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How many times do we have to hear this defense of gun ownership?

This is bullshit

Guns do kill. Guns kill daily. People may pull the trigger, but the gun does the killing. How can anyone think otherwise? What sort of disconnect happens within the minds of folks spouting this crap?

And to the gun-hoarding, Constitution-loving, Red, White and Blue American shouting “Second Amendment” every minute of every day? Well, fine. You can have as many muskets and black powder pistols as you want. Use the weapon of choice available when your favorite fucking document was crafted.

But no more automatic weapons. No more assault weapons. No weapons capable of holding more than a single round. Black powder, musket ball, wadding. That’s all you get. Nothing else.

Your Second Amendment rights don't trump the rights, or lives, of twenty young children. No matter how you try to spin it.

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  •  Tip Jar (3+ / 0-)
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    klamothe, Hugo Estrada, a2nite

    religion is the smile on a dog...

    by lbl1162 on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 12:59:11 PM PST

  •  Guns Don't Kill People (2+ / 0-)
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    klamothe, karma13612

    People with guns kill people

    ... is truly all the response You need to someone that makes that absurd comment

    "I want to keep them alive long enough that I can win them to Christ," - Rick Warren, Professional Greed Driven Scumbag

    by josephk on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 01:05:59 PM PST

  •  Guns don't kill people, gun owners do (2+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, Dr Erich Bloodaxe RN

    Lets give that one a try.

  •  "Right On!" (0+ / 0-)

    When I saw your header, I thought "I have to say something!" but then found that you think as I do!  I was going to say that when guns are easy to access, in our violence-driven culture with videos and games, etc., they can easily be used for ill.

  •  "and spoons make people fat." (0+ / 0-)

    "and spoons make me fat."

    What is the proper logical arguement when they say this?

    Minority rights should never be subject to majority vote.

    by lostboyjim on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 01:11:02 PM PST

  •  We got it all on UHF. (0+ / 0-)

    Seem to be using this one a lot recently.

    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 01:12:30 PM PST

  •  I argue it a little differently (0+ / 0-)

    Because the phrase before the comma was, well, written before the part about the "right to bear arms".

    A well regulated militia.

    Hmmm... what's the modern day equivalent of a well regulated militia?

    You want to own a gun? You have that right. Join the fucking U.S. Armed Forces.

    You will learn how to safely handle a firearm.
    You will learn how to safely store a firearm.
    You will learn how to safely transport a firearm.

    Then, when you have been properly "regulated", most hitches last for 4 years, you may submit to the background check and buy yourself a gun.

    If you hear someone being mugged, raped, beaten, or otherwise being wronged on or about your property, you may militarize or militia-ize yourself and take careful action as your training demands.

    When or if the country is attacked, you are compelled to take up your firearm and protect the nation against all enemies, foreign or domestic.

    Those are the conditions of gun ownership in Patriot4Peace Land.

    Not that anyone listens to me.

    We've been spelling it wrong all these years. It's actually: PRO-GOP-ANDA

    by Patriot4peace on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 01:16:23 PM PST

  •  Here's an example of guns killing people:(warning) (1+ / 0-)
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    cany

    3yr old gets a hold of uncle's gun and mistakenly shoots self in the head:
    http://www.newson6.com/...

    Just two days ago.

    Republicans: They hate us for our Freedom.

    by mikeconwell on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 01:19:38 PM PST

  •  Take the bullets out of the gun. Then no one (0+ / 0-)

    can use a gun to kill and the gun can't be fired.

    There. Fixed.

    202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

    by cany on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 01:24:18 PM PST

  •  Cars don't transport people. People do. n/t (0+ / 0-)
  •  It's a frame (0+ / 0-)

    to keep people from noticing the glaringly obvious fact right in front of them.

  •  It's a pedantic technically correct obfuscation (0+ / 0-)

    around the real issue.

    The fact is guns don't kill people. They can't, because they are inanimate objects.

    The idea is to hope that the person on the receiving end of this garbage argument is: a) too flabbergasted at the sheer stupidity it takes to advance that argument to be able to mount a coherent defense; b) is distracted into a semantics game or tangent issue about how other inanimate objects can be used--by people--to harm other people.

    "Guns kill people" is shorthand for "people can die from injuries caused by the impact from projectiles emitted from firearms." And gun-nuts know this. They are just of two camps: 1) those not bright enough to understand it; 2) those irrational, insane, or too-clever-by-half enough to not care, and think they are scoring a rhetorical win by deliberately ignoring how human beings use language and choosing to interpret the words "guns kill people" literally.

  •  FOLLOW THE MONEY (0+ / 0-)

    Who owns Colt, Remington, etc?

    How much do the CEOs make?

    Is he paid per death?

    Where have they spent their lobbying dollars?

    What about the financials on bullet makers?

    Where are these guns made? (Are any parts imported?)

    They all try to stay below the radar ... so let's bring them into the public spotlight.

    All web sites and news organizations should call them with interview requests. The attention will make them nervous.

    Check out the MONEY.

    A Southerner in Yankeeland

  •  Guns don't kill people... (1+ / 0-)
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    pgm 01

    ...it's those gosh-darn bullets.

  •  We Demand Mental Fitness exams (0+ / 0-)

    for Everyone applying for entrance to a Police Academy.

    Everyone Agrees that is a Wonderful Idea.

    Joe Average should Have to Pass the Same Exam to
    Purchase a Gun.

    Cost of Examination to Be Paid by the Purchaser.

    Examination Must include Fingerprints.

    Exam results stored in National Database for reference
    by Anyone selling a Gun.

    No Exemption for Gun show Sales.

    On Giving Advice: Smart People Don't Need It and Stupid People Don't Listen

    by Brian76239 on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 04:41:41 PM PST

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