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Recently, it was Pope Benedict who, from the comfort of his fancy gold hat and prada slippers, used his Christmas message to proclaim that same-sex marriage rights amount to the destruction of the "essence of the human creature."

Not satisfied to be outdone in bigotry by the Pope, British (Roman Catholic) Bishop of Shrewsbury Mark Davies decided to take his outrage over the British government's plan to pass marriage equality a step further. In his Christmas message. Because nothing is more appropriate in an annual Christmas message than issuing a call to deny loving gay and lesbian couples from getting married. Marriage equality is so heinous, in fact, that it's right up there with Nazism and Communism. You know, the political ideologies that sent millions upon millions of people to concentration camps, gas chambers, and gulags. Marriage equality is going to do that, too. Or something like that.

The man talks as if gay people weren't also victimized by the Holocaust and oppression in the Soviet Union. But never mind that, and never mind the fact that nobody has ever died as the result of a same-sex wedding. This threat to the sanctity of marriage is urgent, and peace on earth and good will do men be damned, this is what we need to talk about in the Christmas fucking message.

Here's what Bishop Davies had to say:

Past generations have gathered in this cathedral on Christmas night amid many shadows which seemed to obscure the future for them. We think of the ideologies of the past century, Communism and Nazism, which in living memory threatened to shape and distort the whole future of humanity. These inhuman ideologies would each challenge in the name of progress the received Christian understanding of the sanctity of human life and the family. Winston Churchill, Britain’s wartime Prime Minister, a man without clear, religious belief, saw in this deadly struggle nothing less than the defence of Christian civilisation.

Few of our political leaders today appear to glimpse the deeper issues when the sanctity of human life and the very identity of marriage, the foundation of the family, are threatened. This Christmas we are also conscious of new shadows cast by a Government that was pledged at its election to support the institution of marriage. The Prime Minister has decided without mandate, without any serious consideration, to redefine the identity of marriage itself, the foundation of the family for all generations to come. This is again done in the name of progress. The British people have reason to ask on this night where is such progress leading?

Well there you have it. Move over Hitler and Stalin, this is what totalitarianism looks like:

There are no words to describe the asininity of what Bishop Davies is saying. So I won't even try. All I can say is, the Pope and Bishop Davies and every other religious leader stuck in antiquity had better brace themselves for the sweeping tide of progress--yes, progress--that has only just begun.

Originally posted to Chrislove on Mon Dec 24, 2012 at 04:08 PM PST.

Also republished by Angry Gays, Milk Men And Women, LGBT Kos Community, and Kossacks for Marriage Equality.

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Comment Preferences

  •  Isn't this scary? (28+ / 0-)

    My BF and I performing a dastardly act in front of the Texas State Capitol. Welcome to 2012 (almost 2013), Bishop Davies. You're going to be seeing a lot more of this.

    Homosexuality is found in over 450 species. Homophobia is found in only one. Which one seems unnatural now?

    by Chrislove on Mon Dec 24, 2012 at 04:08:49 PM PST

  •  Seems like a good way to reduce attendance (2+ / 0-)
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    Chrislove, Dave in Northridge

    at Church of England services.  Is that this asshole's goal?

  •  Words can't express my contempt (10+ / 0-)

    I mean, this is the branch of Christianity that used to offer full employment to gay men since they couldn't work in normal occupations. Never mind the scandals.

    There are no poor in England any more? Minister to them, Bishop Bigot.

    -7.75, -8.10; Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

    by Dave in Northridge on Mon Dec 24, 2012 at 04:38:35 PM PST

  •  Oh gee, so there IS something to (2+ / 0-)
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    ExStr8, sfbob

    the pope's Hitler Youth background after all?

    Color me shocked, shocked I tell ya!

  •  I Honestly Thought I'd Get Thru the Entire Evening (6+ / 0-)

    without Hitler, if I just avoided cable tv's History Channels.

    I hope it costs his parish.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Dec 24, 2012 at 04:42:44 PM PST

    •  I hope so too (2+ / 0-)
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      Chrislove, navajo

      I don't know how things stand in the among Catholics in the UK but the majority of American Catholics support marriage equality.

      The good bishop is undoubtedly entitled to hold and express whichever opinions he wishes. However, I suspect that the majority of British Catholics will view his use of the holiday to preach hatred as being as petty and vindictive as it appears to be from across the Pond.

  •  I keep saying... (3+ / 0-)
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    Chrislove, bythesea, Tailfish

    ...that, reading the pope's words, he claims that gender nonconformity is the destruction of humanity.  Same-sex marriage is just a symptom.

  •  In Honor of Tonight's Sermon (3+ / 0-)
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    Chrislove, Tailfish, sfbob

    If anyone has read my critiques of the right wing hierarchy before, they'll know I'm not hesitant to criticize. So I'd like to offer a counter-compliment tonight to a great sermon and remind those who read your very sound diary that Bishop Davies isn't typical of all (probably not even most) Catholics.

    Tonight's sermon in our Catholic Church: "You are all unique. You are all special. You are all (mostly) good...of course, we can all be a little better...and for those "preachers" who talk about evil and badness...let's put them all on an island and let them devour one another..."

    Honestly! From a Catholic Monsignor with a truly "Christian" attitude.

    "every other religious leader stuck in antiquity had better brace themselves for the sweeping tide of progress--yes, progress--that has only just begun."

    It may even begin with older clerics who happen to remember that Jesus (and just about all the other real, historical leaders of religions) loved just about everyone.

  •  G. Wills had it right a few years ago: The Vatican (2+ / 0-)
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    was long ago taken over by "thugs" -- his word, that of a self-described practicing Catholic with a traditional special devotion to the B.V.M.  Of course, since it's the Vatican that picks the Bishops, this thuggery has subsequently spread to the rest of the hierarchy (or, as Charlie Pierce -- another self-described still practicing Catholic* -- calls the College of Cardinals, the Clan of the Red Beanie or the largest international conspiracy in history to enable and protect felonious abusers of children.)

    *I admit to being both dumbfounded and impressed by the number of people whose intellectual opinions I greatly admire who manage to maintain faith in a religion whose organized manifestation they recognize as being collosolly corrupt.  Dorothy Day and Thomas Merton I can understand -- that was before the unending pedophilia scandal.  But Wills and Pierce now?  I must admit I have a very difficult time understanding that kind of faith, much less being able to share it, despite 16 years of Catholic education and 4 subsequent years working for Catholic institutions.  

  •  Why wouldn't the Bishop be concerned? (5+ / 0-)

    Haven't you seen today's news stories about the thousands of married gay people massing on the Prussian-Polish border and preparing to invade?

  •  Nazism? (1+ / 0-)
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    ...As I recall the Catholics were on THEIR side against the gays.

    America, we can do better than this...

    by Randomfactor on Mon Dec 24, 2012 at 07:00:23 PM PST

  •  Where's Opie and Anthony when you need them? (0+ / 0-)

    There was a lot of outrage over their radio stunt with a couple having sex in confessional a few years ago.  And it was inappropriate.

    Some said it defiled the church.

    But I've got to tell you, if I was told that I could go to one of two churches: one where someone was going to spew hatred of people from the alter, or a second church where a parishoner spewed a load on someone's back in a confessional, I tend to think I'd favor that one.  

    Because at least disinfectant wipes would clean up any perceived mess, but hatred unfortunately doesn't clean up so easy.

    Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

    by Chris Reeves on Mon Dec 24, 2012 at 08:16:54 PM PST

  •  Hold up! (2+ / 0-)
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    Catholicism played a huge role in Fascism.

  •  I wish you would not allow the equation of (1+ / 0-)
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    Communism with Fascism to stand.

    Historically, the Communists were the ONLY opposition to Fascism. And, as others have pointed out, the Catholic Church in Germany (and Christians in general, although with a few exceptions) supported Fascism.

    Actually existing Communism was not much better than actually existing capitalism. There is nothing at all in the "ideology" of Communism that accounts for what Stalin did. This is not to excuse it (or "actually existing communism"), but to distinguish that from the ideology.

    Whether you are aware of it or not, the world we live in today is much closer to what Marx called "Communism" (and it's not what you think--it is in the form of file sharing and the culture of "free" that is everywhere and foundational for online communities such as Dkos).

    This may seem like a minor quibble to some people, but it seriously weakens your argument. I am down with people not liking Communism, and I get that it is as outdated a concept as Capitalism, but ... these things do weaken your argument.

    •  Well... (0+ / 0-)

      Considering tens of millions of people died in the name of Communism, I don't have much of a problem naming it in my title along with Nazism. I'm not equating the two. Nazism is Nazism. And I happen to be an admirer of, say, American Communists, who were both anti-Fascist and at the forefront of the civil rights movement. But I'm not really that interested in getting into the particulars of Marxist ideology and how it really should have looked versus how it looked under Stalin and Mao. I'm no political theorist, and I'm certainly not an expert on Marxism, but I do know what it looked like in the hands of dictators, and it was pretty damn ugly. These are abstract arguments when millions and millions of people remain dead, 50 million+ or so alone under Mao, possibly the bloodiest leader in world history.

      Regardless, none of this has much of anything to do with my diary or my argument.

      Homosexuality is found in over 450 species. Homophobia is found in only one. Which one seems unnatural now?

      by Chrislove on Tue Dec 25, 2012 at 04:36:28 AM PST

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  •  They just fear change. (0+ / 0-)

    Change is scary, you don't know what the implications of it might be until they're well on their way towards becoming realized.

    Unfortunately, these people are so isolated, that they don't understand the subject that they're speaking about.  Their ideological information bubble is also loaded with people who knowingly spread false information.

    As far as I know, all sins are equally bad.  So if 'practicing' the gay lifestyle is a sin, it's just as bad as genocide.  (Except for renouncing the holy spirit.  I've heard that supposedly that one thing is unforgivable, so maybe that one is 'worse'?)

    Too bad instead of 'punishment fitting the crime' there's only eternal torture, and eternal bliss.  That kind of imperfection is something that fallible human society does much, much better than the god these people follow.

    It also allows people to more easily equate acts of genocide and mass carnage to mundane things like swearing, adultery and not believing in the savior.

    If god punishes all those things equally and he's the perfect moral being, then there really isn't any difference in those crimes, are there?

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