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This is how they are finally defeating Obama's game of attempting to hamstring the opposition and keep Assad in power.

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On Sunday President Barack Obama said this about the children murdered it Newtown:

In the coming weeks, I’ll use whatever power this office holds to engage my fellow citizens, from law enforcement, to mental health professionals, to parents and educators, in an effort aimed at preventing more tragedies like this, because what choice do we have? We can’t accept events like this as routine.

Are we really prepared to say that we’re powerless in the face of such carnage, that the politics are too hard?

Are we prepared to say that such violence visited on our children year after year after year is somehow the price of our freedom?

The murder of twenty children in Newtown was a tragedy worthy of all the attention it has received.

More children than that are murdered everyday in Syria. This has been going on for more than a year now while the entire world sits on its hands and makes excuses for inaction.

So I think Obama posed the most fundamental human question for all of us, and for him, with regards to Syria, although I'm certain he didn't mean to apply to Syrian children.

Are we really prepared to say that we’re powerless in the face of such carnage, that the politics are too hard?

Expect extremely graphic documentation of child murders below the fold.  








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UPDATED: FSA says it killed Russian General in Syria
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UPDATED: Syrian prime minister defects
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BREAKING: Kofi Annan resigns as envoy to Syria
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BREAKING: Syrian Air Force attacks Douma, 10m from Damascus, thousands flee
BREAKING: As Syria Burns, UN Blows More Smoke
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  •  Tip Jar (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    nio, Garrett, condorcet

    Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

    by Clay Claiborne on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 06:51:09 PM PST

  •  No. We are not the policeman (15+ / 0-)

    of the world.  No American blood for Syria.

    Join us on the Black Kos front porch to review news and views written from a black pov—everyone is welcome.

    by TomP on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 07:05:09 PM PST

  •  So (3+ / 0-)

    When are your friends going to stop committing massacres and lying about it?

    FSA slaughters woman in children in Aqrab

    •  My friends don't commit massacres (0+ / 1-)
      Recommended by:
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      protectspice

      And there is another side to the Aqrab story. Nobody knows who massacred the people at Aqrab.

      See also Hassan Hassan's report:

      Story of a massacre tells of the Alawites caught in the middle

      ...
      The causes of this massacre still need to be independently investigated, but what evidence exists has grim lessons for minority groups and the area as a whole.
      ...
      An independent investigation could clear up a number of points, in particular whether those girls had been shot at close range, which might corroborate the charges against "Farzat". Without that proof, the witness account remains open to dispute.

      But Umm Ayham's video also sends another important message to the Syrian opposition. Alawites are often portrayed as invariably sticking with the regime for survival. This is not accurate. Many Alawites are caught in the middle, just as are so many others in Syrian society. Twenty-one months into the violence, Alawites were still living alongside Sunnis in Aqrab - something worth considering. The mediators were also from the village.

      In the video, Umm Ayham pleads with rebels to protect her from the pro-regime men, yet at the same time she fears the same men with whom she is pleading.

      There have been other videos released documenting events after the massacre, mostly showing women and children taken to a field hospital, and rebels reassuring Alawites that they are all "brothers" equally victimised by the regime.

      In one video recorded almost immediately after the massacre, another old woman and a young girl are taken by rebels to a field hospital. Although the rebels keep reassuring them, the old woman continues to plead with a bearded man to rescue her. The woman then seems scared as rebels shout "Allahu Akbar", God is great.

      It is noteworthy that neither the regime nor the political opposition has come forward to speak for the victims. More...

      Clearly this is a complex case and as yet it has not been well investigated.

      But you are sure who is responsible aren't you? You cite a pro-Assad source that is equally sure. That's why I say you are spreading pro-Assad propaganda in the comments to my diary.

      But the question I would really like you to answer is why are you bringing up this massacre and your conclusions about who is responsible in a comment to this diary. It sounds to me like you are trying to justify or distract from what Assad is doing to children.

      Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

      by Clay Claiborne on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 04:24:59 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  It occurred to me that no one would publish (14+ / 0-)

    the pictures of the dead children in Newtown on a site like this.  

    "The Global War on Terror is a justification for U.S. Imperialism. It must be stopped."

    by BigAlinWashSt on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 07:11:42 PM PST

    •  Why did the parents put these videos on the (0+ / 0-)

      Internet? Why did Emmet Till's mother demand an open casket funeral?

      They did it so that the deaths of their children won't be ignored. As  you have done.[or show me published results that say different]

      I occurred to me that the parents in Newtown don't have that problem.

      Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

      by Clay Claiborne on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 06:48:00 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  This diary is uncalled for. If we can't keep our (13+ / 0-)

    kids safe, how the hell can we help Syria?

    My sig was inappropriate at this time.

    by glorificus on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 07:13:19 PM PST

  •  you gonna ask about dronez next (2+ / 0-)
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    blueyedace2, LaurenMonica

    or what?  

    Ted Kennedy: “The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die…”

    by jlms qkw on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 07:15:01 PM PST

    •  Good point, i was thinking about adding that (0+ / 0-)

      Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

      by Clay Claiborne on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 07:44:44 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  176 children have been killed by US drone strikes (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Clay Claiborne

        in Pakistan since 2004 according to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism.

        http://eurekastreet.com.au/...
        A global perspective on American child deaths
        December 17, 2012

        'You come from a culture where it is okay to kill children,' the Iraqi woman said. We were sheltering against the wall of a building in Fallujah in April 2004 while the city was under attack by US forces.

        I began to protest, but she continued, in broken English: 'Let me say it another way. You come from a culture where your people think it is okay to kill our children.'
        ...
        The deaths of the Newtown children and of Pakistani children may both be the result of self-interested US political policy and an all-pervasive culture of violence. But there's one major difference that grieving parents in Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan and Gaza would point out.

        The Newtown killings are considered an act of someone who is 'sick' or 'mad', and are universally condemned. But their children are killed at the hands of an intelligent, sophisticated, technologically advanced society which is fully aware of what it is doing. These deaths receive little attention, let alone condemnation.
        ...

  •  President Obama Was Not Elected Or Appointed To (10+ / 0-)

    represent and/or defend the Syrian people.  Your attempted analogy doesn't work in any way.  

    Random deranged men are not killing Syrian children - for no reason.  Combatants are killing each other and there's lots of collateral damage and disproportionate, indiscriminate acts of retaliation that are mowing down Syrian children in the process of civil war - either for Assad or for freedom.  

    Your premise is off-base and offensive.

    •  Assad is doing the vast amount of killing (1+ / 0-)
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      majcmb1

      especially of children.

      And he is doing it from the air.

      The world is letting him kill children from the air with impunity.

      Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

      by Clay Claiborne on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 07:47:03 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  The World Doesn't Do Enough For Children (1+ / 0-)
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        erratic

        generally.  Among other things, every year 15M starve.

        Your well-written and informative diary series on Syria's civil war makes your passion clear on the subject.  Although I haven't read them all, in those I have read you've previously made Assad's crimes against his own people, including women and children, clear.  But IMO this diary is not up to your usual more straightforward standard.

  •  That helps. ugh (2+ / 0-)
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    TomP, SoCaliana

    "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

    by LaurenMonica on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 07:36:19 PM PST

  •  Incorrect analogy (8+ / 0-)

    Lets maintain our focus on the issue at hand.  Don' t try to lump together unrelated issues.  Of course it is a tragedy what is going on in Syria.  But it is another issue.  I am not clear yet on how we can help in Syria.  I doubt there is much political will for yet another war.

    "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

    by noofsh on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 07:38:31 PM PST

  •  How many battles... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    erratic

    do you want President Obama to fight at one time?

    Right now, at this particular point in time, there is a small window of opportunity to actually get something done to help reduce the possibility of future tragedies such as the recent event in Newtown, CT.

    I read most of your diaries because you obviously have more knowledge of the Mid-East than I do and I occasionally learn something new by reading them. Not always, but occasionally :-)

    But for now, could you simply get off the President's back for a change and let him deal with this issue in his own way?

  •  Children with guns does not bode well for Syria (1+ / 0-)
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    BigAlinWashSt

    A replay of Af/Pak.

    •  And your solution is to do nothing? (0+ / 0-)

      Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

      by Clay Claiborne on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 06:50:24 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  My solution would have been not to militarize (0+ / 0-)

        the peaceful protestors using foreign fighters, weapons and money at the beginning. It is too late now.

        The US, NATO, Turkey, the Saudi's and Qatar have been working diligently behind the scenes to stoke the flames and foment much of the strife.

        Al Jazeera journalists quit channel citing bias on Syria coverage

        Everyone thought Assad would have fallen months ago - "It's not a matter of months but weeks". Even you were confident of Assad's fall. BTW, American 'gunboat diplomacy' only serves to exacerbate the situation.

        What most refuse to acknowledge or even speak of is that the Assad regime is not a one-man show and there is considerable support for the regime within Syria. The majority of the Syrian want BOTH the FSA and the SAA out.

        BTW, you have yet to answer my post about what you want in Syria.

        http://truth-out.org/...
        Charles Glass on Syria’s Mutual Destruction and the Unconvincing Fears of Assad’s Chemical Weapons

        Veteran journalist Charles Glass joins us to discuss his recent trip to Syria and its largest city, Aleppo.
        ...
        CHARLES GLASS: Aleppo is the economic center of Syria. ...But it is a city that is, in and of itself, now divided between those who want the regime to remain and those who want to destroy the regime, with a large number of people in the middle who would rather see both sides go away and see the war end so they can resume their lives.
        ...
        Sergey Lavrov: [translated] You can demand Assad’s resignation forever, but the war is continuing. And our American colleagues—we met with Hillary Clinton in Dublin three days ago, as well as with the U.N. and Arab League special envoy, Lakhdar Brahimi, who acts as a mediator in the Syrian conflict—they offered that we hold a special expert meeting on the deputy foreign minister’s level, along with Lakhdar Brahimi, for a brainstorming session. We said we would be ready, under one condition: that the basis of such brainstorming sessions will be formed by the Geneva document without any additions, without any ultimatums, without any preconditions, like President Assad’s resignation.
        ...
        Charles Glass:  I think you mean the Syrian National Coalition, of which the Syrian National Council is a small part. The Syrian National Coalition has been recognized by much of the groups that are—they call themselves the "Friends of Syria," including the United States. This is meant to be an umbrella group that embraces just about everyone. However, the fighting forces on the ground refuse to recognize it, from—basically from the day that it was announced in Qatar. So it’s not—it’s not having much influence on the ground. It’s going to be seen, I assume, as another exile group without strong roots in the country, which often happens when the West decides to use people to intervene in a third-world country.
        ...
        Charles Glass:  Well, he and many of his colleagues, who were at the forefront of the peaceful demonstrations at the beginning of the rebellion in 2011, are in despair at the way the opposition has become purely violent, and that those who were willing to risk of being tortured and arrested and having their families arrested and being shot at in the streets, willing to risk all that, against a regime that is so powerfully armed that it could not be easily defeated without bringing destruction to the entire country. So they—they still try to have peaceful demonstrations, which the regime controls and puts down, but they’re not—they see that their tactics have become irrelevant, because what is going on now is a civil war, in which neither side is winning, in which the great majority of the population is suffering to no benefit.
        ...

  •  Clay, what should Obama do in Syria? (0+ / 0-)

    From your diaries it appears you want the Max Boot policy.

    http://www.cfr.org/...
    What Should U.S. Policy Be in Syria?
    December 12, 2012

    Introduction

    Debate is intensifying over how the United States should respond to Syria's escalating crisis. In recent days, Washington has formally recognized the Syrian opposition coalition, but thus far has refrained from providing rebel forces with direct military support. CFR's Max Boot says Washington needs "to get off the sidelines" and build a coalition of allies to enforce a Libya-style no-fly zone. The New American Foundation's Brian Fishman notes U.S. military intervention is unlikely to produce a stable Syrian government post-conflict, and recommends a patient approach of training and modestly arming rebels. CFR's Ed Husain says Washington should avoid inserting itself directly in the twenty-one-month old conflict, a move that would jeopardize the credibility of the rebellion. The Washington's Institute's Andrew Tabler says the United States should transition from its covert "light footprint" support for armed Syrian opposition to overt outreach to non-extremist groups in the Free Syrian Army, including the provision of arms.

  •  First of all, get rid of the hash tags. (0+ / 0-)

    It makes look like an attention junkie--which I happen to think you are, but why make that judgment so easy?  

    Second, of course it doesn't--that's why we have countries, so what you say about your own doesn't bind you to something about the others.  Heck, most of us aren't even convinced Obama means it about his own country.

    Personally I'd drop a huge bomb on Syria's presidential palace before the end of this sentence, but I don't think it's some overwhelming moral imperative of the US, and given our history we're probably the last country (well, after Israel, given the target!) that should be doing it.  Why does it always, always have to be us?  Turkey has an air force.

    You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

    by Rich in PA on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 04:21:11 AM PST

    •  I use hash tags because I'm an attantion junkie (0+ / 0-)

      I want to throw as much light on what is happening in Syria as possible and that's what you are really complaining about.

      Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

      by Clay Claiborne on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 06:53:16 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  If you want to shine a light on what is happening (0+ / 0-)

        in Syria, at least shine it everywhere. There are many factors at play and you have chosen to highlight just a portion. That is very misleading. Hundreds of children have also been killed by the actions of the FSA. What is going on is a civil war. In civil wars, it is the ordinary citizen who suffers the most.

        So, you want Obama to do something. Please tell us what this is (but also consider the long term ramification of such actions).

        Until then stop bitching about what you think he is not doing.

        •  This is an uprising against a dictatorship (0+ / 0-)

          Yes, it has necessarily turned into a civil war because Assad used his military to suppress protests against his rule.

          Remember the FSA is mainly made up of SAA soldiers who refuse orders to fire on civilians and dedicated themselves to protecting civilians while Assad has adopted the tactic of creating human carnage so as to get people to give up the fight against his rule.

          That is the main thing that has been going on in Syria for two years.

          Yes, the armed opposition has made mistakes. How could it be otherwise in the real world? Although I doubt your claim that they have killed hundreds of children whereas I have no doubt that Assad has killed thousands of children because close to 50k have been killed, Assad has the vast  majority of the heavy weapons and he is the only one delivering cluster bombs to neighborhoods and other forms of "death from above."

          And yes, there are many other factors and outside influences involved. How could it be difference in the real world.

          But that should not allow us to ignore what the root of the problem is or pretend that there is the Assad regime on the one hand, and some equally evil FSA on the other, with innocent Syrians in the middle being victimize by both sides.

          Although I still don't fathoms what it is about that two bad actors scenario that makes it okay for us to sit back and let the children be slaughtered, as you seem to insist we do.

          But the bottom line is that simply is  not the case!

          Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

          by Clay Claiborne on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 06:30:28 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

  •  Though I do appreciate your passion, I for one (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
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    would truly appreciate not being surprised when I open any diary on Daily Kos to find a number of graphic visuals of human beings ravaged by violence, be they young or old, by anyone, anywhere.

    Yes, it is important for us to know about; tell us and provide links for those who care to see them?

    Your posting of these graphic images without warning is a violent act in itself.

    Please refrain.

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