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Seriously and no snark.  I just can't get all hopped up on sending out mental zap rays on people just because they're a member of this our that political party. We well know that no political movement has a monopoly on virtue or is free from vice or corruption.

Lately I've been blogging over on the National Review of all places -- it's rather more authoritarian (no diaries unless you are of the anointed, moderated comments) than here.  I use the same nom de blog as here.  Some people are reasonable over there, but there are many for whom "liberal" means "Satan", and various degrees of secessionists roam about.  I see them refer to Democrats, liberals and "the Left" as "the enemy", and they mean it, or at least appear to.

But I don't think we need to return the favor.  People can be wrong, stupid, corrupt fools, but not the enemy.  So in that spirit, I'll name some of the Republicans I like.

* John Boehner.  I can't believe I'm saying this, but this guy is just a hoot.  I think he genuinely likes the President also.  Oh sure, he tells whopper after whopper, but it's in a way that is something like he doesn't expect you to believe him, but he's just doing his job here!  Can you imagine having to deal with the wingnuts in his caucus every day?

* Michael Steele.  This guy is a political professional who's got a lot of interesting things to say, and he does it without trying to provoke or belittle people.  I've seen him a lot on Rachel's show, and I think they get along well, and that's good.  I like moxie, and Steele has it -- remember when he ran for Senate in Maryland as a Republican and had signs printed up which said "Democrat Mike Steele" -- gotta love that.

* Eric Cantor.  Okay, the guy is an obsequious toady, the carbuncle on the backside of the Republican warthog, the Grover Dill to Grover Norquist's Scut Farkus.  But, like Boehner, he seems refreshingly free of any sort of genuine belief in any sort of the rubbish that he's got to spout, and of course is interested in power only.  

That's better IMHO than the sort of mechanical ("Let 'em die") cruelty that one sees at least in the followers of Rand Paul and his homunculus father, if not those two individuals themselves.  
It's also kind of endearingly pathetic how Cantor is trying to ham up a southern accent in an effort to seem like some kind of good old boy.  I mean, who hasn't done stupid things to seem cool?  
I don't think Cantor would actually start chewing tobacco and driving around in the General Lee, which is more like that idjet Senator "Macaca" Allen, a carpet-bagger from Southern California and Confederate flag lover.

Newt Gingrich  What, you like that self-besotted buffoon?  Well, yes, he's that.  But what's not to love about a guy who campaigns on a moonbase and wants nine year olds to be janitors?  He's been running for president for the last 126 years, and he's a grifter's grifter.  But he has a weirdly inventive mind, and I have to say, I find that he always has something interesting to say, unlike Romney, who almost never had anything to say.

So while I don't agree with much or most of what these folks have to say, and I've identified a few of the many ways they've been wrong, bull-headed corrupt or just plain dorky, I still feel that I can regard them with some amity.

Let's not be surrendering our core beliefs, but let's recognize, as I stated, that being wrong, as our political opponents often are, is part of the human condition.  And we're not immune either.  

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  •  Tip Jar (11+ / 0-)

    You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

    by Cartoon Peril on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:01:46 PM PST

  •  ....Wow.... (2+ / 0-)
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    Newt Gingrich I don't dislike because "Take their money," is a battle cry I can get behind, but Cantor is slime, plain and simple, and Michael Steele is the reason why the Republican party only got like 2% of the black vote.

    "Holding on to anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die," - Buddha.

    by sujigu on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:07:12 PM PST

  •  So ... I like you and I think (14+ / 0-)

    you know that. But I have a problem with this.

    Sure, Republicans are good to their children, have nice homes and love their pets .... all in all, as individuals they can be personable and great company.

    Then they vote to make the lives of Americans harder, poorer, less healthy and more dangerous than those lives should be.

    That is where they lose me, for all their smiles and apparent willingness to discuss.

    They are the enemy of my future, and that of my children.

    They will turn this country into a wasteland of poverty while they shut the gates of their communities.

    They live, or support those who live as parasites on society and I will not forgive them that until they change their views.

    If they do not change their views we will have to either outlive them, or outvote them.

    There may still be some decent, old-school republicans. They need to step up and behave like the adults in the room. Then they will earn my respect.

    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    by twigg on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:11:10 PM PST

    •  Well, I hear all that, and I certainly voted (3+ / 0-)
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      straight Democratic with many or most of those considerations in mind. But I think a bridge has to start from at least one side of the river.

      You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

      by Cartoon Peril on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:19:07 PM PST

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      •  That is because currently (6+ / 0-)

        the only adults in the room are Democrats.

        What has happened in the last twelve years, every time we have extended a hand in compromise?

        I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
        but I fear we will remain Democrats.

        by twigg on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:20:53 PM PST

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        •  I'm not so much saying this or that compromise (3+ / 0-)
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          should be made, I actually think tough bargaining particularly appropriate at this time.  

          But as a person I feel I can't carry on my intellectual life without recognizing the fundamental commonality I have with the people whose political ideas I find intensely wrong.

          You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

          by Cartoon Peril on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:30:50 PM PST

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          •  Indeed you do (5+ / 0-)

            Because when we call out their offensive rhetoric, bust their ridiculous and damaging policies, and institute a much more liberal regime then you will benefit Republicans just as much as liberals.

            Along the way, they will not help. They will kick, scream and fight you tooth and nail, until you ein and then you win for them too.

            They will not say "Thank you".

            I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
            but I fear we will remain Democrats.

            by twigg on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:39:02 PM PST

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  •  I grew up with Republicans (7+ / 0-)

    Both my grandfather and my father were ward leaders...almost everybody I knew was a Republican...they were good solid decent people, always there to help out when someone needed it..

    But those days are gone.  

    I very infrequently go back to old haunts when I am in the US, meet up with people, and wonder where did all these rabid dogs come from?

    I am a warrior for peace. And not a gentle man... Steve Mason, 1940-2005

    by Wayward Wind on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:15:24 PM PST

    •  My father was a Republican and my mother (3+ / 0-)
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      was a Democrat.  He would rant on about welfare, marijuana and Communism, and she voted for McGovern.

      This used to happen a lot in the old days.

      You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

      by Cartoon Peril on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:22:48 PM PST

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      •  My father was really conservative... (7+ / 0-)

        late 60s, pro-war, yada, yada....

        Then my older brother came back on a stretcher and he got to see the horrific conditions at a VA hospital....

        Then I came back on a stretcher, and he saw it again, to a much lesser extent because I was still in military hospitals...

        My mother, who lost a brother in the Marshall Islands, was beside herself from all the stress...

        Then they tried to draft my younger brother, and that sent my father over the edge...he made serious plans to send my younger brother to Canada, which fortunately were not needed, and was a raving anti-republican the rest of his life....I used to kid him that that last words he ever would speak on earth would be "..fucking Nixon..."

        heh...

        I am a warrior for peace. And not a gentle man... Steve Mason, 1940-2005

        by Wayward Wind on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:37:50 PM PST

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  •  Apparently you missed the "head of the RNC" (4+ / 0-)

    Michael Steele. Quite the "off the rails asshole". The one you see on Rachel is quite different and seems almost reasonable, but I suspect it's a big charade to get the "air-time payoff".

    "I'm totally pro-choice in the matter of abortion. But of course I'm also so radically pro-life that I think every person from birth onward must have full and affordable access to healthcare." - Gail Collins

    by gritsngumbo on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:15:50 PM PST

  •  Michael Steele seems to be the kind of Republican (4+ / 0-)

    that you used to be able to work with.

    He would probably be a good negotiator, but he would also be a fair one as well and actual, you know, governing would take place.

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:17:08 PM PST

  •  I think you make a great point. (5+ / 0-)

    There are some very nice people who are Republicans.

    That said, I much prefer Democrats, and specifically, progressive Democrats.

    There is something to the fact that they see us as "the enemy". I don't see them as "the enemy", I see them as either craven or ignorant. There's a big difference.

    Get your goddamned guns out of my church. This means you.

    by commonmass on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:20:42 PM PST

    •  I agree, and my point is that we need to be bigger (5+ / 0-)

      Resort to "enemy" talk makes us smaller.  Literally actually, because it implies that some huge part of the nation is not in fact part of the nation.

      You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

      by Cartoon Peril on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:25:26 PM PST

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      •  Well, you're preaching to the choir (4+ / 0-)
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        (which is nice for a change, because that's usually my job) but I totally agree. Now, I have been known to say some pretty nasty things about elected Republicans. In fact, on Boxing Day, when I sub for Cheers and Jeers, I am most definitely going to use some strong language. I might even call one a "douchenozzle". What I won't do is call them the enemy. Because they are not.

        I suspect that the entire "enemy" thing is part of the sad fact that we are still fighting the Civil War. Only people on our side (in our party, in our state, on our street, in our family) are "with us" and all others are "enemy". What this has led to is a civil war mentality in government, particularly in Congress. It's unhealthy.

        That being said, I think a "grand bargain" would look like us giving the GOP some spending cuts, all of them in Ryan and Cantor's districts. ;)

        Get your goddamned guns out of my church. This means you.

        by commonmass on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:31:01 PM PST

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  •  Honestly (6+ / 0-)

    I don't really dislike Boehner.  I think he's sort of a simple guy whose rise to leadership happened to coincide with the GOP going batshit crazy.  I also don't mind Steele.  Gingrich is a clown and I can't stand Cantor.

    •  Gingrich is a person whose mind is moving on (2+ / 0-)
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      a completely different track than most people's.  The right wing thinks he's one of theirs, but I think if he ever came back to power (in some alternative universe) they might be in for some big surprises.

      You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

      by Cartoon Peril on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:27:15 PM PST

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      •  Oh, yes. I happen to think that Gingrich (1+ / 0-)
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        Cartoon Peril

        has acted in some very vile ways. However, I think he thinks of himself as what passes for a thinker on the right, and you're correct: frankly, tea party types hate him, because occasionally he actually thinks something through.

        The way you go over to National Review, I used to watch "Firing Line". I wonder what William F. Buckley Jr. would have to say about the current state of the Republican party? I bet it would not be pretty, but I can assure you it would be erudite.

        Get your goddamned guns out of my church. This means you.

        by commonmass on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:36:58 PM PST

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        •  Unfortunately NR is getting rather dull (1+ / 0-)
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          They have people like Andy McCarthy on there all the time blathering on and on about Sharia Law, Michelle Malkin talking about who knows what, and basically a lot of really second-rate thinkers at best, and they are wholly in the thrall of the Tea Party and the nutter wing of the R party, which these days, is pretty much everyone.

          You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

          by Cartoon Peril on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:45:27 PM PST

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  •  A confession (1+ / 0-)
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    If Cantor were a Dem I'd have a crush on him

  •  You forgot Dubya. My favorite! (3+ / 0-)

    He provided so much material for ridicule and laughs that not even the Republicans want him anymore. They shun him now. Poor W.

    Here in Colorado we have so many deliciously stupid Republicans to mock that it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

    I love Republicans too. It's too much fun.

    After all is said and done, a lot more is said than done.

    by Brahman Colorado on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:35:16 PM PST

    •  W had some good features, he was dumb as bag (2+ / 0-)
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      of hammers, which did limit the harm he could cause, and he lacked the sort of sneaky vileness that seemed to ooze out of Prime Minister Cheney and his sidekick Addington.  Also, W didn't play the immigration card the way current Republicans are.

      You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

      by Cartoon Peril on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:53:42 PM PST

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  •  My absolutely best friend in college was a (5+ / 0-)

    stone-cold conservative (OK, so as stone-cold as they could be back in the late 70's).  He was simply a charming, delightful hoot to be around and we spent many (and sometimes occasionally-drunken) hours passionately debating politics in the various dives and speakeasy establishments surrounding our home-away-from in Moscow, Idaho.  What I learned from this relationship is that it is easy to vilify the impersonal "other" while finding points of commonality, community, and friendship with those that you know who may have all sorts of viewpoints you would otherwise disagree with...

    ...we were a younger, immeasurably less influential Ted Kennedy and Orrin Hatch...  

    "In a nation ruled by swine, all pigs are upward mobile..." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    by Jack K on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:36:19 PM PST

  •  Michael Steele is kind of dopey (2+ / 0-)
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    but he seems like a decent human being.

    The Republican Party is now the sworn enemy of the United States of America.

    Listen to All Over The Place - we play all kinds of music!

    by TheGreatLeapForward on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:37:04 PM PST

  •  I will reluctantly admit (5+ / 0-)

    that I kind of like Chris Christie. I'm so horrified by this but I can't help myself, I love watching him talk, he's very entertaining. I have a lot of respect for how he handled Sandy. I like that he isn't ashamed to talk about being fat. There have been a few times-like when he stood up for the muslim judge he appointed, that I've been pretty impressed by him. I would never in a gajillion years support him politically, but I would totally go to the Hometown Buffet with him.

    I feel sorry for John Boehner, I think of a sad old hound dog every time I see his day-glo face. Steele is OK now that he's reduced himself to complete irrelevency, and he made a great muppet for the Daily Show.

    Cantor and Gingrich though? I cannot follow you down that road, my friend. They are the devil.

    You must work-we must all work-to make a world that is worthy of its children -Pablo Casals Please support TREE Climbers for victims of child sexual abuse and exploitation.

    by SwedishJewfish on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:43:31 PM PST

    •  I forgot Christie, I like him too, not that I'd (4+ / 0-)

      ever vote for him, but he handled himself well in Sandy.

      I think maybe I'm basing my like/dislike on how the folks look with President Obama.

      You're right about John Boehner, he's looking like an old basset hound these days.  

      To my credit, I did say that Cantor was Grover Dill to Grover Norquist's Scut Farkus -- can I get some points for that?

      You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

      by Cartoon Peril on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 09:06:39 PM PST

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  •  I can't name a single Republican I like or respect (2+ / 0-)
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    Steele seems okay I guess, maybe, but I don't know that much about him.

  •  I don't hate the DWOL. I pity him (0+ / 0-)

    He is so clearly in over his head and has no clue what he's doing. Plus, the man is a drunk with the resulting emotional problems. He's a mess and he needs help.

    Cantor, on the other hand, I do despise. The phrase "weasel" was invented to describe him.

  •  I like Ike (6+ / 0-)

    and Lincoln.

    otherwise, not so much

  •  Guys who are willing to ... (4+ / 0-)

    ...fuck over America's most vulnerable in order to keep America's most affluent in yachts aren't people I can find it in my heart to "like." We're not playing football here where good sportsmanship requires backpats to the opposing side at the end of a hard-fought battle. The issue is they are using their power to screw over reproductive rights, deny climate change, enrich the already wealthy, pollute the environment, destroy labor rights, demolish public education, spend more on defense, dismantle the remnants of the safety net.

    I like you, CP. But your likes, in this case, reek.

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:55:51 PM PST

    •  I agree with you, MB, however (1+ / 0-)
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      I think CP has a point about how we talk about the opposition. They see us as the "enemy". We have an opportunity to raise that bar.

      This, coming from someone who regularly uses very bad language to describe the actions of very bad politicians of both parties.

      Get your goddamned guns out of my church. This means you.

      by commonmass on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 09:00:17 PM PST

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      •  I actually think it's that "raising the bar" (2+ / 0-)
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        and forgetting to view them as the enemy, that repeatedly gets us into these lousy negotiating situations.
        I know it is.
        Seeing the "humanity" in our political adversary, is where we nod and smile as they eliminate SNAP, cut off UI, refuse to come up with any sort of true compromise or health care reform and say we are cruel to future generations because we don't implement severe austerity measures on Medicare and Medicaid recipients to deal with the "deficit".
        They know to see the humanity in one's adversary, especially when one is in a weaker position, is to expose the jugular and hand them a knife while politely inquiring if it's sharp enough to suit them?

        When we have a strong jobs bill, medicare for all, a tax rate on the wealthy that is truly fair, shut down fiascos like Keystone and widespread unregulated frakking at god knows what cost- when we are in that position of power- then we compliment Mr Boehner on his pleasantness, Newt on his delightful sense of morality and enjoy a chuckle with Michael Steele.

        Only when our position is that strong, will I acknowledge any humanity in those persons who routinely profit personally by denying my children basic economic and social necessities.

        They know the chasm is wide and they like it that way.
        My

        Occupy- Your Mind. - No better friend, no worse enemy. -8.75, -6.21<> Bring the Troops Home Yesterday

        by Thousandwatts on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 10:03:13 PM PST

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    •  I'm trying to out-Zen those guys! (1+ / 0-)
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      It's all a part of the plan!

      You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

      by Cartoon Peril on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 09:12:27 PM PST

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    •  OK, I'm going over the top: (0+ / 0-)

      Republicans are like bed lice, herpes, jock rash, high blood pressure, skin cancer, toe fungus, the clap, acid indigestion, the black plague, organ failure, and lupus.

      I can't wait until all these horrific maladies are eradicated, especially the current Republican strain.

         

      Eradicate magical thinking

      by Zinman on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 09:58:23 PM PST

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      •  I can't recommend this comment because I worked (2+ / 0-)
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        with people who had survived the Rwanda genocide.  This was what they were called by their murderers.  I want to get away from that, even if snarking..

        You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

        by Cartoon Peril on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 10:11:00 PM PST

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        •  Get over it, this is snark, but with a message (1+ / 0-)
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          And while you are at it, why don't you look at the child mortality in this country which has been worsened by Republican policies. Or look at the increase in preventable diseases in adults which have been worsened by Republican poilcies. Or look at the deaths from the Republican war in Iraq which killed thousands of American troops and caused an increase of deaths there of about a million or so in civilians.

          We could go through all of the deaths and injuries caused by Republicans, but I guess that is not enough. I'm sick of pretending that Republicans are worthy political adversaries who deserve all our respect and deference when the facts on the ground are that their policies have led to a torrent of early deaths and misery.

          Eradicate magical thinking

          by Zinman on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 10:36:40 PM PST

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        •  Will you embrace the murderers of Rwanda? (0+ / 0-)

          Don't they deserve the same forgiveness you extend to the murdering Republicans?

          Eradicate magical thinking

          by Zinman on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 11:45:02 PM PST

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    •  It's satire, no? (0+ / 0-)

      I thought it was. And in that context, it reads much better. Isn't it a satirical piece about the absurdity of bipartisanship as well as how one couldn't really wish for better enemies?

      Well, that's how I read it. And if that's the case, it's really a good commentary on how awful Republicans are.

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      by mahakali overdrive on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 10:31:13 PM PST

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      •  I don't think it is satire (1+ / 0-)
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        Until the (rhetorical) knives come out from Cartoon Peril aimed at the Republicans, let's treat this as an opportunity to compare how and why today's Republicans are the reincarnation of the early fascists who paved the way for the Nazis in Germany and Italy.

        Eradicate magical thinking

        by Zinman on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 11:29:33 PM PST

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  •  You like people (1+ / 0-)
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    who "spout rubbish for power"?

    GOP: Bankers, billionaires, suckers, and dupes.

    by gzodik on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 09:32:55 PM PST

    •  Yes because this is politics, and lying is part of (2+ / 0-)
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      the tradition.  But I know they are lying, and they know that I know they are lying, etc. etc.  I accept this and basically don't worry about it, as I know we have ways to counter the R whoppers.

      I don't support the Republican politics, but I do feel it's time to say that we support them as people.  The President himself said so, when he says he has to be the president of 100% of the people.

      You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

      by Cartoon Peril on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 09:40:55 PM PST

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  •  Even today some good-hearted non-idiots still (1+ / 0-)
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    Even today some good-hearted non-idiots still...
    prefer Republican policies over Democratic policies.  

    While misleading media bears much of the blame, more fundamental factors include tribalism (including party brand loyalty) and the fact that complexity and information overload forces everybody to select simplifying narratives, or at least to prioritize to such an extent that a person's preferences cannot be influenced by what are judged to be secondary issues.

  •  This IS snark, right? Or satire, really... (0+ / 0-)

    Presumably so, and thus my tip, and it's pretty well-written and made me laugh. Thanks.

    I like all these fantastic things about these fabulous people as well. The comments here are making me laugh as well. Sorry you're being read as sincere (even if, well Hell, I think you're being all-too-honest if anything).

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    by mahakali overdrive on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 10:29:01 PM PST

  •  I would hate to see the U.S. become (3+ / 0-)

    a one party nation.  The parties use to keep the radicals of the opposition in check.  The current batch of Republicans is as close to embracing Fascism as any I have seen in in a long time.  The problem I have with the Conservatives is they are not really fiscal Conservatives at all.  Hopefully future elections will remedy the situation before it's too late.    

    •  The proto-Fascist Republicans are a real menace (1+ / 0-)
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      This old man

      They are not collegial chums we can have a brandy with, share a good joke with, or with whom we can smoke a good cigar and commiserate.

      Eradicate magical thinking

      by Zinman on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 11:16:33 PM PST

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    •  I'd be perfectly happy to see (0+ / 0-)

      the republican party completely eliminated from governance.  If not one single republican held power in federal, state, or local government, it wouldn't break my heart at all.  The GOP is nothing more than a repository for liars, wingnuts, plutocrats, and sociopaths anyway.  What do they have to contribute?  

      Political compass: -8.75 / -4.72

      by Mark Mywurtz on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 04:15:01 AM PST

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      •  Then beware of what replaces them. (0+ / 0-)

        47% of the people voted for Romney, and conceivably more would have voted GOP if they had a better candidate.

        That reservoir of crazy isn't drying up soon.  If the GOP implode, there will be a power vacuum that some other group will figure out how to leverage it.

        Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

        by Wisper on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 07:25:43 AM PST

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        •  I'll take my chances! (0+ / 0-)

          I mean, we're talking about a party that's pro-assault weapons, pro-war and anti everything else.  Anything worse than that gets into some serious scifi dystopian territory....I'm not really sure if we could go any lower than the GOP.  

          Political compass: -8.75 / -4.72

          by Mark Mywurtz on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 07:37:32 AM PST

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  •  nope don't like any of them (0+ / 0-)

    (save Michael Steele, maybe). They, collectively, are the shit stain on the underwear that is the American body politic. Zombie eyed granny starvers, the whole lot.

  •  I like Gingrich's thoughts on POLITICS (0+ / 0-)

    but not on issues.  But as a DC tactician and campaign soldier he has good insight and now that he's on the outside looking in, his freedom to speak his mind about anyone and anything is very entertaining.

    I'd like to see him and Matthews hash out Capitol Hill maneuvering.  Both of them annoy when they actually try to talk about issues, but the political wrangling is more in their wheelhouse.

    Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

    by Wisper on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 07:23:10 AM PST

  •  Btw, I agree with this diary, in letter and spirit (0+ / 0-)

    The reciprocated stupid-hate that gets flung around this site like fresh feces in a Monkey House is as disgusting on this side as it is when its splattering the walls of RedState.

    People need to get off the Politics as Team-Sport mentality.. thats the product FOX News has been peddling for years, and back to discussing issues and options on which many people profoundly disagree.

    I live in DC and worked for law and lobbying firms for years so I've had a pretty clear view into the Sausage Factory and at times its as revolting and infuriating as you'd imagine, but a most of the time its very easy to appreciate that generally you are dealing with decent people on both sides.

    Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

    by Wisper on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 07:31:13 AM PST

  •  I'm with Zinman (0+ / 0-)

    I really try to get along with everyone, but I must admit, I can't stand these assholes.
    They are false patriots, full of hate, power hungry, false christians, and the biggest group of racists in the country.
    That is my view of almost all of the officials and pundits.
    The lemmings that follow, vote away their rights to a better work life, believe all the bullshit on Fox and repeat the nonsense without anything factual to back it up. Made a combined 200,000.00 and suddenly thought being republican was the way to vote, and now they get betrayed by right to work.
    Our state officials have cut benefits to our poorest people in the state (MI), without one job available to transition them. They fucked over seniors in favor of tax breaks for business.
    They want dissolution of democracy by imposing Emergency Managers to fix financial problems they created, just to come in and seize assests, while still not creating jobs.
    I don't hate them, but it is damn close.
    If they had one position that was a fair compromise, I might rethink some of my positions, but for now, I will remain razor like focused on electing officials that think like this group, just like they remain razor like focused on stealing all the money and power they can.

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