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The good news is that according to the latest PPP Poll,, voters in Illinois support same-sex marriage in the state by a margin of 47% to 42%. But that's only because of the overwhelming support same-sex marriage gets from Black and Latino voters. (The majority of white voters oppose marriage equality by a margin of 51% to 40%.)

By 60% to 16%, Black voters approve the legalization of same-sex marriage in Illinois. By a whopping 70% to 23% Latino voters in Illinois support same-sex marriage. Note that both groups support marriage equality by more than 3 to 1 margins. Compare and contrast that to white voters 40% support vs. 51% opposition to marriage equality.

These findings explode conservative right-wing myths about minority voters.

With 70% approval of same-sex marriage in Illinois, Latino voters are at the forefront in support for LGBT rights. (And these findings are born out nationwide, with 2012 election exit polls showing 59% of Latino voters in favor of legalization of same-sex marriage (compared to 48% of all voters supporting legalization)

So much for the conservative republican meme that Latinos are cultural conservatives who are ill at ease with liberal Democratic stands on social issues and therefore easy pickings for republicans if they would only talk nice to them and ease up a bit on immigration reform.  (And this same poll shows that Latino voters in Illinois give Obama an 84% job approval rating--remember back in 2008 when republicans maintained that Latinos would never support a Black president?)

And with Black support of marriage equality at 60% in Illinois (And at 52% nationwide according to 2012 election exit polls), it shows that republican attempts to play Black and LGBT voters against each other in an attempt to weaken the Democratic coalition have failed.

The Democrats have put together a winning coalition that is cohesive, mutually supportive, and culturally liberal, with much of that cultural liberalism coming from minority voters.

Republicans just don't get that, and all their attempts to appeal to what they fantasize to be a pervasive cultural conservatism among minorities (that doesn't in reality exist--kinda like having a conversation with an empty chair) are doomed to failure.  


Originally posted to Williston Barrett on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 07:34 AM PST.

Also republished by Land of Lincoln Kos.

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  •  Hope this helps to lessen gay white prejudice (6+ / 0-)

    against their vision of "bigoted people of color."  In the recent past, gay white liberals have blamed non-white voters demographically for various marriage equality defeats.  Especially in California in November 2008.  

  •  Yay! (6+ / 0-)

    They got thru civil unions a couple of years ago, which though a first step was entirely insufficient.

    There's no reason not to move now on Marriage Equality.  The sooner, the better.

  •  It's really fascinating, huh? (6+ / 0-)

    To see just how quickly views have changed just from 2004 till today. I'm really excited for the future for the first time in a long-time, and hope that we can begin really making this coalition, large as it is, make it's voice heard.

  •  Because minority voters understand . . (4+ / 0-)
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    what it's like to be systemically discriminated against, and once that case was made effectively as part of the marriage equality campaign, they were very receptive to the argument indeed.

    A large chunk of white middle America simply has no clue about this.

    One other thing to point out; it's no accident that Barack Obama, with his Mayor Harold Washington-derived campaign team and background (exhibit A: David Axelrod), has put together a very Washington-style coalition, with extremely strong support from both black and Hispanic voters for a platform that is both economically and socially liberal and where middle class minority voters are absolutely central to the movement.  And it's worth reminding ourselves that even liberal whites were relatively fickle members of that coalition at first.  

    It's also worth reminding ourselves that working and middle class white voters alike remain to be won over, and its an important and worthwhile challenge to do so.

    •  I agree with one caveat (4+ / 0-)
      what it's like to be systemically discriminated against, and once that case was made effectively as part of the marriage equality campaign, they were very receptive to the argument indeed.
      (White) LGBTs have, until recently, assumed that you didn't have to make the argument to people of color and, instead, assumed that "those people" should know and should vote accordingly.
    •  One other thing (0+ / 0-)

      I'm sorry, liberal whites were always the cornerstone of the Obama coalition, dating from his initialState senate campaign in 1996 up...until and through the 2008 elections, actually.

      In terms of the politics of "the Obama coalition" over time, you really are quite mistaken.

      Washington had to win over liberal white. Obama never did, he need to win over POC.

  •  So much for "social conservatism" among Latinos (0+ / 0-)

    Somehow the Mormons got the minority of social conservative Latinos to vote for Prop 8 in California.  They got them from the bully pulpit in church.  But the majority of Latinos in California support marriage equality IMO. (I am a Latino in California).

    The net Latino (18%) vote at 53-47 contributed to 25% of the victory margin.
    And this;
    The study finds that after taking into account the effect of church attendance, support for Proposition 8 among African Americans and Latinos was not significantly different than other groups. Through a precinct-by-precinct analysis and review of multiple other sources of data, the study also puts African-American support for Proposition 8 at no more than 59 percent, nowhere close to the 70 percent reported the night of the election. Finally, the study shows how support for marriage equality has grown substantially across almost all California demographic groups — except Republicans.

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    by Shockwave on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 10:04:11 AM PST

    •  They'll sell a lot of BYU road game tickets, too. (1+ / 0-)
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      So why don't the all-powerful Mormons who have this strange ability to control the minds of minorities just convert them to their religion?

      Then, they'll make 10% of their growing incomes.

  •  ¿Ud está en favor de igualidad de matrimonios? (0+ / 0-)

    Asking it that way may bring different results from social conservatives who arrived here more recently.

    But on the other hand, Mexico has marriage equality now; so that might change some minds.

  •  It's time for marriage equality in Illinois (1+ / 0-)
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