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Texas Senate candidate Ted Cruz speaking at the Values Voters Summit
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) at a conservative forum last August.
Ginning up the paranoia:
“Gun registries have been used as a preface to confiscation,” Cruz said, arguing that the federal government should never be allowed to keep track of legally-owned firearms and their owners. “It’s a tragedy, but it’s not a tragedy that should be answered by restricting the constitutional rights of all Americans,” Cruz said.
Obamer's cummin to git yer guns! Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition! Cruz will define the GOP position on gun legislation. Watch.

Cruz is running for president in 2016. From the hard, hard, right. Remember you heard it here first. While Chris Christie may believe that the Republican Party is a party interested in winning national elections, he's mistaken. This just isn't Christie's party and if he doesn't know it now Ted Cruz is going to inform him.

Marco Rubio is weak. While he may have been the flavor of the month when the GOP was looking for their token Latino, he's weak herbal tea compared to the fundamentalist
evangelical brew of triple shot espresso nutcase that is Ted Cruz of Texas. As for the other possibles, including Paul Ryan and Jeb Bush, these folks aren't talking to the base in terms they feel in their trigger fingers. Ted Cruz does and even makes them feel not all that racist about it.

Remember, you heard it here first.

Originally posted to Triple-B in the Building on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:00 PM PST.

Also republished by Repeal or Amend the Second Amendment (RASA) and Shut Down the NRA.

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  •  We must never know who has the guns! (12+ / 0-)

    Because being completely unaware of who has weapons is exactly what the "Well Regulated" part of a well regulated militia means.

    Oh right, the first part doesn't exist, ever since the NRA repealed it.  (Or at least they act like they did.)

    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:03:53 PM PST

    •  Never! That is one of the sacred tenets NRAvange- (9+ / 0-)

      lists are always repeating.  Registration will always lead to confiscation for lawful owners, just like with cars, right?

      The teabaggers and the NRAvangelists are converging. A marriage made in heaven

      Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

      by DefendOurConstitution on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:10:05 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  We need to market registration better as an idea (7+ / 0-)

      Call it "gun return guarantee" so if your gun is lost or stolen the government can know who to return it to when it's found. Let's see the NRA fight against that idea. (Yeah, I'm sure they would, but it'd be funny as hell to watch them try)

      What's wrong with America? I'll tell you. Everything Romney said was pre-chewed wads of cud from Republicans from the last 30 years and yet he managed thru a combination of racism and selling the (false) hope of riches to get 47% of the national vote.

      by ontheleftcoast on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:15:07 PM PST

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      •  Can I try their immediate logic train? (2+ / 0-)

        They'll claim 4th amendment violation of reasonable search and seizure.

        If you're forced to register your gun, that's EXACTLY like someone coming into your house to spy on you.  

        /snark

        I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

        by detroitmechworks on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:17:41 PM PST

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        •  Just wait until they decide the 'correct' solution (3+ / 0-)

          is that requiring everyone to own a gun will eliminate the need to register anyone because we'll all be gun owners. Problem solved.

          Hmm, maybe I shouldn't give them any ideas...

          What's wrong with America? I'll tell you. Everything Romney said was pre-chewed wads of cud from Republicans from the last 30 years and yet he managed thru a combination of racism and selling the (false) hope of riches to get 47% of the national vote.

          by ontheleftcoast on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:20:07 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  Mandatory purchases? (2+ / 0-)

            from a gun manufacturer...

            that idea is... oh....oh....OOOOOOOH!!!!!.....

            (That sound you heard was the collective orgasm of Smith and Wesson, Remington, Sturm Ruger and Co., and Winchester.)

            /snark

            I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

            by detroitmechworks on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:23:07 PM PST

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          •  And the year after that, require a handgun for (1+ / 0-)
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            every hand and a rifle under every bed, two if on a double-bed or larger. Require all secretaries, doormen, tellers, and anyone near a front door to carry a gun so they can be the first line of defense.  And after that require guns under every car seat as part of licensing.  Maybe require showing your legal gun to get gasoline, or your alcoholic beverages, or to gain entry to the public schools, courthouses or voting booth or churches would follow that.

            Then, as a public service, allocate federal funding (as part of cutting Social Security) for 'real social security' and put up sturdy glass case boxes on every street corner, in every theater and establishment open to the public (and members-only clubs) for those threatening moments when some armed liberal might trespass or cross the line. in a manner someone may deem threatening to their faith  You know, it'd be sort of like those fire alarms and hoses and axes in cases, with that sign saying 'in case of emergency, break glass' and then anyone can grab that loaded handgun and stand their all-American ground.

            Hard to top, but possible. After that, everyone may have to get their own fully armed mini-Predator drones to protect their homes and autos.  And there's potential tax savings in this kind of policy.  Pretty soon we won't have to pay one Red Cent for public police protection, or perhaps not be able to afford to pay any sane person enough for taking the increasing risks of being a police officer.  Get with the program folks.  Carry your own guns (or mount them on your wheel chairs or walkers), bullet-proof backpacks and briefcases, fire extinguishers and EMT kits, and inflatable life-rafts (bullet proof), (and emergency food and drink and oxygen tanks), if you're hoping to be deemed a Real American Citizen--one who is Fully Personally Responsible 365x24x7.  Now that's Real Vigilant Freedom at it's finest folks and who doesn't want to go there? A few Commies? Liberals? Bleeding heart pacifists? We'll just see how long they last.

            When life gives you wingnuts, make wingnut butter!

            by antirove on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:48:12 PM PST

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            •  The NRA really puts the "extreme" in (0+ / 0-)

              "logical extreme", don't they? Yeah, that'd be pretty close to their long term plan.

              What's wrong with America? I'll tell you. Everything Romney said was pre-chewed wads of cud from Republicans from the last 30 years and yet he managed thru a combination of racism and selling the (false) hope of riches to get 47% of the national vote.

              by ontheleftcoast on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:51:29 PM PST

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            •  Prison cells can be dangerous! (0+ / 0-)

              Where in the constitution do you liberals see that an incarcerated felon's second amendment right to defend himself can be infringed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111
              (/hoplohead)

  •  He (2+ / 0-)
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    openly called it a good idea to force a partial federal shutdown to cut the flow of red ink
    Wonder how a shutdown will go over?

    Be the change you want to see in the world. -Gandhi

    by DRo on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:12:13 PM PST

  •  Well, like we say, "Stupidity is the Republican's (4+ / 0-)

    Cruz to bear"

    What's wrong with America? I'll tell you. Everything Romney said was pre-chewed wads of cud from Republicans from the last 30 years and yet he managed thru a combination of racism and selling the (false) hope of riches to get 47% of the national vote.

    by ontheleftcoast on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:13:07 PM PST

  •  Remember that time the government (7+ / 0-)

    confiscated my car because I registered it?

    Oh ... right.

  •  Cruz is the Louis Gohmert of the Senate (2+ / 0-)
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    DefendOurConstitution, kovie

    By all accounts he is a tea bagger fool.

    A new birth of freedom..

    by docterry on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:16:18 PM PST

    •  I thought Rand Paul had a lock on that (1+ / 0-)
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      Perhaps Cruz can be Aquabuddha?

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:29:33 PM PST

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    •  Ted is wrong, but not dumb (3+ / 0-)
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      annecros, fuzzyguy, poco

      We're talking about a former college debater of the year at Princeton (and trust me, he was that good) who went on to Harvard Law, and clerked for the Chief Justice of the United States.

      •  Ah, yes, even worse: (1+ / 0-)
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        a genuinely inteligent tea-bagger.  What is the internal intellectual dissonance required to carry on that way?  I simply don't understand it.

        We Texans have been saying, and I personally have said: "Hide and watch.  We will ALL have to bear SIX YEARS of Ted "Crazy Troll" Cruz in the U.S. Senate".

        Y'all ain't seen NOTHIN' yet!  Cornyn's got nothin' on Ted.

        I'm part of the "bedwetting bunch of website Democrat base people (DKos)." - Rush Limbaugh, 10/16/2012 Torture is Wrong! We live near W so you don't have to. Send love.

        by tom 47 on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 01:04:52 PM PST

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      •  Memorization idiot savant, perhaps. (0+ / 0-)

        I recently heard a news snip of Cruz interview. Asked one question, and his comment was a list of standard teabonics, irrelevant to the question. IIRC, the question was firearm-law related, and Cruz's response consisted mostly of, "dangnubbt gubmint spending!"

        No original  thought.

        However,
        If firearms weren't now such an issue that the interviewer asked a firearms question, then Cruz would have incorporated some "second amendment remedies", "when tyranny is outlawed, only outlaws will tea-rant" etc into his tea stream.
        and, I base this preliminary impression on that single Cruz news snip.

  •  History support Cruz's claim (4+ / 0-)
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    Cedwyn, annecros, fuzzyguy, Hangpilot

    The nut has found a blind squirrel, or something like that.

    Live with it.

    Readers who are unaware of the issue may research "SKS" and "California" for proof that the Republican is, for once, right, at least for people who can handle the verb form "have been used as a preface" as opposed to "are being used as a preface".

    We can have change for the better.

    by phillies on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:19:08 PM PST

  •  What a perfect character to defend the religion (3+ / 0-)
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    DRo, antirove, FG

    that was created by the NRA and that insists that its 27-Word Gospel trumps any right, constitutional or otherwise, that anyone can have.  

    So you are tired of children dying at a rate of "One Newton" every 2.5 days? Well, the Second Amendment rights are much more important than any child's life!  And so go the fundamentalists pushing the sacred scriptures that they worship.

    Now on the topic of confiscation there was a great diary written a few days ago by kavip going over the facts that it would take diligent federal regulators over 80 years to confiscate all those guns. (kavip also covers the "Hitler regulated guns in Germany and look what happened!" sacred text as well as anyone else can discuss such a ridiculous notion.)

    For a fine compendium of their sacred texts that protect the sacred Gospel (and nothing stands out more than the fear of getting their idols taken away) a great explanation of these other sacred texts was actually diaried Tuesday by AlecMN in the diary called Top Ten Reasons We Do Not Need Gun Control.  

    Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

    by DefendOurConstitution on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:20:06 PM PST

  •  Wow BBB (1+ / 0-)
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    DefendOurConstitution

    Guess you never watched Red Dawn! Commie! :)

  •  Y'know, Triple B (1+ / 0-)
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    DefendOurConstitution

    I hadn't thought about it, but I think you're right - this guy is going to run for president in four years. I don't know if he'll get the nomination, but I think he's definitely going to start showing up in Iowa and New Hampshire soon.

    Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað

    by milkbone on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:23:48 PM PST

  •  I suggested long ago (1+ / 0-)
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    DefendOurConstitution

    that upstanding gun owners who are not part of the government in any way , take up that duty .
    If they don't want the gov to know , if that is their objection , then what objection do they have for their fellow gun owners taking care of it ?

    "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

    by indycam on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:24:20 PM PST

  •  A simple question for Senator Cruz (1+ / 0-)
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    DefendOurConstitution

    When has registration led to confiscation in this nation with this Constitution?

    Never? Do I hear never?

    If it's such an absolute truism as the good Senator seems to believe, then why are there no examples?

    Oh -- I know what will come next: Nazi Germany.

    Well, Nazi Germany doesn't count (if they even had registration).

    One does nothing but relinquish all credibility if one has to point to the most extreme aberration of a dictatorship run by a psychopath that has ever existed in order to support one's argument.

    That would be analogous, I suppose, to arguing that we should have no laws limiting any behavior whatsoever, because if the K-T Boundary* tells us anything, it is that, no matter what, we'll just be made extinct by an asteroid impact. So why bother?

    .
    .
    .

    *K-T Boundary -- the geologic boundary between Cretaceous-aged and Tertiary-aged rocks that is enriched globally in the element iridium (concentrated in meteors), that coincides with the relatively rapid die-off of dinosaurs, and that has been been suggested to represent the lingering evidence of a dramatic asteroid impact on Earth.

    •  Yes. (1+ / 0-)
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      fuzzyguy

      SKS's in California. Allegedly examples in Chicago and NYC but I don't trust the sources I'm reading about those.

      No pro-choice people in this thread have Godwined themselves.

      That's this country.

      They're also scared by the examples of other democracies, which granted don't have our voters or our constitution. Examples they quote, and yes, I know right-wingers make shit up, are New Zealand 1974, Australia 1996, and other examples.

  •  He's right (6+ / 0-)

    It's the same thing with the DMV. When I registered my car upon moving back to NY last summer, it was immediately confiscated. In exchange, I was issued a complimentary voucher good for a ride in a government black helicopter.

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:28:02 PM PST

  •  Obama should come out in favour of uncontrolled... (3+ / 0-)
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    DefendOurConstitution, poco, Yo Bubba

    gun ownership without limits.

    That way liberals would have another reason to freak out and the Tea Party would automatically swing to the "register, limit, control" side in opposition.

    Tax and Spend I can understand. I can even understand Borrow and Spend. But Borrow and give Billionaires tax cuts? That I have a problem with.

    by LiberalCanuck on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:30:14 PM PST

    •  Sadly, I think... (1+ / 0-)
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      DefendOurConstitution

      That if such an event happened, It would be immediately hailed as "The first instance of bipartisanship by this president."  

      /snark

      I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

      by detroitmechworks on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:33:12 PM PST

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    •  Imagine if Obama said "I want every liberal and (2+ / 0-)
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      milkbone, Yo Bubba

      people of minority ethnic origin to purchase, carry and fufill their American duty to bear arms by 2014." And here's your tax credit for it. Also require that every immigrant applying for citizenship be armed and 'packing' at the time of taking the oath of citizenship. It's hard not to image the GOP racing to get ahead on enabling this sort of utopia.

      When life gives you wingnuts, make wingnut butter!

      by antirove on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 01:04:14 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  'register, limit, control' (0+ / 0-)

      tea: "People kill people. We must register those liberal nazis. Also those degenerate artists, nazi dissidents, nazi environmentalists, feminazis, nazi abortion nazi clinics, nazi islamic extremists, nazi  liberal east coast jewish bankers, nazi gay agenda  nazi  etc nazi nazi. Later we will confiscate these degenerates to special camps. Work will set them free."

  •  Yup! Everytime to register my car (3+ / 0-)
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    they confiscate it.

    When I registered to get married they confiscated my wife!

    Everytime I buy a software product and I click "register" they confiscate my computer right through those darn intertubes!

    I keep wondering if I register for the draft if they'll come and insulate my house....

    ba-dump-bump

    "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

    by Andrew C White on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:51:49 PM PST

  •  BBB, thank you for diary. It is amazing the simpli (0+ / 0-)

    city that you can lay out these things and yet knock them out of the park.

    On this gun issue I thought your diary Whenever a black kid gets shot ... (4 days before Newtown) was not just simple and direct, it talked about a very serious racial/cultural issue and was downright prescient (but it's easy to be that these days since mass murders are becoming so commonplace).

    Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

    by DefendOurConstitution on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:51:49 PM PST

  •  Proponents of Registration (2+ / 0-)
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    need to make the strong case of how registration will help significantly reduce deaths and injuries from guns - a case that makes sense to people who believe in citizens being allowed to own guns.  

    Without a strong case, what is the reply to the statement, "that the purpose of registration is to prepare for confiscation."

    By not making this strong case, proponents of registration just play into the hands of opponents.

    The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

    by nextstep on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:54:55 PM PST

    •  naaa... that's too black and white (1+ / 0-)
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      nextstep

      the one does not necessarily result in the other.

      The answer to the initial question is that registration leads to being able to track weapons sold illegally. Registration will make sense once the gun show/private sale loophole is closed.

      But... I do think it is a perfectly reasonable question to ask "how registration will help significantly reduce deaths and injuries from guns."

      My gut tells me that it is perfectly reasonable to require such registration and to require insurance for ownership given that we require the same for automobiles. The precedent is there and it seems logical... but without further studying the issue I can't honestly say... "and therefore it will cut down on gun violence." I don't know that to be a fact. I suspect it to be true but I don't know it and can't draw the logical straight line. I can however draw a logical straight line between requiring registration and a decrease in easily obtainable and (what would then be) illegally sold guns in America. That logically follows and it would seem to follow that this would lead to a decrease in gun violence... but I'd like to see expert studies showing that to be the case and not just my own gut instinct on the matter.

      "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

      by Andrew C White on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 01:07:42 PM PST

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      •  Some states such as Hawaii have gun registration (1+ / 0-)
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        as well as other countries, such as Australia and Canada.

        Perhaps studies on how these registrations helped solve crimes could be produced, to establish how effective gun registration is in reducing violent crime and solving crimes

        The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

        by nextstep on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 01:54:24 PM PST

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    •  gun wielding criminals will grab our guns!!1 (0+ / 0-)

      (the slogan needs more alarmism.)

  •  Teh stoopid of gun-ownership. (0+ / 0-)

    We have all these gun-rights freaks out there.  They're worried to hell and back again that the Scary Black Muslim Kenyan Socialist is going t come after their guns --- so they all line up and join the NRA.

    By joining the NRA, they're effectively putting their names and addresses on a membership list that's in the hands of a certifiably-insane powermonger.  They go to gun-shows and visit online blogs.  They get themselves photographed with their BFFs, they brag about what guns they have and how many they have, and they post their silly ramblings online --- so the crazy insane powermonger can find out what they own, how much they own.  They buy from places that are just chock-full of security apparati --- microphones, cameras, A/V recording equipment, armed guards --- so now the certifiably-insane powermonger has all the data needed to "dossier" everyone.  Facial features.  Race/gender/age.  Vehicle descriptions and license-plate numbers

    Putting all this information in the hands of a certifiably-insane powermonger:  How'd that work out for Germany in the 1930s?

    I count even the single grain of sand to be a higher life-form than the likes of Sarah Palin and her odious ilk.

    by Liberal Panzer on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 12:56:17 PM PST

  •  So if I really wanted to confiscate guns ... (0+ / 0-)

    I would just get the NRA membership list, assume they all had X number of guns, and confiscate them that way.

    Who needs a registration list?

  •  I make my own Vitamin D, too (0+ / 0-)

    - How many people who look like me are pulled over for expired registration?

     - How many blacks and Latinos are pulled over for expired registration?

     - How often would I be stopped on the street or would my home be searched for unregistered guns?

     - How often would blacks or Latinos be stopped on the street or would their homes be searched for unregistered guns?

  •  Jesus, never thought I'd agree w/ Ted F*ing Cruz (1+ / 0-)
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    But yes, registration does make one's guns susceptible to confiscation. However, with probable cause and a little bit of search warrant work the Feds can assemble a pretty good list of your guns already -- except that undocumented private transfers are still legal. That muddies the waters very much, which is what gun proponents had in mind with respect to that law. And that is every current gun owner's out. Nope, don't have that anymore. Sold it a long time ago, don't remember who bought it...

    I myself have always liked that private transfer law because I had no intention of behaving in a criminal fashion with my guns, but it's time to be done with it. Time for all transfers to be mediated by licensed dealers with full background checks, waiting period, etc. And it must be tied to a requirement that gun owners report gun theft to the police within some reasonable time.

    That will begin making each gun owner explicitly and ultimately responsible for her/his firearms, which is entirely as it should be.

    YES WE DID -- AGAIN. FOUR MORE YEARS.

    by raincrow on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 07:28:53 PM PST

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