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Why won't Republicans help force a vote on the floor on extending middle class tax breaks? Watch Rep. John Duncan (R-TN) explain.

He's for keeping the tax break for the middle class, he "voted for that." But he won't sign a discharge petition on the bill that will actually make it happen because "I'm not going to give control of the floor to Democrats." And there you have it.

Use this tool to e-mail your representative, asking them to sign the discharge petition. If your member has signed it, you can thank him or here, too.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:00 AM PST.

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  •  Republicans can force Boehner to take it to floor (19+ / 0-)

    If it is not on the floor to be voted for, it is because Republicans are stopping it. They are lying about supporting the middle class tax cut.

    The GOP is the party of mammon. They mock what Jesus taught.

    by freelunch on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:02:26 AM PST

    •  of course they are. why would anyone expect (5+ / 0-)

      them to do anything different?

      •  Expect? No. Hope? Yes. (5+ / 0-)
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        nellgwen, myboo, DianeNYS, Aunt Pat, Wrench44

        It would be nice if Republicans would become the party that gave us Lincoln and TR rather than the party that gave us Joe McCarthy and W. I'm tired of their lies and their indifference to the overwhelming majority of Americans. I'm tired of their ability to keep lying enough to get those Americans they don't like to vote for them.

        The GOP is the party of mammon. They mock what Jesus taught.

        by freelunch on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:08:43 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  I would tell you why they do that (8+ / 0-)

          but it would take too long to explain.
          How condescending can you get?
          He just told his Constituents they are idiots.
          I hope Tennessee doesn't elect him again and says, "I would tell you why we didn't send you back to Washington D.C. but it takes too long to explain."

          "Too much. There's too much fucking perspective now." David St. Hubbins

          by nellgwen on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:19:42 AM PST

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          •  His constituents ARE idiots! I should know! (3+ / 0-)
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            MrSpock, freelunch, nellgwen

            I'm one of them ... alas ...

            How condescending can you get?
            He just told his Constituents they are idiots.
            John Duncan Jr., from the hillbilly region of Tennessee, one of the thickest and least talented backbenchers on the red side of the chamber, at least has the virtue of being mostly benign. His singular lack of talent normally prevents him from getting anything done, positive or negative.

            TN-02 has been Republican since 1856. That's not a typo: eighteen fifty six. John Duncan Jr. took over in 1988, after his father, John Duncan Sr., who had held the seat since 1964, passed away. Do the math: This seat has been been held by the same family for nearly 50 years. We're not afraid of a little inbreeding in these parts.

            You wrote,

            I hope Tennessee doesn't elect him again
            Ain't gonna happen. Little Johnny occupies the safest seat in the House. He could do bloody nothing from now until the end of time & we'll keep sending him back.

            “Americans are fighters. We're tough, resourceful and creative, and if we have the chance to fight on a level playing field, where everyone pays a fair share and everyone has a real shot, then no one - no one - can stop us. ”-- Elizabeth Warren

            by Positronicus on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 09:20:35 AM PST

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      •  One Reason: President Foldomatic (0+ / 0-)

        The awesome power of pre-capitulation!

      •  If the constituents are asking, this is something (0+ / 0-)

        Rs will need to think about harder as constituents do not want to hear that representing them is subordinated to the politics and position of the political party the person who swore to represent them and not that party, is a member. This one will come back to haunt the guy in the video.

  •  Seems like the Repubs have adopted (4+ / 0-)
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    Aunt Pat, TKO333, Dobber, a2nite

    the G. Gordon Liddy approach to politics. - "We have to destroy the nation in order to save it."

    "Onward through the fog!" - Oat Willie

    by rocksout on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:11:25 AM PST

  •  so if this guys house was on fire and a democrat (11+ / 0-)

    gave him a hose to put the fire out he would let his house burn to the ground JUST because?   OY!

    republicans like him are such good examples of what it really means to 'cut off your nose to spite your face'

    "You've got to be an optimist to be a Democrat, and a humorist to stay one" - Will Rogers

    by KnotIookin on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:13:32 AM PST

  •  Republicans only represent the people... (2+ / 0-)
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    Aunt Pat, a2nite

    that voted for them (and think like them)...this isn't new.

    "It's almost as if we're watching Mitt Romney on Safari in his own country." -- Jonathan Capeheart

    by JackND on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:17:54 AM PST

  •  They won't do it (4+ / 0-)

    unless they get their way. They don't care about the majority of the people, they care about their wealthy patrons who finance their campaigns and, more importantly, hire them for cushy, high paid lobbying jobs after they leave Congress. Not only that, but most of these guys would see their own taxes go up if the Bush cuts expire.

    It's all self interest.

    "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

    by happy camper on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:19:30 AM PST

  •  I used the tool to mail my rep - John Boehner. (13+ / 0-)

    And personalized the email asking him for once in his career to help his constituents, and not just himself.

  •  Ideaology Always Comes First (4+ / 0-)
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    Jerry056, freelunch, TKO333, a2nite

    Republicans cannot do anything that makes the Democrats look good.  They would rather the country go down in flames before helping the Democrats.

    Bad politicians are sent to Washington by good people who don't vote.

    by Renie57 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:20:36 AM PST

    •  Republicans are supporters of racism in America (3+ / 0-)
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      Aunt Pat, Miggles, a2nite

      They always deny that they are racist themselves, but we never see them stand up against racists in their party. We never see them doing things that help the poor because the poor have too many people of color.

      The GOP is the party of mammon. They mock what Jesus taught.

      by freelunch on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:29:36 AM PST

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  •  Because democrats have teh cooties, thaat's why! (1+ / 0-)
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    Aunt Pat

    They are teh eeeevulll!

    Don't let millionaires steal Social Security.
    I said, "Don't let millionaires steal Social Security!"

    by Leo in NJ on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:22:53 AM PST

  •  For all their talk about 'personal responsibility' (4+ / 0-)
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    freelunch, Aunt Pat, TKO333, mchestnutjr

    ...why TF can't Republican't politicians take a firm stance on anything and just own it?

    Procedural loopholes allow too much room for our elected representatives in both houses to remain on both sides of any issue so that they can continue to 'please' all of their base.

    Take a stand, for fck's sake. This is getting old fast.

    Grow up and do your fuckin' jobs, you babies.

    draw a window on the wall to remind you of the silkrain that makes things grow - Yoko Ono

    by quinn on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:26:06 AM PST

    •  "why TF can't Republican't politicians take.." (2+ / 0-)
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      freelunch, Sue B

      Because their positions are poison. If they admitted what their real priorities are, they would not be elected.
      1% might have all the money, but it takes 50%+1 to go to Washington.

      If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

      by CwV on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:50:59 AM PST

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  •  It's the new messaging. (2+ / 0-)
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    Sue B, GayHillbilly

    AKA lying yer ass off.  They were really clobbered when actual candidates said actual things they believe in.  

    Now they know they have to return to the old messaging and call it the new messaging because the truth about what they believe is really really really unpopular.

    So of course they support keeping tax cuts for the middle class until it comes time to vote for those tax cuts.

    I suspect the new messaging isn't going to help them much.  The same old voting patterns keep tripping them up.

    I'm not looking for a love that will lift me up and carry me away. A love that will stroll alongside and make a few amusing comments will suffice.

    by I love OCD on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:39:10 AM PST

  •  Translation (2+ / 0-)
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    freelunch, Miggles

    I'm not going to give control of the floor to 98% of Americans.

    The choice of our lifetime: Mitt Romney, It Takes A Pillage or President Barack Obama, Forward Together.

    by FiredUpInCA on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:40:00 AM PST

  •  F**k him. (2+ / 0-)
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    freelunch, Miggles

    I agree with Howard Dean;  taxes need to go up on everybody:

    "This is, initially, gonna seem like heresy from a progressive," Dean said. "The truth is, everybody needs to pay more taxes, not just the rich. That's a good start, but we're not gonna get out of this deficit problem unless we raise taxes across the board."
    If it takes Republican dickishness to make that happen, fine.  IMO, the best deal for the nation is, in effect, no deal.  So the Republicans can actually do a service for the country by being themselves with regards to the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, as well as sequestration and whatever else constitutes the impending fiscal pimple.  

    Let the tax cuts expire, then how about making a few changes to eliminate the sweetheart deal on investment income.  IOW, once taxes have gone up for everyone, then we can talk about raising taxes on the rich.

    I am become Man, the destroyer of worlds

    by tle on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:40:26 AM PST

    •  Taxes need to go up, but not during the recovery (1+ / 0-)
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      Give it another year or two and then do it.

      Meanwhile, spend every cent from the tax increase on added stimulus for the next year.

      The GOP is the party of mammon. They mock what Jesus taught.

      by freelunch on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:46:37 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  That shouldn't stop us from taking action. (0+ / 0-)

      Now is the time to mobilize, organize, and talk with neighbors and coworkers and family.  

      Get in on The Action

      by Benintn on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:50:02 AM PST

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    •  The problem with that is that when 100 million (0+ / 0-)

      people start getting $20 to $60 per week less to spend, it will hurt the economy, no question. Unfortunately, despite Obama's continued claim he won't cave, I don't think he'll risk crashing the world economy when the Republicans tie tax rates on the rich to the debt ceiling, which they will do. There doesn't seem to be any amount of political pressure that can stop the GOP from holding everything hostage for the very rich. They don't care about anything else, even their reelections at this point.

      Let's not let 2014 be anything like 2010. Republicans only win when we stay home!

      by Tim D M on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:52:46 AM PST

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      •  "The law forces me to spend the money" (0+ / 0-)

        "Spending bills came after the debt ceiling, they implicitly overrode the debt ceiling. I cannot stop spending without Congressional authority."

        The GOP is the party of mammon. They mock what Jesus taught.

        by freelunch on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 09:01:38 AM PST

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      •  Respectfully disagree on debt ceiling (2+ / 0-)
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        Jake formerly of the LP, a2nite

        When the Repugs did that this fall, the PR turned out badly for them. Repeating the same hostage-taking activity next month and expecting a different result is the classic definition of insanity. The GOP may be largely stupid, they may be mostly under the control of their wealthy owners, but they're not really crazy. Are they?

        Why do you need to motivate your employees? Didn't you hire motivated people?

        by davelf2 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 09:14:53 AM PST

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    •  Agree 100% (0+ / 0-)

        Plus, once the new members of Congress have the middle-class tax cut go through, and retroactively to Jan. 1, it'll be a nice little rebate check in March for the rest of us. And a whole lot fairer tax code.

         The low rates on capital gains and dividends need to go even more than the tax cuts for the rich. Both have been major reasons in the brutal ineuqality and wage stagnation that are the real things holding the economy back.

  •  One way you can help - (0+ / 0-)

    Rep. Gloria Johnson (D-Knoxville) is former chair of the Knox County Democrats and is a newly elected state representative.  Contact Gloria and let her know you've got her back.

    Get in on The Action

    by Benintn on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:47:40 AM PST

  •  Not gonna waste my time (1+ / 0-)
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    My rep is Tea Partier Andy Harris, and I know he won't sign the discharge petition. I won't even try contacting him about it; every time I or my wife have done so about a vote, he follows the Tea Party line and votes no.

    "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" - Red Green

    by FlashfyreSP on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:58:51 AM PST

    •  Then let him know that he is a fool (0+ / 0-)

      Just remind his staff what kind of person they work for.

      The GOP is the party of mammon. They mock what Jesus taught.

      by freelunch on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 09:02:24 AM PST

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    •  Fine! But (1+ / 0-)
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      Sue B

      Fine. Don't write the fool.

      But write a LTE to your local paper pointing out how he is obstructing the continuation of the tax cut for ALL the payers of Federal Income Tax in his district.

      The Senate plan calls for extension of the complete tax cut for those making under $250,000 a year (taxable income, which is well less than gross income, though that is too much to put in a LTE or blog post). It also cuts about $8,000 off the tax bill of those making more.

      Most papers have a blog to which you can contribute these days. If your local paper doesn't publish you LTE, post on the blog as soon as it mentions his name.

  •  Brains DO Matter (2+ / 0-)
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    winsock, a2nite

    "But he won't sign a discharge petition on the bill that will actually make it happen because "I'm not going to give control of the floor to Democrats." And there you have it."

    If I didn't know Daily Kos so well, I would swear that someone made this up.  Because, to me, people with functioning brains just do not reason this way.

    I remember an old Smothers Brothers skit where Tom tells Dick that you can tell who is running the country by the amount of clothing they wear.  Dick asks Tom who IS running the country.  Tom says, "the more-ons!"

    Take away the E, and one can see who the Democrats' opposition really is in Washington, D. C.

  •  Dear Rep. Duncan, May you never need "control... (2+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, Zinman

    ... of the floor" from a Democrat. Politics works both ways, by definition. Cocky, over-simple and politically ridiculous answers ultimately serve you and your cause(s) poorly.

    Someday, you will want good will from Democrats. With your attitude, do you expect to get it? Why?

    2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

    by TRPChicago on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 09:42:11 AM PST

  •  President Roosevelt had a phrase for this (2+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, GayHillbilly

    In 1938, Roosevelt referred to several Southern Democrats as "yes, but" men.  Duncan is following a long tradition.  His collegue, Richard Roe, in Upper East Tennessee beat a Tea Party type with the slogan, "People, not Politics!"  However, since winning Roe has voted the Tea Party line--possibly out of fear.  

    Historically, the two Republican seats in East Tennessee were held by practical deal-makers.  That pretty much changed with Nixon's Southern Strategy.  There were flashes of dealmaking independence in 1974 and 1986.

  •  Keep It Up (0+ / 0-)

    Obstructionist bastards, every last one of you. But please, don't stop doing what you're doing. Keep sticking your fingers down America's throat until we regurgitate your entire party.

  •  It didn't take THAT long to explain that. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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    The GOP can't win on ideas. They can only win by lying, cheating, and stealing. So they do.

    by psnyder on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 10:09:07 AM PST

  •  Well, that's helpful. (0+ / 0-)

    Glad he's putting country before party. Makes perfect sense to me that you won't put something you support on the floor because the other side wants it on the floor. Yeah. Great.

    by Magenta on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 10:21:17 AM PST

  •  He's evil & stupid like all elected Rs (1+ / 0-)
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    (R's) take those tired memes and shove 'em, Denise Velez Oliver, 11/7/2012.

    by a2nite on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 10:51:51 AM PST

  •  Hey Joan baby (0+ / 0-)

    Thank-you so much for many the easy-to-use forms to send my congressman an email and this issue and others. I really appreciate this service.

    best regards

    the Republican brand is totally bankrupt.

    by vlyons on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 11:31:11 AM PST

  •  My congressman (Cambell, CA-Teagasser) said (2+ / 0-)
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    Tailspinterry, GayHillbilly

    almost the exact same thing when I called last week.

    He said they had voted for middleclass tax cuts. I asked why he would not sign the discharge petition. He said they didn't need to, they had already voted for MClass tax cuts.

    It's the GOP meme.

    202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

    by cany on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 12:25:01 PM PST

    •  Ack. Campbell not Cambell. My typing today seems (0+ / 0-)

      to be as bad as his politics.

      202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

      by cany on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 06:17:37 PM PST

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  •  My GOP Rep. Joe Heck NV-03 also (0+ / 0-)

    instructs the interns on the phone to say, "He already voted for the middle-class tax cuts," as if we don't know the difference between the Ryan budget and the president's plan to expire the cuts for the top 2% of earners and continue the cuts for the middle class.
      The identical response is misleading, disingenuous and an insult to our intelligence. I warned local The Action organizers to prepare callers to counter this truthiness.
       Also, Heck frequently mentions "closing loopholes for special interests" and has never specified which loopholes or how much revenue would accrue.
       Unfortunately, he won by 7.5% in a district Obama won by less than 1%, so he probably feels he doesn't need to pay attention to us. I doubt he will vote for the petition to discharge.

    ....the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. FDR 1933

    by Tailspinterry on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 02:35:07 PM PST

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