on the rec board on a Saturday night, and survived the dead zone into Sunday afternoon) coming back twice!) but didn't quite have the skills to get to the polished level those dang front-pagers  can spin off the top of their heads without even working up a sweat, or any moaning, screaming, or hair-pulling.

            They could use a red pen and show us how a professional editor would mark it up for changes.  That's probably how a lot of them learned how to do it.  

            Whatever, thanks for cheering me up angelajean.

            Oh, as long as I'm ranting and raving and blowing off steam I'm also frustrated that I seem to have painted  myself into a tragic and terrible corner where somehow,  in a way I don't understand,  I've had six of my last seven posts get on the rec board and by some chance accident, or trickery by elfs, they were all substantive and relatively well proof read by my standards.

            So now, I have about a dozen quick "slap and claps" I want to do on trivial topics like Mitt Romney buying Boston Chicken for Thanksgiving dinner instead of having the big family celebration, but can't for fear I look trivial or silly.  

            Dang, this one of the reasons why I set up this silly anonymous HoundDog UID in the first place.  To escape my vain and perfectionist personality compulsions. Maybe I have to set up a "double super secret anonymous account someplace else" to satisfy my compulsion to just quickly take a few paragraphs from funny and amusing articles and put a quick "hook" opening paragraph, and closing kicker at the end.  I could do this dozens of times all day long and be happier.  

            But, now I may have ruined my reputation by making pretensions of being a serious writer that I actually don't have the skills to pull off without more agony, trauma, and spell checking than should be entailed in a recreational hobby.  If I like doing this kind of stuff I'd get a job and get paid for it.

            Whatever... thanks for listening Angelajean, I feel much better now, that someone knows how much suffering I've been enduring.  


            The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

            by HoundDog on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 12:04:05 PM PST

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            •  The front pagers, as much as I like them, (0+ / 0-)

              are not the only ones who see their work before it publishes. Someone else helps edit. But one of the joys of blogs is that the writer of the blog can use their own voice and that's part of what people reading are actually attracted to. You can over edit a piece. For example, the sentence before this one ends in a preposition. That's a big no-no in written grammar. But in spoken? No one notices. And many blogs are written like we speak. That's why some of your sentences might sound long to you. But I bet they don't sound long to everyone.

              Listen, I'm not a trained editor but I do have an English Lit background. If you ever want me to read your stuff before you publish, let me know. angelajean 4 progress at gmail . com

              You get on the Rec list enough that you're doing something right. It isn't just the subject matter... it's the way you engage the reader.

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              by angelajean on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 12:58:00 PM PST

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    •  Boehner might as well be passing out checks (3+ / 0-)
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      from the 2% to fellow GOPers to keep them in line, like he once did with actual checks from tobacco lobbyists on the House floor prior to a vote on tobacco legislation.

      Boehner is bought and paid for, and always has been.

  •  I love that Obama and Pelosi are hitting them (37+ / 0-)

    hard.   I would hate to be those GOPers who would have to explain to the voters back home why they couldn't just vote on tax cuts for 98% of Americans.

    And if they want to talk spending cuts, then they have to make a specific proposal that they have to own.   The President make them a good offer that doesn't hurt earned benefits and reduces the deficit.   Time for them to decide if they want to make a counter-offer or suffer the consequences of waiting until after January when everyone's taxes go up.

    •  If this is the REAL Barack Obama... (5+ / 0-)
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      then I love him!

      I spent every day of 2012 simply not caring or thinking about politics because he was (IMO) so bad at the job.

      I was sorry that I didn't support Hillary, and on and on.

      And to think that I considered not voting.  Yikes.

      LOL... I apologize Mr. President.  I guess you awakened.  Thanks so much!

      •  it is all the real him (4+ / 0-)

        it took him a long while to get what is needed and what works.

        it is not his nature to believe that fellow Americans would put party before country. It is foreign to him.

        Also I think the Presidency is isolated from feedback to some extent.

        It took him very long to get it.

        Yet, it' sstrange you think that of 2012 when he seemed to get it about a year ago. They had many legistlative successes this time last year was as if O woke up.

        Yikes is right not voting, I have to say. To get anyone out of that bitter action, I remind them that like every choice in life, what is required of us in a Presidential election is siimply to pick the better of two choices. We owe it to our country and our fellow citizens to vote and to pick who we think is better.
        Not voting is like half a vote for the less better choice. Even if you live in a deep blue state (as I do) poppular vote matters in terms of mandate and public perception.

        Sorry if you feel lectured a bit. Hope you get this. At least you admitted it.

        Do you think he was bad at his job overall or just bad at poltics?
        See, he's not that political in terms of horse trading so I think that assesment is fair...he needs to force himself to do it. I think he dislikes playing the needed games. Some people, like Clinton I think like that kind of thing, enjoy it. Johnson comes to mind as well.

        If you think Obama was so bad at his job overall, I wonder if you know what really went on since you tuned out politics. He had unprecedented lock step oppositio, never before seen. They swore they would make him fail in a secret meeting. True he didn't handle that well but no other President was tested by that.

        I, too, hope he learned, but don't think he was bad overall at his job. He was good at many many things. Hope you get that.

      •  So bad at his job? You really don't know what's (0+ / 0-)

        going on. In his first year he signed laws of historic quality and quantity. Since then he's been fighting tooth and nail with huge opposition.

        You are a disappointment to me. I prefer higher quality allies.

        "I believe more women should carry guns. I believe armed women will make the world a better place. Women need to come to think of themselves not as victims but as dangerous." Anna Pigeon

        by glorificus on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 06:00:22 AM PST

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  •  I Honestly Don't Know Where This Is Going To Go (35+ / 0-)

    but more than a few people I respect are saying we'll let the cuts kick in. Lets the tax rate increase for everybody. Then look the Republicans in the eye and dare then not to vote for a tax cut, in like the first week in January, for 98% of the population.

    When opportunity calls pick up the phone and give it directions to your house.

    by webranding on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 03:16:49 PM PST

  •  Great diary (16+ / 0-)

    Isn't the new President Obama delightful, in not playing into the REpubs games anymore? You want some entitlement cuts, repugs, say what they are, okay? I was hoping President Obama's second term would start taking on these tougher contours.

    In addition to the excellent content, your diaries are always visually appealing and obvious you spend a lot of time crafting them.

    As an aside if you don't mind a technical question (because I can't find the answer in the wonderful FAQ section ;-)) how do you wrap text around pictures and format the placement of them? Is it through the use of tables or something else? Tx.

    "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

    by eXtina on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 03:20:52 PM PST

    •  "delight" (4+ / 0-)
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      I'll only truly have delight with President Obama's 2nd term if he gets rid of Arne Duncan, stops pushing education deform, and continues to act like the progressive we all enjoy seeing!

    •  Thanks for you kind comments eXtina. Yes, I spend (4+ / 0-)

      way too much time on graphics and layout.  

      And, I love sharing technical knowledge about formating as virtually everything I've learned has been from the School of Hard knocks.  

      This post has been a disaster in terms of the time I put into it.  Yesterday, I did five posts, four of which got recommended which I really enjoy, even crave and covet, way more than a mature adult my age, and past accomplishment should.  But, they only took 1 to 2 hours each.

      This one I thought would be a really quick start of the day, by combining two from yesterday with a new article, but then I spent hours moving blocks of text back and forth, writing new stuff on adapted bases that got way to long an complicated only to trim them down - through several cycles. And, these embedded videos are an awkward size, but I had to punt just to get it over with.

      I joked late last night that I was about to join a 12-Step program for addicted bloggers.

      Anyhow the secret to wrap around comes from adding align="XXXX" and width="300"to your image source line for a normal photo,  where XXXX is replaced by right or left depending on which side of the page you want it to be on.  Do you know the normal photo format?  I can give you a more specific example if you need.

      If its going to be on the right sometimes I've had to take out the border="0" specification, but this might be superstitious learning.

      If you leave in extra spaces between the specifications the later ones will not activate so I may have started deleting the border=0 in random attempts to solve that problem without realizing it, but haven't had time to experiment.

      A width of 300 is about half the column space.  I reduced Nancy Pelosi's pix in this post down to about 200 or 180 to make the post look smaller as posts this long will reduce readership by at least 50% compared to something that fits on one page, which will be half of what you get if its half a page.

      One thing I haven't figured out yet, but am going to study the front-pagers source code, is getting any caption to stay with the photo block.  In the way I describe here any photo captions will detach and appear off to the side in undesirable random places.  I suspect additional specifiers need to be inside the caption brackets.

      Do you or anyone know how to embed these new  i frame  format videos?  Just as I finally figured out the old object way of doing it there are two knew formats causing me trouble.  Especially the AOL ones.  

      I think the big media conglomerates are trying to make it more difficult for folks like you and me to easily copy them out, unless you go through Facebooks, or twitter or one of their subsidiary units.

      If this is the explanation  I just have to set up Facebook, Google, or Twitter sharing, but haven't done so because all those places only allow one account which I intend to set up for my real ID.  HoundDog was just one character of six I had before I know multiple account here was a banning offense.

      After I learned I let the others go fallow, even though on some of the others I was more popular, and had more posts, but were different species and genders that I would be harder to explain.  But HoundDog was never really me, but a prototype character, for CyberDawg, that was inspired by Tom Tomorrow's Penguin and band of characters in Modern World.  in an internet novel so if you go back seven or so year ago, the history gets strange and might be embarrassing now if I said HoundDog was my moniker, as it has become in these later years.  

      I've been planing on abandoning HoundDog and coming back as myself but, a new stranger, after the election, but have sort of got addicted to having 23,000 recs, even more comments etc.  

      Oh, woe is me......


      The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

      by HoundDog on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 04:06:18 PM PST

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      •  Thanks (3+ / 0-)
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        I am pretty green at a lot of this. I don't even know how to format a picture. All I do is copy the code from photobucket and insert and all I have figured out how to do is center it.
        Once I was adding a caption onto a picture from the Edit function of photobucket and it allowed you to add a caption, that didn't move. That was before I discovered the meme generator.

        I know we now have the image uploader thing but I still have yet to figure that out, and still use photobucket.

        I refuse to log in through those other sites especially facebook so I hope that's not the reason for the iframe embed problem. Especially facebook, I won't do it. I have been having this problem lately as well and too often put 'link to video because it won't embed'.  Some places offer a choice of object or iframe. The most user friendly videos are on NBC and MSNBC they even have a built-in clipping function to shorten your clip if you want. They get it - the more people embed their clips and they get passed around the internet the more visibility they get. The program and guest is always mentioned.

        I wonder if you could ask the management to change your user ID to your real name preserving your history. Others who are not fp'ers or featured writers seem to have done that (eg Scottie Thomaston, Jill Richardson).

        I would hate to give up my history and reputation to start over too.

        "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

        by eXtina on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 05:19:42 PM PST

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        •  So do you now know how to insert the (2+ / 0-)
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          align="right" and width="300" things into the photobucket HTML code?  I use photobucket too and didn't realize we have an image uploader.

          The problem is I don't want my real name associated with all my wild writings here as I have been beyond extreme liberalism especially in the old days.

          Also, I've bee  impolite to some of the Republicans and leaders of some oppressive governments which could turn out to be awkward.

          If I were even nominated for Supreme Court or something how would I explain it all?  

          If I manage to restart my companies many of my past clients are among the world top multinational companies including many of the oil companies.

          So I have to start over as a Mr. Reasonable moderate non-partisan which is going to be extra hard to get recs.

          The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

          by HoundDog on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 06:09:48 PM PST

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          •  No, I don't know anything about it (1+ / 0-)
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            align="right" and width="300" things into the photobucket HTML code?
            always just copied and pasted it. I guess I should look into that ;-)
             I use photobucket too and didn't realize we have an image uploader.
            Here is kos' diary announcing the image library and uploader.

            He says it's for subscribers so you should be able to get it. I'm not so maybe that's why I haven't figured it out ;-) but I do recall it was going to be made available for everyone though I could be imagining that.

            Yes this is a problem

            If I were even nominated for Supreme Court or something how would I explain it all?  
            and if you got nominated I wouldn't even know it!

            "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

            by eXtina on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 06:47:27 PM PST

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            •  Here is the embed code for this picture of James (1+ / 0-)
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              Clyburn. I've replaced the outside most open and close brackets, equal sign and colons  with TEXT so you can see the embed code unprocessed.  

              OPEN BRACKET a hrefEQUAL"httpCOLON/" target="_blank" CLOSE BRACKET OPEN BRACKET img srcEQUAL"" align="right" width="240" alt="Photobucket" ClOSE BRACKET OPEN BRACKET /a CLOSE BRACKET

              So you see I inserted align="right" width="240" just before alt="Photobucket" and took out the border="0" from the HTML embed code that comes from Photbucket.

              If this isn't clear another trick you may already know is place the cursor somewhere in this comment field and right click and chose "source code."  Then use the Find tool on OPEN BRACKET and you will see the complete source code for the photo below which words will automatically wrap around.  


              Ha! Does this mean I know have a "favor" I can call in like on The Godfather."  

              Next time I'm just one rec away from getting on the REC Big Board, you may get a call from me, or one of my minioins who will say "eXtina, The HoundDog needs a favor!"

              Bwa, ha, ha!  

              Aaaahhhhooooooooo! Woof! woof! woof!

              The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

              by HoundDog on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 08:17:04 PM PST

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              •  LOL LOL LOL what a small price to pay (1+ / 0-)
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                especially since you'd never beat me to it.

                Next time I'm just one rec away from getting on the REC Big Board, you may get a call from me, or one of my minioins who will say "eXtina, The HoundDog needs a favor!"
                Minions, eh?

                Thanks for doing all that, I will have to look at it tomorrow. Ciao.

                "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

                by eXtina on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 08:26:37 PM PST

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          •  Image Uploader = (1+ / 0-)
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            "Make sure you own this image, or have license to it, before you upload it."
            That leaves out all 50,000 of my images.

            A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five. -- Groucho Marx

            by Pluto on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 07:57:28 PM PST

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      •  Ah, you ain't nothing but a hound dog (1+ / 0-)
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        Crying all the time. :-)

        If there is no accountability for those who authorized torture, we can no longer say that we are a nation of laws, not men.

        by MikePhoenix on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 08:33:08 PM PST

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  •  Ha ha ha ha ha (13+ / 0-)
    So last night, I went onto RedState for some opposition research and discovered that Republicans are now shocked, truly shocked, indignant, and dismayed even, that we Democrats are not responding in "good faith" to their great sacrifice of "permitting" us to raise revenues, by taking up their over half century long plan to slash what they call entitlements by taking up their banner and proposing our own cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.
    Ha freakin ha. What else can one say? Yes, I love how they will 'allow' more revenue to flow that would have flowed in regardless of anything they would have done.
  •  I just have no idea what the hell they're doing. (5+ / 0-)

    There is no way they can salvage the top rate, capital gains and dividend taxes, and the estate tax.  They don't have to give an inch on spending; not with sequester and the debt ceiling looming. The only choice they have is whether or not to take the blame for an immense tax increase.  

    I can't think of a single explanation for this intransigence beyond mass delusion.

  •  We are dealing here with a very sore loser (3+ / 0-)
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    one with a big, bruised, sore ego.

    It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

    by karmsy on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 05:27:50 PM PST

    •  Well, ummmm... (2+ / 0-)
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      We are dealing here with a very sore loser one with a big, bruised, sore ego
      Agree, but 1) is it true that the man is a drunk? Is any of that documented or is that some trash that someone made up?  2) If it's true, wouldn't it be truthful to say that is brain probably is cloudy?

      I've never been a drunk, but it seems like it might cause a few problems for a fella' who has the responsibility for making or breaking the American economy.  No?

      •  Oh, I think that stuff (1+ / 0-)
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        about Boehner being a drunk is substantiated. Not to defend Boehner, but there are such critters as high-functioning alcoholics, who hold high-powered jobs, and just drink evenings and weekends. (Winston Churchill was apparently one of these.)

        It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

        by karmsy on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 07:32:32 AM PST

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  •  I think it's time that Obama be the grownup (2+ / 0-)
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    HoundDog, Quanta

    in this situation and give the Repubs what they want. We can't afford much more of this politics as usual partisanship. It's what the American People want.

    ...and if you believe that, can I have some of what you're smoking?

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 05:31:53 PM PST

    •  I thought you were serious for a moment and did a (2+ / 0-)
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      double take.  Like "oh dear, what happened to kovie? Has he been kidnapped and brainwashed?"

      The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

      by HoundDog on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 06:14:08 PM PST

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    •  I say this as snark right away (0+ / 0-)

      The very first line "I think it's time that Obama be the grownup" struck my as being incredulous and likely sarcasm.

      No liberal thinks Obama has ever been anything other than mature and the wackjobs on the right cannot conceive of Obama as anything but a boogie man.  The only person who would make a comment like that seriously would be a brain dead centrist but this being daily kos and snarky liberal is more likely.

      The next line, "in this situation and give the Repubs what they want." makes it perfectly clear that this is sarcasm.  No brain dead centrist thinks in terms of Obama giving the republicans what they want, that's the liberal view.  They see it as Obama compromising, even if the "compromise" amounts to Obama giving the GOP what they want.

      The next two sentences are very typical brain dead centrist pundit rhetoric.  And I have to wonder what it is that they are smoking.

      "It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic, because there was no sense in what he said." "The War Prayer" by Mark Twain

      by Quanta on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 09:56:07 AM PST

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  •  Raise the anti - (4+ / 0-)

    Put Social Security and Veterans Disability Benefits on the table with the following proviso - I reliy on both:


    Not until tax rates are rolled back to Saint Ronald Reagan's era can any entitlements be touched.

    Oh, yes. There is one more way to same a pile of tax dollars not to mention some lives . . . it's to gat the hell out of Afghanistan RIGHT NOW.

    Those who fought the war in Afghanistan won it. Get them out of Afghanistan NOW . . . It's long past time. Those who want to wage the next war in Afghanistan are condemned to lose it.

    by llbear on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 05:44:16 PM PST

  •  The doc fix can wait, the millionaire break expire (1+ / 0-)
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    Just get a public vote on the 98 percent tax cuts and go home a Holiday Hero.

    And while they are at it, shove the Dream Act in their face. It's already passed Senate committees. Snowe and Brown wouldn't dare block it. Send it to the House and make a big #$%^&* deal out of their vote on it.

  •  Its A Numbers Game Now (3+ / 0-)
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    First off, EXCELLENT summary of the situation Hound Dog!

    Its a numbers game now in the sense of how many non-Tea Party Republican House members will either sign the Discharge Petition out of self preservation or stick with their leadership and openly refuse to sign it thereby allowing themselves to being branded as opposing a middle class tax cut and allowing taxes to increase on January 1.

    But this is bigger than a dispute over taxes.  Its an OPPORTUNITY!  An opportunity to split the Republican Caucus.  To split the remaining moderates from the leadership and the far-right Tea Party Wackos that control them.  And without moderate Republicans, the Republican majority in the House is in DEEP, DEEP trouble.

    "Some men see things as they are and ask, 'Why?' I dream of things that never were and ask, 'Why not?"

    by Doctor Who on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 06:41:00 PM PST

    •  Thanks Doctor Who. Just that we try sets a new (1+ / 0-)
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      tone in Washington, like Ronald Reagan did when facing off the air traffic controllers.

      The GOP has to smarten up and smell their own fear or start paying bigger prices for their obstructionism.

      The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

      by HoundDog on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 08:21:53 PM PST

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  •  Does anyone have an idea (1+ / 0-)
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    on who the 20 republicans could be?  Are there 20 in the house that aren't completely batshit insane?

    "Mediocrity cannot know excellence." -- Sherlock Holmes

    by La Gitane on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 06:54:22 PM PST

  •  Any cuts Democrats make, Republicans will be (1+ / 0-)
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    happy to campaign on, just as they have the past two elections regarding Medicare. Best just to let the Goppers take credit for the cuts & accept whatever bad publicity for raising marginal tax rates may come.

    Who cares what banks may fail in Yonkers. Long as you've got a kiss that conquers.

    by rasbobbo on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 08:05:09 PM PST

  •  Obama has nothing to lose now (3+ / 0-)
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    HoundDog, isabelle hayes, Lawrence

    I hope he extends this bravery to the drug wars as well...

    •  We may be able to save $25 billion to $50 billion (2+ / 0-)
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      isabelle hayes, Lawrence

      in reduced government spending and improve the situation immediately, making everyone happy.  

      This would be an enormous help. Pardon the non-violent drug offenders who are now in jail costing us $50,000/per year per person.

      The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

      by HoundDog on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 12:00:01 AM PST

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  •  Thanks for this great diary! (2+ / 0-)
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    Dems grow a backbone at last! :)

  •  Republican Waterloo (2+ / 0-)
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    Don't you just love how this has boomeranged on the Republicretins. First Demint said ACA would be Obama's Waterloo. "It will break him". Then Mitch McTurtle said they were going to make certain Obama was a 1 term president.
    Now Obama is showing "That which does not kill me, makes me stronger". So we have Obama unleashed. In this second term, it's ok for him to be the angry black guy. After being the nice guy in the first term, the voters told him to go kick some ass in the second. They have his back. I hope Obama makes the Republicretins live to regret his re-election. He could be their worst nightmare. They're already worried about 2014.

  •  Put up or shut up. (2+ / 0-)
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    HoundDog, MBishop1

    That should be the title of your next diary.

    You keep hitting homeruns, HoundDog... keep it going.

    Help a Milwife win the Photobucket contest - Please Share, Like, and Comment, not necessarily in that order!

    by angelajean on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 09:02:48 AM PST

  •  If the average American paid more attention (2+ / 0-)
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    The GOP would become an extinct party.  The vast majority of people do not want cuts to entitlements and when it comes to election time the GOP claims to defend SS/Medicare/Medicaid.  But as soon as the elections are over they are back to trying to cut or kill the programs.

    If more people would pay attention to what the GOP says and does when elections aren't looming they'd be crushed every election.

    "It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic, because there was no sense in what he said." "The War Prayer" by Mark Twain

    by Quanta on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 09:06:16 AM PST

    •  We need to help bridge this gap. Which probably (0+ / 0-)

      means writing more on newspaper letter to editors and other places than preaching to the choir here. where it is a log more fun.

      The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

      by HoundDog on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 12:10:09 PM PST

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