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"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."

-- Wendell Phillips, (1811-1884), abolitionist, orator and columnist for The Liberator,  in a speech before the Massachusetts Antislavery Society in 1852, according to The Dictionary of Quotations edited by Bergen Evans

There IS a difference between being constantly vigilant ... and constantly paranoid.


If you don't know the difference, well please don't shoot me. Or anyone else for that matter, with whom you just might have a differing opinion or two. We do have a 1st Amendment too, afterall.

Guns yes, can make a person intimidating. But guns don't necessarily make a person Right.  It's the logic of your ideas and facts, that does that -- not the piercing strength of your bullets in your many magazines.


There's solid line between vigilance and paranoia

by Claudia Smith Brinson, deseretnews.com -- Oct 28, 2001

[...]
As the joke goes, "I'm not paranoid; I know they're out to get me."

So, in the interest of physical and mental health, what's the difference between being vigilant and being paranoid? Is it vigilant to buy a gas mask? Or wacky?

Vigilance is rational; facts are attached. A fear is rational if it concerns something that is harmful and actually could happen, says Shane Thye, a sociologist at the University of South Carolina.

Paranoia is irrational. Paranoia is a fixed belief in something that is patently untrue, not real, not a threat, says Stephen McLeod-Bryant, a psychiatrist and medical director for the South Carolina Department of Mental Health. You insist on this fixed idea despite evidence to the contrary.

Here's the evidence to the contrary on gas masks: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says there's no point in buying one. First, to work, a gas mask has to fit you. Second, to work, the gas mask has to be worn all the time. By the time you found out an attack was under way, it would be too late. Third, if it's breathing anthrax spores that's worrying you, look at the delivery system. [...]


Facts, they're stubborn things ... kind of hard to pin down sometimes ...


Facts, they're stubborn things, kind of hard to pin down sometimes -- kind of like the echo-chamber talking points, concocted in Rightwing Media and by the corporately funded lobbying groups ... those dark-money interests, who are only looking out for you -- and your wallet!


Fine line between vigilance and paranoia

by Susan Delacourt, Toronto Star -- Dec 15, 2012

A few weeks after the dust had settled from the U.S. presidential election, a pollster went out and asked Americans about the forces shaping politics in their country.

A full 49 per cent of Republicans believed the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) had helped President Barack Obama “steal” his election victory.


... and some Facts are not so stubborn ...
-- despite the pesky fact that ACORN folded in 2010.  How ... wait ... huh?

There is fine line between vigilance and paranoia -- one is based on facts in evidence; and one is based on wild rumors and speculation.


If you don't know the difference, well please quit treading on -- those of us who do.  

Just remember, there is a reason WHY the 1st Amendment -- is first.

So that logic and reason, would prevail over brawn and constant fear.  One day.  In the land of free ... and the home of the brave ... debates.



Originally posted to Digging up those Facts ... for over 8 years. on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 12:04 PM PST.

Also republished by Shut Down the NRA.

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  •  If you liked that ... (3+ / 0-)
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    HoundDog, Glen The Plumber, ExStr8

    then you might want to check out this ...


    we patrol the borders, don't we?
    by jamess -- Jan 10, 2013


    Here's how the game is really Rigged.

    by jamess on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 12:05:55 PM PST

  •  Great post jamess. Hey, wait a minute? How do we (3+ / 0-)
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    jamess, Phil S 33, ExStr8

    know you are the real Jamess? And not some Java-bot pretending to to be jamess?

    What better strategy would there be for an imposter-bot to gain credibility but to warn folks about "excess paranoia?  Or lack of sufficient vigilance.

    Or, for that matter, how can I be sure I'm not a java-bot pretending to be me?  I forgot to be eternally vigilant several time in recent months.  Who knows what could have happened.  Dang, I hate it when this happens.

    The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

    by HoundDog on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 12:16:40 PM PST

    •  LOL (3+ / 0-)
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      well, my dang-bot gots this nervous tick

      -- it has this compulsive impulse to try to reply nicely,
      to almost each and every comment ...


      wooo ...  wait a minute!


      Here's how the game is really Rigged.

      by jamess on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 12:20:53 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  I've been having a lot of suspicious behavior (2+ / 0-)
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        lately myself.

        Like compulsive urges to write post about large solar energy, galaxies and cosmic structures.  Just as I finished the one yesterday on galaxies I found some reports on the largest cosmic structure every discovered.  

        I've totally written up with pics and everything, but am concerned if I post another so soon, people might suspect I'm either possessed by or working for inter-galactic beings.

        Especially, not that you've got everyone hopped up about lack of optimal  levels of vigilance - not to much, not too little, but just the right amount. The Goldilocks Solution..  

         

        The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

        by HoundDog on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 12:30:06 PM PST

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        •  that's bot-picious activity, for sure (1+ / 0-)
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          what are you trying to promote, anyways

          a one harmonious universe plot!?




          ----------

          Vigilance IS a valid instinct,

          but it should be based on a valid threat.


          One that is clear and present and dangerous,

          and factually demonstrable.


          Otherwise it's just so-much wasted psychic energy,
          that promotes neither peace, nor opportunity.  

          Nor our common humanity. IMO.


          Here's how the game is really Rigged.

          by jamess on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 12:37:27 PM PST

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          •  This is exactly what I want to know. (0+ / 0-)
            that's bot-picious activity, for sure (0+ / 0-)
            what are you trying to promote, anyways

            a one harmonious universe plot!?

            From my investigations, so far, what I can gather from the emerging evidence in my last several posts is that I'm unconsciously trying to spread the idea that stellar energy and forces are good and beautiful things we should by happy about.

            Exactly the kinds of messages intergalactic beings might want to spread in advance of some invasion.  

            The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

            by HoundDog on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 12:43:29 PM PST

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          •  Here's the intro to a post that is emerging in my (2+ / 0-)
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            jamess, Catte Nappe

            que, that seems to be writing itself while I watch TV.  

            Photobucket

            After writing a post yesterday on amazing photos of galaxies, a reader send me a link to this story on the largest cosmic structure every discovered. I've been trying really hard all morning to find something other than enormous cosmic structures to write about, lest I get typecast. But, alas, I slept in late, and all the good non-cosmic stories seem to already be posted. So please forgive me for telling you about the Biggest Structure in the Universe Explained, by Karl Tate, that seems to defy the Cosmological Principle, proposed by Albert Einstein, that postulates structures this large should not be possible.  

            Astronomers have discovered a huge formation of 73 quasars representing the largest structure yet observed in the universe.

            The quasar group is very distant, and therefore existed when the universe was much younger than it is now. A quasar is a very energetic black-hole-powered galactic nucleus. Quasars first appeared in the very early universe, soon after the Big Bang. The light from a quasar is so intense that it can be visible from across the universe.  ...

            The currently accepted Cosmological Principle, based on the work of Albert Einstein, suggests that the largest structures we should be able to find would be about 370 megaparsecs across (more than 1.2 billion light-years). The newly found quasar group is 1,200 megaparsecs across, a distance that would take four billion years to cross at the speed of light.

            The largest structures that we know that are close to Earth are super clusters of galaxies surrounding vast voids in space. The Sloan Great Wall is the largest such structure and is at the top end of the size limit set by the Cosmological Principle.

            So, Jamess, doesn't this seem pretty suspicious to you too?  I suppose since there only seem to be a dozen or so folks reading right now, it might be the best time to get it out of my system, but capacity for rational posting decisions may be compromised.

            The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

            by HoundDog on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 12:53:26 PM PST

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            •  lol, that's hard to imagine HD (1+ / 0-)
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              your posts are always rational and fact-based,

              even when they're being awe-inspiring and whimical.


              you might find this intriguing, (my meager attempts at the same)

              What's the Frequency, Cosmos?
              by jamess -- Dec 24, 2012


              then again, if you have all these Dials and precise Dial-settings, does that automatically imply a Dial-setter?

              some chain of questions, eventually hit that brick wall,
              at the edge of the universe,
              otherwise known as the human condition.


              Here's how the game is really Rigged.

              by jamess on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 01:04:06 PM PST

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              •  Very cool post. (1+ / 0-)
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                Great music embeds.  

                The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

                by HoundDog on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 01:19:53 PM PST

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              •  Now you causing me to remember that Close (1+ / 0-)
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                jamess

                Encounters of a Third Kind movie, where certain "extra-sensitive" souls received astral plane messages to prepare for the arrive of the aliens.

                Is it coincidence that you just posted this question of Cosmic Frequency just last month?

                I think not!  

                This pretty much nearly proves my suspicions.

                And, wouldn't one of the implications of this theory that our universe being of "lower entropy" than suspected suggest that seemingly random events may have hidden order "behind" them? If not behind, then maybe under, over, or near by? It could be all relative to the the state of consciousness the observer was looking from.

                I'd better go check the recent post lists. If eXtina, poopdog, teacherken, or some else posts about this colossal cosmic structure while we've been talking it will be all the proof we need.  

                I can't believe what a slow news day it is.  I really have looked all over to find something to write about other than this.

                I thought I found a could with with the Homeland Security warning people to turn of the Java extensions to our browsers, but then discovered there was a top rec post up all day yesterday on it already.

                People should be jumping up and down about demanding that the GOP not be allowed to get away with substituting social spending cuts for defense spending, but all the articles about that are sort of limp, and I don't have the energy or motivation to write a real scathing one now that the aliens seems to have tuned into to such a large part of my subconscious creative zones.

                At least I'm not so desperate yet that I start a live blog of the AFC NFL playoffs.  But, lets see how I hold up.

                Two nights ago David Letterman made some jokes about some naked subway event in the NYC transit system. Maybe I'll see if that's been posted.  Oh, and I think a Panda in a zoo in China had gas to the delight of visitors and local TV stations. That could be a top rec'cer if I could get this up quick and tap into  the daily pootie and woozle readers while they still have some pep left in them.

                The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

                by HoundDog on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 01:38:02 PM PST

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  •  when lines aren't that bright (1+ / 0-)
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    “Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you”
    ― Joseph Heller, Catch-22

    Warning - some snark above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ “If someone has a tool and is trying to negate your existence it would be reasonable to reciprocate in kind with your own tool.” - Dalai Lama XIV (sic)

    by annieli on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 01:24:41 PM PST

    •  well (1+ / 0-)
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      annieli


      ... doesn't mean they ARE, either.


      Here's how the game is really Rigged.

      by jamess on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 01:35:06 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  doobie-doobie do, do, do, do dee-dah (1+ / 0-)
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        stranglers in the knight...

        A catch-22 is a paradoxical situation in which an individual cannot or is incapable of avoiding a problem because of contradictory constraints or rules. Often these situations are such that solving one part of a problem only creates another problem, which ultimately leads back to the original problem. Catch-22s often result from rules, regulations, or procedures that an individual is subject to but has no control over.

        Warning - some snark above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ “If someone has a tool and is trying to negate your existence it would be reasonable to reciprocate in kind with your own tool.” - Dalai Lama XIV (sic)

        by annieli on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 01:39:29 PM PST

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        •  have you ever noticed (1+ / 0-)
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          annieli

          how most CT theories are built around,

          things that are patently unprovable,

          in any clear and straight-forward way?


          and somehow there's always a mysterious "THEY"

          -- the Plotters -- behind it all


          Here's how the game is really Rigged.

          by jamess on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 01:43:40 PM PST

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          •  like (1+ / 0-)
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            annieli

            the government -- or some hidden cabal in the government --

            "wants to take ALL your guns away."


            Here's how the game is really Rigged.

            by jamess on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 01:45:54 PM PST

            [ Parent ]

            •  or like (1+ / 0-)
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              jamess

              every member of the Racine Kenosha Realtors Association is a fetishist and therefore must be (quelle horreur) a member of the National Recovery Administration, and therefore cannot by the same definition be a member of the Democratic party and therefore must be discriminated against because only better Democrats are not fetishists

              Warning - some snark above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ “If someone has a tool and is trying to negate your existence it would be reasonable to reciprocate in kind with your own tool.” - Dalai Lama XIV (sic)

              by annieli on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 01:59:30 PM PST

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  •  That paranoia may make gun control efforts (0+ / 0-)

    backfire.  The sale of guns has exploded over the last month, mainly due to that paranoia.   Millions of new guns are out in society now that were not there before Sandy Hook - an immediate effect of gun control efforts.

    And those gun control efforts, if successful, will just be middle of the road things, like universal checks, etc.  There's no chance that handguns will be banned (assault rifles maybe) and no chance that anyone will have a gun they own confiscated (including no confiscation of existing assault rifles, which are basically sold out already across the country).   Odds are that any new controls that pass will spark even more furious purchasing of guns.

    In my mind there's a real question as to whether the results of gun control efforts will have been worth a zillion new guns floating around.

    •  I think the background checks (0+ / 0-)

      if made substantial and comprehensive,

      have a best chance of preventing future Sandy Hooks.


      and background checks are not likely to trigger a rush of arms buying,
      from those who are already "legal" and responsible.


      there is no "silver bullet" to this problem.

      much as there is no easy answer for unauthorized border crossings, either.

      yet we still watch our borders, as if it helps stem the tide there.

      Don't our innocent school children deserve a similar effort ...


      Here's how the game is really Rigged.

      by jamess on Sun Jan 13, 2013 at 12:28:45 AM PST

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