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Ok..... this could be the Onion but it's not...

According to the Israeli On-line Daily Ynet:

Iran's Press TV website quoted Michael Harris, former Republican candidate for governor of Arizona and GOP campaign finance chairman, as saying that "An Israeli death squad was involved in the Sandy Hook shooting."

According to the report, Harris called the Newtown tragedy a "terrorist attack," adding that it was "Israel's revenge" and that it was meant to "teach the US lesson," following the Palestinian's status upgrade in the UN.

According to the report, the shooter, Adam Lazna, was meant to be the scapegoat.

But here let's let Press T.V. explain what "Security Analyst" Mike Harris had to say:
During his interview today, Mike Harris explained his rationale for looking to Israel as responsible for Sandy Hook, saying “This is exactly what Israel did in Norway; the political party that voted sanctions against Israel was retaliated against by a “lone gunman” who killed 77 children. This is what Israel always does, they go after the children. It is what they do in Gaza every day. It is what was done in Norway. It is what happened at Sandy Hook. Nobody buys the “lone gunman” story anymore, not with the Gabby Giffords’ shooting, not with the Aurora “Batman” shooting, certainly not with Breveik, and certainly not in Connecticut.”

After Harris’ broadcast, key members of the military and law enforcement community contacted Veterans Today in full support of Harris’ analysis.

One three star general is quoted as saying, “Harris hit the nail right on the head and it is about time someone spoke up.”

Of course one need wonder why Mike Harris a failed Republican candidate but also former head of the G.O.P's campaign finance committee in Arizona (which tells you something about Republicans in AZ and Republican candidates in general), was even contacted for an interview with Iranian T.V. I guess when trying to get info. for a story picks anti-Semite and conspiracy whack Gordon Duff of Veterans Today to publish pieces citing these people as "authorities" on American policy.

The importance of this is here, while we laugh off, the excesses of the Lunatic Fringe (even though a few here do quote Veterans Today while the admins. look the other way), they are getting major play in other parts of the world and on Nations major networks. Press TV is not some small time outfit in Iran. People take it seriously there. It's not just Veterans Today either. It is insanity on both the Left and the Right that gets play in the International Press and sometimes at home. And yes, while sometimes - VERY RARELY - they get something right, they are simply illegitimate sources for "real" news.

In the world of Tehran and it's supporters, who number in the millions of people around the world, people like Michael Harris (who has appeared with Neo-Nazi's and supported all kinds of nutty things), and Gordon Duff are legitimate sources of information.

As is said: "Information is Power". It is and when we get it, it is important to understand what is being conveyed. Of course, Press is going to get loons like Harris and Duff for their information. They merely reinforce the meme that Iran wants to perpetrate. They want to blame Israel for everything so is it a surprise that they try to hang this one on Israel as well. BUT, as consumers of news it is important that we understand what is being peddled. Same as information coming from FOX. One pretty much needs to triple check their sources to see if the story is true. One difference though between FOX and Press TV... That is that Press TV is a semi-official source of information and reflects the Governments thinking in Iran while FOX is the media arm of a political group that got beaten like a drum in the last election.

Originally posted to volleyboy1 on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 04:48 PM PST.

Also republished by Team Shalom.

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  •  Where is our Rush and our Loonies like this one? (2+ / 0-)
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    Judge Moonbox, Hey338Too

    Thanks for this post from bizarro land.

    You know, I am sick and tired of the perception that Dems, Progressives (extreme ones like myself)- come across as docile and weak.. and indeed perhaps we are.

    This is especially critical now- The election made it very clear that we had mandates. A decimated middle class, an exploding elderly population, joblessness- all the while the plutocratic classes are sucking us dry.

    Where is our Rush Limbaugh? Where is our well-known, know-it-all, belligerent, mouthy asshole to spew OUR venom? Oh, we're too refined and polished for such things. Well, we damn well better unlearn the etiquette and get down and dirty in the gutter like the Gene Hackman lines in Mississippi Burning.

    And when will our politicians stand up and say "basta con este 'reach across the aisle' bullshit? Think this is the time to worry about debt and applying austerity? Fuck you.

    Where are the progressive, assertive, assaulting loonies espousing bullshit like the schmuck in this story? 'Cause loonies to us make since to these idiots AND get media attention. We need our own loonies.

    When will we have our own news media outlets so we can spew that it is an abomination to God, and they will burn in hell's fires if they disavow women's control over their own bodies?

    When will we have fringes aggressively saying that anyone not in favor of gun control is a redneck, inferior, America-hater and should be banned from the country?

    And the aged, medicare, soc sec? we owe them a fight.

    We better go on the assault. We're in a class war here.

    Sorry for the rant- just pissed here.

  •  I'm confused. Did Harris actually say this or (0+ / 0-)

    did Press TV just say he said it ?

    The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy;the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness

    by CTMET on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 06:05:29 PM PST

    •  Link to Israeli reporting about Iranian news (1+ / 0-)
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      volleyboy1

      reporting.

      Never forget that anti-Semitism runs very deep in many parts of the world. Rabid, crazy and widespread even among people you'd imagine should know better.

      http://www.timesofisrael.com/...

      SNIPPET:
      . . . . an American journalist told Iranian Press TV on Tuesday.
      snip

      The horrific massacre at a Connecticut elementary school last week was a “revenge killing in the United States sponsored by Israel” in response to international support for the Palestinians at the United Nations last month, an American journalist told Iranian Press TV on Tuesday.

      Michael Harris, the financial editor at Veterans Today, a website littered with anti-Semitic and anti-Israel conspiracy theories, charged in an internationally broadcast interview on the Iranian station that “Israel has been operating death squads.” Harris, a former Republican gubernatorial candidate in Arizona, used the interview as a soapbox for an anti-Semitic rant against Israel and American Jews.

      His statements were then featured as the headline of the video published on YouTube and on the news site’s homepage.
      snip
      Zionist-controlled Hollywood” and the “Zionist-controlled news media” act as a “conduit to all this violence” in the United States that manifests itself in deadly shootings, according to Harris.

  •  This is just disgusting (2+ / 0-)
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    volleyboy1, MBNYC

    Jew-hating loons . . .

  •  Of course we'll never hear a rethug... (1+ / 0-)
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    volleyboy1

    ... repudiate this man for inventing such vile lies.  Absolutely sickening crap.

    I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

    by Hey338Too on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 07:44:58 PM PST

  •  Yes it's stupid (1+ / 0-)
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    swarf

    But how stupid has our media been on Iran:

    1984: Soon after West German engineers visit the unfinished Bushehr nuclear reactor, Jane's Defence Weekly quotes West German intelligence sources saying that Iran's production of a bomb "is entering its final stages." US Senator Alan Cranston claims Iran is seven years away from making a weapon.

    CSM

    Our major media and political discussion on Iran has revolved around the fact that they are 'getting' the bomb 'soon' for 30 years.

    We have done nothing to bridge the gap ourselves. Instead, we demand our politicians play tough with them because they are 'this' close to getting a bomb, and everyone knows it. Both Israel and the US say it. So it must be true. Who dares talk to a nation that is 'this' close to getting a bomb?

    So we must attack them. 'All' options have been on the table for decades.

    And you wonder why they hate the US and Israel. Maybe if our media was held accountable for the batshit crazy accusations against Iran, I'd take your point serious. But since a Senator can sing 'Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran" and take no heat, you won't see me being concerned with their batshit crazy media. (Ever watch FOX news?)

    •  Ah yes Mick but I addressed that issue (1+ / 0-)
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      Here is the difference:

      BUT, as consumers of news it is important that we understand what is being peddled. Same as information coming from FOX. One pretty much needs to triple check their sources to see if the story is true. One difference though between FOX and Press TV... That is that Press TV is a semi-official source of information and reflects the Governments thinking in Iran while FOX is the media arm of a political group that got beaten like a drum in the last election.
      The key is that Press reflects thinking and policy in Teheran. Fox represents the Tea Party Wing of a Party that just got whomped in the general election

      "'Touch it dude' - President Barack Obama"

      by volleyboy1 on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 09:59:58 PM PST

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  •  This kind of shit scares me... (1+ / 0-)
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    I recently unfriended two people on Facebook that I've known for years because they said, with conviction, that the recent shooting was just one more in a line of "false flag" operations by the government designed to create public outcry for a full and complete ban of guns in the US, so that Obama could create a dictatorship.

    What's amazing is that this is not a conservative.  She hates the Republican party with every fiber of her being too.  

    "If you don't stick to your values when tested, they're not values! They're hobbies" - Jon Stewart

    by LivingOxymoron on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 09:17:35 AM PST

    •  Well around this stuff the Hard Left meets (1+ / 0-)
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      The Hard Right. With people supporting Ron Paul or Lyndon LaRouche, you see a lot of blurring of self identification.

      It's ridiculous but, what can one do? People will always have their paranoid fantasies.

      "'Touch it dude' - President Barack Obama"

      by volleyboy1 on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 09:44:32 AM PST

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  •  The Iranian government is crazy (0+ / 0-)

    but so is the Israeli government.

    This is sort of like a supporter the North Korean regime criticizing the regime in China for being too oppressive.

    Your credibility is lacking.

    •  Oh so... In a diary where I call out the (3+ / 0-)

      Iranian Government for it's insanity of saying that Israel did the Sandy Hook Massacre, your point is.... what? That because I support the existence of Israel as the National Homeland and State of the Jewish People that I have no credibility in pointing out the obvious insanity that is the Iranian Government and their crazed supporters both here in the U.S. and abroad?

      Oh and your analogy to North Korea (and it's regime supporters) might be one of the stupidest analogies and most complete failures of all time. Here is why:

      1. I am not a supporter of the current Israeli Government. I am a supporter of the Avodah Opposition party, and would like to see a government comprised of Avodah, Yesh Atid, HaTanuah, Kadima (if they will still exist) and Meretz. Don't worry, I am sure you know fuck all about any of those parties but, one thing I can tell you is that they are the Opposition to the Likud-Betainu ruling party.

      2. Also, new user (hahahaha), If you don't know, the regime in North Korea is a brutal dictatorship that is passed through familial ties and has exactly zero freedom in terms of a fixed vote (hey... kinda like how Ahmadi stole his last election). On the other hand the government of Israel was voted on by it's people and the Likud-Betainu party does have the largest single bloc of support amongst Israelis. See that is how democracy works, something that neither China, Korea or really Iran have you know that little thing like free and fair elections.

      Oh btw... I just reported you to the admins. as a suspected zombie. How are things in Cowboyland anyway?

      "'Touch it dude' - President Barack Obama"

      by volleyboy1 on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 06:05:32 PM PST

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      •  I have no idea what you are blabbing about (0+ / 0-)
      •  Oh and the far right parties are dominating (0+ / 0-)

        Israeli politics and will likely do so far into the future. Israeli society has changed for the worse, and this isn't going change any time soon with the rapidly growing ultra orthodox community.

        •  As are the Palestinian Parties unless of course (1+ / 0-)
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          you think that Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad are some nifty progressive-left groups.

          Either way... what does that have to do with a diary which decries the Iranian Governments accusation that the Israelis did Sandy Hook.

          You may or may not like what I have to to say or what my politics are (though from your comments, you obviously have no idea what my politics are), but, I linked to the Press TV site where they interviewed Neo-Nazi Supporter Mike Harris and used interviews from known anti-Semite and complete whack nut Gordon Duff.

          Do you deny these things? I mean I get why you want to play "Hey look over there" but really, this diary is not about "Hey, Look over there" It is about - the fact that Iran's government is an anti-Semitic group of crazies who use Hard Rightists as their sources of info.

          So... onto another subject. How do you think Romo is doing this year? You think the 'Boys actually have any game?

          "'Touch it dude' - President Barack Obama"

          by volleyboy1 on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 09:09:38 PM PST

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          •  Yeah they suck too (0+ / 0-)

            Just pointing out that Israeli society sucks as well and it is getting more conservative and more religious, and you do support Israel.  And Israel does just as crazy and oppressive things like this.  The way the Israeli government targets journalists and peace activists is as disgusting as anything Iran does. So you are being hypocritical.

            What you are doing in this diary is demonizing the Iranians to justify neo-con hatred of them.  Some of their leaders say stupid things, but so do Israeli leaders - like the one who called African immigrants a cancer.

            And why are you demonizing Iran?  To justify American/Israel sabre rattling.  Eventhough you probably won't admit it.

            •  OH TEH NOEZ... CRITICIZING IRAN... HOW DARE I?11? (0+ / 0-)

              SO... Do you have an issue with the Iranians using racists like Mike Harris and Gordon Duff as sources of information? Yes or no? No... "But, teh ebilz Izrailees say...." just stick to the topic of the diary.

              When you say say this:

              What you are doing in this diary is demonizing the Iranians to justify neo-con hatred of them.
              aren't you actually projecting your own tactics regarding Israel particularly when you say this:
              Some of their leaders say stupid things, but so do Israeli leaders - like the one who called African immigrants a cancer.
              Why are you demonizing Israel? Particularly in a diary about Iran.

              However, can I count on you to write scathing rebuttals to those that write anti-Israel diaries only where you will be pointing out that their side is "equally" crazy?

              as for this:

              And why are you demonizing Iran?  To justify American/Israel sabre rattling.  Eventhough you probably won't admit it.
              I am not demonizing Iran... I am merely criticizing their government unless you are arguing that criticizing one's government is the same as criticizing the whole nation.

              No... what I am doing is pointing out how evil and crazy the Iranian leadership is and how they use heinous people to make their heinous points.

              "'Touch it dude' - President Barack Obama"

              by volleyboy1 on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 09:28:36 AM PST

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              •  When America starts planning to start a war with (0+ / 0-)

                Israel then ill go into those threads.  And I don't know who those people are you mentioned.

                •  Heh... yeah, I bet. (0+ / 0-)

                  But glad to see that you have no intention of being consistent and/or living up to your own rhetoric. Just nice to actually see it confirmed for once.

                  "'Touch it dude' - President Barack Obama"

                  by volleyboy1 on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 10:28:32 AM PST

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                  •  You're demonizing Iran just like the media (0+ / 0-)

                    demonized Iraq before the Iraq war.  It may have been deserved, but all it did was whip the nation into a warlike fervor.

                    •  Oh no.. I am telling the truth about Iran (0+ / 0-)

                      But just because they are run by a bunch of batshit racist thugs doesn't mean that I want to see a war against them, because really.... I don't. However, people should know the theocracy for what it is.

                      "'Touch it dude' - President Barack Obama"

                      by volleyboy1 on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 09:18:42 PM PST

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                      •  Hard not to describe Lieberman (0+ / 0-)

                        As anything but a racist thug as well.  Anywho a lot of countries are run by shitty people, but you are focusing you attention on the new country neocons have decided to attack.

                        I'm sure you don't want to attack Iran but you are helping justify the the saber rattling of Israeli/American neocons so the Israelis don't seem like terrible people for wanting to attack Iran.

                        •  The Israelis aren't terrible for wanting to defend (0+ / 0-)

                          themselves but the Iranian government is terrible for wanting to wipe Israel off the map. And don't give this Juan Cole Bullshit about that "Ahamadi didn't say it" because he did and has reiterated it. So have the Mullahs.

                          But this is interesting... You say this:

                          Anywho a lot of countries are run by shitty people, but you are focusing you attention on the new country neocons have decided to attack.
                          Oh no I am not, I am merely pointing out a crappy situation. What's that you say? That I am not pointing out crappy situations anywhere else? Well I do, but, as many activists in the I.P. arena that only pick on Israel say: "You don't have to fight every injustice you can just focus on one"... Are you saying that's not true? Are you saying that when they only write about Israel they are just attempting to dehumanize and demonize Israelis?

                          Which is it?

                          "'Touch it dude' - President Barack Obama"

                          by volleyboy1 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 09:21:24 AM PST

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                          •  Do you think Iran seriously threatens Israel? (0+ / 0-)

                            especially when there is no evidence that Iran has started a nuclear weapon program and the Mossad chief has even said Iran is rational and wouldn't attack Israel in that way.  Israel is not playing defense, they are playing offense.

                            If you really buy into that scare mongering I don't know what to tell you.

                          •  Yes... Yes I do think Iran threatens Israel (0+ / 0-)

                            BUT... I don't think they do with nukes (at least not yet).

                            Still, I am not sure what all that has to do with the racist, insane government that occupies Teheran and their whackjob pronouncement that Israel was behind the Sandy Hook killings (which is what this diary is about).

                            Now.. how about we agree on the one thing we can agree on here... Don't you agree that the Iranian Government's claim that Israel was behind the Sandy Hook killings is completely and totally insane? And don't you agree that using a source like Veterans Today and people like Mike Harris and Gordon Duff to make your points is completely irresponsible?

                            Now, no if's, and's or but's. Can we simply agree on those statements?

                            "'Touch it dude' - President Barack Obama"

                            by volleyboy1 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 11:25:14 AM PST

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                          •  Yes we agree on that (0+ / 0-)

                            But unfortunately you can't see Israel's own racism.

                          •  Oh there is racism in Israel but it is nothing (0+ / 0-)

                            compared to the racism on the Palestinian / Arab side. I can see what is in front of me. Just a pity you can't and won't simply own up to it.

                            "'Touch it dude' - President Barack Obama"

                            by volleyboy1 on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 09:49:50 AM PST

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