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My boys. My sweet, pure boys. The absolute light of my life. My everything.  I can't even wrap my head around this tragedy, because I see them when I think about this and my heart is ripped from my chest.  The horror is beyond comprehension to me.  Where do we even begin? Where do we go from here? How do we start down the path of sanity to prevent this?

Now IS the time to discuss it. We owe it to this class of Kindergartners. Executed in cold blood by a maniac. A maniac with guns. Not a knife. Guns. A whole class of my sweet, pure boys who will never play with their Ninjago again. Who will never draw comic books for daddy again or buy their parents sweet little presents for Channukah again. No more laughter, no more tears, no scraped knees or bike rides. No more tickling. Stuffed animals and security blankets will no longer be strewn about the house. Gone.

I would die on the spot if this happened to my kids.  Or lose it completely and be irredeemably catatonic.  The meaninglessness, the randomness, the hopelessness would be too much to bear. My heart would give. I know it would. These parents....I can't wrap my head around it....

There is no meaning to this now.  But we must give it meaning. We must start down the path to sanity or we as a culture, as country, as a society are as empty and diseased as this shooter.  If we don't do something we are all guilty from here on out when this continues to happen.  It must start and it must start now.

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  •  just because words may fail us (26+ / 0-)

    does NOT mean that now isn't PRECISELY the time to have this discussion.

    i hate to admit how little hop i have. if we were, at the federal level, unable to address the issue when a congresswoman is gravely injured (and staffers and others killed), i don't think there's anything sufficiently horrifying to get us to stand up to the nra and the gun nuts and tell them: no more.

    i would, actually, much prefer to be completely wrong in that.

    it's just so awful.

    "i hear you're mad about brubeck ... i like your eyes. i like him too." -donald fagen

    by homo neurotic on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 01:10:45 PM PST

  •  The sing songy voices (17+ / 0-)

    and the why questions that the little ones do daily means the silence in these parents' homes and hearts will be forever.  My hope is their greatest legacy is a safer nation for children and that nothing like this is visited upon other families.  This is just more than my broken heart can bear.

    Every time history repeats itself, the price goes up...East Wing Rules

    by Pithy Cherub on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 01:12:02 PM PST

  •  Discuss what? Control on handguns? (0+ / 0-)

    The dude used two commonly bought everyday handguns.

    Where do you go with that?  What do we start to discuss?

    These guns are everywhere.  There is nothing.  NOTHING.  we can do.  

    "So what if a guy threw a shoe at me!"

    by FoodChillinMFr on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 01:22:45 PM PST

    •  If You Believe That, You're Dead Inside (6+ / 0-)

      n/t

      This post is dedicated to myself, without whom, I'd be somebody else. Though I'd still be an asshole. My Music: [http://www.myspace.com/beetwasher]

      by Beetwasher on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 01:23:42 PM PST

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      •  Was that a response? Tell me! (1+ / 0-)
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        What can you do?  

        Any nutcase can go buy these guns or steal them from neighbors/parents.

        I've got an idea?  Ban handguns.  No?  Well, my point stands that there is nothing you can do.

        "So what if a guy threw a shoe at me!"

        by FoodChillinMFr on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 01:27:49 PM PST

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        •  Yes, You're Dead Inside, There's A Lot To Do (4+ / 0-)
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          rigcath, KrazyKitten, HappyinNM, Matt Z

          The first step is recognizing there's a big problem and discussing the issue and possibilities.

          To say there's nothing we can do and we just have to live it makes you one sick, empty mutherfucker.

          This post is dedicated to myself, without whom, I'd be somebody else. Though I'd still be an asshole. My Music: [http://www.myspace.com/beetwasher]

          by Beetwasher on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 01:29:29 PM PST

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          •  I just picked up my 1st and 3rd grader. (1+ / 0-)
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            I'm not empty and sad I assure you.

            but, you still haven't given me a response other than "sick empty mfr".

            I'll give you a realistic starting point.  We could increase access to mental health care.

            Other than that you can get reeeally mad at automatic rifles and long clips.  Too bad we can't do that because these were handguns.

            Limit ammo?  You'll get people stockpilling ammo.

            Limit access to handguns?  That's just not realistic.

            So I guess I'm still that sick empty fcker.

            "So what if a guy threw a shoe at me!"

            by FoodChillinMFr on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 01:56:39 PM PST

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            •  Mental Health Is One Part (4+ / 0-)

              No one denies that, but there's another part and it has to do with the easy access to guns that these people have.

              I don't have all the answers, but I have heart enough to start looking for them. You apparently think everything is just fine.

              You can't screen every mentally ill person in this country, but YOU can screen everyone who wants to buy a gun and make sure they are NOT mentally ill (or try your best to do so).

              No one needs a gun NOW or so quickly they can't be screened first.

              The first step to solving a problem is recognizing it.

              You're already throwing up your hands and saying it can't be done.

              You're guns are more important to you than the lives of these kids.

              This shooter should NEVER have had access to these guns. NEVER.

              This post is dedicated to myself, without whom, I'd be somebody else. Though I'd still be an asshole. My Music: [http://www.myspace.com/beetwasher]

              by Beetwasher on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 02:00:00 PM PST

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            •  Here's what we do (2+ / 0-)
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              Beetwasher, Marc in KS

              talk about it and start pushing back against the rhetoric of violence to build a quorum against easy access to guns.

              Elect representatives who will appoint and confimr sane judges and justices.

              If need be, abolish the second amendment and make sure that anyone who has a gun has PROVEN they are responsible and capable to handle it.

              It starts with making the case and convincing others

              Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

              by Mindful Nature on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 03:31:41 PM PST

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          •  I think you're proving his point. (0+ / 0-)

            If the only idea is for us to discuss this, maybe he's right.

            •  Discussion Is The Start (0+ / 0-)

              Not the end.  Those who believe, like that poster, that there's nothing we can do and therefore shouldn't even bother and just have to deal with it, are selfish and stupid.

              It STARTS with discussion. There ARE solutions. To deny that is sick. To insist we have to live with it is crazy. And to love you're right to have a gun more than the lives of these kids is disgusting and selfish.

              This post is dedicated to myself, without whom, I'd be somebody else. Though I'd still be an asshole. My Music: [http://www.myspace.com/beetwasher]

              by Beetwasher on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 02:32:33 PM PST

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              •  i hate guns. (1+ / 0-)
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                Pete Cortez

                But i think he's right - there's nothing we can do. If you have zero ideas yourself, how can you insist that there is one?

                •  Bullshit, I Have PLENTY OF Ideas (0+ / 1-)
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                  Mindful Nature

                  Mental health screening and longer waiting periods for ALL Gun purchases, for starters...Limits on the number of guns you can purchase etc. Will those work? They could, but it STARTS with discussion.

                  There's nothing we can do? You're full of shit. You love guns, don't piss up my leg and tell me it's raining.

                  This post is dedicated to myself, without whom, I'd be somebody else. Though I'd still be an asshole. My Music: [http://www.myspace.com/beetwasher]

                  by Beetwasher on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 02:42:06 PM PST

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                  •  No, those ideas won't stop someone (1+ / 0-)
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                    Pete Cortez

                    From killing kids like this. They are ideas, but they're not ideas that work.

                    •  You are dead and empty, sick and diseased (0+ / 1-)
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                      Mindful Nature

                      as is evidenced by your complete lack of motivation to even attempt a solution.

                      I will not hold back my true feelings for cretins such as you any longer.  You throw everything you have in the way of sanity to protect your guns, even at the expense of these sweet innocents.

                      You disgust me.

                      This post is dedicated to myself, without whom, I'd be somebody else. Though I'd still be an asshole. My Music: [http://www.myspace.com/beetwasher]

                      by Beetwasher on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 03:08:01 PM PST

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        •  Banning worked so well with drugs & (1+ / 0-)
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          liquor, it's just bound to solve the problem of violence if we ban guns.

          Sure.

          Believe that all you want.
          Ignore the real problem.
          Don't even admit there's mental illness involved here.

          Just give in to your fears and wants first and foremost, and
          "to hell with the gun nuts".

          The guy who shot up that school wasn't a gun nut. He was a nut with a gun. There's a huge difference, just like there's a huge difference between Pat Robertson's followers and real Christians.

          But of course, this is not the time to discuss reality or the refusal of this entire nation to address its attitude toward mental illness, because it's so much easier to run in circles and scream GUNS GUNS GUNS BAN BAN BAN.

          LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

          by BlackSheep1 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 01:46:20 PM PST

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          •  I wasn't suggesting banning guns. (0+ / 0-)

            My point was that "if you can't ban guns, then you've got nothin'.  Meaning, any talk of gun control right now is a little crazy, cause it aint happening.

            "So what if a guy threw a shoe at me!"

            by FoodChillinMFr on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 02:00:38 PM PST

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            •  What's Crazy Is Doing Nothing (7+ / 0-)

              That is fucking crazy. No one said ban all guns. But you can't begin the journey to take steps to make sure access to guns is MUCH MORE REGULATED, in addition to improving access to MH services.

              We will never completely stop gun violence, but we can try to move in the right direction.

              Not doing so is fucking nuts. And heartless. To say we can't do anything is, quite frankly disgusting and selfish.

              This post is dedicated to myself, without whom, I'd be somebody else. Though I'd still be an asshole. My Music: [http://www.myspace.com/beetwasher]

              by Beetwasher on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 02:06:14 PM PST

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              •  I'll say it. Ban all guns. (2+ / 0-)
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                One doesn't have to be mentally ill at the time they purchase a gun. But all people have the capacity for anger. Serious anger. When I was a young adult, it was the late '60's. I, along with all those who demonstrated against the war, was a peacenik. I couldn't even imagine myself striking out at another person. Fast forward to the early '80's. My husband (now ex), knowing my strong feelings against it, took my 3 year old daughter for a ride on his motorcycle. He had a helmet. She was wearing a t-shirt, shorts, and sandals, and no helmet. When they got back, I went after him with a small limb from a tree. That's when I realized that I was capable of homicide. I really wanted to kill him. Just don't get between this mother and the safety of her child. Was I crazy? Absolutely! If I had had a gun, he would have been a dead man. And, no, I'm not mentally ill.

          •  Works in other places (2+ / 0-)
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            Beetwasher, popsnet

            I'm always amazed at the ability of American to a) look at a problem, b) look at the SOLUTIONS other have implemented and c) reach the conclusion that there's no solution to the problem.

            Maybe teachingelementary logic in schools might work.

            Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

            by Mindful Nature on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 03:33:43 PM PST

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          •  It's more than guns (2+ / 0-)
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            popsnet, kirbybruno

            We need to look at our entire society, which is extremely violent.

            We promote violence, we glory in it -- look at football, we teach children to play it from the earliest years. We have the largest military in the world, with no signs of being willing to reduce it anywhere. Our advertising industry promotes fast, macho cars and sneers at people who drive slower, less flashy means of transport.

            We invade ancient societies on trumped-up "evidence," then procede to elect for another term the people responsible for the carnage. We are violent, misogynistic, tough, rough, and uncaring of the rights and feelings of others.

            If we were willing to do some honest introspection, we might have a chance of addressing the overwhelming tide of guns that threatens to drown and destroy what passes for civilized society in this country.

            The truth is rarely pure and never simple. -- Oscar Wilde

            by Mnemosyne on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 03:49:39 PM PST

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          •  Don't ban all. (1+ / 0-)
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            Beetwasher

            Regulate most, ban those designed to kill people.

            That used to be what we did. Nobody thought it was crazy, then.

            --

            Republicans chap my ass

            Me

            by Marc in KS on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 04:54:44 PM PST

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    •  How bout making anyone (12+ / 0-)

      who wants to keep/buy any guns besides a limited number of hunting rifles join "a well regulated militia", gee, I dunno, like the National Guard? Anyone else caught with a gun gets a arrested, fined/jailed, and their weapons confiscated.

    •  We've raised three kids to have (3+ / 0-)

      no interest in guns. What a dumb thing to like or enjoy - a device designed to kill things. If we all raise our children to see guns for the horrible things they are, we are doing something to help prevent this from happening again.

    •  it has to start.. (1+ / 0-)
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      Beetwasher

      Sometime. Reducing the amount of weapons in any way possible is surely a good thing for the future. Right now, Improving the health and well-being would save far more lives than a gun law.

    •  WRONG (0+ / 0-)

      He had a .223 Bushmaster and he had high capacity clips.

  •  perhaps the conversation starts (18+ / 0-)

    with precisely where your diary starts: the attempt to imagine what it would feel like to suffer such loss.

    Because let's face it: we are a nation that overwhelmingly refuses to imagine the losses we inflict on other children, other parents, other siblings, other human beings. We are willing to put up with -- no, even promote, even actively glorify -- violence upon "other" children that would make us retch and lose the will to live if it happened to our own children.

    Ask an Iraqi. Ask a Pakistani. Ask a Palestinian. Hell, ask a kid in Philadelphia. Or at least imagine asking them. And consider asking them not in the middle of an argument with an NRA supporter, but imagine asking them about their pain the next time a Democrat justifies drone strikes and air wars as "regrettable but necessary for a larger good."

  •  I'm not too old to remember kindergarten (12+ / 0-)

    I went to kindergarten from 1956 to 1957.

    The tragedy that happened today would have been unthinkable back then.

    I don't for one moment suggest that we turn back the clock wholesale to that era (plenty was wrong in the 50s that we are well rid of) but we as a nation must do whatever we can to make schools as safe as they were when I was as young as your twins are now. We need to deal with our addiction to gun violence; those who enable it need to be shamed into silence and their stranglehold over our political system MUST end now.

    •  How about we "deal with our addiction" to turning (1+ / 0-)
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      Onomastic

      a blind eye to mental illness?

      How about we "deal with our addiction" to ignoring the danger signs in cases like Loughner's and Cho's?

      How about we "deal with our addiction" to lazy dependence on magical thinking?

      LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

      by BlackSheep1 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 01:48:10 PM PST

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      •  Did Someone Say We Should Ignore Mental Health? (5+ / 0-)
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        rigcath, my pet rock, Matt Z, kl5, sfbob

        One could approach this issue on several fronts, more common sense gun control AND more funding and attention to MH issues.

        BTW, I happen to WORK in MH services, so you're preaching to the choir here, but it IS possible to walk and chew gum at the same time.

        No one is saying we should the MH issues involved here.

        This post is dedicated to myself, without whom, I'd be somebody else. Though I'd still be an asshole. My Music: [http://www.myspace.com/beetwasher]

        by Beetwasher on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 01:52:02 PM PST

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      •  Compare handgun deaths (11+ / 0-)

        in the rest of the civilized universe to those in the United States, then get back to me.  You are being a complete jerk to this diarist.

        •  No. I'm respecting American citizens who (0+ / 0-)

          unlike Lanza, Cho, Loughner, Page, Holmes, Bales, Hasan, Howells, and those thugs in Columbine, do not become terrorists or murderers.

          Even though they have and own and use firearms, just like the Constitution says they can.

          LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

          by BlackSheep1 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 02:04:38 PM PST

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          •  Those Citizens Right To Handguns ENDS When (11+ / 0-)

            it interferes with my kids right to live and pursue happiness.

            End of story. This is NOT just a MH issue (though it is that). It IS a gun contorl issue and to deny that is fucking crazy and selfish.

            This post is dedicated to myself, without whom, I'd be somebody else. Though I'd still be an asshole. My Music: [http://www.myspace.com/beetwasher]

            by Beetwasher on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 02:08:40 PM PST

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            •  Fucking crazy and selfish? (0+ / 0-)

              No.
              Just disagreeing with you.

              LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

              by BlackSheep1 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 02:26:05 PM PST

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              •  No, Fucking Crazy And Selfish (0+ / 0-)

                Because you believe we can't do anything. You're not even willing to try, or think about solutions.

                This post is dedicated to myself, without whom, I'd be somebody else. Though I'd still be an asshole. My Music: [http://www.myspace.com/beetwasher]

                by Beetwasher on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 02:27:21 PM PST

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                •  Oh? You've checked my history? Or you're (0+ / 0-)

                  just trying to put words in my keyboard?

                  I never said we can't do anything. I said, and I repeat, banning guns won't solve this problem.

                  Solving this problem means making real changes to our approaches, in this country, to schools, for a start, and to mental health needs for another step, and to how we treat criminals as well.

                   We need to stop creating, operating, relying on and feeling good about big warehouses full of kids and then advertising to the universe that nobody present in that warehouse or its immediate surroundings is armed or otherwise enabled to defend those children, or their teachers / administrators / nurses / visitors.

                  We need to stop ignoring warning signs and letting "troubled individuals" (21st century speak for enraged lunatics, but I digress) slip through the cracks.

                  We need to stop celebrating, in some macabre way, the achievements of mass murderers. They are, first and foremost, criminals. They deserve neither notoriety nor copycats.

                  LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

                  by BlackSheep1 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 03:20:47 PM PST

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          •  What are YOU and the NRA doing about mental (1+ / 0-)
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            health issues? You see it as the only problem, not access to guns. So, wouldn't it be useful for the NRA and the rest of the die-hard gun enthusiasts (which I think are actually addicts) to start putting some of those big coffers toward building and funding mental health facilities?

            I don't see the NRA or RKBA doing any mental health advocacy.

            It seems you would want to do that to protect your ability to carry your gun.

            "If you don't sin, then Jesus died for nothing!" (on a sign at a Mardi Gras parade in New Orleans)

            by ranger995 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 03:36:24 PM PST

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  •  This is what it means to be controlled by a (2+ / 0-)

    plutocracy.  To give corporations citizenship and make that citizenship priviledged beyond any meaningful control.

    The reasons that we don't seriously address problems let alone try to effectively deal with them all come down to two words: wealth and power.  Nothing else has value unless it doesn't significantly interfer with the increase in wealth and power for the plutocrats.

  •  I know (8+ / 0-)

    I came home from a walk this afternoon, found out about it, and had to go out again ten minutes later to get my just-turned-six first-grader off the bus.  Even at a distance it crushes my heart.

  •  I spent all day today volunteering at school (13+ / 0-)

    Oh, Beetwasher.  I know exactly how you feel.  Every Friday I volunteer in the first grade class my twin nephews are in & in the kindergarten class a girl I babysat from age 4 months on is in.  And I keep thinking about all those kids & their teachers & the staff - & how it was kids & people just like them who were killed.

    I can't be rational today - I am too angry & too heartbroken.  I want European gun laws & I want them now. I am tired of us having shooting events like this over & over again all so the NRA's twisted version of the Second Amendment can be protected. I believe in lots of rights (I'm still pissed about the Patriot Act & all of us being spied on constantly) but people's rights to own guns, LOTS of guns, & all the ammo they want, & often in places with little to no oversight is a danger to the rest of us - & it has got to fucking stop.  Now.

    You can lose the Republic on an installment plan every bit as efficiently as you can with a coup d'etat. Bruce Fein, Censure Hearings, March 31, 2006

    by SadieSue on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 01:53:27 PM PST

  •  My boy's in first grade (9+ / 0-)

    and my daughter's in middle school. I used to be bothered by leaving them at school but had to learn to trust that everything would work out OK.

    In infinitesimally rare cases, that sometimes is not the case. The worst fears are sometimes realized.

    I had kids later in life, so I'm very cynical about there being any constructive response to this tragedy. Nothing happened after Columbine. Nothing happens after tragedy upon tragedy upon tragedy. Yes this case is unique for the unimaginable vulnerability of the youngest of the young. But even that won't prevent the machine from functioning the way it's been built. Already the engines are revving up. Focus on the assailant, wide eyed questioning of how a person could be so evil, no accounting for how the weaponry came into the shooter's possession, and silence from local and federal politicians about doing anything meaningful that might impinge on people's violent fantasy lives.

    Today I feel past anger, except for my anger at Markos for having created a haven here for Second Amendment Fetishists who in due time will make their presence felt in order to muddy debate and generally drive people away from even engaging in debate. This site has become part of the problem, and considering Markos' recent posting of his two young kids, he needs to reflect on what that's all about.

  •  I have twins in pre-school (2+ / 0-)
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    Beetwasher, Smoh

    thank you for the amazing diary for those of us that have no words.

    Javelin, Jockey details, all posts, discontinue

    by jam on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 02:20:05 PM PST

  •  I have a little girl (2+ / 0-)
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    And I can't even imagine. I can't let myself go there.

    I've tried to make my peace with the Second Amendment. I'm done. There is no possible benefit from gun ownership to society or to Americans as individuals - none - that outweighs 18 dead kindergarteners.

    I don't care if people think I'm extreme or wildly unrealistic about this. I want full repeal of the Second Amendment. I want the jackbooted Feds to take your guns away. Call me what you will - I don't care. I'm done.

    I think about my little girl, and I just can't imagine.

  •  My feelings exactly. (1+ / 0-)
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    Beetwasher

    I just talked with my daughter, mother of my almost 4 year old grandson.  She was in a state of disbelief.  Every parent of a child is hugging that child a little closer tonight.

    The that might have been my child is, I hope making a lot of people think about how we can limit mass shootings like this one.

    Sorry, folks, but right now you can take your guns and shove them.  

    Hell, yes, we need gun control.   We need to take guns that act like machine guns off the market and make them illegal.  We need to outlaw gun sales without extensive background checks everywhere including gun shows.  

    We can start, let me rephrase that by saying that we can ONLY start this conversation when the NRA has been neutered.

    We can start this conversation when we as a society stop glorifying guns.  Cue above said about the NRA.

     

  •  This hits close to home (8+ / 0-)

    I have a 5 year old daughter, who is the absolute light of my life. When she got off the bus today, I just picked her up and hugged her for-according to her-"two million minutes".

    I worked for a health center that served the Greater Danbury area-including Sandy Hook. Mostly in peds. Some of these children may have been my patients. I'm dreading the release of names.

    I had an hour long commute to that job, so for a while I was looking into buying a home in the area. Sandy Hook was one of the places I looked. It is such a peaceful little town, I just fell in love with it. I was disappointed that I couldn't find anything in my price range.

    But for the grace of god and high property values...my daughter could have been a kindergartener at that school this year.

    We must give this meaning...yes. What form that should take, I don't know...for now, I just can't stop crying.

    You must work-we must all work-to make a world that is worthy of its children -Pablo Casals Please support TREE Climbers for victims of child sexual abuse and exploitation.

    by SwedishJewfish on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 02:25:00 PM PST

  •  The 16th Street Baptist Church bombing catalyzed (2+ / 0-)
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    the Civil Rights era, I look at the faces of those four girls, and their spirit and innocence shines through to this day.
       Today is as horrible, as horrific, with more loss and deafening grief to follow, as that day 49 years ago.  There is as great a lesson to be learned from today.
       A tidal wave of grief is sweeping a whole community with it, in the middle of Advent, with preparations for Christmas underway.
       We owe it to those who were taken today to do whatever is necessary to make our country a safer,saner place.

  •  A lot of people calling each other A-holes and MF- (0+ / 0-)

    -ers on Kos today, I know people are hurting, but maybe save the invective for people who truly deserve it.

  •  Stepped out of the room for ten minutes (3+ / 0-)

    today and came back greeted to the sight of my 8 year old daughter with her arms squeezing the life out of the dog watching coverage of this in wide eyed horror. The UK has its problem but at least I don't have to worry about this. Having to try and explain this to my daughter was awful enough, I simply cannot fucking imagine what those people are going through.

    "I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your fuckin' mouth." --- Bill Hicks

    by voroki on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 02:55:47 PM PST

  •  You had me at "Twin Boys in Kindergarten"... (2+ / 0-)
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    My twin boys are in 5th grade now but the feeling is the same.
    Thank you for your simple but powerful diary.

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    I screwed up with a careless uprate so I'm a "No Rate" pariah. When I give a comment "+1 n/t", please consider that a recommend. (That's my workaround to participate here). DK haiku, one complete thought in a title field. Roar louder! NR since 3/7/12.

    by Josiah Bartlett on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 02:59:51 PM PST

  •  My gurlies (1+ / 0-)
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    the two youngest, are in grade one and grade two. My older ones are in high school and University.

    I would be like you. Completely lost.
    I just think of those parents and want to cry.
    I cannot fathom the level of sickness that would compel someone to do an act like this.

    Fuddle Duddle--- Pierre Trudeau.... Canadian politics at......A Creative Revolution

    by pale cold on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 03:02:11 PM PST

  •  I don't think it's appropriate... (0+ / 0-)

    to say you have children and would "die on the spot" if this happened to them.

    When others experience loss, it's not appropriate to shout how you still have yours or opine on how you might react if similar tragedy befell you. It seems very self-serving.

  •  'Preciate The Reclist Everyone (0+ / 0-)

    And if I'm being an asshole to some who don't get it, I'll hope you'll forgive me under the circumstances.  I think this hits close to home for a lot of is.

    And frankly, I am an asshole, it ain't like I never warned you.

    This post is dedicated to myself, without whom, I'd be somebody else. Though I'd still be an asshole. My Music: [http://www.myspace.com/beetwasher]

    by Beetwasher on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 03:55:53 PM PST

  •  I, personally, (1+ / 0-)
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    am really fucking sick of people going "oh, it's too soon to talk about it" every time something like this happens.

    Oh, we NEED to talk about it. We can't keep turning a blind eye to this shit. We absolutely, positively, cannot let this go. I'm sick of tuning into the news and hearing about a shooting nearly every damn week.

    To those saying there's nothing that can be done, that's not true.

    We CAN do something about this. While a 100% outright ban on all guns isn't possible, we can at the very least take steps to making our country safer. Things like background checks on people who want to buy a gun, and banning automatic and semi-automatic rifles. No one needs a damn assault rifle or an Uzi, for fuck's sake. And if you want a gun so badly, prove that you're mentally competent and stable enough to HAVE one.

    We need to make a stand. Organize, protest, speak out. Put pressure on our elected officials to make change happen.

    I can only hope this unspeakable, horrifying tragedy will finally, FINALLY shock us all into action.

    "Freedom comes at the price of eternal vigilance."

    by Liberal Heretic on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 01:18:30 AM PST

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