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As was previously touched on in the fantastic diary by Grizzard(http://www.dailykos.com/... )
Mike Huckabee has a pretty simple solution for stopping things like the shooting in Connecticut and I would assume other national tragedies that have befallen us of late.
We simply have to invite God back into our lives as a nation. So, if we assume that Mr. Huckabee is correct I have a few questions. Follow me after the squiggle for the problems inherent in this idea.  

This first thing that Mr. Huckabee does not understand or chooses to ignore is that no one in this country has ever been forced to be a Christian. Just as they were never forced to not be a Christian. These were choices that we as a free people made. And if we are to believe as Mr. Huckabee does; that God works on a merit based system when doling out his love and protection, it was our choices that got us here. http://www.gallup.com/...
As study after study shows the American people have exercised their freedom to leave religion over the years. So it would seem that the only way to stem this tide of destruction is to force people to be Christians. However, therein lies the problem. Religion, especially Christianity, is all about true belief, based on a personal choice. It is not something that can be forced. So according to Mr. Huckabee, the only thing we can do to save this nation from future calamity is to deport or otherwise remove any and all non-Christians. However we now face a whole centuries long list of problems. Which Christianity is God approved and which isn't? Protestant, Catholic, Baptist? And if something bad happens after that; a baby dies, a tornado destroys a town, what do we do? Hold hearing to find out who among us is lax in their faith and brought the punishment or lack of action upon us? How do we determine that each person is devout enough to continue God's watchful eye? After 25 years in the church, I'm still unaware of a test that one can undergo to affirm their faith or prove their belief. If this is as cut and dry as Mr. Huckabee makes it sound, why do devout Christians still endure suffering? To echo the sentiments of Grizzard, if Christians such as Mike Huckabee, wish for people to follow his example, so that they too can avoid the condemnation of God, make it an example that people will be desperate to follow.

10:49 AM PT: Just to clarify, although mildly snarky, I mostly mean what I am saying. I tend to believe that in an infinite universe ANYTHING is possible, however improbable. Mike Huckabee claims to have a solution to all human suffering. Going off the possibility that he MAY be correct. I'm genuinely curious as to how he thinks that could or would work.

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  •  No one forced to be Christian? (12+ / 0-)

    except, of course, Native Americans. Not only was American Indian religion made illegal (including talking about it), Indians jailed (no trial) for practicing it, they were required to become Christian.

  •  Maybe he wants to bring back the Inquisition (6+ / 0-)

    That way everyone would HAVE to be a Christian. Only it would need to be changed just a bit; I doubt Huckabee wants everyone to be forced into the Roman Catholic Church.

  •  See Jackson, Shirley. "The Lottery". n/t (3+ / 0-)
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    hnichols, trumpeter, qofdisks

    What is truth? -- Pontius Pilate

    by commonmass on Wed Dec 26, 2012 at 10:47:29 AM PST

  •  Let's say that your grandmother has wheels (2+ / 0-)
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    hnichols, grover

    and hence is a trolleycar.

    Let's say that a dog's tail is a leg, and note that it still only has four legs. (Example due to Abraham Lincoln.)

    I am all for taking Republicans at their word when they pretend to be moral and righteous. Gen. Ben Butler is our model for that, when escaped slaves were making their way to Union lines in the Civil War, and their owners demanded them back under the Fugitive Slave Law. Butler took them at their word that the slaves were their property, and confiscated them as contraband of war. He correctly noted that the owners could not simultaneously claim to be out of the Union, and at war with it, and claim the benefits of US law as if they were honest citizens.

    Similarly we can support the real Culture of Life, we can really Support the Troops, we can make War on actual Terror (on drone strikes and torture, that is, or murdering abortion doctors), even, to come back to Huckabee, we can be a Christian Nation (one in which we love everybody in the world as ourselves, so no exceptionalism; and also a Jewish/Muslim/Hindu/Sikh/Buddhist/atheist/etc. nation), and on and on. Like Gandhi, who was asked what he thought of Christianity, and replied, "I think it is excellent. They should try it."

    Not, of course, the actual racism, bigotry, misogyny, and kleptocracy that increasingly became the actual policies of the Republican Party since the Southern Strategy began and the Religious Right was invited to take over. And now there just aren't enough angry White men left to sustain them. It couldn't happen to more deserving people.

    America—We built that!

    by Mokurai on Wed Dec 26, 2012 at 11:04:39 AM PST

  •  "Jesus Christ, I H8 Huckabee!" - God [n/t] (0+ / 0-)
  •  Regarding thos line: (1+ / 0-)
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    This first thing that Mr. Huckabee does not understand or chooses to ignore is that no one in this country has ever been forced to be a Christian.
    You obviously didn't grow in the town where I did.

    Not only was peer pressure (and parental pressure and community pressure, etc.) put on a lot of people there, there were also reports by credible sources of force being used.

    And I have a strong feeling my town was not unique.

    Nope - Huck is not right in any way, and never has been.

    I am not religious, and did NOT say I enjoyed sects.

    by trumpeter on Wed Dec 26, 2012 at 12:59:47 PM PST

    •  Actually... (0+ / 0-)

      I was born and raised in Chicago, but lived in Holland, MI, from grades 6-12. Holland was known as the "City of Churches", and is the reason my family ended up there(My father being a pastor). So I am intimately familiar with both the pressure put on you by family and the pressure put on you by your peers. However through all of that I came to my views on religion, by choice. And that is my point. If being fully immersed in religious culture my entire life(church 4 times a week, Christian school, youth groups, etc.) Didn't "force" me to believe, than nothing will. So what is his solution, given that you can't force belief, but by everyone believing, nothing bad would ever happen? 'Cause that's a bold statement- "I have a fool-proof way to end all human suffering. Just believe everything I do." Okay. How?

  •  If Fuckerbee is correct then God is an (1+ / 0-)
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    evil bastard that deserves to have a nuke shoved up His ass.  Thankfully that is not the case as a jealous god would make his/its presence known in a way that no atheist/agnostic could ignore and at the very least could only be explained as a "sufficiently advanced (moderately to strongly godlike) alien".

    You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

    by Throw The Bums Out on Wed Dec 26, 2012 at 01:31:33 PM PST

  •  No. Let's not say he is correct. (0+ / 0-)

    There is no sense in even thinking, much less writing those words.

    Mike Huckabee's little diatribes are based on a self-righteous buble he lives in. He ignores reality like this:

    Woman shot at rural church 1 of 3 killed by Pa. gunman who is fatally shot by state troopers

    December 21, 2012

    [editorial comment, please note the date. Did it change Huckabee's perspective? At all? Even a teeny bit?]

    HOLLIDAYSBURG, Pa. — A man fatally shot a woman decorating for a children’s Christmas party at a tiny church hall and killed two men elsewhere in a rural central Pennsylvania township Friday before he was fatally shot in a gunfight with state troopers.

    She was at church, glorifying the birth of Jesus by decorating for the celebration of his birth on a Friday. How much more faithful did she need to be?

    Perhaps God let her get shot to death because the church was located in "Hollisdayburg" and not "Christmasburg."

    Also, Maurice Clemmons.  This convicted felon (with over 100 years worth of prison sentence) told Governor Huckabee that he had become a Christian, so he was given clemency despite a life of repeated violent crimes.  

    There are four dead police officers in Washington State as a result.  

    Mike Huckabee is correct about nothing. Nothing. Nothing.  Nothing.  

    I usually am willing to listen to people, to give them the benefit of the doubt, to consider the one nugget of truth with their narrative of falsehoods.

    But not this guy. He sells hatred, bitterness and seeks to divide people. And he has the blood of four good people on his hands.

    © grover


    So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

    by grover on Wed Dec 26, 2012 at 02:24:50 PM PST

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