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Much talk concerning the debt ceiling has revolved around the Republican wrecklessness and intransigence concerning the debt ceiling.  Using the global economy as a hostage and threatening a Lehman type economic disaster is a damnable negotiating tactic to be sure.

However, the President has the power to end this.  He wanted to power to unilaterally raise the debt ceiling, but he already has this power.  The 'platinum coin' option is a 100% legal way for him to avoid this.  There is no reason we should even get close to the debt ceiling, unless President Obama wants us to.  Does he think it is good to get concessions from republicans(or, as I fear, from democrats)?

Either way, he has full power to avoid any economic damage and uncertainty that will come from approaching the debt ceiling.  If he does not, then a good deal of the responsibility and blame for the economic damage that is unleashed on the working families of this country rests on his shoulders.

It is time to make sure he knows this.

Poll

Does Obama bear some blame for the economic damage that comes from not ensuring that he will raise the debt ceiling using the platinum option if necessary?

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57%23 votes

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  •  why not? (24+ / 0-)

    he's to blame for everything else...........at least here.

    please.

    mittens=edsel. no matter how much money is spent to promote it, if the product sucks, no one will buy it.

    by wewantthetruth on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 03:35:57 AM PST

  •  All my recipies are copyrighted. (11+ / 1-)

    But if you have any to share this would be the place.

    This better be good. Because it is not going away.

    by DerAmi on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 03:37:57 AM PST

    •  Here's one of my favorites: (11+ / 0-)

      Cauliflower/Panko

      8 servings    2/3c = 1 serving

      6 cups cauliflower florets
      2 tablespoons water
      3 tablespoons olive oil, divided
      1/2 cup panko
      1 garlic clove, minced
      1 tablespoon chopped fresh parsley (dried works also)
      1/2 teaspoon salt
      1/4 teaspoon black pepper

      Combine cauliflower and water in a microwave-safe bowl.  Microwave on high for 6 minutes or until crisp tender.  Drain.

      Heat 1-1/2 tablespoons oil in a large nonstick skillet over medium-high heat.  Add panko to pan; cook 3 minutes or until toasted, stirring constantly.  Remove panko from pan.

      Heat remaining 1-1/2 tablespoon oil and garlic in pan over medium-high heat.  Add cauliflower; saute for 5 minutes or until golden, stirring occasionally.  Add panko, parsley, salt and pepper; toss to combine.

    •  short pastry (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Cedwyn, Pinto Pony, S F Hippie

      200g flour
      200g unsalted butter
      largish pinch of salt

      let butter come to room temp
      sift flour over butter
      pinch together butter and salt until you get pea sized bits
      add water as needed until you get a nice firm dough - not unlike a good stiff cookie dough
      briskly knead using the turn and fold with the heel of your hand method
      wrap in cling wrap and refrigerate 20 minutes

      to roll out:

      lightly flour your work surface and rolling pin
      use the pin, not your weight to flatten the dough
      turn the dough as you roll it out to keep shape and even thickness
      if it cracks at the edges when rolling gently shape with your hands before turning and rolling again
      keep rolling and turning until it's about as thick as 2 quarters stacked
      you can roll it onto the pin itself to transfer it into your baking pan

      place in the centre of your baking pan (quiche pan, pie tin, whatever it is) and then gently fold to the edges and over the top edge completely.  leave that extra bit on the outside.  
      use a wad of dough to press into the edges to avoid holes and stretching, you want it to remain at that nice thickness all around

      bake for 10 minutes at 200C ~ 390F

      fill with deliciousness and bake again until deliciousness is done

      to get a nice finish, trim the excess off the edge after it's finished with a sharp knife

      eat deliciousness in pastry

      And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

      by Mortifyd on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 06:22:32 AM PST

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    •  Shit sandwich. (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      HappyinNM

      That's what's being served.

      The Class, Terror and Climate Wars are indivisible and the short-term outcome will affect the planet for centuries. -WiA "When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill..." - PhilJD

      by Words In Action on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 07:02:25 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  I liked the other 279 Charleseses better. n/t (15+ / 0-)

    You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

    by Rich in PA on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 03:44:06 AM PST

  •  Damn... (8+ / 0-)

    I know I have a recipe for boiled water around here somewhere!

    "We will never have the elite, smart people on our side."~Little Ricky Santorum

    by Dahankster on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 04:19:18 AM PST

  •  Homemade Wine (8+ / 0-)

     1 (.25 ounce) package active dry yeast

        4 cups sugar

      1 (12 fluid ounce) can frozen juice concentrate - any flavor except citrus, thawed

      3 1/2 quarts cold water, or as needed

        Combine the yeast, sugar and juice concentrate in a gallon jug. Fill the jug the rest of the way with cold water. Rinse out a large balloon, and fit it over the opening of the jug. Secure the balloon with a rubber band.
        Place jug in a cool dark place. Within a day you will notice the balloon starting to expand. As the sugar turns to alcohol the gasses released will fill up the balloon. When the balloon is deflated back to size the wine is ready to drink. It takes about 6 weeks total.

    Kitchen-Friendly View

        PREP 5 mins
        READY IN 11 days 5 mins

    Don’t argue with idiots because they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.—Greg King

    by Pinto Pony on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 04:49:08 AM PST

  •  It is hard to resist the temptation to use (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Cedwyn

    money and the law as instruments of control. It is hard for a politician to resist the impulse to make people do his bidding.

    There's not much of a tradition of serving justice in the United States. From the beginning, the law has been used to serve ownership of property. Human rights have always been trumped by property rights. Had to be. Otherwise, it would not have been possible to own people as if they were property.

    Money and the law provide veils behind which it is possible to hide the hypocrisy that all men are created equal and can yet be owned as slaves. The "rule of law" makes it possible to distance humans from the contradiction and relieve them of responsibility for the subordination of their own kind.

    The primacy of ownership is what the cons are trying to conserve. Dubya was honest about that when he proclaimed the "ownership society." We can own things in exchange for not being able to own ourselves. "No free lunch."

    We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

    by hannah on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 04:49:17 AM PST

  •  As you can see... (4+ / 0-)

    ...if you need piles of recipes all you need do here is put "Obama is to blame" in a diary.  The rest of the diary can be pretty much anything.

    Unforunately I can't go much further than things like making toast and popcorn which I assume you already know.

    Preparing for the Mayan doomsday prophecy by hastily trying to get in the good graces of snake-bird god Q’uq’umatz

    by dov12348 on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 05:04:26 AM PST

  •  The ONLY thing Obama has truly done wrong (8+ / 0-)

    is continue to talk to the republicans like they are actual human beings.

    "Negotiating" with those dipshits is a total and complete waste of time.

    But, Obama LOVES to negotiate.

    "Don't you want to haggle"?

    No...I don't want to haggle. I won the election. I don't have to suck up to the losers.

    That's what I SHOULD have been hearing since...oh.... early 2009.

    The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

    by xxdr zombiexx on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 05:08:22 AM PST

    •  Especially because (0+ / 0-)

      he's so freaking bad at it, like all DLCers. Unless your perspective is that they are bargaining for exactly what THEY want, which is always a result that is center-right and advances the Class, Terror and Climate War, for the plutocrats...

      The Class, Terror and Climate Wars are indivisible and the short-term outcome will affect the planet for centuries. -WiA "When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill..." - PhilJD

      by Words In Action on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 06:51:37 AM PST

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  •  See? This is exactly why it is not useful (9+ / 0-)

    for the left to be pushing this nonsense idea of the magic coin. It can be used to let Republicans off the hook.

    Nope. Congress racked up these bills, it's their responsibility to pay them as they are coming due.

  •  We applaud your effort (7+ / 0-)

    and for waiting  for Thursday to post.

    Thanks for your entry,

    The WDC Judges

    Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands?

    by jsfox on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 05:30:13 AM PST

  •  Not much talk has revolved around (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    kurious

    ceiling fans, which revolve about as well as anything, IMO.  

    They do collect dust.  Maybe have a stepladder handy and some rags.  Turn them off first, of course.  Unless you are an astonishingly fast duster.

    There's something, I don't know, oddly Kiplingian about ceiling fans.  Something vaguely tropical, and Sri-Lanka-esque.  India perhaps, but Sri Lanka stays with me.  I hope Rudyard doesn't mind me hop-scotching around southeast Asia.  

    And a slight and casual hint of lime from the kitchen...

  •  In a rough translation, I got (5+ / 0-)

    'Obama and two bears' as being responsible for the debt ceiling crisis.

    I think all that budget stuff has to originate in the House of Representatives, although unleashing two bears in the lower chamber might enliven a dreary evening on C-Span.  

    Can we get bears that only eat Republicans?  I'm not sure how that works.  Maybe Jack Hannah can be brought in as a consultant.  "It's for the good of the country, Jack.  You're called to serve."  

    That Southern Republican who blurted out "You lie!" at the President during the State of the Union address...  If a bear went after him on the House floor and gobbled him up like a Hostess Ding Dong, well, I wouldn't be all that broken up about it.  

  •  Last time I looked (4+ / 0-)

    the government was still sending out the checks.

    Did we crash through the debt ceiling while I was asleep?

    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    Who is twigg?

    by twigg on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 05:55:53 AM PST

    •  Yes, and (0+ / 0-)

      the Class rages, the War on Terror and abatement of Civil Rights continue, and the planet boils. Your point? Why solve today what can be put off until tomorrow? Why miss out on the opportunity for really good brinksmanship kabuki when the opportunity remains to concede more to the plutocrats?

      The Class, Terror and Climate Wars are indivisible and the short-term outcome will affect the planet for centuries. -WiA "When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill..." - PhilJD

      by Words In Action on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 06:59:35 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Well the Debt Ceiling (0+ / 0-)

        as I understand it, is not the Presidents to solve.

        That lies entirely with Congress.

        The President is co-equal, so he would be concerned were the full faith and credit to be jeopardised, but we are not there yet.

        If we get there he has a number of ways he could respond, but he really can not pre-empt the Congress because the House would impeach him.

        You threw in a whole raft of other stuff, but my remarks were directed at the issue at hand.

        I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
        but I fear we will remain Democrats.

        Who is twigg?

        by twigg on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 07:08:56 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  The "raft of other stuff" (0+ / 0-)

          are the real issues of our time. This is not. This is trivia.

          Others above our pay grade have said the President can and should, nay, must, do so if Congress fails to do so.

          Meanwhile, that raft is circling the drain.

          The Class, Terror and Climate Wars are indivisible and the short-term outcome will affect the planet for centuries. -WiA "When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill..." - PhilJD

          by Words In Action on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 08:20:41 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  Couple of things (0+ / 0-)

            If you are a citizen, resident or taxpayer, then NOTHING is above your paygrade :)

            I agree, the other stuff matters a great deal, but they are subjects for another Diary which I would be pleased to read and comment on.

            I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
            but I fear we will remain Democrats.

            Who is twigg?

            by twigg on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 08:49:13 AM PST

            [ Parent ]

  •  Yummy (5+ / 0-)

    kudos guaranteed...

     Santa Fe Pasta 

    ·    1 16-ounce package Rotini pasta
    ·    4-5 quarts water

    Dressing:
    ·    1 ¼  cups V-8 juice
    ·    1 ½  tbsp olive oil
    ·    1 tbsp red wine vinegar
    ·    1 ½ tsp chili powder
    ·    ¾ tsp paprika
    ·    ½ tsp salt
    ·    ¼ tsp black pepper
    ·    ½ cup grated Parmesan cheese
    ·    ½ cup cooked yellow corn kernels
    ·    1/3 cup chopped cilantro
    ·    ¼ cup chopped green onion
    ·    2 tbsp diced red bell pepper
    ·    2 tbsp diced green bell pepper
    ·    1 chicken breast fillet, cooked and diced

    1.    Prepare the pasta by bringing 4-5 quarts of water to a rolling boil in a large saucepan. Add pasta to the pan, and when water begins to boil again, cook for 8-11 minutes. Pasta should be al dente, or mostly tender but with a slight toughness in the middle.
    2.    Whisk all of the dressing ingredients together in a small bowl. Cover and chill the dressing until you're ready to use it.
    3.    When pasta is done, pour it into a large bowl. Add the dressing, then toss.

    "Fascism is attracting the dregs of humanity- people with a slovenly biography - sadists, mental freaks, traitors." - ILYA EHRENBURG

    by durrati on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 06:03:57 AM PST

  •  "recklessness" not "wrecklessness" n/t (0+ / 0-)

    "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

    by rubyr on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 06:11:38 AM PST

    •  Maybe the Coin prevents Wrecks? n/t (0+ / 0-)
      •  It would, (0+ / 0-)

        as a matter of fact.

        The Class, Terror and Climate Wars are indivisible and the short-term outcome will affect the planet for centuries. -WiA "When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill..." - PhilJD

        by Words In Action on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 06:53:04 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  The final decision on that is above my pay grade.. (0+ / 0-)

          ...I can see the pros, one being:  Go around the obstructive republicans and fix the never-ending budget ceiling crisis once and for all.  And that could be a very good thing, at least in the short term.

          OTOH, there are possible cons:  Possible (probable?) Constitutional challenges, going to a Right-Wing majority SCOTUS being one of the cons.  The fact that there could be long term consequences that haven't been fully considered at this point: There could be a republican POTUS in the future that could use the same type of tactics to go around a Democratic Congress--as in trying to limit the Pentagon budget, etc.

          I don't know the answers, but hopefully the White House is considering all options, and their possible consequences, and will pick the solution that is best for the country in both the short and long-term.

  •  Bears Blame Obama for Debt Ceiling Damage? (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Remediator, kerflooey, Pinto Pony

    Is that the Chicago Bears, the Russian Bear, or Bears in the wild?  Why do they care so much?  Don't they have their own problems--which, IIRC, could be solved by coins, lots and lots of coins...

  •  Obama and the Democrats bear the blame (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Words In Action

    for refusing to call out the Republicans on the failure of their 30+ year experiment in Supply Side economics. Once that's discredited, the Republicans really don't have a leg to stand on. Instead they let Boehner and the Republicans make claims about tax rates and job creation that have no basis in reality, but go on unchallenged.

    I'm no philosopher, I am no poet, I'm just trying to help you out - Gomez (from the song Hamoa Beach)

    by jhecht on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 06:49:10 AM PST

  •  God forbid a Democrat take the upper-hand and (0+ / 0-)

    solve a problem within their means to solve before Republicans parlay it into a full-blown, global-panic crises, and move on to truly pressing business beyond the unnecessary, destructive kabuki that only a "serious"person could love.

    The Class, Terror and Climate Wars are indivisible and the short-term outcome will affect the planet for centuries. -WiA "When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill..." - PhilJD

    by Words In Action on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 06:57:31 AM PST

  •  Obviously a weak, undeveloped diary, (0+ / 0-)

    but the point is well taken. It sure would be nice to see this put to rest to give oxygen to other matters.

    The Class, Terror and Climate Wars are indivisible and the short-term outcome will affect the planet for centuries. -WiA "When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill..." - PhilJD

    by Words In Action on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 07:01:56 AM PST

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