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Florida Gov. Rick Scott is so opposed to the Affordable Care Act, he's refusing to help his state and his citizens by refusing to accept federal assistance in expanding Medicaid. To justify that decision, he's using made up numbers on the cost of the expansion to the state: numbers he knows are incorrect. That's according to emails obtained by Health News Florida.

Scott persists in justifying his decision to refuse the Medicaid expansion by saying that would cost the state $63 billion over 10 years, and that the state would have to pay $26 billion of that.

But those numbers are based on a flawed report, according to a legislative budget analyst and State Economist Amy Baker.  A series of e-mails obtained by Health News Florida shows the analysts warned Scott’s office the numbers were wrong weeks ago, but he is still using them. He cited them in aTampa Bay Times op-ed on Sunday and at at a Washington press conference on Monday (see YouTube video).

The flawed report, “Estimates Related to the Affordable Care Act,” was sent to members of the Legislative Budget Commission on Dec. 17. Three days later, two of the recipients pointed out the faulty assumptions and sent it back to AHCA for a do-over.  They said it would violate Florida law to proceed with the estimate.

That report was issued by the state's Agency for Health Care Administration (AHCA). Those faulty assumptions referenced above were that the federal government wouldn't provide the funds for the expansion included the Affordable Care Act. The report used baseline, pre-ACA federal Medicaid funding levels. Why the report's authors made that assumption isn't clear either in the report or the emails obtained by Health News Florida, but Scott’s new coordinator for health policy and budget, Michael Amway, says that the governor's office will still submit these numbers as an "alternative forecast" for the next budget estimating conference, in addition to the corrected report the AHCA has been forced to make.

Amway, a former PhRMA lobbyist and congressional staffer, says that even if Obamacare has increased funding for Medicaid expansion in the states, he doesn't believe that funding will come through, because the "federal government has a $16 trillion national debt, must borrow 46 cents of every dollar it spends, and in 2011 had its credit rating downgraded for the first time in history." Maybe Amway has some inside knowledge about what the Republican House intends to do to starve Medicaid and Obamacare, but he's still lying, and so is his boss.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 12:30 PM PST.

Also republished by DKos Florida and Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (26+ / 0-)

    "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

    by Joan McCarter on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 12:30:22 PM PST

  •  Gov. Scott lies? Quelle surprise. (5+ / 0-)


    What's wrong with America? I'll tell you. Everything Romney said was pre-chewed wads of cud from Republicans from the last 30 years and yet he managed thru a combination of racism and selling the (false) hope of riches to get 47% of the national vote.

    by ontheleftcoast on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 12:33:37 PM PST

  •  There should be a law (3+ / 0-)
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    FloridaSNMOM, Gorette, hnichols

    that says that governors and state legislators shall receive no more in health care benefits than whatever is given to that state's Medicaid recipients.

  •  He's right, but not for the reason he's saying (5+ / 0-)

    After Governor Scott gets done committing massive felony Medicare fraud (again!), the program will cost the state of Florida $26B a year.

    And, strangely, Gov. Scott will have unexplained income of $26B.

    Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

    by blue aardvark on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 12:39:12 PM PST

  •  Scott is good at getting people to cook the books. (4+ / 0-)

    What he isn't good at is how to react when he's caught at it. This is just another example. He did something similar with the high speed rail IIRC. And he's supposed to be such a good business man, at least that's what he ran on, his success in business. And yet, he doesn't want to use real numbers in his accounting, instead skewing things so they appear as he wishes they were.
    This is what happens when you put 'business people' in charge of government instead of people with an interest in serving the people.

    "Madness! Total and complete madness! This never would've happened if the humans hadn't started fighting one another!" Londo Mollari

    by FloridaSNMOM on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 12:51:37 PM PST

  •  So let's sue Scott for violating FL law! (2+ / 0-)
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    The flawed report, “Estimates Related to the Affordable Care Act,” was sent to members of the Legislative Budget Commission on Dec. 17. Three days later, two of the recipients pointed out the faulty assumptions and sent it back to AHCA for a do-over.  They said it would violate Florida law to proceed with the estimate.

    ~ my emphasis

    He's done it and plans to continue to do it. He's impeachable for this violation?

    URGHHHHHHHH. This man makes me ill. Sigh. I live in Florida. I'd impeach him for that if I could.

    "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

    by Gorette on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 01:19:12 PM PST

  •  Our governor in Oklahoma (1+ / 0-)
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    refused the Medicaid expansion also. She was more vague about it by just saying "it would cost too much" without really trying to back it up. Of course what she left unsaid was that she refused the money because she wants to be sure she gets reelected. So what if a few hundred men, women and children die for lack of medical care? It's all worth it as long as she can continue her giant ego trip and further her career.

    Glad she's got her priorities straight.

    Oh, and she refuses to release any email records related to how she made the decision to refuse the assistance. i guess she's real proud of her efforts in that area, huh?

  •  Hate to say it to all the Fine Kossacks in FL & OK (0+ / 0-)

    But you are in what are essentially Confederate states.  In FL, a large percentage of you are retired expatriates from New England who moved there for the warm weather, and until you convince the Confederates around you to vote otherwise, all your complaining is just urinating into the wind.  As for OK, Oklahoma is the reddest state in the nation so what do you expect?  Your only hope is that changing demographics save you from your neighbors, who obviously despise you and will crucify you if given half a reason to do so.  I could bring AZ into this, but I'll leave what I think about AZ up to your imaginations.  A significant proportion of the population of quite a few states are simply evil.

  •  Your title could have stopped after the (0+ / 0-)

    third word. Skeletor is an abomination and his election was another indictment of Florida's voting population.

  •  I share their skepticism (0+ / 0-)

    The GOP does not have the votes to repeal the ACA, and they know it.

    But they may have enough votes, and enough cojones, to block the funding for implementing it, for subsidizing premiums for those (most of us) who will be forced to pay way more than 8% or whatever of our income for insurance, and for the Medicaid expansion.

    I wish it were otherwise, but I am afraid.

  •  Rick Scott lying? It would only be newsworhty if (0+ / 0-)

    any truth came out of his mouth!

    There is no hell on earth appropriate enough for those who would promote the killing of another person, in the name of a god.

    by HarryParatestis on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 06:38:47 PM PST

  •  That photo has an uncanny resemblance to Batboy (2+ / 0-)
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  •  The Same Guy? (5+ / 0-)

    A Poet is at the same time a force for Solidarity and for Solitude -- Pablo Neruda / Netroots Radio podcasts of The After Show with Wink & Justice can be found on Stitcher

    by justiceputnam on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 06:42:44 PM PST

  •  the bastard should be in jail (1+ / 0-)
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    instead of in the gov mansion.

    His company committed the largest Medicare fraud in US history.

  •  You make it sound like Rick Scott has (2+ / 0-)
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    a history of lying.

    Form follows function -- Louis Sullivan

    by Spud1 on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 06:51:30 PM PST

  •  Like all repugs Rick Scott is a .... (0+ / 0-)

    America, We blow stuff up!!

    by IndyinDelaware on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 06:52:30 PM PST

  •  The governor of Florida (0+ / 0-)

    is said to be a liar, a thief, a criminal scammer and a total nutcase.  I have never met a Floridian who admits to having voted for him(I live in Tampa).  There were strong allegations that the vote was fixed and that, like the rest of the miserable life of this miserable man, that it was a fraud.  It was common knowledge that Scott had left his corporation with a sizable golden parachute and that the corp had paid the highest fines ever for Medicaid/Medicate fraud.  Why no one went to jail for that only the State Attorney can say.  Then he became governor.  Astonishing!  It has been downhill ever since.  His polling numbers have tanked.  He is the most disliked politician/governor since I moved to Florida in 1978.  We have had some great ones over the years (Democrats, of course), Bob Graham who later became our great, progressive Senator & Lawton Chiles who was loved by the people of Florida.

    Some say Scott is a strange Lizard Alien bizarro being.  Watch his head movements and his eyes.  It is a strange type of body language.  He does not move and behave like a human being, like a leader. I know this sounds ridiculous. but he is ridiculous. It is alleged that he lies all the time.  He does many things as governor that the people of Florida resent and do not at all want.  He plunges ahead in a weird way, disregarding the obvious and true objections to his decisions.  He thinks he is still a CEO.

    Florida has no means to recall him.  We are stuck with him through 2014.  Sad to say.

  •  At least he'll be thrown out soon. (0+ / 0-)

    The people of Florida are not so stupid as to elect this dumbs again (they can be stupid, but not THAT stupid). Whether he's booted in the primary, defeated in the general by Crist (a cakewalk) or Sink (more of a fight), he won't be around in 2015.

    Barbara Buono for NJ Governor 2013, Terry McAuliffe for VA Governor 2013

    by interstate73 on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 07:04:51 PM PST

  •  This is impounding funds (0+ / 0-)

    Nixon did it in 73 and it was ruled to be unconstitutional. Can't imagine Mr. Medicare Fraud's constitutional license is greater than the president's.

    Have you heard? The vice president's gone mad. - Bob Dylan, 1966

    by textus on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 07:05:37 PM PST

  •  Won't be the first time (0+ / 0-)

    This criminal has lied about medicare numbers...

    How do you think this fuckhead got rich in the first place?

    Are there no prisons? No workhouses?

    by meatballs on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 07:16:02 PM PST

  •  Looking at his picture (0+ / 0-)

    for some reason I'm reminded of Judge Doom in Who Framed Roger Rabit.  

    "You have to accept whatever comes and the only important thing is that you meet it with courage and with the best you have to give." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

    by marylrgn on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 07:38:58 PM PST

  •  Amway? (0+ / 0-)

    You expected the coordinator for health policy to give it to you straight? Maybe after you got three or four of your friends to join his venture.

  •  Skeletor! Bow down before Skeletor! (0+ / 0-)

    For if there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life. - Albert Camus

    by Anne Elk on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 09:23:21 PM PST

  •  "credit rating downgraded for the first time in... (0+ / 0-)


    Yes, because of nutters like your boss, asshole.

    It seems curiosity has killed the cat that had my tongue.

    by Murphoney on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 09:30:11 PM PST

  •  Not to be mean, but... (0+ / 0-)

    When did Florida elect Fire Marshall Bill?

  •  Lying is just good business, for the GOP. (0+ / 0-)

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