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One way to go on offense here would be for Nancy Pelosi to now offer herself as a candidate for Speaker of the House in the 113th Congress inviting any possible sane Republicans out there to defect.

While I don't say this will work, it would certainly help cement the notion of whose fault the dysfunctional government is.

Why the hell not, I say!  I don't see a downside.  It's a chance to mess with their minds for a change.  They've been doing it to us in a couple of state legislatures.


Should Nancy Pelosi announce for Speaker of the 113th House

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  •  Tip Jar (7+ / 0-)

    sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.

    by stivo on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 01:33:18 PM PST

  •  iirc she did that for the (2+ / 0-)
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    Alice Olson, bear83

    112th. Pretty sure that's how it works. Two are nominated but there can be only one!!!

    Lo que separa la civilizacion de la anarquia son solo siete comidas.

    by psilocynic on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 01:40:09 PM PST

    •  OK (2+ / 0-)
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      Alice Olson, radarlady

      But she should campaign for it this time and get as much publicity as possible.

      sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.

      by stivo on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 01:43:17 PM PST

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      •  How is she supposed to "campaign" for it? (0+ / 0-)

        Does she go up to the Republicans in the House and ask them to vote for her, and have them laugh in her face?  What would that possibly accomplish?

        Bin Laden is dead. GM and Chrysler are alive.

        by leevank on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 02:59:37 PM PST

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        •  Offer moderate Republicans a voice. (0+ / 0-)

          Normally the Speaker shuts out the minority party's agenda with an iron fist.  Propose not to do that; allow bills on to the floor and amendments to be made that normally would not be there.

          Recognize, essentially, that there are three caucuses now, and any two of them have to work together in a coalition government, just as if we had a multiparty system: there are the Democrats, the sane Republicans, and the Crazy Caucus.  And the Crazy Caucus didn't come to do its job.  So the Democrats are the majority member of the Democrat-sane Republican governing legislative coalition, and gets most of the legislative agenda, but the minority member gets a strong say too.

          •  That small handfull of Republicans that she'd need (0+ / 0-)

            would be extremely powerful in that they could swing the House.
            And if the TeaBaggers and Cantor decide to knife Boner, which I believe they are doing right now, it might be that some of the not quite so bugfu(k crazy Republicans might find that power attractive enough (and the likely continuing dysfunction ugly enough) that they could jump ship and back Pelosi.

            If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

            by CwV on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 05:24:52 PM PST

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  •  I'd say that Pelosi as a shadow Speaker (3+ / 0-)
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    Kurt from CMH, radarlady, Sylv

    for the 113th is almost as good.   Pelosi should be prepared for some late January discharge petitions to start as Wall Street and Defense Contractors(among others) start screaming at the House Republicans for killing the fiscal cliff deal.

    It seems that any deal in the 113th would need to have every Democrat vote for it, because the GOP has proven itself incapable of passing anything substantial with a majority of their caucus.

    Washington and Colorado said that you've got to legalize it. Hope the DOJ respects that.

    by pistolSO on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 01:40:51 PM PST

    •  I say f*ck off (0+ / 0-)

      to Wall Street and the defense contractors.  I can't think of two more deserving groups to get screwed by the very politicians that are supposedly in their back pockets.

      For at least another hundred years we must pretend to ourselves and to everyone that fair is foul and foul is fair; for foul is useful and fair is not. Avarice and usury and precaution must be our gods for a little longer still. --John Maynard Keynes

      by Kurt from CMH on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 01:50:10 PM PST

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  •  We'd be more likely to win (0+ / 0-)

    with a semi-sane Republican like Walter 'Freedom Fries' Jones.

    Filibuster reform now. No more Gentleman's agreements.

    by bear83 on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 01:56:58 PM PST

  •  nice concept, wrong person (0+ / 0-)

    I think Dems would have to go with someone the right hasn't absolutely demonized yet to get any Republicans on board. I nominate Peter DeFazio.

  •  Absolutely not! (1+ / 0-)
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    Now that Nancy Pelosi has said that using the chain-weighted CPI for Social Security would not be a cut, I not only do not want her ever to be Speaker of the House again, I don’t even want her to be reelected.

    If the entitlements are going to be cut, I want the Republicans to do it.  Or, to put it differently, if I am to fall in battle, I would rather it be at the hands of the enemy, than be bayonetted in the back by my own commanding officer.

  •  She WILL be a candidate for speaker (2+ / 0-)
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    leevank, Sylv

    and she will lose.

    The way the process works is that each part meets to choose their leader.  When the house convenes in full people (almost always) vote for the leader chosen by their party.

    So if you're looking for a headline out of these developments it might be that Cantor will step up to run within the GOP caucus.  It seems like he would have a good chance of winning.  And the rest of the party would vote for him (over Pelosi) when the official vote is taken by the full house.

    "Unrestricted immigration is a dangerous thing -- look at what happened to the Iroquois." Garrison Keillor

    by Spider Stumbled on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 02:11:21 PM PST

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