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If you did not catch it, Slate published a very intriguing article about efforts to suppress research on gun violence.  Here's the link to the whole piece: http://www.slate.com/...

The part that got me is here:

PT: Have you experienced personal attempts at intimidation for your research? How about colleagues?

GW: I won’t speak for colleagues. The president of one of the largest handgun manufacturers in the country once told me, face to face, how much money he had committed to an intimidation effort and advised me to keep my life insurance paid up. There was a time when federal law enforcement agents recommended that I wear a ballistic vest. There is a wanted poster on the Internet.

Jesus! Threats to an expert --  Garen Wintemute, director of the Violence Prevention Research Program at the University of California, Davis Medical Center --  who just simply wants to do research. Talk about thuggery!

This convinces me that the gun industry is much like the tobacco industry in its efforts to lie to the public, intimidate and suppress opponents, and reap the profits.

Thoughts?

Originally posted to LiberalLady on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 08:45 PM PST.

Also republished by Shut Down the NRA.

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  •  Tip Jar (27+ / 0-)

    The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

    by LiberalLady on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 08:45:55 PM PST

  •  Congressional Complicity (11+ / 0-)

    Since the stripping of research on gun violence - the data has been scant and anecdotal - yet it is clear to everyone that pays ANY attention that gun violence in this country is a big problem!

    "I want to keep them alive long enough that I can win them to Christ," - Rick Warren, Professional Greed Driven Scumbag

    by josephk on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 08:51:19 PM PST

    •  Sandy Hook may make the difference (11+ / 0-)

      If we can sustain interest and passion in this issue, we might see some willingness to do research and legitimize it as a source of policy decisions. I hope!

      The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

      by LiberalLady on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 08:53:09 PM PST

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      •  I sure hope so, but the NRA has more power in DC (1+ / 0-)
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        blueoasis

        than any other lobby.  First they bought the lawmakers, but now they just threaten them.

        It is time that all those complicit in allowing/abetting the NRA to institute a reign of terror, where we can't even send our kids to a freaking grade school expecting they will be alive at the end of the day, be called out.  That starts with lawmakers and so many "responsible" people that assist the NRA daily in stopping any sensible regulations.

        Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

        by DefendOurConstitution on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:38:12 AM PST

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  •  We need a real time data base of gun deaths (11+ / 0-)

    with a running tally of killed and wounded.

    This is just a hint of what could be.  The national scope of gun deaths needs to be public information in full detail.
    https://twitter.com/...

    Information is power and the NRA is keeping a lid on the carnage.

    If cats could blog, they wouldn't

    by crystal eyes on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 09:01:43 PM PST

    •  I was thinking something similar (9+ / 0-)

      Have a "gun violence" clock like the national debt clock we've all seen a million times.

      The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

      by LiberalLady on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 09:03:10 PM PST

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      •  A "gun violence" counter would be good (6+ / 0-)

        a lot of folks seem to be having this idea.  I noticed that HP is highlighting some of the incidents on their front page.

        What's most important is that we keep up the pressure on getting things done to address Violence

        Congressional elections have consequences!

        by Cordyc on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 09:17:36 PM PST

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        •  I agree - thanks for participating in the diary (3+ / 0-)
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          crystal eyes, Miggles, blueoasis

          The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

          by LiberalLady on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 09:18:29 PM PST

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        •  Not just in absolute numbers, but as multiple of (1+ / 0-)
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          9/11 deaths (you know the most horrific even in modern history).  Every year we have near 4 times the death toll of 9/11 so we are approaching 50 times the death toll of 9/11 since that horrific date.  How many more are "reasonable" to convince "responsible" gun advocates to stop assisting with the carnage and start assisting with protecting the rights of Americans to, not just live, but live without constant fear?

          Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

          by DefendOurConstitution on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:42:31 AM PST

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      •  And we need to call out the Republican party... (3+ / 0-)

        for using the "slippery slope" theory.

        In this instance, (gun control as it relates to the 2nd Amendment) it's being used for specious justification for irrational reasoning.

        It can also be applied to any deliberation, discussion or debate, including the individual perspective of just about every amendment to the U.S. Constitution, and most aspects of societal life itself.

        Ultimately, using this literary device in any debate usually provides an excuse for inaction.

        A ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammo clips is exactly that -- a ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammo clips It's not a ban on handguns, shotguns and rifles; nor is it a ban of ammunition. It's not a slippery slope or any other kind of slope, descent, decline or drop-off into federal governmental tyranny.

        It is what it is.

        The sooner both the NRA and congressional Republicans accept common sensibility and rational thought about the 2nd Amendment, and bring it into the 21st Century realm of practicability... the sooner we'll be able to prevent the next mass-killing carried out by a deeply disturbed, desensitized young man using a WMD. (weapon of mass death)

        Thanks for the diary.

        "That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history." ~ Aldous Huxley

        by markthshark on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 09:25:35 PM PST

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        •  Yes! And slippery slope can go both ways (5+ / 0-)

          Think about it. If we allow concealed weapons in schools and churches, we can allow them pretty much anywhere. Isn't that a slippery slope? If we allow "Stand Your Ground" laws that go beyond self-defense, why not let any citizen act as a vigilante? Another slippery slope. We have to point out that the slop has been slipping -- but in the direction of complete anarchy as it comes to guns.

          The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

          by LiberalLady on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 09:28:47 PM PST

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  •  it's not just efforts to suppress (7+ / 0-)

    gun violence research has been stopped for CDC and other federal agencies, yanked funding. rachel maddow had story on this last night.

    At one time, the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control was at the forefront in that debate, dedicated to addressing gun violence as a matter of public health. But gun rights advocates cried foul, accusing the CDC of practicing politics rather than science, and Congress agreed, stripping the agency of funding for gun-related research.

    "It is in the shelter of each other that people live." Irish Proverb

    by Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 09:48:14 PM PST

    •  this decision to suspend research (2+ / 0-)
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      blueoasis, trumpeter

      needs to be publicized...widely and reversed.

      it's horrifying.  What are we coming to - Communist Soviet Union, Communist china, Burma, .... only slaves to corporations and/or industries.

      Disgusting.

      "There's nothing serious about a plan that claims to reduce the deficit by spending a trillion dollars on tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires." - President Obama

      by fhcec on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 10:34:13 PM PST

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  •  All industries manipulate science (2+ / 0-)
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    DefendOurConstitution, blueoasis

    gun manufacturers hire hit men, wealthier industries hire scientists to create research to muddy the public discussion.

    Why not? These people live in a world in which "truth" is established by advertizing campaigns. If you don't like where the evidence points, you pay some people to suppress discussion or create different "evidence". It's all business.

  •  This is very important, (0+ / 0-)

    and the first I heard about this rider attached about CDC funding.

    I also find it despicable that Democrats who purportedly are for gun control don't make a stink about it every time the budget is voted on.

  •  In Michigan, the conceal/carry law (1+ / 0-)
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    trumpeter

    included a stipulation: no information about any crimes committed by permit holders could be made available to the public!
    Clearly, when NRA fanatics pressure and bribe elected officials to expand the so-called "rights" of gun owners, they know damn well their efforts will inevitably increase the number of fatal shootings. More people with more loaded guns only increases the likelihood a "road rage" confrontation will escalate into homicide, that a booze-addled relative will put a bullet in a family member's head, or a despondent teenager will end their own life with Mom and Dad's "home protection" pistol.
    For years the NRA has deceived and deluded Americans  with "talking points" that seem legitimate, but actually defy common sense.  Like mushrooms, we citizens have been kept in the dark and fed bullshit for so long, only a horrific tragedy like the Sandy Hook massacre could help us see the light.

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