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Yes, the GOP lies about everything. They have no ideas at all. A Townhall column by Professor Laura Hollis of Notre Dame Law/Business illustrates their problem.

But let's not be complacent. We are facing a very difficult battle in 2014 from people who do not have a grasp of even the most basic facts, but are filled with rage and hubris. I've given to DK and to a Democratic US senator facing re-election, and hope you will do likewise.

Crossposted from Mercury Rising

This is Laura Hollis's LinkedIn page

This is what the Notre Dame Law School Directory says
Maybe the directory is out of date. Maybe she got a recent promotion. But this is not the kind of discrepancy a professional wants to have out there.

The following is what I received from a right-winger who unfortunately has my e-mail address. If there are any differences from the original Townhall column, I haven't added them, except that the bolding of text is emphasis I have added.


    Laura Hollis, Nov 08, 2012

    Laura Hollis is:
    Current: Associate Professional Specialist and Concurrent Associate
    Professor of Law at University of Notre Dame.  
    Past: Director at Gigot Center for Entrepreneurial Studies, Associate
    Director and Clinical Professor at University of Illinois at
    Education: University of Notre Dame Law School, University of Notre Dame.
    Summary: She has 20+ years’ experience in curriculum and other program
    development and delivery.

    I am already reading so many pundits and other talking heads analyzing the disaster that was this year’s elections. I am adding my own ten cents. Here goes:

    1. We are outnumbered. We accurately foresaw the enthusiasm, the passion, the commitment, the determination, and the turnout. Married women, men, independents, Catholics, evangelicals – they all went for Romney in percentages as high or higher than the groups which voted for McCain in 2008. It wasn’t enough. What we saw in the election on Tuesday was a tipping point: we are now at a place where there are legitimately fewer Americans who desire a free republic with a free people than there are those who think the government should give them stuff. There are fewer of us who believe in the value of free exchange and free enterprise. There are fewer of us who do not wish to demonize successful people in order to justify taking from them. We are outnumbered. For the moment. It’s just that simple.

    2. It wasn’t the candidate(s). Some are already saying, “Romney was the wrong guy”; “He should have picked Marco Rubio to get Florida/Rob Portman to get Ohio/Chris Christie to get [someplace else].” With all due respect, these assessments are incorrect. Romney ran a strategic and well-organized campaign. Yes, he could have hit harder on Benghazi. But for those who would have loved that, there are those who would have found it distasteful. No matter what tactic you could point to that Romney could have done better, it would have been spun in a way that was detrimental to his chances. Romney would have been an excellent president, and Ryan was an inspired choice. No matter who we ran this year, they would have lost. See #1, above.

    3. It’s the culture, stupid. We have been trying to fight this battle every four years at the voting booth. It is long past time we admit that is not where the battle really is. We abdicated control of the culture – starting back in the 1960s. And now our largest primary social institutions – education, the media, Hollywood (entertainment) have become really nothing more than an assembly line for cranking out reliable little Leftists. Furthermore, we have allowed the government to undermine the institutions that instill good character – marriage, the family, communities, schools, our churches. So, here we are, at least two full generations later – we are reaping what we have sown. It took nearly fifty years to get here; it will take another fifty years to get back. But it starts with the determination to reclaim education, the media, and the entertainment business. If we fail to do that, we can kiss every election goodbye from here on out. And much more.

    4. America has become a nation of adolescents The real loser in this election was adulthood: Maturity. Responsibility. The understanding that liberty must be accompanied by self-restraint. Obama is a spoiled child, and the behavior and language of his followers and their advertisements throughout the campaign makes it clear how many of them are, as well. Romney is a grown-up. Romney should have won. Those of us who expected him to win assumed that voters would act like grownups. Because if we were a nation of grownups, he would have won.

    But what did win? Sex. Drugs. Bad language. Bad manners. Vulgarity. Lies. Cheating. Name-calling. Finger-pointing. Blaming. And irresponsible spending. This does not bode well. People grow up one of two ways: either they choose to, or circumstances force them to. The warnings are all there, whether it is the looming economic disaster, or the inability of the government to respond to crises like Hurricane Sandy, or the growing strength and brazenness of our enemies. American voters stick their fingers in their ears and say, “Lalalalalala, I can’t hear you.” It is unpleasant to think about the circumstances it will take to force Americans to grow up. It is even more unpleasant to think about Obama at the helm when those circumstances arrive.

    5. Yes, there is apparently a Vagina Vote. It’s the subject matter of another column in its entirety to point out, one by one, all of the inconsistencies and hypocrisies of the Democrats this year. Suffice it to say that the only “war on women” was the one waged by the Obama campaign, which sexualized and objectified women, featuring them dressed up like vulvas at the Democrat National Convention, appealing to their “lady parts,” comparing voting to losing your virginity with Obama, trumpeting the thrills of destroying our children in the womb (and using our daughters in commercials to do so), and making Catholics pay for their birth control. For a significant number of women, this was appealing. It might call into question the wisdom of the Nineteenth Amendment, but for the fact that large numbers of women (largely married) used their “lady smarts” instead. Either way, Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton are rolling over in their graves.

    6. It’s not about giving up on “social issues” No Republican candidate should participate in a debate or go out on the stump without thorough debate prep and a complete set of talking points that they stick to. This should start with a good grounding in biology and a reluctance to purport to know the will of God. (Thank you, Todd and Richard.)

    That said, we do not hold the values we do because they garner votes. We hold the values we do because we believe that they are time-tested principles without which a civilized, free and prosperous society is not possible.

    We defend the unborn because we understand that a society which views some lives as expendable is capable of viewing all lives as expendable.

    We defend family – mothers, fathers, marriage, children – because history makes it quite clear that societies without intact families quickly descend into anarchy and barbarism, and we have plenty of proof of that in our inner cities where marriage is infrequent and unwed motherhood approaches 80 percent. When Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973, many thought that the abortion cause was lost. Forty years later, ultrasound technology has demonstrated the inevitable connection between science and morality. More Americans than ever define themselves as “pro-life.” What is tragic is that tens of millions of children have lost their lives while Americans figure out what should have been obvious before. There is no “giving up” on social issues. There is only the realization that we have to fight the battle on other fronts. The truth will win out in the end.

    7. Obama does not have a mandate. And he does not need one. I have to laugh – bitterly – when I read conservative pundits trying to assure us that Obama “has to know” that he does not have a mandate, and so he will have to govern from the middle. I don’t know what they’re smoking. Obama does not care that he does not have a mandate. He does not view himself as being elected (much less re-elected) to represent individuals. He views himself as having been re-elected to complete the “fundamental transformation” of America, the basic structure of which he despises. Expect much more of the same – largely the complete disregard of the will of half the American public, his willingness to rule by executive order, and the utter inability of another divided Congress to rein him in. Stanley Kurtz has it all laid out here.

    8. The Corrupt Media – is the enemy too strong? I don’t think so. I have been watching the media try to throw elections since at least the early 1990s. In 2008 and again this year, we saw the media cravenly cover up for the incompetence and deceit of this President, while demonizing a good, honorable and decent man with lies and smears. This is on top of the daily barrage of insults that conservatives (and by that I mean the electorate, not the politicians) must endure at the hands of this arrogant bunch of elitist snobs. Bias is one thing. What we observed with Benghazi was professional malpractice and fraud. They need to go. Republicans, Libertarians and other conservatives need to be prepared to play hardball with the Pravda press from here on out. And while we are at it, to defend those journalists of whatever political stripe (Jake Tapper, Sharyl Atkisson, Eli Lake) who actually do their jobs. As well as Fox News and talk radio. Because you can fully expect a re-elected Obama to try to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine in term 2.

    9. Small business and entrepreneurs will be hurt the worst For all the blather about “Wall Street versus Main Street,” Obama’s statist agenda will unquestionably benefit the biggest corporations which – as with the public sector unions – are in the best position to make campaign donations, hire lobbyists, and get special exemptions carved out from Obama’s health care laws, his environmental regulations, his labor laws. It will be the small business, the entrepreneur, and the first-time innovators who will be crushed by their inability to compete on a level playing field.

    10. America is more polarized than ever; and this time it’s personal. I’ve been following politics for a long time, and it feels different this time. Not just for me. I’ve received messages from other conservatives who are saying the same thing: there is little to no tolerance left out there for those who are bringing this country to its knees – even when they have been our friends. It isn’t just about “my guy” versus “your guy.” It is my view of America versus your view of America – a crippled, hemorrhaging, debt-laden, weakened and dependent America that I want no part of and resent being foisted on me. I no longer have any patience for stupidity, blindness, or vulgarity, so with each dumb “tweet” or FB post by one of my happily lefty comrades, another one bites the dust, for me. Delete. What does this portend for a divided Congress? I expect that Republicans will be demoralized and chastened for a short time. But I see them in a bad position. Americans in general want Congress to work together. But many do not want Obama’s policies, and so Republicans who support them will be toast. Good luck, guys.

    11. It’s possible that America just has to hit rock bottom. I truly believe that most Americans who voted for Obama have no idea what they are in for. Most simply believe him when he says that all he really wants is for the rich to pay “a little bit more.” So reasonable! Who could argue with that except a greedy racist? America is on a horrific bender. Has been for some time now. The warning signs of our fiscal profligacy and culture of lack of personal responsibility are everywhere – too many to mention. We need only look at other countries which have gone the route we are walking now to see what is in store.

    For the past four years – but certainly within the past campaign season – we have tried to warn Americans. Too many refuse to listen, even when all of the events that have transpired during Obama’s presidency – unemployment, economic stagnation, skyrocketing prices, the depression of the dollar, the collapse of foreign policy, Benghazi, hopelessly inept responses to natural disasters – can be tied directly to Obama’s statist philosophies, and his decisions.

    What that means, I fear, is that they will not see what is coming until the whole thing collapses. That is what makes me so sad today. I see the country I love headed toward its own “rock bottom,” and I cannot seem to reach those who are taking it there.

    Laura Hollis

Hollis does not even appear to remember that there was a hurricane before Sandy, one that devastated an American city and to which the government did not respond for a week. That was Katrina, and it happened while Republicans controlled all branches of government.

She doesn't know that employment cratered under George W. Bush and. She doesn't know that the dollar fell under Bush, and has been fairly stable under Obama. She doesn't remember embassy attacks in Karachi, Uzbekhistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Serbia, Athens, Yemen. She doesn't know that the reason the deficit exploded is the drop in revenues (tax cuts, financial crisis) and the costs of the financial crisis and the still-unresolved medical spending crisis.

And what was that great restoration of sexual morality under Dubya? Remind me-- was it Larry Craig, Mark Sanford, Vito Fossella, or many others we could name whose lives made examples for the youth to follow?

On and on, her historical memory is completely shaped by partisan ideology.

Now, we have all heard Hollis's rant in one form or another. Romney's loss is all the fault of the children who rejected the authority of the adults so that they could indulge in sex, drugs, and rampant spending. But we have not heard them from a (assistant? associate?) professor of law and business at a major university. This is a person who is expected to engage people with all points of view from her students, but she says she is simply shutting off communication with people who disagree with her. The press? That's "the enemy." Not Al Qaida. Jim Lehrer.

I gave a $25 contribution to DK and $100 to a US senator up for election two years from now. I hope you all will do likewise.

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  •  Another twit from Townhall (6+ / 0-)

    I have to be honest, I hadn't heard of that cesspool of conservative "thought" until this week. Wow, they're really working to make a name for themselves. She's not just drinking the Kool-Aid she's mixing up 55 gallon drums of the stuff for distribution.

    What's wrong with America? I'll tell you. Everything Romney said was pre-chewed wads of cud from Republicans from the last 30 years and yet he managed thru a combination of racism and selling the (false) hope of riches to get 47% of the national vote.

    by ontheleftcoast on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 01:49:30 PM PST

  •  i am more embarrassed by my alma mater (5+ / 0-)

    as an ND alum, i am more embarrassed by my alma mater NOW, having read this drivel by an ND faculty, than i have ever been.  and that says a lot, given how my alma mater embarrasses me all the time with its bigotry and homophobia and very right-wing tendencies.


    yop! (horton hears a who)

    by dadanation on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 01:54:41 PM PST

    •  I wish that some ND alums... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...would straighten out the issue of her resume. Is she an assistant professor, as the law school says, or is she an associate professor, as her LinkedIn profile says?

      And how does her professed determination to stop talking to people of other political persuasions square with her duties as a teacher? If a liberal professor said these sorts of things, I kind of think the school or department would take an interest.

  •  More epistemic closure (2+ / 0-)
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    Bob Love, ontheleftcoast

    facts cannot penetrate the wall they have erected.

    America did vote on what it believes and a majority of Americans don't believe in the future that the GOP portends, so she is right in a couple of instances; they are outnumbered and it didn't matter who they put up for President, they were gonna lose.

    As for who are acting like adolescents, well I see one side having a temper tantrum and it ain't us liberals.

    "I watch Fox News for my comedy, and Comedy Central for my news." - Facebook Group

    by Sychotic1 on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 02:23:08 PM PST

  •  If you're busy (1+ / 0-)
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    Bob Love

    This reliable little Leftist will take their surrender in your stead.

    Too many refuse to listen, even when all of the events that have transpired during Obama’s presidency – unemployment, economic stagnation, skyrocketing prices, the depression of the dollar, the collapse of foreign policy, Benghazi, hopelessly inept responses to natural disasters – can be tied directly to Obama’s statist philosophies, and his decisions.
    Are we sure that the poor gal doesn't have her dates and her presidents mixed up? Barring this "Benghazi" concern of hers - Her complaining and whining sounds a whole lot like Bush "Junior's" tenure in the White House is what should have her panties in a wad.

    Poor people have too much money and vote too often. Republican platform plank, 1980 - present

    by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 02:26:55 PM PST

  •  She Is A Kook. Is She From Texas? ntx (0+ / 0-)
  •  Obama's usually the most adult person in the room. (3+ / 0-)

    This "spoiled child" shit shows the paucity of their analytical abilities.  Whatsername's rant consists of nothing but name-calling and persistent cluelessness.  On to the next whiner!

    "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10

    by Bob Love on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 02:39:53 PM PST

  •  I find nothing quite so disturbing as the extent (2+ / 0-)
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    misslegalbeagle, evangeline135

    to which wingnut complaints about Obama echo my own feelings during the Bush administration. Was I similarly insane? I'm pretty sure that I can build an authentic case for some of my extreme criticisms of the Bush/Cheney gang, but nonetheless I'm troubled. Is it them, or is it me? Or is it both of us?

    I mean, I've never believed that 9/11 was an Inside Job -- but not because I think Cheney was insufficiently evil to take out an iconic American financial building filled with American citizens, if it would help him get what he wants. No, I just don't think Cheney has the guts to take a chance like that. I don't actually think there is anything so spectacularly evil that Dick Cheney wouldn't arrange to have it done, in order to get what he wants: Except perhaps something that would bring immediate harm to one of his own children.

    I mean this quite literally: I do not believe Dick Cheney has any moral compass whatsoever. If he didn't arrange for concentration camps and genocides, it was only because it would have been very difficult and would have served no purpose.

    But then I see people leveling similar accusations against Obama, and all I can do is wonder, where do they get this stuff? I mean ... these are people who defend W/Cheney ... but think Obama is Hitler?

    Am I mad?

    To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

    by UntimelyRippd on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 02:48:58 PM PST

    •  Why would he exempt his own children? (1+ / 0-)
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      Ideology makes no exceptions.

      There are certainly individuals who lay baseless charges against political figures. In a nation of 300 million, there are all kinds.

      But a professor of law and business is supposed to be a role model, supposed to have a sense of balance. You can't enter a classroom and teach properly if you are filled with certainty about debatable things.

      I strongly support academic freedom and the right of faculty to say whatever they want. If I were a parent with a child entering law school, I would advise my child to stay far away from a teacher like this.

      •  aren't facts, data, reason, logic (0+ / 0-)

        the bedrock of academic thought? shouldn't a Professor of Law and Business employ those methods and criteria to publications of her ideas and conclusions?

        I would think her academic review board would want to know the extent to which she allows her emotions to override any consideration or regard for facts or logic when she represents the school in public forums...

        as you say she has the right to say whatever she wants to say or take any side in a political discussion, but to create (and obviously believe!) her own reality while demostrating no mastery or respect for the profession she represents? perhaps someone might want to inform her department heads?

        no man is completely worthless, he can always be used as a bad example.

        by srfRantz on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 11:25:12 AM PST

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      •  I wonder if she's there 'cuz she works for cheap? (0+ / 0-)

        I certainly hope the school isn't paying her more than she's worth - minimum wage & part-time hours schedule.

        BTW I'm not a fan of religion based schools.

        Something that doesn't make good sense, makes bad sense. That means someone is being deliberately hurtful & selfish. Look for motives behind actions & words.

        by CA wildwoman on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 04:45:22 AM PST

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    •  Not to go catch-22 on you, (0+ / 0-)

      But I think if you're asking the question you're not insane.

  •  The objectivity-impaired party (1+ / 0-)
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    Republicans, Libertarians and other conservatives need to be prepared to play hardball with the Pravda press from here on out. And while we are at it, to defend those journalists of whatever political stripe (Jake Tapper, Sharyl Atkisson, Eli Lake) who actually do their jobs. As well as Fox News and talk radio. Because you can fully expect a re-elected Obama to try to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine in term 2.
    Right-wing Idelogical logic: She knows with unwavering certainty that the President will reinstate the Fairness Doctrine yet insists that the media is in his pocket.

    So why would he need the Fairness Doctrine if the media is already doing his bidding?

    In reality, here's how her guy responds to a free press:

    Mitt Romney campaign representatives will meet with The Washington Post today to seek a formal retraction of its June 21 report that Bain Capital invested in firms that specialized in outsourcing American jobs, POLITICO has learned.

    The Romney campaign will demand a retraction from the Boston Globe Thursday for a report on numerous SEC filings from 1999 to 2001 that listed Romney as “sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president.” Romney has said he was CEO in name only, delegating all day-to-day operations to 26 managing directors at the firm from February 1999 on.
    Univision Anchor: Mitt Romney Demanded Favorable Crowd, Introduction Do-Over At Forum

    Univision anchor Maria Elena Salinas told Buzzfeed that while both candidates had agreed to distribute their share of tickets mainly to students, Romney’s campaign reneged at the last minute, demanding to bus in activists to fill the seats.

    Salinas also said Romney forced Univision to re-shoot his introduction by refusing to come onstage until they relented.

    This is the "grownup" she wants to lead our nation?

    This part makes no sense at all.

    But what did win? Sex. Drugs. Bad language. Bad manners. Vulgarity. Lies. Cheating. Name-calling. Finger-pointing. Blaming. And irresponsible spending.
    These assertions are backed up with nothing but even if they were, sex is a problem? Why? It leads to babies which can be regulated by conservatives.


    In the last election, recreational use of marijuana was legalized by Washington state. This is a triumph of Libertarianism and states' rights. Why would she have a problem with this?

    Bad language?

    She is against the fairness doctrine as a broach on the First Amendment but wants "bad language" removed from the public square.

    Okay, but maybe she should talk to her people about bad language, manners and lying.

    Kiss my ass. This is a holy site for the Polish people."

    Rick Gorka, a spokesman for Republican presidential contender Mitt Romney
    Sununu described Obama’s debate performance as “babbling,” “lazy,” and “disengaged,” and dismissed the possibility that he could do better in the future. “When you’re not that bright you can’t get better prepared.”
    Lie of the Year: the Romney campaign's ad on Jeeps made in China

    The choice of our lifetime: Mitt Romney, It Takes A Pillage or President Barack Obama, Forward Together.

    by FiredUpInCA on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 02:50:14 PM PST

  •  Wow she is utterly brainwashed (0+ / 0-)

    Like someone held her eyes open clockwork orange style and just ran Fox News over and over again.

    "Holding on to anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die," - Buddha.

    by sujigu on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 02:57:40 PM PST

  •  You know what (0+ / 0-)

    Let's just rebut all this BS....

    "Holding on to anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die," - Buddha.

    by sujigu on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 02:58:58 PM PST

    •  Unfortunately... (1+ / 0-)
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      Unfortunately, what is in operation here is a lie machine whose function is to spew falsehoods faster than they can be refuted. Hollis is just a tool.

      Yes, falsehood needs to be confronted. But one can't just rebut a system of calculated falsification.

  •  there must be a template circulating for these (1+ / 0-)
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    RW rants. they all hit the same points, contain the same delusions, and same identification and demonization of the Enemy. which is Us.

    I got an email very similar from someone a couple weeks ago. turned out to be from the actual source indicated. here's the link:

    the irony of this coming from a Rabbi--demonizing an entire class of people based on distortions and outright lies--is not lost on me. It is apparently on him tho. so far he has refused to post 3 of my replies in the comments wherein I urged him to face some simple facts...

    anyhow...this is both good and bad. good in that it gives us a look into the mindset. these furious 'screeds' are basically summaries of how they view the world, what they truly think surrounds them. they believe this shit. one must, for a second, try to imagine what it must be like to live in such a world.

    and that brings me to the bad.
    there is no way to change that view. that view has been carefully cultivated and set in stone for the past 30 years or more, and those that have accepted it as their "Truth" will not be open to any information that contradicts it.

    so what we have is 47% (ironic isn't it!) of the country who are besides themselves with rage and fear based on a false reality. the falseness of that reality is immaterial. the fierceness of their rage and the billions of dollars being spent to guide that rage against us (everyone not one of them) is what we should be focusing on, rather how do we protect ourselves from it? if we even can...

    I don't think counting on the 'new demographics' i.e. the cavalier 'the angry white guys are dying off' attitude is going to cut it. the schadenfreude was fun to induldge in for a couple days after we kicked some ass, but it ain't gonna protect us down the road.

    they aren't going away. they aren't going to give up. what they will resort to next is anyone's guess...

    Happy New Year!

    no man is completely worthless, he can always be used as a bad example.

    by srfRantz on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 03:03:53 PM PST

    •  "Iranian-born" Valerie Jarrett (0+ / 0-)

      I wonder what the Rabbi would say if people started questioning the loyalty of Jews based on their ethnicity.

      The very fact that a person has become an emigre suggests they are not entirely happy with the present management.

    •  GOP has sent out prepared scripts for decades, (0+ / 0-)

      and paid a lot on money to get the wording just right.

      Something that doesn't make good sense, makes bad sense. That means someone is being deliberately hurtful & selfish. Look for motives behind actions & words.

      by CA wildwoman on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 04:50:46 AM PST

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  •  No Mandate? (0+ / 0-)

    Romney got his aristocratic rear end kicked in the Electoral College 332 to 206.  He lost the popular voted by nearly 4 MILLION votes....47 to 51%.

    That's a mandate, people.

    This woman never really discussed the Hispanic & Asian vote.....other than some vague, unfounded, lame bit about "people who want stuff from the government".

    Poor thing.  She's delusional.

    President Obama is "spoiled"?  Would that be the kind of spoiled when you've only seen your dad twice in your life, had a childhood when your mom needed food stamps, died while he was young & didn't rely on a legacy to get into Harvard?  

  •  We must never accept their surrender. (0+ / 0-)

    Not even an unconditional surrender.  They'll just bide their time and remount their assault on America --- again, and again, and again --- until they win.  They'll fight on forever, until they win.

    And so must we.

    There are no "real" Republicans in America any more; just trogladytes and Neanderthal-esque thugs hiding behind Tea-Party banners, made-in-China flags, and wooden crosses.  They have mutated into a disease; a bipedal rendition of some whacked-out cognitive/intellectual influenza that can only be wiped out by "wiping it out."

    Completely.  Maliciously, remorselessly, and intentionally.

    Wiped.  Out.  For.  All.  Time.

    I count even the single grain of sand to be a higher life-form than the likes of Sarah Palin and her odious ilk.

    by Liberal Panzer on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 03:26:56 PM PST

    •  No (1+ / 0-)
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      Human beings are not a disease. To say so is to dehumanize. It's not a road to follow.

      The conservative movement needs to be wiped out. By organizing, by talking to our neighbors, friends, and family, and by donating to candidates who understand how disinformed and destructive the movement is.

  •  Same ol' (0+ / 0-)

    Eh, none of her rhetoric worked last November, it's not worth fretting too much about.

    Eventually they'll figure out something new to say besides variations on "Fartbama is the Wimpy Gay Socialist Muslim Anti-Christ", and then we'll need to worry.

    As long as this is their channel of frustration, it helps us more than hurts us because it lets them get more detached from reality. Then when they pop out of their holes and there's a TV camera waiting, they lose Senate seats.

    it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

    by Addison on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 03:29:22 PM PST

  •  Rebuttal finished (0+ / 0-)

    I believe you should meet them blow for blow.


    "Holding on to anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die," - Buddha.

    by sujigu on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 05:30:32 PM PST

  •  I think she's from the "I can put out more BS (0+ / 0-)

    Than you can factcheck" school, definitely.

    God be with you, Occupiers. God IS with you.

    by Hohenzollern on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 07:09:46 PM PST

  •  "Dir. at Gigot Center for Entrepreneurial Studies" (0+ / 0-)

    Hmmm... would that be a standard-issue wingnut-welfare tank for reinforcing idolatrous worship of corporatism?

    Visit for Minnesota news as it happens.

    by Phoenix Woman on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 06:01:02 PM PST

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