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Hurricane Sandy may turn out to be the final coffin nail in the lucrative climate change denial industry. They're still powerful, they're still kicking, but there are signs it's mostly death jags at this point. Sadly, they've done serious damage already:
Future climate change will depend on the energy choices we make today and how the climate system responds to our emissions. The United States and other countries have pledged to limit warming to no more than 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit above pre-industrial levels. But policies currently in place won't meet that goal. Instead, we're on track to experience more than 7 degrees of warming by the end of the century. That wouldn't be a "new normal." That would be a different planet.
That's no exaggeration. Seven degrees could ultimately mean no permanent ice cap on either pole, weather erratic to say the least, coastlines unrecognizable, and hurricanes that might better be called hypercanes. Odds are we're going to get a free preview of some of that stuff over the next few years. Happy 2013!
  • If Judge Roy Moore (R-Grifter) didn't exist it  might be necessary to invent him for sheer fun. His latest howler? Biological evolution is shredding the US Constitution!
  • It seems only fair, given the havoc created by tornados as recently as Christmas, that we should be able to harness these killer votices and put them to work.
  • Just. Fucking. Sad.
  • Are you a science teacher who wants to fire up your students, and maybe get one hell of a wild ride out of it in the bargain? Check this out:
    It accomplishes this by engaging their teachers through actual suborbital spaceflight for some teachers and extraordinary space related experiences and unique teaching materials for others. The end goal of Teachers In Space is to spark a transfer of passion from teachers to their students ...



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  •  my first surprise of the week (11+ / 0-)

    Woo! and I didn't even know. I recommend googling yourself you never know!

  •  Ham radio contacts with the space station (11+ / 0-)

    are a good way to get students involved.

    Unfortunately, NASA seems to have laid off their logistics support coordinator, Carol Jackson.

    Budget cuts to NASA education program.

  •  From a historical perspective T.I.S (10+ / 0-)

    Teacher in Space Project

    The Teacher in Space Project (TISP) was a NASA program announced by Ronald Reagan in 1984 designed to inspire students, honor teachers, and spur interest in mathematics, science, and space exploration.

    The program was cancelled in 1990 following the death of its first participant, Christa McAuliffe, in the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster (STS-51-L) four years earlier.

    In the early 21st Century, the Teacher in Space project was revived in the private sector. The development of reusable, suborbital launch vehicles by commercial companies makes it possible for nonprofit groups to contemplate sending large numbers of teachers into space. The new Teachers in Space program (plural to indicate that many teachers would be involved) began in 2005. In March 2005, Teacher in Space candidate Pam Leestma, a second-grade teacher and cousin of Space Shuttle astronaut David Leestma, completed a training flight aboard a MiG-21 operated by X-Rocket, LLC.[6] In 2006, the United States Rocket Academy partnered with the Space Frontier Foundation.[7]

    As the Elites Come Together to Rise Above to Find a Third Way to do Rude things to the 99%

    by JML9999 on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 06:11:18 AM PST

  •  climate/guns/taxes (4+ / 0-)

    These seemingly unrelated items are obviously tied together by money.  Treason for money is more heinous than treason for ideology.  Until Dems call out deniers/the NRA/selfish bastards--we will continue to have shitty government.  They are traitors--"We need a revolution, now."

    Apres Bush, le deluge.

    by melvynny on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 06:23:03 AM PST

  •  That turtle story is so sad. (16+ / 0-)

    It reminds me of my father's comment that the problem with original sin is that it so rarely is.

    I wonder what other markers would be found in that 1%? Sociopathy?

    Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

    by Wee Mama on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 06:26:31 AM PST

    •  People also swerve to hit snakes. (14+ / 0-)

      I, too, found the story both sad and discouraging.  There is a deep lack of respect for life and for the role all living things play in the functioning of our world.

      Hat is off to the young researcher and his adviser for tackling this topic.  Even better that it got national play in yesterday's NYT.

      •  And small furry woodland creatues... (5+ / 0-)

        It seems that if the critter is too small to damage your vehicle, it's fair game, so to speak. Squirrels, raccoons,  and rabbits, definitely. Skunks maybe not so much.

        "I was so easy to defeat, I was so easy to control, I didn't even know there was a war." -9.75, -8.41

        by RonV on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 06:51:23 AM PST

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      •  My racist neighbor ran over a snake in the road (8+ / 0-)

        last summer and stopped to tell me about it:

        Yeah - I ranned over him and then backed up to make sure. hehh heh."
        It was a harmless rat snake.

        I used to literally save snakes from the folks at the mental health center I used to work at: the snakes would try to get into the building - why, I don't know - and would be around the back entrance, terrifying everybody but me, apparently.

        I'd go snatch them up and toss them across a fence to a wooded area in back. I got to protect the snakes and see great looks of bewilderment on the faces of the normal mortals.

        The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

        by xxdr zombiexx on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 06:57:37 AM PST

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        •  What. A. Dumbass. (3+ / 0-)
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          I know some folks that live out in the country in Tennessee.  They've long held that the best neighbor they ever could get would be a nice big rat snake, to help keep their place from being overrun by vermin.

          They knew what snakes were good for, and welcomed them.

          Me?  I was the one to pick a rat snake off the road and put it on a nice warm rock as far away from the highway as I could.  I know what snakes are good for, too.

        •  Don't (2+ / 0-)
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          RonV, xxdr zombiexx

          get me wrong, intentionally running over snakes sucks, intentionally running over anything sucks. But I find hitting small turtles even worse for some reason. Maybe because there's misinformation on snakes that makes a chunk of the public not like them. Maybe it's because most small mammals have fast enough reflexes and big enough brains that at least they have a fighting chance when negotiating a road crossing.

          Everyone knows turtles are harmless, every one grows up knowing they are classic slowpokes, most people if pressed would say they like turtles way more than snakes or spiders, and everyone knows they are not particularly bright. Trying to crush them on purpose is about as bad as it gets, maybe trying to mow down baby seals or helpless new born pups would be worse, but not by much.

      •  and feel virtuous though there are only 4 venomous (7+ / 0-)

        varieties here with 3 being any sort of threat.  Only about 10% of snakes here are venomous and less than 1% of those actually bite a human though many black racers and Northern water snakes die as "moccasins"  (some here still think coachwhips roll into a hoop and chase you, which is why some call them hoop snakes ) and many hognoses are killed as being adders.

        People also kill spiders though only Brown Recluse and Black Widows are any threat.

        More people die each year from bee sting than from snake or spider bite but most people don't believe me

        •  Years ago I discovered a very cold sidewinder .... (3+ / 0-)
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          enhydra lutris, Wee Mama, RonV

          under a hay bale near a house that I knew contained twin toddlers.  My first thought was how do I protect the kids without taking the snake's life.  Since it was a cold day and the sidewinder was not all that active I found a bucket and maneuvered the snake into it.  I carried the bucket and snake into a patch of nearby desert and dropped it in what appeared to be an abundant rodent hole.  

          To be fair I have killed one snake deliberately in my life - a small diamondback that I found next to the porch in Tucson. I still regret that, but  then I was just moving in and was not sure where to move the snake.  It wound up as a specimen I sent to a herpetologist.

          Two of my employers at two different universities really hated rattlesnakes so I kept my tendencies to myself, although I saw a fair number of them doing fieldwork and if I was alone they went away from our encounter unmolested.

          As for turtles, that is just plain sick!  I would not trust anybody who would run over a turtle deliberately!

          •  This discussion brought up a memory that ... (2+ / 0-)
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            enhydra lutris, Wee Mama

            I could never have admitted to my two employers who hated rattlesnakes.  A friend of mine and I had driven his new Volkswagon up to Mt. Palomar back in the early 1960s.  As we returned down the mountain we spotted a very beautiful Pacific rattler crossing the road.  As the road was fairly busy we stopped to chase the snake off the road.  It did not take kindly to our interference, but we finally got it to move and I hope stay off the highway at least for then.

            I can just imaging what my supervisors would have said about my save the rattlesnake attitude!  Turtles I routinely try to save.

            Just call me a tree-hugger, rattlesnake herder!  

          •  I (3+ / 0-)
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            killed a diamond back once. I felt terrible doing it, but it was dusk in a park at the height of the season on a well traveled foot trail surrounded by campsites, roads, and other well traveled foot trails with kids and adults all around laughing and running to and fro and completely oblivious. It was either kill it or let it go, it was summer, this thing was at least five feet long and as thick as my upper arm, the head was almost the size of my hand. After killing it we examined at the business end and the needle sharp fangs were a full inch or more in length.

            This was a rare snake, one that really could deliver a fatal bite where the nearest hospital was two or three hours away and there were kids all over the place for miles around. The place was so full of people that afternoon I don't know how the damn thing made it to where it did without being seen 50 times. I had to decide quick because it was heading under some rocks, but to this day I feel awful about it.

            •  I have killed snakes and have even (0+ / 0-)

              eaten snakes but in general I move them to safer climes if they will cooperate with me.  Arthritis prevents me from catching them by hand any more but a shovel or pitchfork can often be used as a conveyance

    •  I believe you nailed it. I have witnessed this (9+ / 0-)

      behavior with snakes, cats, turtles, dogs, squirrels, etc.,

      I saw a pretty lady in a fancy SUV actually try and hit a soft shelled turtle one time. WTH? Luckily those types of turtles are fast, and the turtle made it to the drainage ditch before old Cruella could run it over.

      The kids and I stop [when ever it's safe to do so] to help turtles and snakes across the road.

    •  It's really disturbing (6+ / 0-)

      And, as mentioned upthread, it's not just turtles.

      Where I live birds have a habit of flying right in front of moving cars, sometimes landing on the ground. I don't know if they are suicidal or what, but I go out of my way to avoid them.  Including doing all of the "wrong" things like slamming on my brakes and turning into the oncoming lane. I hit one once and still feel awful about it.

      •  I (1+ / 0-)
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        don't think anyone would hold it against you for not taking prohibitively dangerous evasive action when a bird flies into your car. Birds have great eyes, great reflexes, and it's not just that they can fly, they can turn on a dime in midair in a tenth of a second. I don't want to say it's their fault if one flies into your car, but it's sure not your fault -- or the person's fault driving in the lane next to you -- when one does.

    •  The turtle story (5+ / 0-)

      was upsetting.  If a person needs to kill an animal with their car, then they must have very low self-esteem.

    •  I actually saw (4+ / 0-)

      something on the road near my home that was right on the double yellow lines in the middle of the road. I slowed down to see what it was a box turtle halfway across the road with speeding 45mph cars passing by. I stopped on the side of the road, got out and observed the slow progress he/she was making. i decided he needed help or he would be hit.

      I picked him up and put him down on the grass in the direction he was going. I have rescued a few turtles in this manner since then.

      I had NO idea someone would try to intentionally hit one. Horrible. Really, I pray for MY species when I read things like this.

      Truth is harmonious, lies are discordant.

      by Babsnc on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 07:52:47 AM PST

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    •  I read somewhere, can't recall where (2+ / 0-)
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      Wee Mama, RonV

      That 1% of the population are psychopaths, 4% are sociopaths.

  •  "Evolution affects your mental processes" (4+ / 0-)
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    Ender, RonV, LynChi, enhydra lutris

    If only that were true. Hey "Judge" (Dred) Moore, I don't think I'm better than everyone who came before because I understand something about evolution. I do however, think Im a better man than crazy old fuckers like yourself.

  •  That tornado idea is really dumb (5+ / 0-)

    They use heat to create a tornado and then try to get the energy out of the tornado. Why not just use the heat to begin with?

    Power a Stirling engine with that heat!

    The comments at the tornado story link are pretty good. Such as, "This has a great B-rate disaster movie written all over it!"

    •  She can't stand much more...she's breaking up!! (3+ / 0-)
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      RonV, enhydra lutris, Ender

      What could go wrong?

      The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

      by xxdr zombiexx on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 07:11:01 AM PST

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    •  No, the heat added in the beginning is just to (1+ / 0-)
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      They use heat to create a tornado and then try to get the energy out of the tornado. Why not just use the heat to begin with?
      get the tornado started.  The energy in the tornado comes from the difference in temperature between the air at ground level and the air at high altitude.  

      A poor analogy: when starting a car, electrical energy is extracted from the battery to run the starter motor.  This then starts the gasoline or diesel engine and the power to move the car comes from the fuel via the engine.  

      Renewable energy brings national global security.     

      by Calamity Jean on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 11:02:04 AM PST

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  •  Wish this could be the year for a (5+ / 0-)

    world wide carbon tax. Climate is changing and unless people do a bit more than admit that the daily weather sucks occasionally, not much will prevent it.

    "There's a crack in everything; that's how the light gets in". Leonard Cohen

    by northsylvania on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 06:36:24 AM PST

  •  How about non of the above (3+ / 0-)
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    RonV, DarkSyde, enhydra lutris

    on the poll. I recommend the self service option, always more effective.

    Just a guy made of dots and lines.

    by BobX on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 06:39:26 AM PST

  •  You'd think Mitch McConnell... (4+ / 0-)

    would be all over this turtle thing.

    "I was so easy to defeat, I was so easy to control, I didn't even know there was a war." -9.75, -8.41

    by RonV on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 06:41:30 AM PST

  •  I already live on a different planet (5+ / 0-)

    My area is undergoing desertification.

    Tornadoes in winter--year round actually have always been a hazard here, in Oklahoma, but rare outside the designated tornado season. Now it appears our tornado alley has moved N and E, along with our rain.

    •  heh - I am reading with old glasses today (4+ / 0-)

      and I first read "area" as "arse" and thought that MUST be painful...

      Serious note; my parents are in their mid-80's now and we often talk about how the weather has changed since abut the time I was born (no, it's not my fault - it' ASl Gore's fault).

      They need no convincing on climate change. Dad grw up on a farm in the 30's and 40's in southern Illinois. He and mom lived in Florida in the 50's and they returned in the 90's and still talk about how much thw eather had changed.

      The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

      by xxdr zombiexx on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 07:03:25 AM PST

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  •  The Traveling Space Museum (4+ / 0-)
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    RonV, foresterbob, TexMex, enhydra lutris

    Dunno about Teachers in Space, but a friend of mine runs The Traveling Space Museum, which exists to give schoolchildren a hands-on space flight experience.

  •  BBC: "Energy Independence for the US" (4+ / 0-)

    Oh, good Lord.

    It explains it. It explains why Obama would go to the wall for oil. It explains why there would be open season on the climate, the water, the soil: US energy independence.

    It's the great game.

    We can finally do what we want with the middle east, if we're independent. We'll be invulnerable to pressure, if we're independent. I.e. it's all about US power.

    That's cold comfort in a century with nothing else cold.

    People complain about dirt, but I'd like to see them make some.

    by The Geogre on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 06:46:40 AM PST

    •  Speaking from an engineer's viewpoint (1+ / 0-)
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      The Geogre

      Not going to happen.  Not with fossil fuels.

      •  "Independent" doesn't mean independent (0+ / 0-)

        "Energy independence" has been a codeword since Nixon, I think, for "independent of OPEC." For example, the tar sands tarbaby is obviously not "U.S. independence," because it's Canadian.

        The reasons to strive for the "free from OPEC" or "free from cartel" are long, but we could have been independent already with conservation. The gibbering idiots who shout about how the "guvmunt" should "live within its means" never think that we should do the same with oil. Furthermore, being free from OPEC will not mean being free from a cartel, because Clinton-to-Obama has built corporate capital structures that operate extranationally and in cartel interests. (I.e. Goldman and oil futures is nothing compared to the whole crew of them holding the neck of the spot market.)

        People complain about dirt, but I'd like to see them make some.

        by The Geogre on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 09:44:39 AM PST

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  •  I'd almost wish Nathan Weaver got the (4+ / 0-)
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    RonV, LynChi, DarkSyde, enhydra lutris

    license plate numbers of all those who tried to run over his turtle. If only to contact the drivers and ask what the hell they we're thinking.

    God be with you, Occupiers. God IS with you.

    by Hohenzollern on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 06:55:56 AM PST

  •  If they put that turtle out here in Georgia (2+ / 0-)
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    RonV, enhydra lutris

    that would be about 700 people trying to hit  it.

    It's a sport for a resident subspecies.

    The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

    by xxdr zombiexx on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 06:59:37 AM PST

  •  You've got to include GA rep Paul Broun (4+ / 0-)

    who uttered these immortal words:

    "All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and the big bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of Hell."

    What makes this even more ridiculous is that Broun has a medical degree.

  •  admit climate change? (6+ / 0-)

    these guys won't even admit smoking ciggies is bad for you

  •  I call customer service. (4+ / 0-)

    But...I make sure that person who answers the phone is in the US of A.  I ask them where they're located.  Alot of times, they equivocate and say something like a "US Territory".  If they won't guarantee that they are physically located in the USA, then I ask to be switched to someone in the USA.  They usually say that they need to get basic information first.  I refuse.  I ask to speak to their manager and again demand to speak to someone in the USA.  I usually get there and when I do, I ask that person where they are located and thank them for doing their job.  I further state that I've refused to talk with their representatives in another country, as I believe these should be American jobs.  If everyone would do this, it would go a long way toward ending the outsourcing of these jobs.

    Abortion Clinics OnLine, the world's first and largest source for online abortion clinic information. Join my DK Abortion Group.

    by annrose on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 07:16:53 AM PST

    •  Sympathy for call center workers (2+ / 0-)
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      enhydra lutris, RonV

      The average pay for call center workers in India is $2,100 per year.  They often have 12-14 hr workdays.  One study by the Indian Labor Ministry describes the typical working atmosphere as similar to "19th-century prisons or Roman slave ships."

      Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.

      by winsock on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 08:09:16 AM PST

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  •  You need "A PIE IN THE FACE" for a poll option (1+ / 0-)
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    enhydra lutris

    Not voting in this one until you do.

    Some people are intolerant, and I CAN'T STAND people like that. -- Tom Lehrer

    by TheCrank on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 07:17:43 AM PST

  •  People that purposely run over turtles (1+ / 0-)
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    are cruel.  They probably beat their children or wish they could beat their children.

    One way to encourage sensitivity to animals is for children to take care of animals.  Perhaps there needs to be more interaction in schools between children and animals.

    Children that help with gardens are more likely to eat the veggies that come from that garden.  I feel confident that children that learn about turtles will not run over turtles when they reach the age where they can drive cars.

  •  Regarding turtles and other creatures... (0+ / 0-)

    It is too coincidental on a 40k/h (25mph) neighborhood roadway to see so much roadkill for those to be accidental killings.

    Even at this slow speed, I see squirrels and other animals mushed into the macadam. Now squirrels can run fast, but sometimes they stop. Still, as you are watching the little critter cross the road and you're still 30 meters out (~100 ft) you could slow or stop. But no, these little critters are targeted.

    What do we teach people? Fun? Hobby? Sport?

    Meh. Bad. Drivers. (take their license away for roadkill)

    Ugh. --UB.

    "Daddy, every time a bell rings, a Libertaria­n picks up his Pan Am tickets for the Libertaria­n Paradise of East Somalia!"

    by unclebucky on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 08:58:27 AM PST

  •  Regarding tech support... (0+ / 0-)

    I prefer a phone call for screwy tech problems, but for something that is not as complex, I can do a chat easily.

    I have had the greatest pleasure dealing with call centers located in Manila, New Brunswick, Mexico City, and even (yes) in the US where the agent is a born nice person, trained in the subject and is able to step into the shoes of the caller.

    In these places people around 20-something or even older have been hired and are trained to "get it" about the needs of the caller. In Manila and Mexico City, I have worked with agents who learned English so well that I could not place them outside of NW Chicago, eh? And of course in Canada, they speak better English than we do.

    But I always ask, "and where is your call center located?" Not to trap anyone or to cause a problem, but to inquire the location for my own curiosity (the English is flat and plainly Inland/Midland US English) as well as to let the agent know that this is important to me. I then compliment them on their English -- so they know that their professionalism is appreciated and to counteract any bagguer or flag-waver without a mind, I guess.

    I enjoy solving problems, and in the last few years, I have only met agents who love to do that, too. For those of you who run into really bad agents, sorry, but this is really my experience. Finally, even when I get someone who is in there over their heads or having trouble with English, I try to help them to help me rather than attacking them. I however would really like to meet the "suits" or "bottom liners" who formerly had sold out US workers abroad, but that's not the battle at the moment, which is to solve my DSL, U-verse, printer, operating system or hardware problem, not to take it out on some agent.



    "Daddy, every time a bell rings, a Libertaria­n picks up his Pan Am tickets for the Libertaria­n Paradise of East Somalia!"

    by unclebucky on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 09:09:14 AM PST

  •  And now a post about the Metric System... (0+ / 0-)

    Look, kids, we gotta do something about the continued use of the antique English System of measurements. I know that a lot of folks ran afowl of the traditionalists when trying to convert the Nation to S.I.

    The greatest problem has been the teaching of converting back and forth between the English System and S.I. A thoroughly worthless endeavour. Simply, what is needed is to teach S.I. via landmarks and easily understood equivalents. Thus:

    30 is hot.
    20 is NICE.
    10 is cool.
    and 0 is ICE.

    In addition, there are many programs that avoid converting back and forth and instead interpret S.I. in things or conditions that we are already familiar with: You can go an average of 100 km in an hour on a typical expressway. A liter of gas is a lot cheaper, haha, than a gallon. Square meters are easier to deal with than square yards. And so on...

    Darksyde, I am not the type to be able to focus on a diary. But I think that this year (after getting through 2012 - the year of hate of anything progressive, it seems) should be the year that over the whole Nation we start on the path to conventional use of S.I.

    How about it?


    "Daddy, every time a bell rings, a Libertaria­n picks up his Pan Am tickets for the Libertaria­n Paradise of East Somalia!"

    by unclebucky on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 09:20:56 AM PST

    •  BTW, a reference: (0+ / 0-)

      Metric for Me!
      A layperson's guide to the Metric System for Everyday Use  with exercises, problems and estimations*.

      Robert W. Shoemaker
      Prof. Emeritus of History
      North Central College

      Really spiffy.


      "Daddy, every time a bell rings, a Libertaria­n picks up his Pan Am tickets for the Libertaria­n Paradise of East Somalia!"

      by unclebucky on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 09:23:56 AM PST

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    •  You must like cooler temperatures than I do. (0+ / 0-)

      30 C = 86 F = summer room temperature
      20 C = 68 F = winter room temperature (brrrr)

      Those are the only two equivalents I've memorized.  As global warming advances, I suspect we'll all get familiar with higher ranges.  Future summer outdoor temperatures?:  

      40 C = 104 F
      50 C = 122 F
      60 C = 140 F

      Renewable energy brings national global security.     

      by Calamity Jean on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 07:27:25 PM PST

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  •  C'mon Climate Change Is Not Real (0+ / 0-)

    Most experts in this field are wrong.  Weather is not that bad and if it is, it is Gods will or the Devil's.  There, all the bases are covere, so screw you KOS:  you are just a bunch of earth loving, people oriented noise makers.  Have a Great New Year and make more noice, please, it means nothing, but causes the quaint to be very amused.  

  •  OK. I'm stunned at the turtle thing. (1+ / 0-)
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    Now, I understand that maybe you don't swerve to miss a turtle if there is some danger you will send car off road or slide into oncoming traffic. I'd feel terrible if I hit an animal, but I have been faced with making that decision, and I did hit an animal rather than risk my own life.

    But swerving purposefully to hit the thing? I never even thought of that. I mean, yes there are the jokes about points for old people, blah, blah. But to go out of one's way to hit a living creature just doesn't enter into my thinking. I never thought anyone except a complete psychopath would do that.

    Indifference. Turtle is in my lane, well, OK, I would swerve to miss if I could, but I can see saying that's just unfortunate. But swerving to hit it?

    by Magenta on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 12:59:41 PM PST

  •  I have a virtual lawn of wild tomato plants (0+ / 0-)

    growing in one of my yards from seeds left in the soil from tomatoes tilled over last fall.  Some of the plants are a foot high and have blossoms.  

    I wonder if I'll have cherry tomatoes for my salads by groundhog's day.  That would be neat.  The earth loses the north pole, but, HEY, at least I get early tomatoes.  Fair enough.

    I should set up a sign and give free tours to global warming deniers.

    (I'm in Long Beach, California, close to L.A.).

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