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The Obama administration is conducting a robust defense of itself and what some see as its pro-Assad stance in the face of a growing body of evidence that Bashar al-Assad has started to use chemical weapons in the 22 month old conflict that has taken more than 60,000 Syrian lives without them.

In August, Obama said that the movement or use of "a whole bunch" of chemical weapons would be a red-line that would cause him to do something. I said at the time that he was giving Assad a green light to additional slaughter by every other means. That was 40,000 Syrian lives ago,

Then in December came intelligence reports that Assad had moved some chemical weapons and loaded them into bombs. Obama reissued his red-line warning but dropped the prohibition against moving them.

23 December, came reports from activists and medical people of a chemical attack in Homs. Five people died and many more were treated. Video evidence was taken and distributed.

A few day later a defector from Assad's military police confirmed the use of chemical weapons in Homs.

Then yesterday, Foreign Policy broke a story about a secret state department cable that reported that a US consulate investigation had concluded that Assad had indeed used chemical weapons.

If this is true, if it turns out that Assad has used chemical weapons, and the White House knew this via the state department investigation, and still did nothing after having given Assad a green light for everything but. Well, that could be very embarrassing for the President.

But if there was no chemical attack, no problem! Except for the ~200 a day being slaughtered by non-chemical means, of course, but Obama never drew a red-line against that, so there's no problem on the integrity front.

So naturally, the White House is finding fault with the reports that Assad has used chemical weapons.

I think that the safest reading of all the available evidence is that Assad has used chemical weapons and is preparing to use more of them. That is the context in which the present discussion must be viewed.

His father killed 20,000 in one swipe - and caught hell for it. Bashar al-Assad has learned well the fable of the boiling frogs. He has just killed a little each day and so far the world has let him get away with killing three times as many as his father.

His approach to using chemical weapons can be expected to follow the same course and Obama's "a whole bunch" reservation has given him the cue.

All the best evidence is that in Homs, he used just one chemical shell and killed five people. One shell certainly isn't a whole bunch. Are 2? Are 3?

There are already indications that he has used chemical weapons in other places and I believe he will continue to racket up the use of chemical weapons. He is being forced to, as he depletes his other methods of killing. But he will do it at a slow pace in the hopes the world will not notice or mind.

And so far it is working, even when I first reported on this chemical attack in Homs, some Kossacks accused me of crying wolf, so what do you think they will say the next time they hear that "a whole bunch" of people are being gassed to death?

This is how "NEVER AGAIN!" turns into "never mind."

Here is the CNN report on the White House version:

U.S.: Syria didn't use chemical weapons in Homs incident

January 16th, 2013 02:08 PM ET
By Elise Labott
The Syrian government did not use chemical weapons against residents of Homs in a December attack, a U.S. State Department investigation shows, but did apparently misuse a riot-control gas in the incident, according to senior U.S. officials.

The investigation stemmed from allegations inside Syria about the use of chemical weapons during an attack on the city of Homs on December 23. The officials said the State Department launched a probe from its consulate in Istanbul after doctors and activists reported dozens of victims suffering from nervous system, respiratory and gastrointestinal ailments after inhaling the gas.

Foreign Policy's "The Cable" blog reported Tuesday that a secret diplomatic cable provided a "compelling case" that President Bashar al-Assad's military used chemical weapons in the attack.

The United States was informed of the incident by representatives of a non-governmental organization working in Syria, who told the U.S. consulate in Turkey that they believed a chemical attack took place in Homs, according to a U.S. official. The NGO set up some interviews for the consulate, which then wrote a cable discussing the concerns. The U.S. official said the cable noted that the evidence was inconclusive that there was a chemical attack.

However, the concern triggered a more extensive investigation by the State Department, with intelligence personnel assessing online videos of the attack and pictures of the victims. Chemical weapons experts and doctors experienced in treating patients exposed to chemical weapons were also consulted, according to U.S. officials. And interviews were conducted with Syrian doctors and activists inside the country by a U.S. partner there.

The gas was determined to be a "riot control agent" that was not designed to produce lasting effects, but became more dangerous when it was released in dense areas and was not dispersed in the air quickly, the officials said.  More...

Still the Mail On-Line is reporting:

Syria used chemical weapons in Homs, US state department cables reveal

By Sean O'hare
14:41 EST, 16 January 2013
A secret US government communication concludes that the Syrian army more than likely used chemical weapons during an attack in the city of Homs last month.

The document, leaked to The Cable, reveals the finding of an investigation by Scott Frederic Kilner, the U.S. consul general in Istanbul, into accusations that the Syrian army used chemical weapons in the December 23 attack.

An Obama administration official who had access to the document was reported as saying: 'We can't definitely say 100 per cent, but Syrian contacts made a compelling case that Agent 15 was used in Homs on Dec. 23.' More...

The Financial Times says:
White House questions Syrian weapons claim

By Geoff Dyer in Washington
January 16, 2013 4:46 am
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The White House played down reports on Tuesday that Syria used chemical weapons on its own citizens during a December attack on rebels in the city of Homs.

A report by Foreign Policy, the magazine and website, said a secret US state department cable had concluded that the Syrian government forces likely used a form of poison gas during the December 23 attack on Homs. More...

The New Yorker has this:
The Case of Agent 15: Did Syria Use a Nerve Agent?

January 16, 2013
Posted by Raffi Khatchadourian
Just before Christmas, deeply troubling reports emerged from the city of Homs, in Syria, that government forces had used sarin gas, or a deadly nerve agent like it, in an attack on a rebel-held neighborhood, poisoning scores of people. “The situation is very difficult,” a desperate-sounding activist told Al Jazeera, which reported the incident on December 24th. “We do not have enough face masks. We don’t know what this gas is, but medics are saying it’s something similar to sarin gas.”

So was the gas used in Homs akin to sarin? No and yes, it seems. Sarin is odorless, and people in Homs reported smelling the chemical. Sarin is hyper-potent, and some people apparently inhaled a lot of this gas without dying. If these details are correct, then the compound surely differs from sarin in significant ways. And yet, there are similar chemicals out there that cause the same symptoms but are not nearly as potent and do have an odor. They are orgaonphosphate pesticides, which happen to be among the most common pesticides in the world and are also cholinesterase inhibitors. They can cause symptoms identical to their military counterparts, including death, and are treatable with atropine. If the chemical used in Homs was a commercial pesticide, then it appears that someone has manufactured a crude, poor-man’s chemical weapon out of a commonly available item.

This explanation may also help clarify the Obama Administration’s reaction to the attack. “The reporting we have seen from media sources regarding alleged chemical weapons incidents in Syria has not been consistent with what we believe to be true about the Syrian chemical weapons program,” Tommy Vietor, a White House spokesman, said yesterday. Today, a State Department spokesperson added that the secret cable’s contents had been mischaracterized by Rogin’s source, and that there was “no credible evidence to corroborate or to confirm that chemical weapons were used.”

The chemical used in Homs does not appear to have been deployed by the five-hundred-pound bombs that Israeli intelligence observed—or, at least, no one has testified to this. Even the deployment via tank shell, as described in Rogin’s story, has been called into question. Rami Jarrah, a Syrian political activist living in London, recently alleged on his Facebook page that the secret cable reflected a “hoax” in that it was poorly sourced, and that though he had gathered reports of a gas that had caused unusual symptoms, “the furthest we could demonstrate was possible usage of gases that were set off in air balloons that pop once they reach a certain altitude.” His claims are unverified, and he did not say which faction in Syria would conceive such a plan, let alone execute it. The balloon scenario seems improbable. Still, the videos of the casualties are compelling; they do not seem staged, and the notion of what constitutes a “hoax” in war can span many possibilities. If a phony nerve-agent attack with a pesticide resembling a “chemical weapon” was in fact orchestrated in Homs just before Christmas, one has to wonder: Who would stage such a thing—whether by balloon or any other method of deployment—and why? More...

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  •  Tip Jar (2+ / 0-)
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    Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

    by Clay Claiborne on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 03:56:24 PM PST

  •  Richard Engel on Maddow last night (11+ / 0-)

    Said he was skeptical at best, and that his on the ground reporting led him to believe that it was not a chemical warfare agent.

    If you didn't see the segment, it's worth watching, as it compares to some past situations and raises some seemingly valid caution flags.

    No, you can't fix stupid. You OUTNUMBER stupid. -Wildthumb, 1/10/2013

    by newinfluence on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 04:24:12 PM PST

    •  Clay doesn't care about the evidence (6+ / 0-)

      He's just here to spread false intelligence in order to get the US involved in another conflict in the Middle East. He doesn't want to talk about what happens after Assad is gone - rather he just wants war - no matter the cost. His diaries here serve that one single purpose.

      "The two pioneering forces of modern sensibility are Jewish moral seriousness and homosexual aestheticism and irony." Susan Sontag

      by Shane Hensinger on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 04:26:25 PM PST

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      •  Arguing on Dailykos (0+ / 0-)

        is like taking your time and setting it on fire.

        Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

        by Clay Claiborne on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 04:40:50 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  Then stop posting (3+ / 0-)

          This isn't an amen corner or an echo chamber for your views.

          "The two pioneering forces of modern sensibility are Jewish moral seriousness and homosexual aestheticism and irony." Susan Sontag

          by Shane Hensinger on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 05:02:44 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  I should argue whether I care about the evidence? (0+ / 0-)

            Now what could I possibly say that would convince you or pluto or angry maggot of that?

            Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

            by Clay Claiborne on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 05:53:30 PM PST

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            •  So you think statements from anti Assad activists, (2+ / 0-)
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              A defector from Syria's military police and a leaked secret cable confirming that an accusation of the use of chemical weapons does exist.

              You are basing your judgement on a confirmation of an accusation!

              I don't know which I find more unnerving about your confidence, that you credit a military defector as a reliable source or the existence of a credible accusation.

            •  You want an honest answer, Clay? (0+ / 0-)

              You would do well to recognize the limitations and biases of the sources you use to narrate events and processes in Syria. It would also help if you heeded your own advice in your tag-line to "remember history" and spend some time reading through some peer-reviewed literature on the history of Syria in order to understand at least some of the very complex dynamics involved here. Most of all it would behoove you to quit trying to jam every piece of dubious "evidence" within your over-determined and ridiculous narrative of "Obama ♥ al-Assad."

              Thanks for "angry maggot," btw... I smiled at that one :~)

              Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time. (Terry Pratchett)

              by angry marmot on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 06:25:16 AM PST

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      •  bit of a harsh assessment (0+ / 0-)

        mayhap a tad too harsh but I will concede that Clay does not offer many solutions for the problems he presents in his diaries.  OTOH I have not seen many solutions to the situation coming from other quarters either

      •  Your statement is as unhinged from reality as (1+ / 0-)
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        something from Redstate.

        But this is a partisan site after all, and I'm glad to now see its limits.

  •  "More, later"... (2+ / 0-)
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    Oh, good. I hope it's another game of "Where's Waldo Bashar?"

    Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time. (Terry Pratchett)

    by angry marmot on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 04:28:33 PM PST

  •  What does using hashtags in the title do? (0+ / 0-)

    Lo que separa la civilizacion de la anarquia son solo siete comidas.

    by psilocynic on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 04:37:20 PM PST

  •  Btw, what do you think about this: (0+ / 0-)

    Now they want 300k ransom for her. I know it's not directly related to chemical weapons.

  •  I used to do an AfPak series. Followed Syria since (3+ / 0-)
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    well, for awhile now.  But ESPECIALLY so since those protests in Daraa first started back in March 2011.   I find a troubling trend; you seem to be posting here as a platform for marketing, and you seem very harsh of the U.S. for the sake of being harsh of the U.S..   I say that because of comments from above like this;

    Arguing on Dailykos (0+ / 0-)

    is like taking your time and setting it on fire.

    Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

    by Clay Claiborne on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 04:40:50 PM PST

    In Vietnam, American involvement led to a "Holocaust" as you put it in your signature line.  You seem to have done some kind of series or documentary on that subject, too.   I find the idea of the U.S. conducting a "Holocaust" offensive for multiple reasons.   Yet in Syria, a lack of American involvement you claim has led to 40,000 deaths in this very diary.

    The consistency is very limited and troubling.

    "Your diary is a pack of filthy lies." -bronte17

    by Setrak on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 06:40:34 PM PST

    •  Clay bemoans US influence on one hand (4+ / 0-)

      but wants the United States to act as an imperialist power in Syria on the other hand. He fails to recognize that US meddling, whether in the form of covert or overt action, is often times where the problem begins (for us and for others) in the first place.

      "The two pioneering forces of modern sensibility are Jewish moral seriousness and homosexual aestheticism and irony." Susan Sontag

      by Shane Hensinger on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 07:03:46 PM PST

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      •  Direct US involvement in Syria would be playing (0+ / 0-)

        right into the hands of the Salafist jihadis. Don't forget that these people hate America/NATO more than they hate Assad.

        A few thousand have kept the US VERY busy for over a decade with two wars that have cost the country dearly in lives and treasure. As an unexpected bonus, these same jihadists have also managed to scare the crap out of so many Americans that they were willing to trash their freedoms and rights in exchange for 'security'.

  •  You can only fool me once, Curveball (4+ / 0-)
    Defector admits to WMD lies that triggered Iraq war

    The defector who convinced the White House that Iraq had a secret biological weapons programme has admitted for the first time that he lied about his story, then watched in shock as it was used to justify the war.

    Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, codenamed Curveball by German and American intelligence officials who dealt with his claims, has told the Guardian that he fabricated tales of mobile bioweapons trucks and clandestine factories in an attempt to bring down the Saddam Hussein regime, from which he had fled in 1995.

    "Maybe I was right, maybe I was not right," he said. "They gave me this chance. I had the chance to fabricate something to topple the regime. I and my sons are proud of that and we are proud that we were the reason to give Iraq the margin of democracy."
    With the US now leaving Iraq, Janabi said he was comfortable with what he did, despite the chaos of the past eight years and the civilian death toll in Iraq, which stands at more than 100,000.

    "I tell you something when I hear anybody – not just in Iraq but in any war – [is] killed, I am very sad. But give me another solution. Can you give me another solution?

    "Believe me, there was no other way to bring about freedom to Iraq. There were no other possibilities."

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